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*** Among the various characters, Free Spirit Tieria is the most common target of this debate. She's [[SkillGateCharacter very good for newcomers]], but once you're into late-game and have more options, is she still needed? One side says that other Heroes can do better and are worth investing more than her, while the other side still use her regardless of her kit, especially when she's a very gorgeous "waifu material".
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*** Among the various characters, Free Spirit Tieria is the most common target of this debate. She's [[SkillGateCharacter [[SkillGateCharacters very good for newcomers]], but once you're into late-game and have more options, is she still needed? One side says that other Heroes can do better and are worth investing more than her, while the other side still use her regardless of her kit, especially when she's a very gorgeous "waifu material".
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has well-spoken English and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing. Even has an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7o14Wr8I&ab_channel=JubyPhonic amazing cover]] from Music/JubyPhonic (aka Creator/JulietSimmons)!
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has well-spoken English and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing. Even And even has an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7o14Wr8I&ab_channel=JubyPhonic amazing cover]] from Music/JubyPhonic (aka Creator/JulietSimmons)!
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has well-spoken English and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing.
** Has an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7o14Wr8I&ab_channel=JubyPhonic amazing cover]] from Music/JubyPhonic (aka Creator/JulietSimmons)!
** Has an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7o14Wr8I&ab_channel=JubyPhonic amazing cover]] from Music/JubyPhonic (aka Creator/JulietSimmons)!
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has well-spoken English and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing.
** Hasamazing. Even has an [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7o14Wr8I&ab_channel=JubyPhonic amazing cover]] from Music/JubyPhonic (aka Creator/JulietSimmons)!
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** Saying that ''Epic Seven'' characters are unoriginal or [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks rip-offs]] of other anime/manga/game characters when the similarities are too superficial, or if the appearance is now too common nowadays to be considered as an {{expy}} or reference. For example, accusing Silk to be a [[Literature/HowNotToSummonADemonLord Shera]] rip-off won't go too well for you, since their "blonde elf archer with nature-themed green/white clothes" archetype is prevalent in fantasy settings.
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** Saying that ''Epic Seven'' characters are unoriginal or [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks rip-offs]] of other anime/manga/game characters when the similarities are too superficial, or if the appearance is now too common nowadays to be considered as an {{expy}} or reference. For example, accusing Silk to be a [[Literature/HowNotToSummonADemonLord Shera]] rip-off won't go too well for you, since their "blonde elf archer with nature-themed green/white clothes" archetype is prevalent in fantasy settings.
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* MemeticTroll: Biblica (the girl you see on the Covenant, Moonlight and Friendship Summon screens) has gotten this reputation to some. When a 4★ or higher will appear from a summon, a special animation plays with golden light rising from the bottom of the screen; when it's a 5★, either Biblio or Biblica will appear just before the prize is revealed. The problem? Biblica only appears for 5★ ''[[PowerUpLetdown Artifacts.]]''
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* MemeticTroll: Biblica (the girl you see on the Covenant, Moonlight and Friendship Summon screens) has gotten this reputation to some. When a 4★ or higher will appear from a summon, a special animation plays with golden light rising from the bottom of the screen; when it's a 5★, either Biblio or Biblica will appear just before the prize is revealed. The problem? Biblica only appears for 5★ ''[[PowerUpLetdown Artifacts.]]'' Artifacts]].''
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* IKnewIt:
** In a 2019 Korean press conference, the companies announced their plans of making ''Epic Seven'' more consumer-friendly in the coming months. Players who tried other games quickly guessed that ''E7'' would receive some [[AntiFrustrationFeatures safety net or a guaranteed pull]] in its banners, like [[FollowTheLeader older gachas did]]. They were right when this game received safety nets in the Featured and Mystic banners.
** The first Halloween event with Haste and Serila had a [[EvolvingTitleScreen special title screen]]. Upon closer inspection, there seemed to be a silhouette of Luna in the corner of the image. Fans took it as a {{foreshadowing}} of her upcoming banner. At least on the Global server, this came true when Luna's limited-time banner arrived on Halloween 2019.
** Because ''Epic Seven'' is known to be [[FollowTheLeader following the trend]] of ''Summoners War'', former ''SW'' players who migrated to this game predicted the upcoming modes or content of ''E7'' even before they get announced, such as Automaton Tower and World Boss.
