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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Some of the elements that originally helped make Eberron unique, like liberal use of {{Magitek}} and rejection of D&D's traditional AlwaysChaoticEvil approach to monsters, have ended up becoming a feature in a lot of other settings, to the point where younger fans might not realize how unusual (and as BrokenBase above shows, controversial) those ideas were when Eberron was first published.
* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgotten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon its initial release.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowCommon: Some of the elements that originally helped make Eberron unique, like liberal use of {{Magitek}} and rejection of D&D's traditional AlwaysChaoticEvil approach to monsters, have ended up becoming a feature in a lot of other settings, to the point where younger fans might not realize how unusual (and as BrokenBase above shows, controversial) those ideas were when Eberron was first published.
* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgotten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon its initial release.release.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The [[MechanicalLifeforms Warforged]].
** And the [[BeastMan Shifters]], especially [[CatGirl Razorclaws]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The [[MechanicalLifeforms Warforged]].
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Warforged]] and the [[BeastMan Shifters]], especially [[CatGirl Razorclaws]].
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Some of the elements that originally helped make Eberron unique, like liberal use of {{Magitek}} and rejection of D&D's traditional AlwaysChaoticEvil approach to monsters, have ended up becoming a feature in other settings like ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'', to the point where younger fans might not realize how unusual (and as BrokenBase above shows, controversial) those ideas were when Eberron was first published.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Some of the elements that originally helped make Eberron unique, like liberal use of {{Magitek}} and rejection of D&D's traditional AlwaysChaoticEvil approach to monsters, have ended up becoming a feature in a lot of other settings like ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'', settings, to the point where younger fans might not realize how unusual (and as BrokenBase above shows, controversial) those ideas were when Eberron was first published.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Some of the elements that originally helped make Eberron unique, like liberal use of {{Magitek}} and rejection of D&D's traditional AlwaysChaoticEvil approach to monsters, have ended up becoming a feature in other settings like ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'', to the point where younger fans might not realize how unusual (and as BrokenBase above shows, controversial) those ideas were when Eberron was first published.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once ruled the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist Unfortunate Implications.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: House Cannith: The world’s best war profiteers or a bunch of raving lunatic scientists doing what they do to just to push SCIENCE forward. (Since Cannith is split into three rival factions, it's quite possible for them to be both and more.)

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: House Cannith: The world’s best war profiteers or a bunch of raving lunatic scientists doing what they do to just to push SCIENCE forward. (Since Cannith is split into three rival factions, it's quite possible for them to be both and more.)
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once ruled the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist UnfortunateImplications.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once ruled the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist UnfortunateImplications.Unfortunate Implications.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once rules the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist UnfortunateImplications.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once rules ruled the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist UnfortunateImplications.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In 3.5, the ancient demons who once rules the world were called "rajahs." It was changed to "Overlords" for later editions. Considering that this is [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raja a real term still used in India,]] the writers probably decided to step away from any racist UnfortunateImplications.
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** According to the handbooks (and themselves), the Undying are animated by positive energies, unlike normal undead, who are animated by negative energies. An alternate read would be that this is just propaganda; Undying are in fact not any different from normal undead.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's leave it at at.]]

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's leave it at at.]]
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* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgotten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.

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* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgotten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's its initial release.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Lets leave it at at.]]
* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgtten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Lets Let's leave it at at.]]
* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgtten Forgotten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.
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* NightmareFuel: The Daelkyr are pretty horrifying to start with, being really powerful and completely alien creatures from [[EldritchLocation Xoriat]]. It's even worse when you consider that they look [[HumanoidAbomination almost exactly like humans]], the implications of which are unclear, but the most likely reason is they created humans (and possibly all humanoids.)

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* AccidentalInnuendo: [[http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/pgte_gallery/95017.jpg Look at the Skeleton Bra.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: With so many [[TheChessmaster Chessmasters]], there's more than a few of these out there.
* MemeticMolester: [[http://eberroncomic.blogspot.com/ Cardinal Krozen]]

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* MagnificentBastard: With so many [[TheChessmaster Chessmasters]], there's more than a few of these out there.
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%%* MemeticMolester: [[http://eberroncomic.blogspot.com/ Cardinal Krozen]]



* MoralEventHorizon: Happened a lot during the Last War.

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** A lot of fans, at least in modern circles, have taken King Boranel of Breland, a heroic adventurer-king and one of the few well-established ''BigGood/BigGoods'' of the setting, and turned him into a meme-parody of Teddy Roosevelt complete with "Borry Tigers" as a parody of Teddy Bears.

