History YMMV / FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem

16th Jan '17 1:00:26 AM Anddrix
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* NotSoDifferent: While some fans take issue with the portrayal of wizarding America, many of the worst parts of the Wizarding world in America have parallels in the British Ministry of Magic. While Aurors are apparently able to order the execution of people without a trial in America, Minister Fudge was able to sentence Barty Crouch Jr. to receive the dementor's kiss, which the books make clear is a {{fate worse than death}}. The wizarding world in general doesn't seem to have much of a concept of due process of law.
16th Jan '17 12:57:49 AM fairlyfelonious
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* NoYay: Some of the interactions between Percival Graves[[spoiler:/Gellert Grindelwald]] and Credence Barebone come off as this. Given how close he stands to Credence every time they are together, the way he is always touching his face, hair, or neck, and [[spoiler: the way Grindelwald uses apparent affection to manipulate him]], his relationship with Credence takes on pedophilic overtones despite the fact that Credence is of age, because of the age difference and power imbalance between them.

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* NoYay: Some of the interactions between Percival Graves[[spoiler:/Gellert Grindelwald]] and Credence Barebone come off as this. Given how close he stands to Credence every time they are together, the way he is always touching his face, hair, or neck, the [[UnequalPairing power imbalance]] and age difference between them, and [[spoiler: the way Grindelwald uses apparent affection to manipulate him]], his relationship with Credence takes on pedophilic overtones despite the fact that Credence is of age, because of the age difference and power imbalance between them.age.
16th Jan '17 12:48:16 AM fairlyfelonious
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* NotSoDifferent: While some fans take issue with the portrayal of wizarding America, many of the worst parts of the Wizarding world in America have parallels in the British Ministry of Magic. While Aurors are apparently able to order the execution of people without a trial in America, Minister Fudge was able to sentence Barty Crouch Jr. to receive the dementor's kiss, which the books make clear is a {{fate worse than death}}.

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* NotSoDifferent: While some fans take issue with the portrayal of wizarding America, many of the worst parts of the Wizarding world in America have parallels in the British Ministry of Magic. While Aurors are apparently able to order the execution of people without a trial in America, Minister Fudge was able to sentence Barty Crouch Jr. to receive the dementor's kiss, which the books make clear is a {{fate worse than death}}. The wizarding world in general doesn't seem to have much of a concept of due process of law.
*NoYay: Some of the interactions between Percival Graves[[spoiler:/Gellert Grindelwald]] and Credence Barebone come off as this. Given how close he stands to Credence every time they are together, the way he is always touching his face, hair, or neck, and [[spoiler: the way Grindelwald uses apparent affection to manipulate him]], his relationship with Credence takes on pedophilic overtones despite the fact that Credence is of age, because of the age difference and power imbalance between them.
16th Jan '17 12:30:09 AM fairlyfelonious
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* NotSoDifferent: While some fans take issue with the portrayal of wizarding America, many of the worst parts of the Wizarding world in America have parallels in the British Ministry of Magic. While Aurors are apparently able to order the execution of people without a trial in America, Minister Fudge was able to sentence Barty Crouch Jr. to receive the dementor's kiss, which the books make clear is a {{fate worse than death}}.
31st Dec '16 6:45:06 PM supergod
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Rowling's series of short essays on the history of magic in North America got hit with allegations of this by some fans, who argued that her interpretations of the Salem witch trials and Native American magic and lore constituted cultural appropriation and misconstrued a serious turning point in American history. Others believe this is justified by her ability to take whatever liberties she wants in her fictional worlds, as well as the fact that they were just short supplementary essays that weren't meant to go very in-depth.
31st Dec '16 6:23:03 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* SmallReferencePools:
** The notion that Ilvermorny would even have houses like Hogwarts is based on the rather unlikely assumption that an American boarding school would be organized along the same lines as a British boarding school. While this is not impossible (American private schools with British pretensions do exist) the premiere American magic school would probably be organized more like Philips Exeter than Eton. However the American fandom (most of whom have no experience of ''any'' private school, boarding or otherwise) probably would have revolted if Rowling hadn't provided them houses to belong to so they could share the fun.
** The MACUSA as Rowling envisions it doesn't follow ''any'' of the fundamental principles of American governance. It isn't even a funhouse mirror view of America in the way that established Potterverse provided an amusingly distorted reflection of Britain; it's entirely alien to American norms and expectations. You'd expect the American wizarding community to reflect American governing principles even if they did hold themselves apart, if only because that's the society that surrounds them.
** Rowling's rather ham-fisted attempts to shoehorn Native American magic into the Potterverse resulted in allegations of cultural insensitivity at best, cultural appropriation at worst.
** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.
31st Dec '16 4:37:19 PM CowboyWizardInSpace
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** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.* {{Squick}}: Mary Lou making Credence take off his own belt so she can beat him with it, hurting him with his own clothes that he wears at his midsection -- she's essentially emasculating him. Graves going the opposite way and trying to bait him with affection [[spoiler:and then rejecting him ''hard'' for being a Squib and only using him to find the Obscurial]] didn't do his psyche any favors.

