History YMMV / EmilieAutumn

31st Oct '15 3:04:49 PM Exagge
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* DoesNotLikeMen: EA has been accused of this, especially with the dawn of the song "Fight Like a Girl" (''I'll get my revenge on the world or at least 49% of the people in it.'' [[note]]The "49%" bit referring to the fact that women, despite their oppressed status, form a slight majority over men in many countries' populations)[[/note]]).
** She has countered this by saying most of the album is open to her male fans and there is some lines about "If you're against this you're with me regardless of gender" lyrics. At least in the demo version before she started performing it.
*** Also in the (recently released) studio version of "Fight Like a Girl," there's the line 'Even if you're only a boy, you can fight like a girl.' Not perfect, but doesn't ENTIRELY hate men.
*** One could also consider that the "49%" is not necessarily referring to the percentage of men there are in the world, but rather, to the fact that Emilie has more supporters on her side than those that are not:
-->"There are more of us than there are of you / So show me your worst!"
** FridgeBrilliance comes into play when it comes full circle, she's refer to woman as the stronger sex, while saying Fight Like a Girl (Weakly) which confuses people which is the POINT of the whole exercise... With the 49 percentile (The people who don't get it) and the If You're Only A Boy ("Even if you're just a boy you can join in too.")

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* DoesNotLikeMen: EA has been accused Some lyrics of this, especially with the dawn of the song "Fight Like a Girl" (''I'll qualify, such as "I'll get my revenge on the world or at least 49% of the people in it.'' " [[note]]The "49%" bit referring to the fact that women, despite their oppressed status, form a slight majority over men in many countries' populations)[[/note]]).
** She has countered this by saying most of the album is open to her male fans and there is some lines about "If you're against this you're with me regardless of gender" lyrics. At least in the demo version before she started performing it.
*** Also in the (recently released) studio version of "Fight Like a Girl," there's the line 'Even if you're only a boy, you can fight like a girl.' Not perfect, but doesn't ENTIRELY hate men.
*** One could also consider that the "49%" is not necessarily referring to the percentage of men there are in the world, but rather, to the fact that Emilie has more supporters on her side than those that are not:
-->"There are more of us than there are of you / So show me your worst!"
** FridgeBrilliance comes into play when it comes full circle, she's refer to woman as the stronger sex, while saying Fight Like a Girl (Weakly) which confuses people which is the POINT of the whole exercise... With the 49 percentile (The people who don't get it) and the If You're Only A Boy ("Even if you're just a boy you can join in too.")
populations)[[/note]]).



*** That Morning Show performance is also where the fan nickname of "Muffin" originated -- Emilie wanted something to replace the PrecisionFStrike in the song, so she asked for suggestions, and received "Muffin." The rest, as they say, is history!
* FanCommunityNicknames: "Muffins" and "Plague Rats."
** FanNickname: Emilie "Awesome" has become memetic recently.

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*** That * FanCommunityNicknames
** Earlier fans were called "Muffins," which came about from the
Morning Show performance is also where the fan nickname of "Muffin" originated -- Emilie wanted something to replace the PrecisionFStrike in the song, so she asked for suggestions, and received "Muffin." The rest, as they say, is history!
* FanCommunityNicknames: "Muffins"
Afterward, she used it to refer to her fans.
** When she moved onto portraying the Asylum of her book, she started calling her fans "Inmates"
and "Plague Rats."
** FanNickname:
Rats" instead, in reference to the new theme of her live shows. Introducing new fans to Emilie "Awesome" has become memetic recently.Autumn likewise became known as "spreading the plague."
31st Oct '15 3:38:30 AM Exagge
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** After the release of ''Opheliac'' Emilie promised that the next album would be more metal and violent, and a few muffins worried that it might be bad. When Fight Like a Girl ended up being a musical concept album instead, other fans complained much more loudly about the change in direction.

