History YMMV / FateHollowAtaraxia

17th Jan '18 8:10:21 AM FateStayWho
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** While Rin is romantically attracted to Shirou, when her date with him at the pool is interrupted by Rider, Rin admits she and Shirou both noticed the same part of Rider's body. Rin goes on to note how beautiful Rider is and how she feels inadequate in comparison.
** While Caster avoids any of her DepravedBisexual moments from the original visual novel, she still expresses a desire to see Saber try on various outfits, this time only being played for laughs.
25th Dec '17 9:26:19 PM FateStayWho
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* AuthorTract: During the opening montage, Avenger starts ranting about how the world is dying and how much better things were in the good ol' days. Then again, this is a physical fact of the setting that [[TimeAbyss Avenger]] would obviously be aware of, and [[OlderIsBetter this ideology]] isn't particularly pushed by Nasu in this work or any other, so ...



* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, and they both seem to come out better people for it. Caren 'begins to consent' halfway through, and doesn't seem particularly upset about the encounter afterward. They even have a romantic and touching moment later on...]]

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* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, HoYay: Issei and Shinji both have points where they both seem are practically competing to come out better see who is Shirou's best friend, at time actually fighting over him.
* {{Moe}}: [[EvilSorcerer Caster]] of all
people for it. Caren 'begins manages to consent' halfway through, and doesn't seem particularly upset about the encounter afterward. They even have a romantic and touching moment later on...]] reach this status, sometimes reaching {{Tsundere}} status.
18th Dec '17 11:23:03 AM SpaceDrake
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: You might expect that now the Holy Grail War is over (and almost all the characters are inexplicably still alive) they'd take the time to explore [[spoiler:Archer's backstory, particularly what he went through to turn him from the idealistic Emiya Shirou to the cynical Archer, as well as how he's dealing with being back in ''his own'' past, seeing people he knew from his youth again]]. You might expect this. But apart from a single scene where [[ThoseTwoGuys Those Three Girls]] mention that [[spoiler:Archer]] seems strangely familiar for some reason, you'd be completely wrong and [[spoiler:Shirou and Archer]] just continue with their usual offhandedly antagonistic relationship.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: You might expect that now the Holy Grail War is over (and almost all the characters are inexplicably still alive) they'd take the time to explore [[spoiler:Archer's backstory, particularly what he went through to turn him from the idealistic Emiya Shirou to the cynical Archer, as well as how he's dealing with being back in ''his own'' past, seeing people he knew from his youth again]]. You might expect this. But apart from a single scene where [[ThoseTwoGuys Those Three Girls]] mention that [[spoiler:Archer]] seems strangely familiar for some reason, you'd be completely wrong and [[spoiler:Shirou and Archer]] just continue with their usual offhandedly antagonistic relationship.

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relationship. [[spoiler:This is because, at the time, the Archer Spoiler™ was considered one of the truly great sacred cows of the franchise and every single effort was taken to ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia''.conceal it for people who hadn't seen TheReveal in the original game. Yes, even the fandisc sequel still tries to hide it. ''VideoGame/FateExtra'' took similar steps to conceal it. Nowadays, with VideoGame/FateGrandOrder casually spoiling it, it looks especially silly.]]
16th Dec '17 7:51:37 PM FateStayWho
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* ButtMonkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!
14th Jul '17 8:04:16 AM Anythingsfine
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* AuthorTract: During the opening montage, Avenger starts ranting about how the world is dying and how much better things were in the good ol' days.

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* AuthorTract: During the opening montage, Avenger starts ranting about how the world is dying and how much better things were in the good ol' days. Then again, this is a physical fact of the setting that [[TimeAbyss Avenger]] would obviously be aware of, and [[OlderIsBetter this ideology]] isn't particularly pushed by Nasu in this work or any other, so ...
19th Jun '16 7:36:45 PM actuallycuchulainn
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* The Butt Monkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!

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* The Butt Monkey: ButtMonkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!
19th Jun '16 7:28:24 PM actuallycuchulainn
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* Butt Monkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!

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* The Butt Monkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!
19th Jun '16 7:20:18 PM actuallycuchulainn
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* Butt Monkey: It's expected with Lancer, but in the Hanafuda minigames, it's pushed to the extreme, with Lancer being pushed around and berated by Gilgamesh and Kirei, pummeled by Berserker, getting called a moron by HIMSELF, and having all his hard earned money stolen by Caren to pay for their hot springs trip. When Kotomine's team is doing poorly in a game, the blame immediately goes to Lancer, and Kirei says it's "seppuku time." When Lancer gets flattenned by Berserker, Gilgamesh say that Lancer's kind is "the lowest of the low, basic human rights need not apply to him", and admits that the only thing he needs Lancer for is holding his cards while they play- and that' not even in a route that directly involves Kotomine's team, Lancer can't escape abuse even in other people's routes!
14th Apr '16 9:21:35 PM actuallycuchulainn
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* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, and they both seem to come out better people for it...]]

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* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, and they both seem to come out better people for it...it. Caren 'begins to consent' halfway through, and doesn't seem particularly upset about the encounter afterward. They even have a romantic and touching moment later on...]]
14th Apr '16 9:13:07 PM actuallycuchulainn
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* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, and they both seem to come out better people for it...]]



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