** The background art for the 2020 Summer Event shows Yufine at its center. Because of this, the fanbase already expected that she's obviously the next Summer-limited. The announcement on July 21, 2020 confirmed this by showing a silhouette that matches Yufine's new outfit. Players also predicted her to be Fire-elemental because her silhouette is pink.
** In a 2019 Korean press conference, the companies announced their plans of making ''Epic Seven'' more consumer-friendly in the coming months. Players who tried other games quickly guessed that ''E7'' would receive some [[AntiFrustrationFeatures safety net or a guaranteed pull]] in its banners, like [[FollowTheLeader older gachas did]]. They were right when this game received safety nets in the Featured and Mystic banners.
** The first Halloween event with Haste and Serila had a [[EvolvingTitleScreen special title screen]]. Upon closer inspection, there seemed to be a silhouette of Luna in the corner of the image. Fans took it as a {{foreshadowing}} of her upcoming banner. At least on the Global server, this came true when Luna's limited-time banner arrived on Halloween 2019.
** Because ''Epic Seven'' is known to be [[FollowTheLeader following the trend]] of ''Summoners War'', former ''SW'' players who migrated to this game predicted the upcoming modes or content of ''E7'' even before they get announced, such as Automaton Tower and World Boss.
** The background art for the 2020 Summer Event shows Yufine at its center. Because of this, the fanbase already expected that she's obviously the next Summer-limited. The announcement on July 21, 2020 confirmed this by showing a silhouette that matches Yufine's new outfit. Players also predicted her to be Fire-elemental because her silhouette is pink.
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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Acolytes and female antagonists like Tenebria (especially her Specter version) get a lot of fan-art because of her [[EvilIsSexy sexy]] design. It's also common to pair her with the protagonists or Reingar students, like Adlay. [[ShipTease Especially Adlay.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Acolytes and female antagonists like Tenebria (especially her Specter version) get a lot of fan-art because of her [[EvilIsSexy sexy]] sexy design. It's also common to pair her with the protagonists or Reingar students, like Adlay. [[ShipTease Especially Adlay.]]
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** Among the villains, Tenebria is also quite popular, just look at the DracoInLeatherPants and EvilIsSexy entries. A fanart of Tenebria won the 2020 Website/{{Pixiv}} contest for the game, and [[https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/5728999 will be implemented]] as a new costume for her.
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** Among the villains, Tenebria is also quite popular, just look at the DracoInLeatherPants and EvilIsSexy entries.popular. A fanart of Tenebria won the 2020 Website/{{Pixiv}} contest for the game, and [[https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/5728999 will be implemented]] as a new costume for her.
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* EvilIsSexy:
** Despite being an antagonist, Tenebria has a {{Fanservice}} anime design in both her normal and Specter versions, especially with the latter wearing even less clothing and exposing more skin.
** Archdemon Mercedes. Just because Meru has been taken over by the BigBad doesn't mean she no longer has to look hot as hell.
** Despite being an antagonist, Tenebria has a {{Fanservice}} anime design in both her normal and Specter versions, especially with the latter wearing even less clothing and exposing more skin.
** Archdemon Mercedes. Just because Meru has been taken over by the BigBad doesn't mean she no longer has to look hot as hell.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has SurprisinglyGoodEnglish and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALWefhBKBE "Promise"]], an official OST sung by Raon Lee. It has SurprisinglyGoodEnglish well-spoken English and is often described as catchy. This later became an official ad for ''E7'' on Website/YouTube. Even those who don't like mobile games or gacha games find this song amazing.
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** Saying that ''Epic Seven'' characters are unoriginal or [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks rip-offs]] of other anime/manga/game characters when the similarities are too superficial, or if the appearance is now too common nowadays to be considered as an {{expy}} or reference. For example, accusing Silk to be a [[LightNovel/HowNotToSummonADemonLord Shera]] rip-off won't go too well for you, since their "blonde elf archer with nature-themed green/white clothes" archetype is prevalent in fantasy settings.
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** Saying that ''Epic Seven'' characters are unoriginal or [[TheyCopiedItNowItSucks rip-offs]] of other anime/manga/game characters when the similarities are too superficial, or if the appearance is now too common nowadays to be considered as an {{expy}} or reference. For example, accusing Silk to be a [[LightNovel/HowNotToSummonADemonLord [[Literature/HowNotToSummonADemonLord Shera]] rip-off won't go too well for you, since their "blonde elf archer with nature-themed green/white clothes" archetype is prevalent in fantasy settings.