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** After the release of ''Opheliac'' Emilie promised that the next album would be more metal and violent, and a few muffins worried that it might be bad. When Fight ''Fight Like a Girl Girl'' ended up being a musical concept album instead, other fans complained much more loudly about the change in direction.
31st Oct '15 3:37:32 AM Exagge
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* BrokenBase: '''Yes.''' There are two camps. Those who love Emilie and support her no matter what, and those who have [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement grown tired of her behaviour, and feel that she's completely lost what made her special in the first place]].
** ''Fight Like a Girl'' has alienated a lot of her ''Opheliac'' era fans as it's not as personal and has more filler than ''Opheliac''.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
**
'''Yes.''' There are two camps. Those who love Emilie and support her no matter what, and those who have [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement grown tired of her behaviour, and feel that she's completely lost what made her special in the first place]].
** Each of her three studio albums have a distinctly different fanbase. ''Fight Like a Girl'' has alienated a lot of her ''Opheliac'' era fans as because it's not as personal and has more filler than ''Opheliac''.''Opheliac'' did. Her first album, ''Enchant'', is wildly softer and more fairy tale oriented than either ''Opheliac'' or ''Fight Like a Girl'', which doesn't impress fans of her later and darker works.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: There were some opinions of this around the release of ''Opheliac'' and with Emilie's promises of the next album being more metal and violent, some are already worried about it being bad.
** The Asylum forum... ''dear'' '''''God''''', the Asylum forum... just about every significant change has led to rage and fury from the muffins (the removal of the 'Filthy Libertines' subforum, the announcement that the 'Speak in Your Own Language' subforums would be made read-only, the chat's transformation, and the removal of every non-EA related subforum to say the least.)
*** There was a rather lovely incident where (Queen) fLee, a former moderator for the forums, made some comment alleging that some people had lied about the reasons they were banned. Cue a very angry reaction from fandom calling her out for being probably one of the biggest reasons why the fandom has become so fractured (she would ban people for ridiculous reasons, and generally was not a nice person to interact with.) One of the biggest resulting scandals can be found summarized [[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Emilie_Autumn#Drama_continues_and_The_Reform here]] -- NSFW.
*** The story became more complicated when it was revealed that the "fan" who had made the comments was [=IceAxe=], who was well known for being a rather disturbed individual who borderline stalked Emilie (and in fact is still obsessed with her.) The details are [[http://waywardvictorianconfessions.tumblr.com/post/87603073688/ as follows]]:
--> "[=IceAxe=] is an Emilie Autumn hoarder and ex-moderator of the forums. Everything that is Emilie related he HAS and I mean everything. Emilie sold an old iPhone of hers on Website/{{Ebay}} and put some random things like music and voice recordings on it. [=IceAxe=] won it. When he got kicked off the moderator team and banned from the forums, he found Emilie's old phone number on the iPhone. Taking a shot, he sent a private text message to that number and it turns out that was STILL Emilie's number. She freaked out and promptly banned him from any Emilie Autumn shows or events for life."

