History YMMV / FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem

8th May '18 5:31:21 PM StardustSoldier
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** One of main characters being a Muggle. This means we ''finally'' get to see the world of ''Harry Potter'' universe from the viewpoint of a Muggle. Not to mention said Muggle is a nice and open-minded man, unlike the xenophobic Dursleys.
*** Furthermore, in the previous books and films the wizarding world, including the heroes, tended to treat Muggles as inferior to them and without any respect. Here Jacob not only pulls his own weight throughout the adventure, he's even able to help out by using [[MundaneSolution mundane solutions]] that the wizards don't even think of.

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** One of main characters being a Muggle. This means we ''finally'' get to see the world of ''Harry Potter'' universe from the viewpoint of a Muggle. Not to mention said Muggle is a nice and open-minded man, unlike the xenophobic Dursleys.
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Dursleys. Furthermore, in the previous books and films films, the wizarding world, including the heroes, tended to treat Muggles as inferior to them and without any respect. Here Jacob not only pulls his own weight throughout the adventure, he's even able to help out by using [[MundaneSolution mundane solutions]] that the wizards don't even think of.



*** On the same note, the reveal that French wizards in the second movie would use the word "Non-Magique" ("Non-Magical") rather than the established translation "Moldu" stirred up a lot of complaints from French fans. Some fans argue that "Moldus" was just a translation of "Muggle" anyway and that it makes more sense for French wizards to have their own word, whereas others would rather see the translation they grew up with be used, and point out that unlike the "No-Maj"/"Muggle" debate in which both terms still exist InUniverse, this would make "Non-Magique" the actual French equivalent of those terms, thus [[{{Retcon}} implying that "Moldus" was never a real word In-Universe to begin with]]. A third group is fine with "Moldu" not being used, but considers "Non-Magique" an especially unimaginative alternative, and would have preferred a term inspired by Latin or Germanic etymology.

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*** ** On the same note, the reveal that French wizards in the second movie would use the word "Non-Magique" ("Non-Magical") rather than the established translation "Moldu" stirred up a lot of complaints from French fans. Some fans argue that "Moldus" was just a translation of "Muggle" anyway and that it makes more sense for French wizards to have their own word, whereas others would rather see the translation they grew up with be used, and point out that unlike the "No-Maj"/"Muggle" debate in which both terms still exist InUniverse, this would make "Non-Magique" the actual French equivalent of those terms, thus [[{{Retcon}} implying that "Moldus" was never a real word In-Universe to begin with]]. A third group is fine with "Moldu" not being used, but considers "Non-Magique" an especially unimaginative alternative, and would have preferred a term inspired by Latin or Germanic etymology.



** Creator/JohnnyDepp's casting as [[spoiler:Gellert Grindelwald]]. Some (including, apparently J.K. Rowling herself) were happy with the choice and applauded him for being a great actor, but quite a few think he was all wrong compared to the way they imagined [[spoiler: Grindelwald]] to be from his brief mentions in the books  the image of a handsome, sharp-dressed, silver-tongued man had crystalized so much in the fans' mind that they took the somewhat pudgy, soft-speaking Depp [[spoiler: Grindelwald]], especially with his extremely strange haircut and mustache, as a betrayal. Others don't especially dislike this version of the character, but think that as an American, he's the wrong fit [[spoiler: for a continental European wizard]]. Also, a significant chunk of the fandom expressed horror not because of the performance but because of the highly publicized (but since dropped without as much of a charge pressed) allegations of domestic abuse during Depp's divorce proceedings in 2016[[note]]it should be noted that ''Fantastic Beasts'' began shooting in 2015, before said allegations were made public. Additionally, accusations of either spousal or child abuse being brought up during a divorce is so common most courts have a standard procedure for it.[[/note]]. One admin on the Harry Potter Wiki even resigned over the inclusion on that wiki of a Johnny Depp article, but has since rejoined.
*** [[spoiler: Many others felt Colin Farrell's portrayal was vastly better than Depp's {{Narm}}y scene, and have set up petitions demanding his return.]]