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** A lot of fans, at least in modern circles, have taken King Boranel of Breland, a heroic adventurer-king and one of the few well-established ''BigGood/BigGoods'' [[BigGood Big Goods]] of the setting, and turned him into a meme-parody of Teddy Roosevelt complete with "Borry Tigers" as a parody of Teddy Bears.
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** A lot of fans, at least in modern circles, have taken King Boranel of Breland, a heroic adventurer-king and one of the few well-established ''BigGood/BigGoods'' of the setting, and turned him into a meme-parody of Teddy Roosevelt complete with "Borry Tigers" as a parody of Teddy Bears.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgment Lets leave it at at.]]

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Lets leave it at at.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement Lets leave it at at.]]

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgment Lets leave it at at.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement Lets leave it at at.]]

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement Lets leave it at at.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House Jorasco is pretty obviously meant as commentary on the American healthcare system. [[RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement Lets leave it at at.]]
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* ItWasHisSled: King Kaius being a vampire is basically an OpenSecret among the fandom. ''Eberron: Rising From the Last War'' even had open speculation about his true nature where the players could read precisely because it was already so well-known.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: While many of the changes for 4e stuck nicely, introducing Tieflings, Dragonborn, and Eladrin into Eberron, fans generally agree that there is not now nor has there ever been a 14th Plane called Baator! As Wayfinders Guide didn't mention it, this may be headed towards CanonDiscontinuity.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: While many of the changes for 4e stuck nicely, introducing Tieflings, Dragonborn, and Eladrin into Eberron, fans generally agree that there is not now nor has there ever been a 14th Plane called Baator! As Wayfinders Guide didn't Upgraded to CanonDiscontinuity as of 5e, as ''Eberron: Rising From the Last War'' doesn't mention it, this may be headed towards CanonDiscontinuity.it at all.
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* CompleteMonster: "The Chimes of Midnight", "Quoth the Raven", "Hell's Heart": [[FallenHero Genius Inquisitive Viktor/Victor Saint-Demain]] has his [[ItsAllAboutMe massive ego]] bruised by Baron D'Medani and plots a gruesome revenge, recruiting {{serial killer}}s to commit murder all over Sharn with intention of wiping out the Baron, his House and to drop D'Medani's beloved daughter Zelina to her death. Foiled and placed in a sanitarium, Viktor [[ManipulativeBastard manipulates]] a troubled man into becoming a serial killer who kidnaps and tortures his victims to death, with the intent of sending the heroes to die against him after creating a large body count. Locked away in the asylum of Hell's Heart, Viktor uses his manipulative brilliance to take over, allowing the insane doctor in charge to torture other inmates, before recruiting more serial killers. Having the D'Medanis captured, Viktor tries to have them killed, intending on framing the heroes for [[WaterSourceTampering poisoning Sharn's water supply]] to kill thousands upon thousands of innocents, releasing his killers on the population and "clearing" his name to take advantage of the horrible chaos.
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* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting, ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.

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* VindicatedByHistory: While ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting, Setting (thanks to Wizard's contract with Ed Greenwood requiring at least one new Forgtten Realms book each year), ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.
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Fix the formatting on some of the setting titles


* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}. [[TabletopGame/Jakandor]] could also be seen as a proto-Eberron, with two morally grey factions that the Party could be members of, rather than the dozens of organizations, houses, nations, and religions vying for control of Khorvaire.
* VindicatedByHistory: While [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms]] remains the most popular D&D Setting, [[TabletopGame/Ravenloft]] is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: There's plenty of new material in Eberron, but some ideas like Elemental Airships were already used in {{TabletopGame/Mystara}}. [[TabletopGame/Jakandor]] ''TabletopGame/{{Jakandor}}'' could also be seen as a proto-Eberron, with two morally grey factions that the Party could be members of, rather than the dozens of organizations, houses, nations, and religions vying for control of Khorvaire.
* VindicatedByHistory: While [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms]] ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' remains the most popular D&D Setting, [[TabletopGame/Ravenloft]] ''TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}}'' is really the only other contender for the #2 slot. Beyond that, Keith Baker indicated that adapting Eberron to 5e was extremely easy because in the past decade D&D as a whole has drifted strongly toward the DungeonPunk feel of Eberron, and now assumes Settings in which magic has mundane utility as the default, something for which Eberron was heavily criticized for upon it's initial release.

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