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* QuestionableCasting: Creator/JohnnyDepp as the Invisible Man. While they were clearly going for an AllStarCast for this universe, casting an A-list actor as a historically ''permanently invisible'' character seems like an exercise in futility, since he would not be seen or (more likely) the movie would just endeavour to make [[MarqueeAlterEgo Depp visible on screen as much as possible]].

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* QuestionableCasting: Creator/JohnnyDepp as the Invisible Man. While they were clearly going for an AllStarCast for this universe, casting an A-list actor as a historically ''permanently invisible'' character seems like an exercise in futility, since he would not be seen or (more likely) the movie would just endeavour go out of its way to find excuses to make [[MarqueeAlterEgo Depp visible on screen as much as possible]].
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* QuestionableCasting: Creator/JohnnyDepp as the Invisible Man. While they were clearly going for an AllStarCast for this universe, casting an A-list actor as a historically ''permanently invisible'' character seems like an exercise in futility, since he would not be seen or (more likely) the movie would just endeavour to make [[MarqueeAlterEgo Depp visible on screen as much as possible]].
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These would only count if the Dark Universe had a fandom (never mind a franchise)...


* FandomRivalry:
** Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' arose after Universal's reaction to the use of Franchise/KingKong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work".
** There is also a distinct rivalry so far with the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, with plenty of people in that community finding the Dark Universe to be a lackluster FollowTheLeader example.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: To the classic Franchise/UniversalHorror films, [[UrExample the earliest example]] of a SharedUniverse in cinema. The classic Universal Horror monsters were loosely connected through crossover films. Following ''The Mummy'' there has been some consideration as to whether the franchise would have needed to follow the modern "cinematic universe" model [[TropeCodifier as codified by]] the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse or blend closer to the original as it goes on. However while the setting over this door is closed, its replacements might very well still make the shift themselves.
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** Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' after Universal's reaction to the use of Franchise/KingKong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work".

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** Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' arose after Universal's reaction to the use of Franchise/KingKong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work".



* MemeticMutation: [[https://twitter.com/darkuniverse/status/866706548923314176 Witness the beginning of a Dark Universe]].[[note]]that being one of the two posts on twitter advertising it before it was dropped without a word until it was made official two years later, it’s prime for mocking corporations’ constant attempts to be the next MCU without being willing to make a good film first.[[/note]]

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* MemeticMutation: [[https://twitter.com/darkuniverse/status/866706548923314176 Witness "Witness the beginning of a Dark Universe]].[[note]]that Universe"]].[[note]]That being one of the two posts on twitter Twitter advertising it before it was dropped without a word until it its cancellation was made official two years later, it’s prime for mocking corporations’ constant attempts to be the next MCU without being willing to make a good film first.[[/note]]
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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there were some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.

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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there were some The signs of this already. Namely were immediate with [[Film/TheMummy2017 its first installment]], and this ultimately led to [[StillbornFranchise the whole concept dying a quick death]]. Many important questions were unanswered by its creative teams, namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed tried to try appealing appeal to both sides, both, and it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans either -- fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCm2PX5Iz00 announcement trailer]] for the franchise features a new song written as a {{Leitmotif}} for it by Creator/DannyElfman. It sounds about as darkly epic as you'd expect.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCm2PX5Iz00 announcement trailer]] for the franchise features a new song written as a {{Leitmotif}} for it by Creator/DannyElfman.Music/DannyElfman. It sounds about as darkly epic as you'd expect.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The announcement trailer for the franchise features a new song written as a {{Leitmotif}} for it by Creator/DannyElfman. It sounds about as darkly epic as you'd expect.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCm2PX5Iz00 announcement trailer trailer]] for the franchise features a new song written as a {{Leitmotif}} for it by Creator/DannyElfman. It sounds about as darkly epic as you'd expect.
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* MemeticMutation: [[https://twitter.com/darkuniverse/status/866706548923314176 Witness the beginning of a Dark Universe]].[[note]]that being one of the two posts on twitter advertising it before it was dropped without a word until it was made official two years later, it’s prime for mocking corporations’ constant attempts to be the next MCU without being willing to make a good film first.[[/note]]
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* OneEpisodeWonder: The series only had one movie. If ''Dracula: Untold'' hadn't been excised from its canon, it would've had two.
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* OneEpisodeWonder: The series only had one movie. If ''Dracula: Untold'' hadn't been excised from its canon, it would've had two.

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* SnarkBait:
** The decision to [[TemptingFate include a Dark Universe logo in front of]] ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' -- before the movie had even established its cinematic universe, or attracted enough interest in said universe to warrant naming an entire brand -- was mocked by audiences and critics for being a blatant case of putting the cart before the horse. Some audiences for that film reportedly laughed derisively when the logo was unveiled before the movie started, viewing it as a pretty blatant case of FollowTheLeader for the "Cinematic Universe" trend. The fact that the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb was only marginally profitable]] didn't help matters.
** It got even worse when it was revealed that Creator/JavierBardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.
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** Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' after Universal's reaction to the use of King Kong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work".

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** Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' after Universal's reaction to the use of King Kong, Franchise/KingKong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work".



** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem Creator/JavierBardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.
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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there ewre some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.

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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there ewre were some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.
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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.

