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* ItGetsBetter: Crowd responses to her SHIMMER debut were lukewarm compared to tag team partner Rayna Von Tosh's. Yeah, Tenille Tayla was the bland one.

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* ItGetsBetter: GrowingTheBeard: Crowd responses to her SHIMMER debut were lukewarm compared to tag team partner Rayna Von Tosh's. Yeah, Tenille Tayla was the bland one.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within two hours. That she's the only Australian on the WWE roster and the company toured there just over a month later (with Emma being featured prominently) probably helped too.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within two hours. That It probably helped that (A) she's the only Australian on the WWE roster and the company toured was touring there just over a month later (with Emma being featured prominently) probably helped too.prominently), and (B) the questions fans were asking could've gotten into the eyes of TMZ, which would not have looked good for their brand.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance; and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier. In the end, it took Emma getting punished for accidentally shoplifting and Santino retiring from in-ring work for her to finally get to go solo.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance; and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier. In the end, it took Emma getting punished for accidentally shoplifting and Santino retiring from in-ring work for her to finally get to go solo.solo, and returning to NXT as a heel over a year later for her to finally get some momentum back.
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That is misuse of the ymmv trope. Emma is not considered Scrappy among JA\'s fans, nor was she ever redemmed in continuation of the story.


* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Emma again. Jane Austen wrote before she started that, "I am going to take a heroine whom no-one but myself will much like."
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* EvilIsSexy: Post-FaceHeelTurn in 2015.
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* ComedyGhetto: Avoided it on NXT as, although she had a comedy gimmick, she was still pushed as a (somewhat) serious wrestler and title contender. But she ended up falling into it on the main roster, mainly due to {{Flanderisation}} so that she became a one-note punchline and was not taken seriously at all.



* ItGetsBetter: Crowd responses to her SHIMMER debut were lukewarm compared to tag team partner Rayna Von Tosh's.

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* ItGetsBetter: Crowd responses to her SHIMMER debut were lukewarm compared to tag team partner Rayna Von Tosh's. Yeah, Tenille Tayla was the bland one.
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* ItGetsBetter: Crowd responses to her SHIMMER debut were lukewarm compared to tag team partner Rayna Von Tosh's.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance; and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier. In the end, it took Santino retiring from in-ring work for Emma to finally get to go solo.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance; and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier. In the end, it took Emma getting punished for accidentally shoplifting and Santino retiring from in-ring work for Emma her to finally get to go solo.
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* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Since Santino retired, she's done a few singles matches on]] ''[[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Superstars,]]'' [[DownerEnding but nothing really high-profile.]]
* EarWorm: That entrance theme...

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* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Since Santino retired, she's done a few singles matches on]] ''[[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Superstars,]]'' [[DownerEnding but nothing really high-profile.]]
]] Presumably, relegating her to the B-shows is the WWE's way of [[RealLifeWritesThePlot punishing Emma for getting charged with theft]] (which they had announced they would do upon re-hiring her).
* EarWorm: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28cY6xPmis That entrance theme...]]
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* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Since Santino retired, she's done a few singles matches on ''Superstars'', but nothing really high-profile.]]

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* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Since Santino retired, she's done a few singles matches on ''Superstars'', on]] ''[[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Superstars,]]'' [[DownerEnding but nothing really high-profile.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance, and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier, though sadly, it took Santino retiring from in-ring work for Emma to finally get to go solo.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance, assistance; and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier, though sadly, angrier. In the end, it took Santino retiring from in-ring work for Emma to finally get to go solo.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within 2 hours. That she's the only Australian on the WWE roster and the company will be touring there just over a month later probably helped too.
* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP.
** Since Santino retired from in-ring work, Emma's had at least one singles match, so she may well be going solo permanently.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within 2 two hours. That she's the only Australian on the WWE roster and the company will be touring toured there just over a month later (with Emma being featured prominently) probably helped too.
* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP.
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ASAP. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Since Santino retired from in-ring work, Emma's had at least one retired, she's done a few singles match, so she may well be going solo permanently.matches on ''Superstars'', but nothing really high-profile.]]