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: There were some opinions of this around TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** After
the release of ''Opheliac'' and with Emilie's promises of Emilie promised that the next album being would be more metal and violent, some are already and a few muffins worried that it might be bad. When Fight Like a Girl ended up being a musical concept album instead, other fans complained much more loudly about it being bad.
the change in direction.
** The Asylum forum... ''dear'' '''''God''''', the Asylum forum... just about every significant change has made, including its sudden closure, led to rage and fury from the muffins (the removal of the 'Filthy Libertines' subforum, the announcement that the 'Speak in Your Own Language' subforums would be made read-only, the chat's transformation, and the removal of every non-EA related subforum to say the least.)
*** There was a rather lovely incident where (Queen) fLee, a former moderator for the forums, made some comment alleging that some people had lied about the reasons they were banned. Cue a very angry reaction from fandom calling her out for being probably one of the biggest reasons why the fandom has become so fractured (she would ban people for ridiculous reasons, and generally was not a nice person to interact with.) One of the biggest resulting scandals can be found summarized [[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Emilie_Autumn#Drama_continues_and_The_Reform here]] -- NSFW.
*** The story became more complicated when it was revealed that the "fan" who had made the comments was [=IceAxe=], who was well known for being a rather disturbed individual who borderline stalked Emilie (and in fact is still obsessed with her.) The details are [[http://waywardvictorianconfessions.tumblr.com/post/87603073688/ as follows]]:
--> "[=IceAxe=] is an Emilie Autumn hoarder and ex-moderator of the forums. Everything that is Emilie related he HAS and I mean everything. Emilie sold an old iPhone of hers on Website/{{Ebay}} and put some random things like music and voice recordings on it. [=IceAxe=] won it. When he got kicked off the moderator team and banned from the forums, he found Emilie's old phone number on the iPhone. Taking a shot, he sent a private text message to that number and it turns out that was STILL Emilie's number. She freaked out and promptly banned him from any Emilie Autumn shows or events for life."
fans.
26th Oct '15 12:57:49 AM iveru
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* FandomRivalry: With Music/LadyGaga's fans, Little Monsters, especially after Emilie said that she heard "Alejandro" in a store and "it made [her] want to blow [her] brains out" (although she later claimed to have never heard any of Gaga's songs and to not be familiar with her,) and after she accused both Gaga and the film Film/SuckerPunch of "stealing" her story (and in Gaga's case, of "stealing" her stage props of a wheelchair and crutches.)

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* FandomRivalry: With Music/LadyGaga's fans, Little Monsters, especially after Emilie said that she heard "Alejandro" in a store and "it made [her] want to blow [her] brains out" (although she later claimed to have never heard any of Gaga's songs and to not be familiar with her,) and after she accused both Gaga and the film Film/SuckerPunch of "stealing" her story (and in Gaga's case, of "stealing" her stage props of a wheelchair and crutches.)
26th Oct '15 12:55:46 AM iveru
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* CrackIsCheaper: A lifetime membership in her official fanclub was $100, though on the plus side, you got some awesome swag in addition to membership. When she stopped accepting lifetime memberships, prices became much, much more reasonable. Unfortunately, the fanclub barely lasted a year and closed in September 2014.

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* CrackIsCheaper: A lifetime membership in her official fanclub was $100, though on the plus side, you got some awesome swag in addition to membership.$100. When she stopped accepting lifetime memberships, prices became much, much more reasonable. Unfortunately, the fanclub barely lasted a year and closed in September 2014.
6th Jul '15 11:54:15 AM nombretomado
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* MemeticMutation: [[{{Lolcats}} LolEAs]].

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* MemeticMutation: [[{{Lolcats}} [[WebOriginal/LOLCats LolEAs]].
1st Jul '15 12:06:52 AM Exagge
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** She shut down her forum, lashed out at forum users in the Website/{{Facebook}} post announcing the forum's closure, including saying that everyone who used the forum should grow up and go outside.
** Before the forum closed, she reacted poorly to many opinions that were critical to her, and to insults and assumptions made about her bipolar disorder. Both of these lead to the infamous [=CosetteAlice=] incident, which lead to her quitting the forum entirely before she closed it years later.

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** She shut down her forum, forum and then lashed out at forum users in the Website/{{Facebook}} post announcing the forum's closure, including saying that everyone who used the forum should grow up and go outside.
** Before the forum closed, she reacted poorly to many opinions that were critical to her, and to insults and criticism as well as assumptions made about her bipolar disorder. Both of these disorder on the site. This attitude lead to the infamous [=CosetteAlice=] incident, which lead to her quitting the forum entirely before she closed it years later.
10th Apr '15 7:44:22 PM Himbeergeist
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** "Ever" bears a strinking resemblance to "Love Ridden" by Music/FionaApple.
31st Jan '15 9:08:29 PM spirasen
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** FLAG has alienated a lot of her Opheliac era fans as it's not as personal and has more filler than Opheliac.

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** FLAG ''Fight Like a Girl'' has alienated a lot of her Opheliac ''Opheliac'' era fans as it's not as personal and has more filler than Opheliac. ''Opheliac''.