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** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.capital.
* {{Squick}}: Mary Lou making Credence take off his own belt so she can beat him with it, hurting him with his own clothes that he wears at his midsection -- she's essentially emasculating him. Graves going the opposite way and trying to bait him with affection [[spoiler:and then rejecting him ''hard'' for being a Squib and only using him to find the Obscurial]] didn't do his psyche any favors.
31st Dec '16 4:36:29 PM CowboyWizardInSpace
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* {{Squick}}: Mary Lou making Credence take off his own belt so she can beat him with it, hurting him with his own clothes that he wears at his midsection -- she's essentially emasculating him. Graves going the opposite way and trying to bait him with affection [[spoiler:and then rejecting him ''hard'' for being a Squib and only using him to find the Obscurial]] didn't do his psyche any favors.

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* SmallReferencePools:
** The notion that Ilvermorny would even have houses like Hogwarts is based on the rather unlikely assumption that an American boarding school would be organized along the same lines as a British boarding school. While this is not impossible (American private schools with British pretensions do exist) the premiere American magic school would probably be organized more like Philips Exeter than Eton. However the American fandom (most of whom have no experience of ''any'' private school, boarding or otherwise) probably would have revolted if Rowling hadn't provided them houses to belong to so they could share the fun.
** The MACUSA as Rowling envisions it doesn't follow ''any'' of the fundamental principles of American governance. It isn't even a funhouse mirror view of America in the way that established Potterverse provided an amusingly distorted reflection of Britain; it's entirely alien to American norms and expectations. You'd expect the American wizarding community to reflect American governing principles even if they did hold themselves apart, if only because that's the society that surrounds them.
** Rowling's rather ham-fisted attempts to shoehorn Native American magic into the Potterverse resulted in allegations of cultural insensitivity at best, cultural appropriation at worst.
** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.
* {{Squick}}: Mary Lou making Credence take off his own belt so she can beat him with it, hurting him with his own clothes that he wears at his midsection -- she's essentially emasculating him. Graves going the opposite way and trying to bait him with affection [[spoiler:and then rejecting him ''hard'' for being a Squib and only using him to find the Obscurial]] didn't do his psyche any favors.
31st Dec '16 2:50:53 PM Anddrix
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* SmallReferencePools:
** The notion that Ilvermorny would even have houses like Hogwarts is based on the rather unlikely assumption that an American boarding school would be organized along the same lines as a British boarding school. While this is not impossible (American private schools with British pretensions do exist) the premiere American magic school would probably be organized more like Philips Exeter than Eton. However the American fandom (most of whom have no experience of ''any'' private school, boarding or otherwise) probably would have revolted if Rowling hadn't provided them houses to belong to so they could share the fun.
** The MACUSA as Rowling envisions it doesn't follow ''any'' of the fundamental principles of American governance. It isn't even a funhouse mirror view of America in the way that established Potterverse provided an amusingly distorted reflection of Britain; it's entirely alien to American norms and expectations. You'd expect the American wizarding community to reflect American governing principles even if they did hold themselves apart, if only because that's the society that surrounds them.
** Rowling's rather ham-fisted attempts to shoehorn Native American magic into the Potterverse resulted in allegations of cultural insensitivity at best, cultural appropriation at worst.
** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.
31st Dec '16 2:46:32 PM CowboyWizardInSpace
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** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capitol of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.

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** Despite the US being a ''very'' large country with a variety of cities in which to place MACUSA's capital, each of which would have given the movie a unique flavor, Rowling chose to make [[BigApplesauce New York City]] the capitol capital of Wizarding America, most likely because it is the older of the two most well-known American cities[[note]]the other being Los Angeles, which didn't become an American city until 1847 and didn't merge with Hollywood, its claim to fame, until 1910[[/note]] and therefore more likely to be made MACUSA's capital.



* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: Words in this case, as mentioned above, many fans are upset that the word "Muggle" is replaced by "No-Maj"

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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: Words in this case, as mentioned above, many fans are upset that the word "Muggle" is replaced by "No-Maj." Some take issue with the lack of the word "Muggle;" others simply believe that "No-Maj" is a weak substitute.
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