History YMMV / FableII

%%* EvilIsSexy:
%%** Sparrow as [[LawfulEvil Fanatic.]]
%%** Reaver.
%%The above examples are zero-context examples. Do not uncomment them without expanding them.

* TearJerker: The "Perfect World" sequence is heartrending as Sparrow lives an illusion of a perfect life, with the player knowing very much that reality shall [[RealityEnsues ensue]].

** Farmer Giles has his wife murdered by Ripper, just because they found out about his gang being crossdressers.

* UnfortunateImplications: NPC's marked as "bisexual" are also almost exclusively marked with traits such as "aggressive," "raunchy," and "unchaste," which perpetuates the real-world stereotype that bisexual individuals are promiscuous and sexually deviant. "Bisexual" as a trait is also found mostly, if not entirely, in thug, lower class and prostitute NPC's (upper class NPC's are primarily straight, or occasionally gay/lesbian, but never bisexual.)

* NarmCharm: There's something just plain silly in the way Alex from the quest "Till Death Do Us Part" greets you with so much depression and then, after two or three "seduce" actions from the Hero, declares that they're madly in love with you and that they're "the luckiest man alive," to the extent of killing themself if you take the route of revealing that the romance was faked on your part.

* NarmCharm: There's something just plain silly in the way Alex from the quest "Till Death Do Us Part" greets you with so much depression and then, after two or three "seduce" actions from the Hero, declares that he is madly in love with you and that he's "the luckiest man alive."

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Fable 2 has gotten a much better reception than ''VideoGame/FableI'' and is regarded as being better than ''VideoGame/FableIII''.

* MostAnnoyingSound:
** "Oh, please, great hero. May I have your autograph?"
** "I'm a good widdle boy!"
** Any of the lines an NPC gives when they want to marry you will get annoying quickly, because it's all they say. Add to that the fact that most heroes will have everyone in love with them sooner or later and the manipulative, guilt-trippy nature of some of the lines, and you'll probably find yourself reaching for the mute button whenever you have to head into town.

* FairForItsDay: A surprisingly recent example: the game came out in 2008 and allows same sex marriage, which wasn't legalized in all 50 states until 2015

* KarmaHoudini: Reaver. He gets away with all of the awful things that he does, and nothing bad ever happens to him in return. [[spoiler: You could argue that losing his hometown of Oakvale was a sort of punishment.]]

* BrokenAesop: Anything about religion, most bluntly regarding Hammer. Hammer's whole character arc is to harp on about how the temple she was raised in is a load of superstitions and self-righteous beliefs forced on others that will get people killed. Real world applications aside, it's broken to Hell and back in-game. According to Hammer, pacifism will only lead to you getting killed and religion is a lot of superstition. The religion she is pooh-poohing is directly responsible for the fertility of an entire town's crop (per Theresa's words), so calling them superstitious is a stretch at best. Any accusations of the Temple forcing their views on anyone who isn't a member are unproven (given the guard in the village who is allowed to use force to arrest you for crimes you've committed and seem to be keeping the monsters on the map at bay perfectly well when you're not around). All around, the Temple of Light monks are among the most pleasant people you encounter. By the end of the game, Hammer's re-reconsidered and decided violence isn't the answer and is willing to be Sister Hannah again.
** There's also Barnum remarking with derision about how he's left behind the Temple Of Business and Yodeling. This would be more understandable if he didn't make his best business decision in the game (the makeover of Westcliff) while a member.

* BrokenAesop: Anything about religion, most bluntly regarding Hammer. Hammer's whole character arc is to harp on about how the temple she was raised in is a load of superstitions and self-righteous beliefs forced on others that will get people killed. Real world applications aside, it's broken to Hell and back in-game. According to Hammer, pacifism will only lead to you getting killed and religion is a lot of superstition. The religion she is pooh-poohing is directly responsible for the fertility of an entire town's crop (per Theresa's words), so calling them superstitious is a stretch at best. Any accusations of the Temple forcing their views on anyone who isn't a member are unproven (given the guard in the village who is allowed to use force to arrest you for crimes you've committed and seem to be keeping the monsters on the map at bay perfectly well when you're not around). All around, the Temple of Light monks are among the most pleasant people you encounter.

