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* UncannyValley: Not as much as the old series, but the new Mondas Cybermen's faces are more smoothed out and a bit closer to a human's face than the Cybus Cybermen.

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* UncannyValley: Not as much as the old series, but the new Mondas Cybermen's faces are more smoothed out and a bit closer to a human's face than the Cybus Cybermen.Cybermen.
* VindicatedByHistory: When this episode first debuted in 2013, [[SeasonalRot like most of Series 7,]] it wasn't very well received as many reviewers found it to be a ContestedSequel to Creator/Neil Gaiman's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E4TheDoctor'sWife previous episode]]" and especially bogged down by [[TheScrappy: Angie and Artie]]. Years later, this episode has become a favorite of 11th Doctor fan's due to Creator/Matt Smith's wide display of acting talent throughout the episode and for being one last carefree, nonsensical adventure with the 11th Doctor before things get serious.

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* {{HSQ}}: The sight of the new Cybermen, especially when they show off their BulletTime abilities.
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** The Cybermen have never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect.

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* {{HSQ}}: The sight of the new Cybermen, especially when they show off their BulletTime abilities.
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** The Cybermen
abilities. They have never been less scary. The superfast running is such seriously took a bad effect.level in badass.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Smith as Mister Clever serves as this considering two years later in ''TerminatorGenisys'', Smith would play an avatar of Skynet in charge of an army of killer cyborgs ''and'' TheAssimilator to boot.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Smith as Mister Clever serves as this considering two years later in ''TerminatorGenisys'', ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'', Smith would play an avatar of Skynet in charge of an army of killer cyborgs ''and'' TheAssimilator to boot.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Smith as Mister Clever serves as this considering two years later in ''TerminatorGenisys'', [[spoiler:Smith would play an avatar of Skynet in charge of an army of killer cyborgs ''and'' TheAssimilator to boot]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Smith as Mister Clever serves as this considering two years later in ''TerminatorGenisys'', [[spoiler:Smith Smith would play an avatar of Skynet in charge of an army of killer cyborgs ''and'' TheAssimilator to boot]].boot.

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** The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp.
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that. Then again, it seems he's only doing it to distract the Cyberman while Clara prepares to shoot it with the BFG.
* NarmCharm: The entire episode takes place in a derelict amusement park. Much of the camp is intentional.
** Their making their LastStand in a "comical" castle.

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** The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
effect.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp.
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that. Then again, it seems he's only doing it to distract the Cyberman while Clara prepares to shoot it with the BFG.
* NarmCharm: NarmCharm:
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The entire episode takes place in a derelict amusement park. Much of the camp is intentional.
** Their The heroes making their LastStand in a "comical" castle.



* TheScrappy: Reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.

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* TheScrappy: Reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.negative.

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* {{Narm}}: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible NarmCharm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that. Then again, it seems he's only doing it to distract the Cyberman while Clara prepares to shoot it with the BFG.
** Mind, the entire episode takes place in a derelict amusement park. Much of the camp is probably intentional.
* TheScrappy: Let's just say reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
**
The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible NarmCharm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.\n
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that. Then again, it seems he's only doing it to distract the Cyberman while Clara prepares to shoot it with the BFG.
** Mind, the *NarmCharm: The entire episode takes place in a derelict amusement park. park. Much of the camp is probably intentional.
**Their making their LastStand in a "comical" castle.
**Mr.Clever's EvilIsHammy makes a terrifically engaging dialogue with The Doctor.
* TheScrappy: Let's just say reception Reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Matt Smith as Mister Clever serves as this considering two years later in ''TerminatorGenisys'', [[spoiler:Smith would play an avatar of Skynet in charge of an army of killer cyborgs ''and'' TheAssimilator to boot]].

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** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that.

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** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that. Then again, it seems he's only doing it to distract the Cyberman while Clara prepares to shoot it with the BFG.
** Mind, the entire episode takes place in a derelict amusement park. Much of the camp is probably intentional.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Porridge. The Emperor of the Universe played by Creator/WarwickDavis
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* HeReallyCanAct: Matt Smith as Mr. Clever.
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* {{HSQ}}: The sight of the new Cybermen, especially when they show off their BulletTime abilities.
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* HeReallyCanAct: Matt Smith as Mr. Clever.
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* UncannyValley: Not as much as the old series, but the new Mondas Cybermen's faces are more smoothed out and a but closer to a human's face than the Cybus Cybermen.