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2UE0gfEaHI Dominant]] deserves special mention.
** "The Art of Suicide" (a sarcastic examination and condemnation of the reasons people use for ending their lives) becomes this in spades with a little context, when you realize that the album "Opheliac" (where the song appears) was made as a substitute for suicide.
** I Know Where You Sleep, Thank God I'm Pretty, Opheliac.
** Unlaced, the entire album, it is entirely perfect arguably and tells a story for sure. What this story is, is open to debate...
** Fight Like A Girl gets special mention for the vocal evolution she goes through and the new sound she experiments with.
** "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o30DMyE7xTE By the sword, I swear!]]". Come on, it's a song about [[PrecisionFStrike frickin']] knights! The lyrics alone are empowering.
* DoesNotLikeMen: EA has been accused of this, especially with the dawn of the song "Fight Like A Girl"(''Iíll get my revenge on the world or at least 49% of the people in it'' [[note]] the "49%" bit referring to the fact that women, despite their oppressed status, form a slight majority over men in many countries' populations)[[/note]]).
** She has countered this by saying most of the album is open to her male fans and there is some lines about "If you're against this you're with me regardless of gender" lyrics. At least in the demo version before she started performing it.
*** Also in the (recently released) studio version of Fight Like A Girl, there's the line 'Even if you're only a boy, you can fight like a girl.' Not perfect, but doesn't ENTIRELY hate men.

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2UE0gfEaHI Dominant]] "Dominant"]] deserves special mention.
** "The Art of Suicide" (a sarcastic examination and condemnation of the reasons people use for ending their lives) becomes this in spades with a little context, when you realize that the album "Opheliac" ''Opheliac'' (where the song appears) was made as a substitute for suicide.
** I "I Know Where You Sleep, Thank Sleep," "Thank God I'm Pretty, Opheliac.
Pretty," and "Opheliac."
** Unlaced, ''Unlaced'', the entire album, it is entirely perfect arguably and tells a story for sure. What this story is, is open to debate...
debate...
** Fight ''Fight Like A Girl a Girl'' gets special mention for the vocal evolution she goes through and the new sound she experiments with.
** "[[http://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o30DMyE7xTE com/watch?v=1Nnyg1k-iZk By the sword, I swear!]]". Come on, it's a song about [[PrecisionFStrike frickin']] knights! The lyrics alone are empowering.
* DoesNotLikeMen: EA has been accused of this, especially with the dawn of the song "Fight Like A Girl"(''Iíll a Girl" (''I'll get my revenge on the world or at least 49% of the people in it'' [[note]] the it.'' [[note]]The "49%" bit referring to the fact that women, despite their oppressed status, form a slight majority over men in many countries' populations)[[/note]]).
** She has countered this by saying most of the album is open to her male fans and there is some lines about "If you're against this you're with me regardless of gender" lyrics. At least in the demo version before she started performing it.
it.
*** Also in the (recently released) studio version of Fight "Fight Like A Girl, a Girl," there's the line 'Even if you're only a boy, you can fight like a girl.' Not perfect, but doesn't ENTIRELY hate men.



