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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}. [[TabletopGame/Jakandor]] could also be seen as a proto-Eberron, with two morally grey factions that the Party could be members of, rather than the dozens of organizations, houses, nations, and religions vying for control of Khorvaire.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}.{{TabletopGame/Mystara}}.
* VindicatedByHistory: While [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms]] remains the most popular D&D Setting, [[TabletopGame/Ravenloft]] is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.
* VindicatedByHistory: While [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms]] remains the most popular D&D Setting, [[TabletopGame/Ravenloft]] is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: While many of the changes for 4e stuck nicely, introducing Tieflings, Dragonborn, and Eladrin into Eberron, fans generally agree that there is not now nor has there ever been a 14th Plane called Baator! As Wayfinders Guide didn't mention it, this may be headed towards CanonDiscontinuity.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{Mystara}}.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{Mystara}}.{{TabletopGame/Mystara}}.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.War.
* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{Mystara}}.
* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{Mystara}}.
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* FanNickname: Razorclaws are often called ''ThunderCats''.
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* FanNickname: Razorclaws are often called ''ThunderCats''.''WesternAnimation/{{ThunderCats|1985}}''.
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* BrokenBase: Many "traditionalist" ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' players found the setting too radically different from the earlier MedievalFantasy[=/=]HighFantasy settings like ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{ForgottenRealms}}''. Ironically, the main complaint was that the setting was just too ''different'' from the already existing ones, which was kind of the point of launching a new campaign setting in the first place.
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* BrokenBase: Many "traditionalist" ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' players found the setting too radically different from the earlier MedievalFantasy[=/=]HighFantasy settings like ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{ForgottenRealms}}''.''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms''. Ironically, the main complaint was that the setting was just too ''different'' from the already existing ones, which was kind of the point of launching a new campaign setting in the first place.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.
* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well... Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well... Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.
* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well... Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.War.
* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well... Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
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* PuritySue: Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people... and busy plotting world domination.
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* MemeticMutation: [[TokenMiniMoe Loli]]-[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Pope]] Jaela Daran (also known as [[JailBait Jael]][[IncrediblyLamePun bait]]), Rood the Doorforged, [[http://montreuil.deviantart.com/art/Flash-and-Friends-2012-320461028 Warforged Pimps]]...
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* MemeticMutation: [[TokenMiniMoe Loli]]-[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Pope]] Jaela Daran, Daran (also known as [[JailBait Jael]][[IncrediblyLamePun bait]]), Rood the Doorforged, [[http://montreuil.deviantart.com/art/Flash-and-Friends-2012-320461028 Warforged Pimps]]...
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While not explicitly stated, there is an implication of homosexual relationships given the kalashtar\'s stated preference for being with members of the same quori lineage.
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* HoYay: YaoiGenre [[YaoiFangirl fans]] might enjoy the fact that the [[{{Bishonen}} kalashtar]] are described as having a strong preference for the company of members of the same quori lineage, and do not commonly form long-term relationships or marriages with members of other lineages. Since each lineage consists of only one gender...
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** ''[[Creator/MontyPython Everyone]]'' [[Creator/MontyPython expects the Thranish Inquisition]].
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** Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
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* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...
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* TheyJustDidntCare: ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...well...
** Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
** Considering Eberron has no MetaPlot, it's likely they knew the story would be non-canon in the first place.
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* BrokenBase: Many "traditionalist" ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' players found the setting too radically different from the earlier MedievalFantasy[=/=]HighFantasy settings like ''TabletopGame/{{Greyhawk}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Dragonlance}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{ForgottenRealms}}''. Ironically, the main complaint was that the setting was just too ''different'' from the already existing ones, which was kind of the point of launching a new campaign setting in the first place.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: From 4e player's guide, the Orcs passed from being a druic/shamanistic neutral race ready to protect the world from nameless horrors and ocassional bounty hunters... [[StatusQuoIsGod into becoming the run of the Mill evil monsters from the last 30 years]]. Quite the let down.
** And then changed right back to hunter druids in the DM guide. Indeed, part of the subtext of the guide is that the [=PCs=] don't know everything.
** And then changed right back to hunter druids in the DM guide. Indeed, part of the subtext of the guide is that the [=PCs=] don't know everything.
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* PuritySue: Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people.... and busy plotting world domination.
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* PuritySue: Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people....people... and busy plotting world domination.
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** And then changed right back to hunter druids in the DM guide. Indeed, part of the subtext of the guide is that the PCs don't know everything.
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* FanNickname: Razorclaws are often called ''ThunderCats''.