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* UncannyValley: Not as much as the old series, but the new Mondas Cybermen's faces are more smoothed out and a but bit closer to a human's face than the Cybus Cybermen.
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** Well they ''were'' annoying.

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** Well they ''were'' annoying.* UncannyValley: Not as much as the old series, but the new Mondas Cybermen's faces are more smoothed out and a but closer to a human's face than the Cybus Cybermen.
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** Well they ''were'' annoying.
* WhatTheHellHero/ DesignatedHero
** The Doctor is very unsympathetic in this episode, all his decisions are idiotic, and people die because of them. The episode would have been a lot shorter if the Doctor had either refused to take the kids with him, or left them in the TARDIS. Or you know, hadn't let himself be taken over by the cyber-planner. An especially silly scene has the Doctor state that he can destroy the cyberplanner through regenerating... and then just ... choose not to. The Doctor and the Cyber-planner decide they are at a stalemate, but they clearly aren't. The Doctor can destroy the cyber-planner with relatively little cost to himself, yes, he'd burn through another body but it's not like he's never done that before. The Doctor, as a supposedly genius chess player, should know he's not in stalemate, he has the upper hand throughout the episode, but chooses not to use it. Every human death is basically on his head because he doesn't utilize his advantage. It's particularly out of character, because the Doctor has sacrificed himself several times before in order to save one person (Caves Of The Androzani, Bad Wolf and End Of Time spring to mind) but refuses to do the same to save the kids, the soldiers, and Clara, preferring to endanger them instead of using his clear checkmate opportunity. Basically, the Doc effectively causes most of the deaths in this episode.
** Not to mention he takes them to an ''abandoned'' [[AmusementParkOfDoom amusement park]] in the first place.
** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort.
** Indeed. The point that he HAS used regeneration as a means to an end to save an individual before shows that he should be prepared to use it to save a multitude of people. It's not taking regeneration lightly at all, he'd be saving thousands of people. Also, if Neil Gaiman hadn't wanted us to consider this an option, the Doctor shouldn't have mentioned in the dialogue.
** Like I wrote, if the Doctor regenerated he would be weakened and there would still be Cybermen on the world. Also the Doctor might have hoped his connection to the Cyberplanner would enable him to defeat the Cybermen, so didn't regenerate yet.

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** Well they ''were'' annoying.
* WhatTheHellHero/ DesignatedHero
** The Doctor is very unsympathetic in this episode, all his decisions are idiotic, and people die because of them. The episode would have been a lot shorter if the Doctor had either refused to take the kids with him, or left them in the TARDIS. Or you know, hadn't let himself be taken over by the cyber-planner. An especially silly scene has the Doctor state that he can destroy the cyberplanner through regenerating... and then just ... choose not to. The Doctor and the Cyber-planner decide they are at a stalemate, but they clearly aren't. The Doctor can destroy the cyber-planner with relatively little cost to himself, yes, he'd burn through another body but it's not like he's never done that before. The Doctor, as a supposedly genius chess player, should know he's not in stalemate, he has the upper hand throughout the episode, but chooses not to use it. Every human death is basically on his head because he doesn't utilize his advantage. It's particularly out of character, because the Doctor has sacrificed himself several times before in order to save one person (Caves Of The Androzani, Bad Wolf and End Of Time spring to mind) but refuses to do the same to save the kids, the soldiers, and Clara, preferring to endanger them instead of using his clear checkmate opportunity. Basically, the Doc effectively causes most of the deaths in this episode.
** Not to mention he takes them to an ''abandoned'' [[AmusementParkOfDoom amusement park]] in the first place.
** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort.
** Indeed. The point that he HAS used regeneration as a means to an end to save an individual before shows that he should be prepared to use it to save a multitude of people. It's not taking regeneration lightly at all, he'd be saving thousands of people. Also, if Neil Gaiman hadn't wanted us to consider this an option, the Doctor shouldn't have mentioned in the dialogue.
** Like I wrote, if the Doctor regenerated he would be weakened and there would still be Cybermen on the world. Also the Doctor might have hoped his connection to the Cyberplanner would enable him to defeat the Cybermen, so didn't regenerate yet.
annoying.
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*** Definitely NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.
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** Indeed. The point that he HAS used regeneration as a means to an end to save an individual before shows that he should be prepared to use it to save a multitude of people. It's not taking regeneration lightly at all, he'd be saving thousands of people. Also, if Neil Gaiman hadn't wanted us to consider this an option, the Doctor shouldn't have mentioned in the dialogue.

