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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: If there any storyline that proved Spider-Man should not be a FrontlineGeneral in a war, this would be it. Between his lack of willingness to interrogate criminals, and his myopic desire to save the lives of people around him instead of focusing on [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving the entire world]]. His repeated declarations that: "When, I'm around, NO ONE DIES" comes off not as heroic, but naive.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: If there was any storyline that proved Spider-Man should not be a FrontlineGeneral in a war, this would be it. Between his lack of willingness to interrogate criminals, and his myopic desire to save the lives of people around him instead of focusing on [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving the entire world]]. His repeated declarations that: "When, I'm around, NO ONE DIES" comes off not as heroic, but naive.
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** Spider-Man ''acidboards'' Sandman to try to force him to reveal the location of a weapons-factory. Sandman ultimately caves in and confesses, while Spider-man silently admits that he would have stopped it if had gone any longer. Considering Spider-Man just mentioned how "six billion lives" were on the line, the fact that he was willing to give up just because Sandman was suffering displays how inept he is for this line of work.
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noble though, but again, the wrong kind of attitude for someone who's supposed to be in charge. Made even worse by the fact that it was an illusion created by Mysterio, meaning Spider-Man wasted the team's efforts on a wild-goose chase, which is EVEN [[LampshadeHanging LAMPSHADED by Widow]].
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noble though, but again, the wrong kind of attitude for someone who's supposed to be in charge. Made even worse by the fact that it was an illusion created by Mysterio, meaning Spider-Man wasted the team's efforts on a wild-goose chase, which is EVEN [[LampshadeHanging LAMPSHADED by Widow]].
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** Spider-Man ''acidboards'' Sandman to try to force him to reveal the location of a weapons-factory. Sandman ultimately caves in and confesses, while Spider-man silently admits that he would have stopped it if it had gone any longer. Considering Spider-Man just mentioned how "six billion lives" were on the line, the fact that he was willing to give up just because Sandman was suffering displays how inept he is for this line of work.
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noblethough, thought, but again, the wrong kind of attitude for someone who's supposed to be in charge. Made even worse by the fact that it was an illusion created by Mysterio, meaning Spider-Man wasted the team's efforts on a wild-goose chase, which is EVEN [[LampshadeHanging LAMPSHADED by Widow]].
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noble
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: If there any storyline that proved Spider-Man should not be a FrontlineGeneral in a war, this would be it. Between his lack of willingness to interrogate criminals, and his myopic desire to save the lives of people around him instead of focusing on [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving the entire world]]. His repeated declarations that: "When, I'm around, NO ONE DIES" comes off not as heroic, but naive.
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions and the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions and the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].Spider-Man]].
UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: If there any storyline that proved Spider-Man should not be a FrontlineGeneral in a war, this would be it. Between his lack of willingness to interrogate criminals, and his myopic desire to save the lives of people around him instead of focusing on [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving the entire world]]. His repeated declarations that: "When, I'm around, NO ONE DIES" comes off not as heroic, but naive.
** When Black Widow destroys a base in North-Korea, Spider-Man freaks out and demands to know if the guards were led to safety beforehand (they were). Considering how they run their gulags and will likely go back to doing so, it's hard to appreciate him prioritizing their lives. While Dan Slott tried to argue that it wasn't Spider-Man not wanting to kill ANYONE, this rang hollow with [[https://douglasernst.blog/2012/05/25/spider-man-warzone-liability-thinks-small-in-big-situations/ Douglas Ernst who pointed out that that Spider-man was effectively operating in a war-zone and making the choices that would jeopardize his team's mission.]]
** Spider-Man ''acidboards'' Sandman to try to force him to reveal the location of a weapons-factory. Sandman ultimately caves in and confesses, while Spider-man silently admits that he would have stopped it if had gone any longer. Considering Spider-Man just mentioned how "six billion lives" were on the line, the fact that he was willing to give up just because Sandman was suffering displays how inept he is for this line of work.
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noble though, but again, the wrong kind of attitude for someone who's supposed to be in charge. Made even worse by the fact that it was an illusion created by Mysterio, meaning Spider-Man wasted the team's efforts on a wild-goose chase, which is EVEN [[LampshadeHanging LAMPSHADED by Widow]].
** Finally, when Spider-Man has to choose between saving Sable from being drowned by Rhino, and saving the entire world Octavius, he's still prioritizes Sable's life instead. While he does end up making the right choice, it is only at Sable's urgings. Made even worse when he chooses to focus on saving Otto's life instead of checking to see if Sable is still alive. Considering Otto was already dying, and had mere months left anyway, Spider-Man saving him comes off as purely self-serving.
** All in all, Spider-Man cannot accept the fact that he can't save everyone, and that by trying to, he won't save anyone.
UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: If there any storyline that proved Spider-Man should not be a FrontlineGeneral in a war, this would be it. Between his lack of willingness to interrogate criminals, and his myopic desire to save the lives of people around him instead of focusing on [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving the entire world]]. His repeated declarations that: "When, I'm around, NO ONE DIES" comes off not as heroic, but naive.