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* MemeticMutation: [[{{Lolicon}} Loli]]-[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking -[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Pope]] Jaela Daran, Rood the Doorforged, [[http://montreuil.deviantart.com/art/Flash-and-quot-Friends-quot-149392540 Warforged Pimps]]...
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* TheyJustDidntCare: ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' ''VideoGame/DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...
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* AccidentalInnuendo - [[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/pgte_gallery/95017.jpg Look at the Skeleton Bra.]]
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: House Cannith: The world’s best war profiteers or a bunch of raving lunatic scientists doing what they do to just to push SCIENCE forward.
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* AccidentalInnuendo - AccidentalInnuendo: [[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/pgte_gallery/95017.jpg Look at the Skeleton Bra.]]
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: House Cannith: The world’s best war profiteers or a bunch of raving lunatic scientists doing what they do to just to push SCIENCE forward. (Since Cannith is split into three rival factions, it's quite possible for them to be both and more.)
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: House Cannith: The world’s best war profiteers or a bunch of raving lunatic scientists doing what they do to just to push SCIENCE forward. (Since Cannith is split into three rival factions, it's quite possible for them to be both and more.)
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* FandomRivalry - Eberron fans and Forgotten Realms fans.
* MagnificentBastard - With so many [[TheChessmaster Chessmasters]], there's more than a few of these out there.
* MemeticMolester - [[http://eberroncomic.blogspot.com/ Cardinal Krozen]]
* MemeticMutation - [[{{Lolicon}} Loli]]-[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Pope]] Jaela Daran, Rood the Doorforged, [[http://montreuil.deviantart.com/art/Flash-and-quot-Friends-quot-149392540 Warforged Pimps]]...
* {{Moe}} - Jaela Daran in fan-art.
* MoralEventHorizon - Happened a lot during the Last War.
* PuritySue - Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people.... and busy plotting world domination.
* TheyJustDidntCare - The D&D MMORPG has a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...
** Also, the RTS, D&D Dragonshard.
* MagnificentBastard - With so many [[TheChessmaster Chessmasters]], there's more than a few of these out there.
* MemeticMolester - [[http://eberroncomic.blogspot.com/ Cardinal Krozen]]
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* {{Moe}} - Jaela Daran in fan-art.
* MoralEventHorizon - Happened a lot during the Last War.
* PuritySue - Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people.... and busy plotting world domination.
* TheyJustDidntCare - The D&D MMORPG has a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...
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* FandomRivalry - FandomRivalry: Eberron fans and Forgotten Realms fans.
*MagnificentBastard - MagnificentBastard: With so many [[TheChessmaster Chessmasters]], there's more than a few of these out there.
*MemeticMolester - MemeticMolester: [[http://eberroncomic.blogspot.com/ Cardinal Krozen]]
*MemeticMutation - MemeticMutation: [[{{Lolicon}} Loli]]-[[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Pope]] Jaela Daran, Rood the Doorforged, [[http://montreuil.deviantart.com/art/Flash-and-quot-Friends-quot-149392540 Warforged Pimps]]...
*{{Moe}} - {{Moe}}: Jaela Daran in fan-art.
*MoralEventHorizon - MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.
*PuritySue - PuritySue: Queen Aurala subverts this. She is beautiful, good and devoted to her people.... and busy plotting world domination.
*TheyJustDidntCare - The D&D MMORPG has TheyJustDidntCare: ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' and ''D&D: Dragonshard'' have a pretty tenuous connection to anything tabletop. Gameplay wise, this is usually done to better suit D&D to electronic formats. Story wise... well...
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The [[MechanicalLifeforms Warforged]].
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* CanonDiscontinuity: From 4e player's guide, the Orcs passed from being a druic/shamanistic neutral race ready to protect the world from nameless horrors and ocassional bounty hunters... [[StatusQuoIsGod into becoming the run of the Mill evil monsters from the last 30 years]]. {{Beat}}. Quite the let down.
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* CanonDiscontinuity: From 4e player's guide, the Orcs passed from being a druic/shamanistic neutral race ready to protect the world from nameless horrors and ocassional bounty hunters... [[StatusQuoIsGod into becoming the run of the Mill evil monsters from the last 30 years]]. {{Beat}}. Quite the let down.
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* PuritySue - Queen Aurala subverts this. She is a beautiful, good and devoted to her people. And busy plotting world domination.
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* PuritySue - Queen Aurala subverts this. She is a beautiful, good and devoted to her people. And people.... and busy plotting world domination.