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* UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there are ewre some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.
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** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''Photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''Photoshopped'' ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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* UncertainAudience:
** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters.
** It gets worse for the project - The main architects of the Dark Universe [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alex-kurtzman-chris-morgan-exit-universal-monsterverse-1055854 have bailed on the project as of November 2017]]. The Dark Universe may be basically rebooted or outright ended before it has a chance to get going. Though considering ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' is considered by many to be a dreadful film and a poor foundation for a cinematic universe and exits two non-horror names off the properties, some aren't exactly considering this a bad thing.

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* UncertainAudience:
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UncertainAudience: One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. \n** It gets worse for the project - The main architects of the Dark Universe [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alex-kurtzman-chris-morgan-exit-universal-monsterverse-1055854 have bailed on the project as of November 2017]]. The Dark Universe may be basically rebooted or outright ended before it has a chance to get going. Though considering ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' is considered by many to be a dreadful film and a poor foundation for a cinematic universe and exits two non-horror names off the properties, some aren't exactly considering this a bad thing.
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** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.

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** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.
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** It gets worse for the project - [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alex-kurtzman-chris-morgan-exit-universal-monsterverse-1055854 The main architects of the Dark Universe have bailed on the project as of November 2017.]] The Dark Universe may be basically rebooted or outright ended before it has a chance to get going. Though considering ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' is considered by many to be a dreadful film and a poor foundation for a cinematic universe and exits two non-horror names off the properties, some aren't exactly considering this a bad thing.

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** It gets worse for the project - The main architects of the Dark Universe [[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alex-kurtzman-chris-morgan-exit-universal-monsterverse-1055854 The main architects of the Dark Universe have bailed on the project as of November 2017.]] 2017]]. The Dark Universe may be basically rebooted or outright ended before it has a chance to get going. Though considering ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' is considered by many to be a dreadful film and a poor foundation for a cinematic universe and exits two non-horror names off the properties, some aren't exactly considering this a bad thing.
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** The decision to include a Dark Universe logo in front of ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' -- before the movie had even established its cinematic universe, or attracted enough interest in said universe to warrant naming an entire brand -- was mocked by audiences and reviewers for putting the cart before the horse. Some audiences for that film reportedly laughed derisively when the logo was unveiled before the movie started, viewing it as a pretty blatant case of FollowTheLeader for the "Cinematic Universe" trend. The fact that the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb was only marginally profitable]] didn't help matters.
** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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** The decision to [[TemptingFate include a Dark Universe logo in front of of]] ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' -- before the movie had even established its cinematic universe, or attracted enough interest in said universe to warrant naming an entire brand -- was mocked by audiences and reviewers critics for being a blatant case of putting the cart before the horse. Some audiences for that film reportedly laughed derisively when the logo was unveiled before the movie started, viewing it as a pretty blatant case of FollowTheLeader for the "Cinematic Universe" trend. The fact that the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb was only marginally profitable]] didn't help matters.
** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' being revealed as ''photoshopped'' ''Photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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* FandomRivalry: Some friction between this universe and the ''Film/MonsterVerse'' after Universal's reaction to the use of King Kong, with a representative even saying "shared monster universes don't work". There is also a distinct rivalry so far with the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, with plenty of people in that community finding the ''Dark Universe'' to be a lackluster FollowTheLeader example.

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** The decision to include a ''Dark Universe'' logo in front of ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' -- before the movie had even established its cinematic universe, or attracted enough interest in said universe to warrant naming an entire brand -- was mocked for putting the cart before the horse. Some audiences for that film reportedly laughed derisively when the logo was unveiled before the movie started, viewing it as a pretty blatant case of FollowTheLeader for the "Cinematic Universe" trend. The fact that the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb was only marginally profitable]] didn't help matters.
** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. The (photoshopped) "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' is now a big shorthand for studio hubris.

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** The decision to include a ''Dark Universe'' Dark Universe logo in front of ''Film/{{The Mummy|2017}}'' -- before the movie had even established its cinematic universe, or attracted enough interest in said universe to warrant naming an entire brand -- was mocked by audiences and reviewers for putting the cart before the horse. Some audiences for that film reportedly laughed derisively when the logo was unveiled before the movie started, viewing it as a pretty blatant case of FollowTheLeader for the "Cinematic Universe" trend. The fact that the movie [[BoxOfficeBomb was only marginally profitable]] didn't help matters.
** It got even worse when it was revealed that Javier Bardem was ''never'' actually officially signed up to play Frankenstein's Monster, and all of Universal's bragging about the whole franchise they were going to create started looking just that more arrogant. The (photoshopped) Additionally, the "cast photo" of Dark Universe actors released prior to ''The Mummy'' is being revealed as ''photoshopped'' led to it being now considered a big shorthand for studio hubris.



** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original ''Franchise/UniversalHorror'' brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.

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** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''), Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original ''Franchise/UniversalHorror'' Franchise/UniversalHorror brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.
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** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the ''Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse''), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original ''Franchise/UniversalHorror'' brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.

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** One movie in, and there are some signs of this already. Namely whether the franchise should be playing it closer to the modern SharedUniverse model to attract those audiences (such as fans of the ''Film/MarvelCinematicUniverse''), ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse''), or whether it should veer more to the style that defined the original ''Franchise/UniversalHorror'' brand, as well as most of the horror genre. Although ''The Mummy'' seemed to try appealing to both sides, it didn't really hit it off with either. Fans of the classic horror movies were turned off by how the movie spends most of its runtime on Creator/TomCruise's character instead of the titular monster while mainstream audiences weren't won over by the film's connection to rather obscure horror monsters. Perhaps because of this, the second movie has been pushed back to allow time to rework the script.

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