-->"There are more of us than there are of you/So show me your worst!"
** FridgeBrilliance comes into play when it comes full circle, she's refer to woman as the stronger sex, while saying Fight Like A Girl (Weakly) which confuses people which is the POINT of the whole exercise...With the 49 percentile (The people who don't get it) and the If You're Only A Boy ("Even if you're just a boy you can join in too").
* EarWorm: All of Opheliac, Enchant, Fight Like A Girl and Unlaced.
* EndingFatigue: on the album, the end of ''God Help Me'' is drawn out and repetitive for most of the second half of the song. Live, it's where the Crumpets get... ah, ''enthusiastic'' with their cups of tea and where Captain Maggots stage-dives.
* FaceOfTheBand: Despite Emilie being a solo artist, her live shows avert this. Most muffins can name the late Opheliac era line up of Bloody Crumpets (Veronica, Aprella, Captain Maggots, and Contessa), which was probably helped by them being introduced during the show. The Crumpets preceding them tend not to have their names known as well however, though most fans can name at least Captain Vecona and Lady Joo Hee (who is the only Crumpet on any album).
** For the record, here's a list of Crumpets past and present: [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2465168261/ The Naughty Veronica]] (real name Veronica Varlow), [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/f95f4533702119874add8694cb2bc0de/tumblr_mv9av8cvwi1rddp3zo1_500.png Moth/Lady Amalthea]] (real name Jill Evyn), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/cobratastic/2106270043/ Apnea]], [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2446493895_39eb36a85d.jpg?v=0 Little Lucina, Mistress of Sin]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2465995168/ Ulorin Vex]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000331120/in/set-72157608626696343/ The Lady Aprella]], [[http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2423602297_cb0aa3c788.jpg?v=0 Lady Joo Hee, Centre of Happiness]] (real name Sarah Kim, now a cello teacher in Chicago), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2431840427/ Captain Vecona]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000344640/in/set-72157608626696343/ Captain Maggot]] (real name Maggie Lally, also lead singer for "Insects vs. Robots", currently on hiatus from the Crumpets to focus on her music career), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000334970/in/set-72157608626696343/ The Blessed Contessa]], [[http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130624005748/emilie-autumn/images/thumb/d/dd/554.png/220px-554.png/ Little Miss Sugarless]], Miss Violet, Harlot of the Harpsichord (who never actually appeared on stage), Lady Tristan (early Opheliac era), Little Sabine (same as Miss Violet - announced but never debuted) and Jacinda (real name Jacinda Espinosa - who [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8r9lTR3NAA performed]] "Misery Loves Company" with Emilie and Lady Joo Hee on the WGN's Morning News (Janury 12th, 2006)).
*** That Morning Show performance is also where the fan nickname of "Muffin" originated - Emilie wanted something to replace the PrecisionFStrike in the song, so she asked for suggestions, and received "Muffin". The rest, as they say, is history!
* FanCommunityNicknames: "Muffins" and "Plague Rats".

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-->"There are more of us than there are of you/So you / So show me your worst!"
** FridgeBrilliance comes into play when it comes full circle, she's refer to woman as the stronger sex, while saying Fight Like A a Girl (Weakly) which confuses people which is the POINT of the whole exercise...exercise... With the 49 percentile (The people who don't get it) and the If You're Only A Boy ("Even if you're just a boy you can join in too").
too.")
* EarWorm: All of Opheliac, Enchant, Fight ''Opheliac'', ''Enchant'', ''Fight Like A Girl a Girl'', and Unlaced.
Unlaced.
* EndingFatigue: on On the album, the end of ''God "God Help Me'' Me" is drawn out and repetitive for most of the second half of the song. Live, it's where the Crumpets get... ah, ''enthusiastic'' with their cups of tea and where Captain Maggots stage-dives.
* FaceOfTheBand: Despite Emilie being a solo artist, her live shows avert this. Most muffins can name the late Opheliac ''Opheliac'' era line up of Bloody Crumpets (Veronica, Aprella, Captain Maggots, and Contessa), Contessa,) which was probably helped by them being introduced during the show. The Crumpets preceding them tend not to have their names known as well however, though most fans can name at least Captain Vecona and Lady Joo Hee (who is the only Crumpet on any album).
album.)
** For the record, here's a list of Crumpets past and present: [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2465168261/ [[http://i.imgur.com/c2c4tsH.jpg The Naughty Veronica]] (real name Veronica Varlow), Varlow,) [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/f95f4533702119874add8694cb2bc0de/tumblr_mv9av8cvwi1rddp3zo1_500.png Moth/Lady Moth / Lady Amalthea]] (real name Jill Evyn), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/cobratastic/2106270043/ Evyn,) [[http://i.imgur.com/ihItqLt.jpg Apnea]], [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/2446493895_39eb36a85d.jpg?v=0 jpg Little Lucina, Mistress of Sin]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2465995168/ [[http://i.imgur.com/S4DQRMY.jpg Ulorin Vex]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000331120/in/set-72157608626696343/ [[http://i.imgur.com/I3PSsop.jpg The Lady Aprella]], [[http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/2423602297_cb0aa3c788.jpg?v=0 jpg Lady Joo Hee, Centre of Happiness]] (real name Sarah Kim, now a cello teacher in Chicago), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deadbysunrise/2431840427/ [[http://i.imgur.com/lp0vVrw.jpg Captain Vecona]], [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000344640/in/set-72157608626696343/ [[http://i.imgur.com/KeRRfCF.jpg Captain Maggot]] (real name Maggie Lally, also lead singer for "Insects vs. Robots", Music/InsectsVsRobots," currently on hiatus from the Crumpets to focus on her music career), [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/needmorecoffeeman/3000334970/in/set-72157608626696343/ [[http://i.imgur.com/HDu9Vg7.jpg The Blessed Contessa]], [[http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130624005748/emilie-autumn/images/thumb/d/dd/554.png/220px-554.png/ [[http://i.imgur.com/IJscVRn.png Little Miss Sugarless]], Miss Violet, Harlot of the Harpsichord (who never actually appeared on stage), stage,) Lady Tristan (early Opheliac era), ''Opheliac'' era,) Little Sabine (same as Miss Violet - -- announced but never debuted) and Jacinda (real name Jacinda Espinosa - -- who [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8r9lTR3NAA performed]] "Misery Loves Company" with Emilie and Lady Joo Hee on the WGN's Morning News (Janury (January 12th, 2006)).
2006.)
*** That Morning Show performance is also where the fan nickname of "Muffin" originated - -- Emilie wanted something to replace the PrecisionFStrike in the song, so she asked for suggestions, and received "Muffin". "Muffin." The rest, as they say, is history!
* FanCommunityNicknames: "Muffins" and "Plague Rats". Rats."