* GoodBadBugs: There's a house in Bowerstone Market called 'Monster Manor' which temporarily gives your character an extra star in Pysique if you sleep there. However, unlike in other houses with the Bodybuilder bonus, you can infinitely 'unlearn' the ability to get free experience points. You can max our your Hero's stats in under an hour using this method.

* TheScrappy: Sam and Max aren't well liked because their sidequests include them doing something stupid, and the Hero having to clean up after them. They're never all that grateful when you save them, either, and their supposed humour is hit and miss for most players. [[spoiler: They return in ''VideoGame/FableIII'' from the ''grave'' to screw things over for the Hero of Brightwall too.]]

* MostWonderfulSound:

* MagnificentBastard: ''Reaver''. He's handsome, charming, and [[spoiler: tries to trick the Hero into losing their youth the moment he meets them. He destroyed his hometown so he can achieve eternal youth, shoots a sculptor for not getting his buttocks right, kills Barnum because photographs take time to develop, and can kill Lucien before the Hero gets a chance to if you aren't quick enough.]]

* CompleteMonster: Once a young man from Oakvale, [[SmugSnake Reaver]] mistakenly destroyed his village by making a [[DealWithTheDevil pact with demons for immortality]]. Initially horrified by what he had done, Reaver's avarice led him to continue his bargain with the demons, routinely sacrificing unwitting people to them in return for maintaining his own eternal youth. A petty hedonist, Reaver also shoots multiple artists dead for not depicting him according to his wishes. In ''VideoGame/FableIII'' Reaver becomes a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive greedy industrialist]], using children for labor and forcing his workers into unsafe conditions, killing those who protest against him. When [[PlayerCharacter the Hero of Brightwall]] becomes the ruler of Albion, Reaver acts as an evil advisor to them, suggesting they destroy forests and schools to make room for facilities for his own business ventures.

* CompleteMonster: Once a young man from Oakvale, [[SmugSnake Reaver]] mistakenly destroyed his village by making a [[DealWithTheDevil pact with demons for immortality]]. Initially horrified by what he had done, Reaver's avarice led him to continue his bargain with the demons, routinely sacrificing unwitting people to them in return for maintaining his own eternal youth. A petty hedonist, Reaver also shoots multiple artists dead for not depicting him according to his wishes. In ''VideoGame/FableIII'' Reaver becomes a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive greedy industrialist]], using children for labor and forcing his workers into unsafe conditions, killing those who protest against him. When [[PlayerCharacter The Hero of Brightwall]] becomes the ruler of Albion, Reaver acts as an evil advisor to them, suggesting they destroy forests and schools to make room for facilities for his own business ventures.

* CompleteMonster: Reaver. In the [[VideoGame/FableII second game]] he manages to double cross the main character at least twice and was revealed to be the person responsible for [[spoiler: the destruction of Oakvale, though he actually regretted that action in the past (key emphasis on the past tense in that statement)]]. In the [[VideoGame/FableIII third game]] he [[CorruptCorporateExecutive controls the Bowerstone industrial sector]], which he forces children to work in factories and shoots workers who slow or grow tired, protest, or break some unannounced rule he has yet to think up. He also acts as an advisor to the king in which his suggestions will be something along the lines of deforestation and tearing down a school to make room for a whorehouse.

* {{Anvilicious}}: [[BeliefMakesYouStupid Or Helpless]]. Hammer's whole point is to drive this home, and Theresa and Garth will weigh in in her favor. Furthermore, Barnum's

* JustForFun/XMeetsY: The developers have described ''Fable II'' as "A Creator/MontyPython sketch directed by Creator/TimBurton. It's a dark fairy tale with a light-hearted English twist."

** Rose. She struggles to look after Sparrow while living on the streets and is propositioned despite being in her mid teens at the most. Then, when she thinks that they're going to get to live in Fairfax Castle, she's shot and killed in cold blood. [[spoiler: If the Banshees are telling the truth, Rose also didn't die right away from the first shot. She had to listen as her younger sibling was shot out of the window, heard their body hit the ground, and ''cried'' before Lucien finished her off with a final shot.]]

* HellIsThatNoise: The soft ''whoosh'' noise that wisps make when they enter the ground to revive skeletons into Hollowmen. Quickly followed by undead growls.