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* LesYay: Quite a lot with Wrestling/{{Paige}}, which often doubled as FoeYay during their time on NXT.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Arguably after she debuted on the main roster. Apparently the idea behind her being teamed up with Santino was that since he's a ditzy comedic face and she's a ditzy comedic face, they'd make a good team... except that hardly any of the fans agreed, because on the one hand, Emma by herself is a fan favourite who is quite capable of getting over without assistance, and on the other hand, while it ''might'' have been possible to pair her up with a male superstar in a team that would actually work, Santino is ''definitely'' not that superstar. Nobody liked the resulting team, which resulted in the two of them getting progressively less screen time, which just led to fans getting angrier, though sadly, it took Santino retiring from in-ring work for Emma to finally get to go solo.
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** The book's portrayal of "gipsies" is very wince-inducing now. Not only is that term used freely, but they only randomly show up once as a threat for Frank to save Harriet from, and are portrayed as a faceless AlwaysChaoticEvil group.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within 2 hours. That she's the only Austrailian on the WWE roster & the company will be touring there just over a month later probably helped too.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired within 2 hours. That she's the only Austrailian Australian on the WWE roster & and the company will be touring there just over a month later probably helped too.


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** Since Santino retired from in-ring work, Emma's had at least one singles match, so she may well be going solo permanently.

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Not an example of Ensemble Darkhorse


* AuthorsSavingThrow: She got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was rehired shortly afterwards.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: She Emma got arrested for 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the roster. She was subsequently rehired shortly afterwards.within 2 hours. That she's the only Austrailian on the WWE roster & the company will be touring there just over a month later probably helped too.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Emma is ''really'' popular amongst the fans.
** Not just the fans, but her ''employers'' as well, on July 2, 2014, Emma was convicted with sixth-degree larceny for forgetting to pay of an "IPod or IPod case" at a self check-out at Wal-Mart. She was only charged with fines and 24-hours of community service, as a result of her misdemeanor, she was released from the WWE by the higher ups, but just a few hours later, they changed their decision and reinstated her back in the WWE.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Emma is ''really'' popular amongst the fans.
** Not just the fans, but her ''employers'' as well, on July 2, 2014, Emma was convicted with sixth-degree larceny for forgetting to pay of an "IPod or IPod case" at a self check-out at Wal-Mart. She was only charged with fines and 24-hours of community service, as a result
fans aware of her misdemeanor, she was released work away from the WWE by the higher ups, but just a few hours later, they changed their decision and reinstated her back in the WWE.main roster.
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** Not just the fans, but her ''employers'' as well, on July 2, 2014, Emma was convicted with sixth-degree larceny for forgetting to pay of an "IPod or IPod case" at a self check-out at Wal-Mart. She was only charged with fines and 24-hours of community service, as a result of her misdemeanor, she was released from the WWE by the higher ups, but just a few hours later, they changed their decision and reinstated her back in the WWE.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After she was fired in the wake of getting arrested for forgetting to scan an [=iPod=], which was due the store needed to meet a quota, and when the story blew up all over internet, she was promptly rehired.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After she was fired in the wake of getting She got arrested for forgetting 'stealing' (in reality, she was using a self-scanner and forgot to scan an [=iPod=], which was due iPod case, and the store needed to meet a quota, so she got arrested) and ended up being fired. The fans went berserk, with quite a few questioning why Emma got fired when people like Cameron (who got arrested for a DUI, lied about where she worked and tried to bribe a cop) and Jack Swagger (who got busted with marijuana) are still on the story blew up all over internet, she roster. She was promptly rehired.rehired shortly afterwards.
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* BadassDecay: It's not her fault, though. It's pretty much impossible to find a fan who likes that she's been paired with Santino. A huge number of fans want Emma to go solo ASAP.
* EarWorm: That entrance theme...
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Emma is ''really'' popular amongst the fans.

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* TheWoobie: Miss Bates is pretty annoying for most of the book, but you want to give her a big hug after Emma insults her.

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* TheWoobie: Miss Bates is pretty annoying for most of the book, but you want to give her a big hug after Emma insults her.her.
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* AuthorsSavingthrow: After she was fired in the wake of getting arrested for forgetting to scan an [=iPod=], which was due the store needed to meet a quota, and when the story blew up all over internet, she was promptly rehired.

