History YMMV / EndersGame

29th Apr '17 10:46:18 AM DustSnitch
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* HoYay: Hilariously, considering the politics of the author, but the book is chock-full of homo eroticism. Part of the book takes place on planet ''Eros'', the relationship between the boys in the school is something akin to the homosexual ones between Greco-Roman cadets, Ender refers to Bonzo as being beautiful, Alai has what is very strongly implied to be a gay crush on Ender, oh - and the boys sleep together and wrestle buck-ass naked for most of the story.

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* HoYay: Hilariously, considering the politics of the author, but the book is chock-full of homo eroticism. Part of the book takes place on planet ''Eros'', the relationship between the boys in the school is something akin to the homosexual ones between Greco-Roman cadets, Ender refers to Bonzo as being beautiful, Alai has what is very strongly implied to be a gay crush on Ender, oh - and the boys sleep together and wrestle buck-ass naked for most of the story.
20th Apr '17 10:05:13 AM ironballs16
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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, his decision to use Dr. Device [[EarthShatteringKaboom on the Formic's homeworld]] is because he'd gotten fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]

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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, his decision he decides to use Dr. Device [[EarthShatteringKaboom on the Formic's homeworld]] is because he'd gotten fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]
20th Apr '17 10:04:34 AM ironballs16
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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, his decision to use Dr. Device [[EarthShatteringKaboom on the Formics' homeworld]] is because he'd gotten fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]

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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, his decision to use Dr. Device [[EarthShatteringKaboom on the Formics' Formic's homeworld]] is because he'd gotten fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]
20th Apr '17 10:04:17 AM ironballs16
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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, it's portrayed as him getting fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]

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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, it's portrayed as him getting his decision to use Dr. Device [[EarthShatteringKaboom on the Formics' homeworld]] is because he'd gotten fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/labelnote]]
20th Apr '17 10:00:42 AM ironballs16
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*** And DisproportionateRetribution is admirable, as it acts as a deterrent to future conflict.
20th Apr '17 9:59:52 AM ironballs16
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Deliberate cruelty is the best form of education.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Deliberate cruelty [[SchoolOfHardKnocks is the best form of education.education]].


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*** Alternatively, "greater understanding of your foe enables you to beat them more effectively".
20th Apr '17 9:56:56 AM ironballs16
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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[note]]In the novel, it's portrayed as him getting fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/note]]

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** On top of this is that, due to time constraints, characterization was dropped in favor of getting the critical details inserted appropriately. It also violates ShowDontTell (ironically, given the medium) by having Ender mention that Command School had been going on for months, where he and his team were going at it every day - so Petra's HeroicBSOD in the middle of one fight is completely omitted, and Ender's reaction at the final simulation was ''vastly'' different than in the book.[[note]]In [[labelnote: Spoilers]]In the novel, it's portrayed as him getting fed up with the vindictive cruelty he sees from the adults in forcing them into a hopeless fight, and ''deliberately'' crossing the MoralEventHorizon so they'd flunk him out. In the movie, he cheered alongside his [[TrueCompanions jeesh]] for overcoming impossible odds in the simulation.[[/note]][[/labelnote]]
12th Mar '17 4:20:18 PM CaptNoDad
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a (SeinfeldIsUnfunny for the time) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a (SeinfeldIsUnfunny ([[SeinfeldIsUnfunny for the time) time]]) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.
12th Mar '17 4:19:18 PM CaptNoDad
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a (SinefeldIsUnfunny for the time) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a (SinefeldIsUnfunny (SeinfeldIsUnfunny for the time) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.
12th Mar '17 4:18:29 PM CaptNoDad
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a ([[SinefeldIsUnfunny for the time) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Battle School is suppose to be horrible, and show the inhumane effects war can have on everyone to the point of training ChildSoldiers. But the training in Battle School that the book goes into much detail about sounds like zero gravity laser tag combined with CaptureTheFlag. And the Command School simulations sound like a really advanced RealTimeStrategy game. And in his off hours Ender gets to relax with a ([[SinefeldIsUnfunny (SinefeldIsUnfunny for the time) really advanced AdventureGame. It all sounds really fun, Ender's specific trauma notwithstanding.
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