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** Creator/JohnnyDepp's casting as [[spoiler:Gellert Grindelwald]]. Some (including, apparently J.K. Rowling herself) were happy with the choice and applauded him for being a great actor, but quite a few think he was all wrong compared to the way they imagined [[spoiler: Grindelwald]] to be from his brief mentions in the books  the image of a handsome, sharp-dressed, silver-tongued man had crystalized so much in the fans' mind that they took the somewhat pudgy, soft-speaking Depp [[spoiler: Grindelwald]], especially with his extremely strange haircut and mustache, as a betrayal. Others don't especially dislike this version of the character, but think that as an American, he's the wrong fit [[spoiler: for a continental European wizard]]. Also, a significant chunk of the fandom expressed horror not because of the performance but because of the highly publicized (but since dropped without as much of a charge pressed) allegations of domestic abuse during Depp's divorce proceedings in 2016[[note]]it should be noted that ''Fantastic Beasts'' began shooting in 2015, before said allegations were made public. Additionally, accusations of either spousal or child abuse being brought up during a divorce is so common most courts have a standard procedure for it.[[/note]]. One admin on the Harry Potter Wiki even resigned over the inclusion on that wiki of a Johnny Depp article, but has since rejoined. \n*** [[spoiler: Many others simply felt Colin [[spoiler:Colin Farrell's portrayal was vastly better than Depp's {{Narm}}y scene, and have set up petitions demanding his return.]]



** This is [[Film/TheImaginariumOfDoctorParnassus not the first time]] that [[spoiler:Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp have played the same character.]]
*** With the [[http://variety.com/2017/film/news/jude-law-dunbledore-fantastic-beasts-sequel-1202029157/ announcement]] that Creator/JudeLaw will play young Dumbledore, everyone who took over from Creator/HeathLedger in Film/TheImaginariumOfDoctorParnassus is in this film series.

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** This is [[Film/TheImaginariumOfDoctorParnassus not the first time]] that [[spoiler:Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp have played the same character.]]
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]] With the [[http://variety.com/2017/film/news/jude-law-dunbledore-fantastic-beasts-sequel-1202029157/ announcement]] that Creator/JudeLaw will play young Dumbledore, everyone who took over from Creator/HeathLedger in Film/TheImaginariumOfDoctorParnassus is in this film series.
8th May '18 5:28:34 PM StardustSoldier
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** The Loch Ness Monster is really just a Kelpie that shapeshifts into a sea serpent when it wants to. Before the legend of Nessie became popular, a kelpie was what people originally believed lived in Loch Ness.
*** The fact that a Kelpie is having fun messing with Muggles by letting them see it, then changing into something entirely different when they come searching. It is ''literally'' the ultimate magical troll creature.
** Not to mention the only record of a Chimera being killed "led to the unlucky wizard in question falling from his winged horse".[[note]]In the original legend, after slaying it while riding the winged horse Pegasus, Bellerophon tried to fly to Mount Olympus (where the gods lived). [[JerkassGods Guess how well that turned out]] for him.[[/note]]

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** The Loch Ness Monster is really just a Kelpie that shapeshifts into a sea serpent when it wants to. Before the legend of Nessie became popular, a kelpie was what people originally believed lived in Loch Ness.
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Ness. The fact that a Kelpie is having fun messing with Muggles by letting them see it, then changing into something entirely different when they come searching. It is ''literally'' the ultimate magical troll creature.
** Not to mention the The only record of a Chimera being killed "led to the unlucky wizard in question falling from his winged horse".[[note]]In the original legend, after slaying it while riding the winged horse Pegasus, Bellerophon tried to fly to Mount Olympus (where the gods lived). [[JerkassGods Guess how well that turned out]] for him.[[/note]]
29th Apr '18 11:04:44 AM nombretomado
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** Creator/EzraMiller is currently known for playing [[Film/DCExtendedUniverse The Flash]]. In ''Fantastic Beasts'', his character [[spoiler:is the ''Harry Potter'' universe equivalent of [[ComicBook/XMen Jean Grey]]]]. Plus, he was previously [[Film/ThePerksOfBeingAWallflower Hermione's stepbrother]]. He's also been [[Film/WeNeedToTalkAboutKevin severely unstable and had issues with his mother who especially focused on him, father (figure) who only saw what he wanted, and younger sister]] who in this case is actually ''creepier'' then he, though in this case [[spoiler:his mother dies, his sister lives, and his father-figure ultimately causes ''him'' to get shot full of holes]].