* FandomRivalry: With LadyGaga's fans, Little Monsters, especially after Emilie said that she heard "Alejandro" in a store and "it made [her] want to blow [her] brains out" (although she later claimed to have never heard any of Gaga's songs and to not be familiar with her), and after she accused both Gaga and the film SuckerPunch of "stealing" her story (and in Gaga's case, of "stealing" her stage props of a wheelchair and crutches).
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Owing much to her old label being German, Emilie did quite a bit of touring in Europe (5 tours since 2007) with Opheliac before getting to perform in North America at all and it wasn't until late 2009 that she could do a full tour. She knows it and gave a ShoutOut to the Hoff in a [[http://www.shrednews.com/chat-with-emilie-autumn/ recent interview]].

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* FandomRivalry: With LadyGaga's Music/LadyGaga's fans, Little Monsters, especially after Emilie said that she heard "Alejandro" in a store and "it made [her] want to blow [her] brains out" (although she later claimed to have never heard any of Gaga's songs and to not be familiar with her), her,) and after she accused both Gaga and the film SuckerPunch Film/SuckerPunch of "stealing" her story (and in Gaga's case, of "stealing" her stage props of a wheelchair and crutches).
crutches.)
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Owing much to her old label being German, [[UsefulNotes/{{Germany}} German,]] Emilie did quite a bit of touring in Europe (5 tours since 2007) with Opheliac ''Opheliac'' before getting to perform in North America at all and it wasn't until late 2009 that she could do a full tour. She knows it and gave a ShoutOut to the Hoff [[Creator/DavidHasselhoff Hoff]] in a [[http://www.shrednews.com/chat-with-emilie-autumn/ recent interview]].interview.



** She shut down her forum, lashed out at forum users in the FaceBook post announcing the forum's closure, including saying that everyone who used the forum should grow up and go outside.

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** She shut down her forum, lashed out at forum users in the FaceBook Website/{{Facebook}} post announcing the forum's closure, including saying that everyone who used the forum should grow up and go outside. outside.



** She has destroyed several business relationships (those with [=RockLove=] and [=AromaLeigh=] are the most well-known). There are also several fans who never received items they ordered from EA (including one fan who bought her iPod for a thousand dollars), and have yet to receive a refund.

