History YMMV / EnemyAtTheGates

4th Dec '16 11:47:32 AM Prometheus117
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* DesignatedHero: Vasili and ''especially'' Tanya suffer from this. The movie tries so hard to make Tanya's desire to abandon her job in intelligence and serve along Vasili seem like the right thing to do, and fails so hard if the viewer has an ounce of common sense.

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* DesignatedHero: Vasili and ''especially'' Tanya suffer from this.this for some. The movie tries so hard to make Tanya's desire to abandon her job in intelligence and serve along Vasili seem like the right thing to do, and fails so hard if the viewer has an ounce of common sense. That said, they're still legitimately among the more heroic members of the cast.



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:König is simply a dedicated soldier throughout most of the film, and even becomes somewhat sympathetic when he tells how he lost his son in the Battle, but he's widely seen to have crossed the line when he hangs Sacha for being a spy to lure out Vasily.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:König is simply a dedicated soldier throughout most of the film, and even becomes somewhat sympathetic when he tells how he lost his son in the Battle, but he's widely seen to have crossed the line when he hangs Sacha for being a spy to lure out Vasily. Despite this, he knew Sacha was a spy all along but hoped that the boy would listen to his warnings to stay at home and stop it, and when he didn't...]]



* RomanticPlotTumor: Does ''anyone'' find the love triangle more interesting than the sniper duel?

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* RomanticPlotTumor: Does ''anyone'' find the love triangle more interesting than the sniper duel?duel? Ironically, it was the ''love triangle'' that actually happened, not the sniper duel.
10th Apr '16 3:56:42 PM YT45
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** Then again, the standard [[CreatorProvincialism Russian]] version of the history of WWII is [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment perhaps not entirely accurate]]. Of course, the movie's plot is undeniably 90% Hollywood.
18th Jun '15 6:11:04 AM TheKaizerreich
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* AmericansHateTingle: Russian audiences hate this movie, and two successive Russian Culture Ministers along with the Russian Military Historical Society have classified this movie as "deliberately anti-Russian propaganda". The main reasons for that, as further explained under ValuesDissonance below, are the weird behaviours of various characters, the fact that Russians consider this movie too light-hearted and how they feel the Red Army is depicted as evil and incompetent (a general problem Russians have with Western-made productions about them).
26th Feb '15 9:23:31 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* {{Narm}}: The look on Creator/RachelWeisz's face during that sex scene isn't so much "You're an amazing lover" as it is "[[FetishRetardant Oh fuck, you just tore something down there, and it hurts like hell.]]"

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* {{Narm}}: The look on Creator/RachelWeisz's face during that sex scene isn't so much "You're an amazing lover" as it is "[[FetishRetardant Oh fuck, shit, I think you just tore something down there, and it hurts like hell.dislocated my pelvis.]]"
6th Jan '15 2:00:39 PM nombretomado
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* {{Narm}}: The look on RachelWeisz's face during that sex scene isn't so much "You're an amazing lover" as it is "[[FetishRetardant Oh fuck, you just tore something down there, and it hurts like hell.]]"

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* {{Narm}}: The look on RachelWeisz's Creator/RachelWeisz's face during that sex scene isn't so much "You're an amazing lover" as it is "[[FetishRetardant Oh fuck, you just tore something down there, and it hurts like hell.]]"
17th Sep '13 12:08:14 PM UltimateParagon
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** Secondly, governmental DisproportionateRetribution aside, if one considers the cultural attitude at the time, it would have only made sense for Danilov to tell her the truth: Sasha died in service to his nation. If Danilov had done that, Sasha would have been remembered as a hero. If a (Soviet) Russian mother receives news of her sonís defection, on that day, she no longer has a son (she would disown him, in addition to him being made a non-person by the government, or worse, sent to a gulag, even shot).

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** Secondly, governmental DisproportionateRetribution aside, if one considers the cultural attitude at the time, it would have only made sense for Danilov to tell her the truth: Sasha died in service to his nation. If Danilov had done that, Sasha would have been remembered as a hero. If a (Soviet) Russian mother receives news of her sonís defection, on that day, she no longer has a son (she would disown him, in addition to him being made a non-person by the government, or worse, sent to a gulag, even shot).shot).

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9th Jun '13 12:08:55 PM Morgenthaler
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:König is simply a dedicated soldier throughout most of the film, and even becomes somewhat sympathetic when he tells how he lost his son in the Battle, but he's widely seen to have crossed the line when he hangs Sacha for being a spy to lure out Vasily.]]
3rd Apr '13 11:15:06 PM FegelCineplex
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* HoYay: Subverted - a viewer who knows nothing about the camaraderie in European armies (and European military culture in general) might think Vasily and Danilov have a thing for each other, but no, they're just army buddies. And it's not just European soldiers who share such man-love. The greatest bonds are formed between men during war.

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* HoYay: Subverted - a viewer who knows nothing about the camaraderie in European armies (and European military culture in general) might think Vasily and Danilov have a thing for each other, but no, they're just army buddies. And it's not just European soldiers who share such man-love. The greatest bonds are formed between men during war. war.
* LoveItOrHateIt
25th Mar '13 5:58:38 AM Austin
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* EvilVersusEvil -- Hitler had the Gestapo, the camps and starting the war via the conquest of Poland. Stalin had the NKVD, the gulag and starting the war via the conquest of Poland. The filmmakers were obviously hoping for at least an EnemyMine sympathy for the protagonists, but asking American audiences to care about a Nazi and a Red chasing each other around Stalingrad in 2001... well, there's a reason the film lost at least 20 million at the US box office.
19th Feb '13 6:21:30 PM DocWildNole
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* EvilVersusEvil -- Hitler had the Gestapo, the camps and starting the war via the conquest of Poland. Stalin had the NKVD, the gulag and starting the war via the conquest of Poland. The filmmakers were obviously hoping for at least an EnemyMine sympathy for the protagonists, but asking American audiences to care about a Nazi and a Red chasing each other around Stalingrad in 2001... well, there's a reason the film lost at least 20 million at the US box office.
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