** When Black Widow destroys a base in North-Korea, Spider-Man freaks out and demands to know if the guards were led to safety beforehand (they were). Considering how they run their gulags and will likely go back to doing so, it's hard to appreciate him prioritizing their lives. While Dan Slott tried to argue that it wasn't Spider-Man not wanting to kill ANYONE, this rang hollow with [[https://douglasernst.blog/2012/05/25/spider-man-warzone-liability-thinks-small-in-big-situations/ Douglas Ernst who pointed out that that Spider-man was effectively operating in a war-zone and making the choices that would jeopardize his team's mission.]]
** Spider-Man ''acidboards'' Sandman to try to force him to reveal the location of a weapons-factory. Sandman ultimately caves in and confesses, while Spider-man silently admits that he would have stopped it if had gone any longer. Considering Spider-Man just mentioned how "six billion lives" were on the line, the fact that he was willing to give up just because Sandman was suffering displays how inept he is for this line of work.
** After the seemingly half the world has been annihilated, Black Widow says they should immediately focus on saving the rest of the world, i.e. 3 billion lives, while Spider-Man wants to focus on the few that are supposedly in danger right where they are. It's a noble though, but again, the wrong kind of attitude for someone who's supposed to be in charge. Made even worse by the fact that it was an illusion created by Mysterio, meaning Spider-Man wasted the team's efforts on a wild-goose chase, which is EVEN [[LampshadeHanging LAMPSHADED by Widow]].
** Finally, when Spider-Man has to choose between saving Sable from being drowned by Rhino, and saving the entire world Octavius, he's still prioritizes Sable's life instead. While he does end up making the right choice, it is only at Sable's urgings. Made even worse when he chooses to focus on saving Otto's life instead of checking to see if Sable is still alive. Considering Otto was already dying, and had mere months left anyway, Spider-Man saving him comes off as purely self-serving.
** All in all, Spider-Man cannot accept the fact that he can't save everyone, and that by trying to, he won't save anyone.
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & and the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & the survivors will wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter and continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & and the survivors will wind up brain dead braindead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter and continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & the survivors will wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter & continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & the survivors will wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter & and continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions& and he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & and the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/{{Spider-Men}}'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/{{Spider-Men}}'', ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & the survivors will wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter & continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & the survivors will wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[SuperiorSpiderMan [[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter & continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[spoiler:Mysterio turns on Doc Ock after Spider-Man points out that if he's right about Otto's intentions & he's planning to kill everyone, Mysterio & the $2 Billion he was paid for his role in the plan will burn with the rest of the planet. At the end of the series, he's the only member of the Sinister Six unaccounted for ([[NeverFoundTheBody Unless one includes Rhino]]) as he leaves before Spider-Man defeats Ock & the freed-from-brainwashing Avengers wake up. Fast forward a few months to ''ComicBook/SpiderMen'', ''ComicBook/{{Spider-Men}}'', and he winds up in the custody of S.H.I.E.L.D. & trapped in the Ultimate Universe rendering his billions worthless anyway.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:Doctor Octopus, and he intends to be remembered as the greatest in human history by killing over 7 billion people]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Ock's revelation that [[spoiler:0.08% of human life will survive, amongst them Spider-Man, and his subsequent pause when Spidey bluffs that Ock had miscalculated & ''all'' life the survivors will die wind up brain dead after their brains are fried, makes more sense with the knowledge that Otto's ''real'' plan was to [[SuperiorSpiderMan switch bodies with Peter & continue living whilst Peter died in his place]], forever remembered as history's greatest monster. It makes Otto's plan even more horrific by reducing it to just another petty revenge scheme against Spider-Man]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk]] as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk]] as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk]] as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].Spider-Man]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk]] as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
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* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk talk]] as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].Spider-Man]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
* OutOfCharacterMoment: Some people saw Spidey's willingness to let [[AntiHero Silver Sable]] drip acid onto Sandman to get him to talk as this; he himself admits it's too much for him and six billion lives were at stake, but Peter's usually one to [[TakeAThirdOption find a better way]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]]. It's possible that he crossed it even earlier than that, as [[spoiler:it's implied Rhino was the only one aware of Ock's real intentions & the rest of the Sinister Six were under the impression that the goal was just to humiliate Spider-Man]].
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** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
** If [[spoiler:Doc Ock]] hadn't crossed it in the past, he gleefully skips over it here as [[spoiler:he reveals to Spider-Man that his plan is to kill 99.92% of the life on Earth, with the remaining 0.08% remembering him as the greatest monster in human history]].
** [[spoiler:Rhino killing Silver Sable by drowning her with a sadistic smile on his face]]. The few times he ''had'' killed before were either accidental or in revenge, and even ''that'' was [[spoiler:by him charging someone, rather the prolonged suffering of drowning someone]].