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* HighTierScrappy:
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
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* HighTierScrappy:
**HighTierScrappy: Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** ** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** ** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
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* HighTierScrappy:
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
* LowTierLetdown:
** 4★-5★ Moonlight Heroes [[RareRandomDrop are so rare]] that getting one is considered a BraggingRightsReward, but those with niche or outdated skills are treated as JunkRare. Roaming Warrior Leo was an example of this for a long time because his skills were too situational or in need of a serious [[BalanceBuff rebalance patch]]. He was indeed updated on mid-2020.
** For a 5★, [[TemporaryOnlineContent limited-time]] {{crossover}} unit, Elphelt is mocked because her low ATK stat growth and low damage modifiers hurt her supposed role as a single-target DPS (Her second skill has an additional effect when she kills an enemy, and her third skill gives her an ExtraTurn). It takes a huge amount of investment on Molas and equipment to make her shine as a DPS unit. But since stronger single-target DPS Heroes like Sol or Cermia exist in the same element as Elphelt, all those Molas and equipment work better when invested on them instead. Other players just opt to build Elphelt as a utility support.
** 4★-5★ Moonlight Heroes [[RareRandomDrop are so rare]] that getting one is considered a BraggingRightsReward, but those with niche or outdated skills are treated as JunkRare. Roaming Warrior Leo was an example of this for a long time because his skills were too situational or in need of a serious [[BalanceBuff rebalance patch]]. He was indeed updated on mid-2020.
** For a 5★, [[TemporaryOnlineContent limited-time]] {{crossover}} unit, Elphelt is mocked because her low ATK stat growth and low damage modifiers hurt her supposed role as a single-target DPS (Her second skill has an additional effect when she kills an enemy, and her third skill gives her an ExtraTurn). It takes a huge amount of investment on Molas and equipment to make her shine as a DPS unit. But since stronger single-target DPS Heroes like Sol or Cermia exist in the same element as Elphelt, all those Molas and equipment work better when invested on them instead. Other players just opt to build Elphelt as a utility support.
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* TierInducedScrappy:
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
** 4★-5★ Moonlight Heroes. [[RareRandomDrop They are so rare]] that getting one is considered a BraggingRightsReward, but Moonlight Heroes with niche or outdated skills are treated as JunkRare. Roaming Warrior Leo was an example of this for a long time because his skills were too situational or in need of a serious [[BalanceBuff rebalance patch]]. He was indeed updated on mid-2020.
** For a 5★, [[TemporaryOnlineContent limited-time]] {{crossover}} unit, Elphelt is mocked because her low ATK stat growth and low damage modifiers hurt her supposed role as a single-target DPS (Her second skill has an additional effect when she kills an enemy, and her third skill gives her an ExtraTurn). It takes a huge amount of investment on Molas and equipment to make her shine as a DPS unit. But since stronger single-target DPS Heroes like Sol or Cermia exist in the same element as Elphelt, all those Molas and equipment work better when invested on them instead. Other players just opt to build Elphelt as a utility support.
** Any GameBreaker character applies. In PVP, an overpowered Hero is loved by players who have them, and hated by those who don't have them. Some are just remembered or memed for how strong they are. They were so overpowered that the devs released new Heroes or rebalance old Heroes with utility specifically-aimed at countering their strengths.
*** Arbiter Vildred – So strong that competitive players chased him, is associated with how the initial meta in Japan turned out, and is blamed for why ''E7'' isn't talked a lot online in Japan because of their first impression of him.
*** Dizzy – Fans wondered why the first {{crossover}} event had an overpowered character like Dizzy right from her debut, with some speculating it as a marketing strategy by the devs to earn a lot of revenue from the competitive spenders.
** 4★-5★ Moonlight Heroes. [[RareRandomDrop They are so rare]] that getting one is considered a BraggingRightsReward, but Moonlight Heroes with niche or outdated skills are treated as JunkRare. Roaming Warrior Leo was an example of this for a long time because his skills were too situational or in need of a serious [[BalanceBuff rebalance patch]]. He was indeed updated on mid-2020.