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** She has destroyed several business relationships (those with [=RockLove=] and [=AromaLeigh=] are the most well-known). well-known.) There are also several fans who never received items they ordered from EA (including one fan who bought her iPod for a thousand dollars), dollars,) and have yet to receive a refund. refund.



** "Fucking patronizing fucking." amongst her detractors.
* NightmareFuel: [[NIghtmareFuel/EmilieAutumn Yup.]]
* PeripheryDemographic: Despite the strong feminist themes in her work, a significant portion of Autumn's fan base is male; she refers to them as her "Asylum Boys".
* SweetDreamsFuel: Her poem "Ghost", of a woman who has fallen for and is being courted by a ghost. It's surprisingly sweet.
** "Remember", from Enchant, arguably qualifies.
** "Across The Sky" heals whoever listens to it.
** "Crazy He Calls Me" is kind of sweet in its nuttiness.
** Her acoustic violin songs ''Revelry, Leclair-Tabourin'' and ''Vitali-Chaconne'' brings the sweet dreams too.
** "All My Loving" would also qualify.
** "I Don't Understand" from Fight Like A Girl could apply.
** "Swallow" is the most calm track off Opheliac.
** "What If" is very gentle and beautiful.
* {{Squick}}: "Miss Lucy Had Some Leeches". Parts of "Fight Like A Girl".
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong:
** "What If" has more than a few similiarities to "Silent All These Years" by Music/ToriAmos, right down to the title of the former conspicuously appearing in the chorus of the latter.
** Listen to "Castle Down". Then go listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WPyH51kS4 "Candlelight"]] by Music/ImogenHeap.

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** "Fucking patronizing fucking." amongst her detractors.
detractors.
* NightmareFuel: [[NIghtmareFuel/EmilieAutumn Yup.]]
[[NightmareFuel/EmilieAutumn Yup]].
* PeripheryDemographic: Despite the strong feminist themes in her work, a significant portion of Autumn's fan base is male; she refers to them as her "Asylum Boys".
Boys."
* SweetDreamsFuel: Her poem "Ghost", "Ghost," of a woman who has fallen for and is being courted by a ghost. It's surprisingly sweet.
** "Remember", "Remember," from Enchant, ''Enchant'', arguably qualifies.
** "Across The the Sky" heals whoever listens to it.
it.
** "Crazy He Calls Me" is kind of sweet in its nuttiness.
nuttiness.
** Her acoustic violin songs ''Revelry, Leclair-Tabourin'' songs: "Revelry," "Tambourin" (Music/JeanMarieLeclair,) and ''Vitali-Chaconne'' "Chaconne" (Music/TomasoAntonioVitali,) brings the sweet dreams too.
too.
** "All My Loving" would also qualify.
qualify.
** "I Don't Understand" from Fight ''Fight Like A Girl a Girl'' could apply.
apply.
** "Swallow" is the most calm track off Opheliac.
''Opheliac''.
** "What If" is very gentle and beautiful.
beautiful.
* {{Squick}}: "Miss Lucy Had Some Leeches". Leeches." Parts of "Fight Like A Girl".
a Girl."
* SuspiciouslySimilarSong:
SuspiciouslySimilarSong:
** "What If" has more than a few similiarities similarities to "Silent All These Years" by Music/ToriAmos, right down to the title of the former conspicuously appearing in the chorus of the latter.
** Listen to "Castle Down". Down." Then go listen to [[https://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WPyH51kS4 "Candlelight"]] by Music/ImogenHeap.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: There were some opinions of this around the release of Opheliac and with Emilie's promises of the next album being more metal and violent, some are already worried about it being bad.
** The Asylum forum... ''dear'' '''''God''''', the Asylum forum... just about every significant change has led to rage and fury from the muffins (the removal of the 'Filthy Libertines' subforum, the announcement that the 'Speak In Your Own Language' subforums would be made read-only, the chat's transformation, and the removal of every non-EA related subforum to say the least).
*** There was a rather lovely incident where fLee, a former moderator for the forums, made some comment alleging that some people had lied about the reasons they were banned. Cue a very angry reaction from fandom calling her out for being probably one of the biggest reasons why the fandom has become so fractured (she would ban people for ridiculous reasons, and generally was not a nice person to interact with). One of the biggest resulting scandals can be found summarized [[https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Emilie_Autumn#Drama_continues_and_The_Reform here]] - NSFW.
*** The story became more complicated when it was revealed that the "fan" who had made the comments was [=IceAxe=], who was [[http://thegreenfred.tumblr.com/post/87841500586 well known]] for being a rather disturbed individual who borderline stalked Emilie (and in fact is still obsessed with her). The details are [[http://waywardvictorianconfessions.tumblr.com/post/87603073688/im-really-pissed-that-shes-blaming-the-forum as follows]]:
--> "Iceaxe is an Emilie Autumn hoarder and ex-moderator of the forums. Everything that is Emilie related he HAS and I mean everything. Emilie sold an old iphone of hers on ebay and put some random things like music and voice recordings on it. Iceaxe won it. When he got kicked off the moderator team and banned from the forums, he found Emilie's old phone number on the iphone. Taking a shot, he sent a private text message to that number and it turns out that was STILL Emilie's number. She freaked out and promptly banned him from any Emilie Autumn shows or events for life."

