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* CompleteMonster: Phoenix acts funny and nice at times. Too bad he's a sadistic mass murderer. Many criminals do what they do for easy money, but Phoenix does it [[ForTheEvulz for pleasure in murdering people]]. He's more or less a Hip-Hop Joker.

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* CompleteMonster: Phoenix acts funny and nice at times. Too bad he's a sadistic mass murderer. In the movie's opening he takes 20 people hostage, who die as a consequence of a misjudging of the cop John Spartan - [[spoiler: which is later revealed to be Phoenix's calculation to trick Spartan into taking a part of the responsibility. They were all dead before Spartan arrived. The body count of those hostages was actually 30 as Phoenix planned it for his perverse amusement]]. In 2032, he indulges in his freedom to be a maniac and spread chaos again, setting free a dozen of the worst criminals of the 20th century, one of them ''Jeffrey Dahmer''. Many criminals do what they do for easy money, but Phoenix does it [[ForTheEvulz for pleasure in murdering people]]. He's more or less a Hip-Hop Joker.killing people]].
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Cocteau is killed before Spartan gets to confront him over being behind Phoenix's escape.

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* TastesLikeDiabetes: The year 2032 before Phoenix shows up that is.



** The SNES/Genesis/SegaCD version is NintendoHard with a few instances of FakeDifficulty but is actually quite good once you get past that.
** The 1994 {{pinball}} game is well-received by pinball enthusiasts and it even has a home rom set with full sewering.

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** The SNES/Genesis/SegaCD SNES[=/=]Genesis[=/=]SegaCD version is NintendoHard with a few instances of FakeDifficulty but is [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames actually quite good good]] once you get past that.
** The 1994 {{pinball}} game is well-received [[NoProblemWithLicensedGames well-received]] by pinball enthusiasts and it even has a home rom set with full sewering.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Free will and freedom of choice are necessary for society.
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* OneSceneWonder: [[DenisLeary The Edgar Friendly speech]]. regarded by most as the best part of the movie.

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* OneSceneWonder: [[DenisLeary The Edgar Friendly speech]]. speech]], regarded by most as the best part of the movie.
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* OneSceneWonder: [[DenisLeary The Edgar Friendly speech]]. regarded by most as the best part of the movie.
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** Stallone played a maverick cop set in a uber liberal world with many many laws. A place JudgeDredd might feel right at home in, who Stallone would play two years later.
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** The most powerful man in a modern city hires the most AxCrazy/psychotic criminal around to take down their most powerful enemy, [[EvilerThanThou only for them to turn against him]], killing him and disposing of his body in a fire. The criminal then calls upon all other criminals to wreak utter havoc upon the city. [[Film/TheDarkKnight Didn't they do this a few years ago?]]

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** The plot: the most powerful man in a modern city hires the most AxCrazy/psychotic criminal around to take down their most powerful enemy, [[EvilerThanThou only for them to turn against him]], killing him and disposing of his body in a fire. The criminal then calls upon all other criminals to wreak utter havoc upon the city. [[Film/TheDarkKnight Didn't they do this a few years ago?]]
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** The most powerful man in a modern city hires the most AxCrazy/psychotic criminal around to take down their most powerful enemy, [[EvilerThanThou only for them to turn against him]], killing him and disposing of his body in a fire. The criminal then calls upon all other criminals to wreak utter havoc upon the city. [[Film/TheDarkKnight Didn't they do this a few years ago?]]
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** Spartan crashes the 1970 442 through the floor of an Oldsmobile dealership in 2032, Oldsmobile was discontinued by GM in 2004.

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** While it's more Makeup Failure, but [[IncrediblyLamePun keep an eye]] on Phoenix's Heterochromia. Several times in the film his blue and brown eye noticeably switch sides between shots.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 3DO game is definitely an example, judging by [[TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One's]] [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/09/01/demolition-man-review/ review]].

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 3DO game is definitely an example, judging by [[TheSpoonyExperiment [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One's]] [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/09/01/demolition-man-review/ review]].
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The 3DO game is definitely an example, judging by [[TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One's]] [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/09/01/demolition-man-review/ review]].
** The SNES/Genesis/SegaCD version is NintendoHard with a few instances of FakeDifficulty but is actually quite good once you get past that.
** The 1994 {{pinball}} game is well-received by pinball enthusiasts and it even has a home rom set with full sewering.
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** Gamers may find it difficult to hear the name John Spartan without thinking of [[{{Halo}} John]] the [[SuperSoldier SPARTAN-II]].
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They\'re generally geared not to, yeah.


*** And [[LogicBomb commercial jingles wouldn't]]?

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* EarWorm: Apparently in the future, the only music that exists are commercial jingles.

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* EarWorm: Apparently in the future, the only music that exists are commercial jingles. Apparently, Armor Hot Dogs is the most popular.


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*** And [[LogicBomb commercial jingles wouldn't]]?


* CharacterAlignment: Numerous different ones
** ChaoticEvil: Phoenix
** LawfulEvil: Dr. Cocteau
** ChaoticGood: Edgar Friendly. Whether John Spartan is this or NeutralGood is debatable.
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* CharacterAlignment: Numerous different ones
** ChaoticEvil: Phoenix
** LawfulEvil: Dr. Cocteau
** ChaoticGood: Edgar Friendly. Whether John Spartan is this or NeutralGood is debatable.

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** One of Phoenix's charges is tax evasion (it shows up when they bring up all his charges). Snipes was later convicted of, you guessed it, tax evasion!



** Arnold Schwarzenegger is briefly mentioned as a former President, with Huxley explaining that his popularity forced an amendment to the Constitution to allow him to run. Today, Schwarzenegger is a former governor of California, and there is a serious and fairly popular movement to amend the Constitution to allow him to run for President.