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* HavingAGayOldTime: The now-hilarious sequence where Elton reveals to Emma he loves her, which is described as "making violent love."
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* HavingAGayOldTime: The now-hilarious sequence where Elton reveals to Emma he loves her, which is described as "making violent love."
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* ValuesDissonance: Emma's ignorance of Harriet's rank and insistence that the circumstances of Harriet's birth should not deprive her of the same respect and opportunities open to richer, less-tender-hearted women is portrayed as a bad thing. [[hottip:* : In at least one adaptation, Emma lets her imagination run wild and assumes that Harriet's mysterious father is a member of the royal family! This is why she thinks Harriet is suitable for Mr. Elton - not because rank doesn't matter, but because she's imagined a much more illustrious background for Harriet than is plausible. (Mr. Elton would realize that no royal bastard would be enrolled in a school designed to turn out governesses and ladies' maids, but Emma doesn't.)]]

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* ValuesDissonance: Emma's ignorance of Harriet's rank and insistence that the circumstances of Harriet's birth should not deprive her of the same respect and opportunities open to richer, less-tender-hearted women is portrayed as a bad thing. [[hottip:* : [[note]] In at least one adaptation, Emma lets her imagination run wild and assumes that Harriet's mysterious father is a member of the royal family! This is why she thinks Harriet is suitable for Mr. Elton - not because rank doesn't matter, but because she's imagined a much more illustrious background for Harriet than is plausible. (Mr. Elton would realize that no royal bastard would be enrolled in a school designed to turn out governesses and ladies' maids, but Emma doesn't.)]])[[/note]]

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deleting * Wangst: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together! (Notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days.)


* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together! (Notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days.)
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I removed the f-word. I am no prude, but having Miss Bates called \"effing moocher\" is too much for me to take. If I am being prudish, let me know.


* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher (notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days).

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* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher (notably together! (Notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days).days.)
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I think Emma is nothing like Canon Sue. If you want to list it here, provide more context and argumentation.


* CanonSue: Since she gets the guy despite a debatably effective bildungsroman arc, Emma herself occasionally appears to be one of these.

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* TearJerker: With LOADS of [[{{Woobie}} woobieness]] added into it, the reaction of Miss Bates to Emma's slight in the 1996 film comes off as this, ''particularly'' when she says, just above the level of tears, "I must make myself very disagreeable for her to say such a thing to an old...friend..."
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The newest Austen mash-up ''[[http://www.amazon.com/James-Fairfax-Jane-Austen/dp/1607620383/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281652588&sr=8-1 James Fairfax]]'' takes place in an AlternateUniverse where same-gender relationships are not the least bit unusual... and simply {{Gender Flip}}s Jane Fairfax into a male instead of making Emma/Harriet the OfficialCouple--although at least the {{subtext}} between them is openly acknowledged.

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* TearJerker: With LOADS of [[{{Woobie}} woobieness]] added into it, the reaction of Miss Bates to Emma's slight in the 1996 film comes off as this, ''particularly'' when she says, just above the level of tears, "I must make myself very disagreeable for her to say such a thing to an old...friend..."
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The newest Austen mash-up ''[[http://www.amazon.com/James-Fairfax-Jane-Austen/dp/1607620383/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281652588&sr=8-1 James Fairfax]]'' takes place in an AlternateUniverse where same-gender relationships are not the least bit unusual... and simply {{Gender Flip}}s Jane Fairfax into a male instead of making Emma/Harriet the OfficialCouple--although OfficialCouple -- although at least the {{subtext}} between them is openly acknowledged.
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* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher (notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days).

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* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher (notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days).days).
* TheWoobie: Miss Bates is pretty annoying for most of the book, but you want to give her a big hug after Emma insults her.
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* LesYay: Good God. Emma even says she's interested in Harriet because she's so pretty and passionately insists to Mr. Knightley that no man in the world is good enough for her. Not to mention the wording of Emma's relationship with her former governess.
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* CanonSue; Emma herself.
RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Emma again. Jane Austen wrote before she started that, "I am going to take a heroine whom no-one but myself will much like."

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* CanonSue; CanonSue: Since she gets the guy despite a debatably effective bildungsroman arc, Emma herself.
herself occasionally appears to be one of these.
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RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Emma again. Jane Austen wrote before she started that, "I am going to take a heroine whom no-one but myself will much like."



* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher.

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* {{Wangst}}: Miss Bates. Pull yourself together you fucking moocher.moocher (notably the opinion of Emma herself, on her bad days).
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Emma herself. Jane Austen wrote before she started that, "I am going to take a heroine whom no-one but myself will much like."

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* CanonSue; Emma herself.
RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Emma herself.again. Jane Austen wrote before she started that, "I am going to take a heroine whom no-one but myself will much like."


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