** For a 5★, [[TemporaryOnlineContent limited-time]] {{crossover}} unit, Elphelt is mocked because her low ATK stat growth and low damage modifiers hurt her supposed role as a single-target DPS (Her second skill has an additional effect when she kills an enemy, and her third skill gives her an ExtraTurn). It takes a huge amount of investment on Molas and equipment to make her shine as a DPS unit. But since stronger single-target DPS Heroes like Sol or Cermia exist in the same element as Elphelt, all those Molas and equipment work better when invested on them instead. Other players just opt to build Elphelt as a utility support.
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** Arbiter Vildred is a popular and [[GameBreaker overpowered unit]] that his "Dark Blade" skill (that summons a black-purple hydra to chomp on his enemies) and "Descending Blade!" quote get mentioned a lot by fans. When the 2020 anime of ''LightNovel/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' shows Maple summoning her Poison Dragon/Hydra with almost the same style as Arbiter Vildred, fans either claimed that the anime [[ShoutOut references]] ''E7'' or if it's just another case of OlderThanTheyThink (The ''Bofuri'' light novel started on 2016, while this game got released on 2018). Regardless, the comparisons were abundant. And when the ''Bofuri'' character Mii looks a lot like Cermia of ''E7'', some treat Cermia as an {{expy}} in retrospect.
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** Arbiter Vildred is a popular and [[GameBreaker overpowered unit]] that his "Dark Blade" skill (that summons a black-purple hydra to chomp on his enemies) and "Descending Blade!" quote get mentioned a lot by fans. When the 2020 anime of ''LightNovel/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' ''Literature/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' shows Maple summoning her Poison Dragon/Hydra with almost the same style as Arbiter Vildred, fans either claimed that the anime [[ShoutOut references]] ''E7'' or if it's just another case of OlderThanTheyThink (The ''Bofuri'' light novel started on 2016, while this game got released on 2018). Regardless, the comparisons were abundant. And when the ''Bofuri'' character Mii looks a lot like Cermia of ''E7'', some treat Cermia as an {{expy}} in retrospect.
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** When the ''LightNovel/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' anime got released on 2020, some ''E7'' fans thought that the light novel references this game because Maple's Poison Dragon/Hydra resembles Arbiter Vildred's "Dark Blade", or that Mii looks a lot like Cermia. Truth is, ''Bofuri'' started on 2016, predating this game by 2 years.
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** When the ''LightNovel/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' ''Literature/BofuriIDontWantToGetHurtSoIllMaxOutMyDefense'' anime got released on 2020, some ''E7'' fans thought that the light novel references this game because Maple's Poison Dragon/Hydra resembles Arbiter Vildred's "Dark Blade", or that Mii looks a lot like Cermia. Truth is, ''Bofuri'' started on 2016, predating this game by 2 years.
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Were Still Relevant Dammit is not a trope anymore
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** Some of the online contests done to promote the game. While it's nice to boost presence on social media, skeptics think that ''E7'' is just trying to catch up with the more popular gachas, especially in terms of Website/{{Pixiv}} content or Website/YouTube views where ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' dominated for a long time.
** The WebAnimation/KizunaAi {{crossover}} announcement on June 3, 2020 spawned theories about the collab simply being conducted in an attempt to [[WinBackTheCrowd win back the Japanese players]] who seem to have forgotten this game after five months. Others wished for a WebAnimation/{{Hololive}} collab instead, claiming that Kizuna Ai's popularity peaked on 2018, but it's too late as [=VTuber=] groups are more talked about than her from 2019 onwards.
** Some of the online contests done to promote the game. While it's nice to boost presence on social media, skeptics think that ''E7'' is just trying to catch up with the more popular gachas, especially in terms of Website/{{Pixiv}} content or Website/YouTube views where ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' dominated for a long time.
** The WebAnimation/KizunaAi {{crossover}} announcement on June 3, 2020 spawned theories about the collab simply being conducted in an attempt to [[WinBackTheCrowd win back the Japanese players]] who seem to have forgotten this game after five months. Others wished for a WebAnimation/{{Hololive}} collab instead, claiming that Kizuna Ai's popularity peaked on 2018, but it's too late as [=VTuber=] groups are more talked about than her from 2019 onwards.
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** Fans of ''VideoGame/ArteryGearFusion'' do not generally get along with fans of Epic Seven due to accusations of Artery Gear being too similar to Epic Seven. Epic Seven players argue that their game came first and gives more premium currency, while Artery Gear players argue that the offline battles and better gear system makes it the superior game.
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** Like with other anime-styled gachas having LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, large rosters, the "[[MemeticMutation Waifu vs. Meta]]" debates also apply here.
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