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: There were some opinions of this around the release of Opheliac ''Opheliac'' and with Emilie's promises of the next album being more metal and violent, some are already worried about it being bad.
** The Asylum forum... ''dear'' '''''God''''', the Asylum forum... just about every significant change has led to rage and fury from the muffins (the removal of the 'Filthy Libertines' subforum, the announcement that the 'Speak In in Your Own Language' subforums would be made read-only, the chat's transformation, and the removal of every non-EA related subforum to say the least).
least.)
*** There was a rather lovely incident where (Queen) fLee, a former moderator for the forums, made some comment alleging that some people had lied about the reasons they were banned. Cue a very angry reaction from fandom calling her out for being probably one of the biggest reasons why the fandom has become so fractured (she would ban people for ridiculous reasons, and generally was not a nice person to interact with). with.) One of the biggest resulting scandals can be found summarized [[https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Emilie_Autumn#Drama_continues_and_The_Reform [[http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Emilie_Autumn#Drama_continues_and_The_Reform here]] - NSFW.
-- NSFW.
*** The story became more complicated when it was revealed that the "fan" who had made the comments was [=IceAxe=], who was [[http://thegreenfred.well known for being a rather disturbed individual who borderline stalked Emilie (and in fact is still obsessed with her.) The details are [[http://waywardvictorianconfessions.tumblr.com/post/87841500586 well known]] for being a rather disturbed individual who borderline stalked Emilie (and in fact is still obsessed with her). The details are [[http://waywardvictorianconfessions.tumblr.com/post/87603073688/im-really-pissed-that-shes-blaming-the-forum com/post/87603073688/ as follows]]:
--> "Iceaxe "[=IceAxe=] is an Emilie Autumn hoarder and ex-moderator of the forums. Everything that is Emilie related he HAS and I mean everything. Emilie sold an old iphone iPhone of hers on ebay Website/{{Ebay}} and put some random things like music and voice recordings on it. Iceaxe [=IceAxe=] won it. When he got kicked off the moderator team and banned from the forums, he found Emilie's old phone number on the iphone.iPhone. Taking a shot, he sent a private text message to that number and it turns out that was STILL Emilie's number. She freaked out and promptly banned him from any Emilie Autumn shows or events for life."
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* UnfortunateImplications: Naturally she has come under fire for "excluding" males in her Fight Like A Girl song.
** And, you know, wanting to get revenge on all men and saying "Even if you're 'only' a boy"...
** Some people have taken issue with "Take the Pill", pointing out that while it may be a flawed system, some people actually need medication to manage mental illness and that shouldn't be a bad thing.
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