* CompleteMonster:
** Reaver. In the [[VideoGame/FableII second game]] he manages to double cross the main character at least twice and was revealed to be the person responsible for [[spoiler: the destruction of Oakvale, though he actually regretted that action in the past (key emphasis on the past tense in that statement)]]. In the [[VideoGame/FableIII third game]] he [[CorruptCorporateExecutive controls the Bowerstone industrial sector]], which he forces children to work in factories and shoots workers who slow or grow tired, protest, or break some unannounced rule he has yet to think up. He also acts as an advisor to the king in which his suggestions will be something along the lines of deforestation and tearing down a school to make room for a whorehouse.
* DracoInLeatherPants:
** ''Reaver''. Some fans like to portray him as a {{Woobie}} who cries nightly over what he's done, or that he has been abused in the past to excuse his awful behaviour. He's often in love with the Hero of Bowerstone, but sees himself as a monster. [[spoiler: Granted some of Reaver's diaries imply that he might feel guilty about what he did to Oakvale, but he also claims that he's no longer that man.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse
** Barnum is well liked for his single minded determination, his somewhat shady ideas, and his surprisingly good inventions. He's also very funny, and is unfailingly kind towards the player [[spoiler: and keeps his word when it comes to giving them gold for posing for a photograph in their childhood, and improving Westcliff if you loan him some start up gold; which he returns ''with'' interest. Unfortunately Reaver kills him when Barnum mentions it will take time for his photograph to develop, something even the more devoted Reaver fans were upset about.]]
* EvenBetterSequel:
** Many consider ''Fable II'' to be the best game in the series. It streamlined the best features of ''VideoGame/FableI'' but kept the same charm and humour. The graphics are improved, the battle system is a lot more fluid, and there is much more of Albion to explore. The addition of a dog companion was also extremely well received.
* EvilIsCool:
** Reaver is an incredibly popular character [[spoiler: which is why he was bought back for ''Fable III''.]]
* EvilIsSexy:
** Sparrow as [[LawfulEvil Fanatic.]]
** Reaver.

* GoddamnedBats:
** Hollowmen. They attack in large numbers and they are absolutely ''everywhere'' that resembles a tomb.
* GoddamnedBoss:
** Trolls. Their weak points only pop out for a short time between attacks, and each one is destroyed when hit, so the last hit is often a tricky shot. For added irritation, their attacks knock you back and stun you.
* GoodBadBugs:
** There's a house in Bowerstone Market called 'Monster Manor' which temporarily gives your character an extra star in Pysique if you sleep there. However, unlike in other houses with the Bodybuilder bonus, you can infinitely 'unlearn' the ability to get free experience points. You can max our your Hero's stats in under an hour using this method.
* HellIsThatNoise:
** The soft ''whoosh'' noise that wisps make when they enter the ground to revive skeletons into Hollowmen. Quickly followed by undead growls.
* KarmaHoudini:
** Reaver. He gets away with all of the awful things that he does, and nothing bad ever happens to him in return. [[spoiler: You could argue that losing his hometown of Oakvale was a sort of punishment, but {{YMMV}} on how it effects him in his later life.]]
* MagnificentBastard:
** ''Reaver''. He's handsome, charming, and [[spoiler: tries to trick the Hero into losing their youth the moment he meets them. He destroyed his hometown so he can achieve eternal youth, shoots a sculptor for not getting his buttocks right, kills Barnum because photographs take time to develop, and can kill Lucien before the Hero gets a chance to if you aren't quick enough.]]

* ThatOneBoss:
** The Commandant is ''the'' hardest boss in the game. You only have access to three healing potions, weaker weapons [[spoiler: and if you chose the 'good' options while in the Spire, you might have even temporarily lost an ability or two.]] He hits hard, spams long range will attacks, summons Spire Guards to help him ''and'' the fight is in a very small area.
* TheScrappy:
** Sam and Max aren't well liked because their sidequests include them doing something stupid, and the Hero having to clean up after them. They're never all that grateful when you save them, either, and their supposed humour is hit and miss for most players. [[spoiler: They return in ''VideoGame/FableIII'' from the ''grave'' to screw things over for the Hero of Brightwall too.]]