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** Indeed. The point that he HAS used regeneration as a means to an end to save an individual before shows that he should be prepared to use it to save a multitude of people. It's not taking regeneration lightly at all, he'd be saving thousands of people. Also, if Neil Gaiman hadn't wanted us to consider this an option, the Doctor shouldn't have mentioned in the dialogue.dialogue.
** Like I wrote, if the Doctor regenerated he would be weakened and there would still be Cybermen on the world. Also the Doctor might have hoped his connection to the Cyberplanner would enable him to defeat the Cybermen, so didn't regenerate yet.
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** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort.

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** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort.resort.
** Indeed. The point that he HAS used regeneration as a means to an end to save an individual before shows that he should be prepared to use it to save a multitude of people. It's not taking regeneration lightly at all, he'd be saving thousands of people. Also, if Neil Gaiman hadn't wanted us to consider this an option, the Doctor shouldn't have mentioned in the dialogue.

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* {{Narm}}: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible NarmCharm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.
*** Definitely NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that.



*** Clara possibly also counts.

* {{Narm}}: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible NarmCharm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.
*** Definitely NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.
** The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that.
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** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort. Also the Chess Game might have been meant as a delaying tactic while the Doctor thought of a plan.

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** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort. Also the Chess Game might have been meant as a delaying tactic while the Doctor thought of a plan.
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** The Doctor was probably aiming for when the amusement park was good, but the TARDIS decided to take him to a place where he could stop the Cybermen. The Cybermen could have already been ready to go and given a bit more time could have made a Cyber-Planner, the Doctor made their awakening a lot less worse then it could have been. Also regeneration isn't a process to be taken lightly, and if the Doctor regenerates he probably won't be in a great state to fight Cybermen. It is a last resort. Also the Chess Game might have been meant as a delaying tactic while the Doctor thought of a plan.
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\n** Not to mention he takes them to an ''abandoned'' [[AmusementParkOfDoom amusement park]] in the first place.
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* WhatTheHellHero?/ DesignatedHero

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* WhatTheHellHero?/ WhatTheHellHero/ DesignatedHero
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*** Definately NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.

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*** Definately Definitely NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.
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*WhatTheHellHero?/ DesignatedHero
** The Doctor is very unsympathetic in this episode, all his decisions are idiotic, and people die because of them. The episode would have been a lot shorter if the Doctor had either refused to take the kids with him, or left them in the TARDIS. Or you know, hadn't let himself be taken over by the cyber-planner. An especially silly scene has the Doctor state that he can destroy the cyberplanner through regenerating... and then just ... choose not to. The Doctor and the Cyber-planner decide they are at a stalemate, but they clearly aren't. The Doctor can destroy the cyber-planner with relatively little cost to himself, yes, he'd burn through another body but it's not like he's never done that before. The Doctor, as a supposedly genius chess player, should know he's not in stalemate, he has the upper hand throughout the episode, but chooses not to use it. Every human death is basically on his head because he doesn't utilize his advantage. It's particularly out of character, because the Doctor has sacrificed himself several times before in order to save one person (Caves Of The Androzani, Bad Wolf and End Of Time spring to mind) but refuses to do the same to save the kids, the soldiers, and Clara, preferring to endanger them instead of using his clear checkmate opportunity. Basically, the Doc effectively causes most of the deaths in this episode.

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* Narm: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible Narm Charm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.

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* Narm: {{Narm}}: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
** The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible Narm Charm NarmCharm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.
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*** Definately NarmCharm for this troper. His performance was borderline '''{{Brian Blessed}}''' at one point.
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** Well they ''were'' annoying.

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** Well they ''were'' annoying.annoying.
*** Clara possibly also counts.

*Narm: The Cybermen have probably never been less scary. The superfast running is such a bad effect, it really reduces their fear factor.
**The Doctor as "Mr. Clever" is probably supposed to be menacing, but Matt Smith's performance, and the writing of the character, just make him seem... aggressively camp. Possible Narm Charm candidate if you happen to be a Smith fan, but certainly difficult to take seriously.
**The chubby soldier who shouts down the cyberman with his whole "I've heard of the Cybermen since I was in my crib" speech. Probably intended to be a rousing moment, but made very funny by the fact that we have NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. It's his first line in the episode, and he doesn't really become a significant part of the episode after that.
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* TheScrappy: Let's just say reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.

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* TheScrappy: Let's just say reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.positive.
** Well they ''were'' annoying.
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* TheScrappy: Let's just say reception to Artie and particularly Angie has not been positive.

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