* HilariousInHindsight: "President Schwarzenegger," anyone?
** Plus, one Scott Peterson is apparently due for a parole hearing.

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* HilariousInHindsight: "President Schwarzenegger," anyone?
** Plus, one Scott Peterson
Arnold Schwarzenegger is apparently due briefly mentioned as a former President, with Huxley explaining that his popularity forced an amendment to the Constitution to allow him to run. Today, Schwarzenegger is a former governor of California, and there is a serious and fairly popular movement to amend the Constitution to allow him to run for a parole hearing.President.


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** One of Phoenix's charges is tax evasion (it shows up when they bring up all his charges). Snipes was later convicted of, you guessed it, tax evasion!
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Missed Moment Of Awesome (now Offscreen Moment Of Awesome) is not \"they SHOULD have done it, it\'d be cool.\" It\'s \"they DID do it, and you never got to see it.\"


* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Admit it, you would have loved to see knitting become a ChekhovsSkill.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The naked woman who pops up on John Spartan's video screen in his apartment. He's just as confused, too. The novelization indicates the purpose of the scene is to demonstrate to him that video-calling is the norm in the future.
**At least the surface dwellers of San Angeles isn't entirely squeaky clean.
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* AccidentalInnuendo - Huxley often mangles 20th century sayings into... something else.
-->"You really licked his ass."
-->"Let's blow this guy!"


* CharacterAlignment: Arguably, the five main characters of the film (Spartan, Huxley, Friendly, Phoenix and Cocteau) represent the four corners of the D&D alignment grid, and the absolute center.
** John Spartan is ChaoticGood, doing whatever's necessary to get the job done, and getting a reputation of being reckless and destructive as a result.
** Lenina Huxley is [[YourMileageMayVary arguably]] LawfulGood, wanting to follow standard police procedure, even if she's dying for something to actually ''happen'' from time to time. [[spoiler: Hanging around Spartan as long as she does, by the end she's probably closer to Neutral or Chaotic.]]
*** Her boss is a better example of LawfulGood, as he wants to protect people, wants to enforce the law, and is extremely annoyed at anything that disrupts the order of his city.
** Edgar Friendly is TrueNeutral; he's about freedom of choice, and is doing what he can merely to survive in a world he considers too uptight.
*** Closer to ChaoticNeutral, considering his "I wanna run naked through the streets smeared in green jello. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to!" speech.
** Phoenix is absolutely ChaoticEvil; he just wants to watch the world burn.
** And Cocteau is LawfulEvil; he wants to create the perfect society, but one that tramples all over personal freedoms. He specifically speaks adoringly of the city having "the purity of an ant colony".
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* AccidentalInnuendo - Huxley often mangles 20th century sayings into... something else.
-->"You really licked his ass."
-->"Let's blow this guy!"


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* CompleteMonster: Phoenix acts funny and nice at times. Too bad he's a sadistic mass murderer. Many criminals do what they do for easy money, but Phoenix does it [[ForTheEvulz for pleasure in murdering people]]. He's more or less a Hip-Hop Joker.
* EarWorm: Apparently in the future, the only music that exists are commercial jingles.
** This is likely because [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad real music might offend someone, or stir up emotions that are taboo in the new society]].


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* HamAndCheese: Wesley Snipes gleefully chewing the scenery as Simon Phoenix.
* HilariousInHindsight: "President Schwarzenegger," anyone?
** Plus, one Scott Peterson is apparently due for a parole hearing.
** When Spartan steals the Oldmobile 442, the elevator crashes up into an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile#2000s Oldsmobile Dealership.]]
** Spartan is horrified when he learns that they've banned table salt. [[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30352252/ Guess what New York state is trying to ban?]]
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Admit it, you would have loved to see knitting become a CheckovsSkill.

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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Admit it, you would have loved to see knitting become a CheckovsSkill.ChekhovsSkill.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Admit it, you would have loved to see knitting become a ChekovsSkill.

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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: Admit it, you would have loved to see knitting become a ChekovsSkill.

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** John Spartan is ChaoticGood, doing whatever's necessary to get the job done, and getting a reputation of being reckless as a result.

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** John Spartan is ChaoticGood, doing whatever's necessary to get the job done, and getting a reputation of being reckless and destructive as a result.


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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: After Jeffrey Dahmer's murder in prison, Phoenix's "Jeffrey Dahmer? I ''LOVE'' that guy!" line was cut from a number of broadcasts.
** One of Phoenix's charges is tax evasion (it shows up when they bring up all his charges). Snipes was later convicted of, you guessed it, tax evasion!
** The name "Scott Peterson" comes up during Huxley's access of the parole hearings. [[MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome Guess what happens in 2003?]]
** Arnold Schwarzenegger is briefly mentioned as a former President, with Huxley explaining that his popularity forced an amendment to the Constitution to allow him to run. Today, Schwarzenegger is a former governor of California, and there is a serious and fairly popular movement to amend the Constitution to allow him to run for President.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Don't know how the video games are received, but the 1994 {{pinball}} game is well-received by pinball enthusiasts and it even has a home rom set with full sewering.
** The 3DO game is definitely an example, judging by [[TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One's]] [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/09/01/demolition-man-review/ review]].
** The SNES/Genesis/SegaCD version is NintendoHard with a few instances of FakeDifficulty but is actually quite good once you get past that.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Don't know how the video games are received, but the 1994 {{pinball}} game is well-received by pinball enthusiasts and it even has a home rom set with full sewering.
** The 3DO game is definitely an example, judging by [[TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One's]] [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2008/09/01/demolition-man-review/ review]].
** The SNES/Genesis/SegaCD version is NintendoHard with a few instances of FakeDifficulty but is actually quite good once you get past that.

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