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** Creator/EzraMiller is currently known for playing [[Film/DCExtendedUniverse [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse The Flash]]. In ''Fantastic Beasts'', his character [[spoiler:is the ''Harry Potter'' universe equivalent of [[ComicBook/XMen Jean Grey]]]]. Plus, he was previously [[Film/ThePerksOfBeingAWallflower Hermione's stepbrother]]. He's also been [[Film/WeNeedToTalkAboutKevin severely unstable and had issues with his mother who especially focused on him, father (figure) who only saw what he wanted, and younger sister]] who in this case is actually ''creepier'' then he, though in this case [[spoiler:his mother dies, his sister lives, and his father-figure ultimately causes ''him'' to get shot full of holes]].
19th Mar '18 2:42:14 PM StardustSoldier
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The main villain of the series? An American Grindelwald follower KnightTemplar who believes that TheMasquerade is tyranny, and who manages an epic VillainHasAPoint speech? No. [[spoiler:He was Grindelwald in disguise all along, which means we already know how the main villain will be defeated, and that it will not be Newt who beats him.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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The main villain of the series? An American Grindelwald follower KnightTemplar who believes that TheMasquerade is tyranny, and who manages an epic VillainHasAPoint speech? No. [[spoiler:He was Grindelwald in disguise all along, which means we already know how the main villain will be defeated, and that it will not be Newt who beats him.]]
19th Mar '18 11:21:10 AM ThorfinnRowle
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** The Nundu is described in the book as being possibly the most dangerous magical creature in the world. We do see one briefly, but it's little more than just another creature in Newt's case.
17th Mar '18 11:33:50 PM StardustSoldier
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* JustHereForGodzilla: A fair number of ''Harry Potter'' fans who weren't particularly interested in the premise of a Potter-free movie set in the universe were on the fence about the film got on-board at the last minute once it was confirmed that the film [[spoiler:would include a cameo from Grindelwald and would lead up to the legendary confrontation between Dumbledore and Grindelwald]].

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* JustHereForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla:
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A fair number of ''Harry Potter'' fans who weren't particularly interested in the premise of a Potter-free movie set in the universe were on the fence about the film got on-board at the last minute once it was confirmed that the film [[spoiler:would include a cameo from Grindelwald and would lead up to the legendary confrontation between Dumbledore and Grindelwald]].
13th Mar '18 12:48:18 PM StardustSoldier
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* OneSceneWonder: Creator/JohnnyDepp's cameo as [[spoiler:Grindelwald]]. The character's presence gives decisive direction for the remaining four films in the series to take.

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Creator/JohnnyDepp's cameo as [[spoiler:Grindelwald]]. The character's presence gives decisive direction for the remaining four films in the series to take.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Picquery can be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, but at times it seems almost as if she is just taking out stress on Tina. This seems especially true at the second meeting scene wherein she sees proof that what is going on ''might'' be linked to Tina's emergency yesterday... then proceeds to order Tina to be punished for not telling them sooner when ''she brushed Tina off''.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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Picquery can be a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, but at times it seems almost as if she is just taking out stress on Tina. This seems especially true at the second meeting scene wherein she sees proof that what is going on ''might'' be linked to Tina's emergency yesterday... then proceeds to order Tina to be punished for not telling them sooner when ''she brushed Tina off''.
26th Feb '18 8:18:35 PM theredsquirrel
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** Some fans truly were just there to see the monsters. There's a fabulous Thunderbird, after all.
29th Jan '18 6:22:43 AM kquinn0830
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*** Furthermore, in the previous books and films the wizarding world, including the heroes, tended to treat Muggles as inferior to them and without any respect. Here Jacob not only pulls his own weight throughout the adventure, he's even able to help out by using [[MundaneSolution mundane solutions]] that the wizards don't even think of.
25th Jan '18 4:21:28 PM Isaac_Heller
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** Also, much of what the magical creatures do through the course of the film coupled with some of the things said about them makes Newt's "They aren't dangerous!" pleas come off as BlatantLies, which reflects poorly on Newt.
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