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* DeathOfTheAuthor: Some fans prefer to ignore WordOfGod saying that [[spoiler:Lennier and Lyta]] would have been revealed to have died in the Telepath War if the show continued, noting it is never said onscreen in any media, and it wouldn’t be unprecedented for [=JMS=] to have ultimately diverted from his original plan for a character or subplot.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: RetiredBadass colony leader Robert Black, a veteran of the Battle of the Line and a runaway SuperSoldier, only appears in one episode but gets more praise for his performance and characterization than some of the regular characters do.
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** Back when this actually aired on TV, this troper showed a Galen[=/=]Gideon scene to a friend who was not familiar with the show, was not into slash or familiar with shipping. I asked if I was imagining the HoYay. His response was unequivocal: "It's not your imagination!"
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* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. They either loved it or hated it. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].

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* BrokenBase - the BrokenBase: The soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive ''Series/BabylonFive'' fans. They either loved it or hated it. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].



* RetroactiveRecognition: Daniel Dae Kim got his break here, having been relegated to 'token' Asian roles in the past. Kim is one of two actors to play both a [[{{Series/Angel}} Wolfram & Hart]] lawyer and a survivor of [[{{Series/Lost}} Oceanic Flight 815]]: The other is Sam Anderson. He currently stars in the ''Hawaii Five-0'' remake.
* ToughActToFollow: The characters didn't seem to interact as believably as, well, B5's did. The story didn't seem quite as important as B5's did. That's the problem: Joe was competing with himself. Given some time, this show might have outgrown of the shadow of its elder brother. Unfortunately, TNT, having sunk money into the original show (they paid for the fifth season and various one-off movies), could not apparently bring themselves to gamble on a new property.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Daniel Dae Kim Creator/DanielDaeKim got his break here, having been relegated to 'token' Asian roles in the past. Kim is one of two actors to play both a [[{{Series/Angel}} Wolfram & Hart]] lawyer and a survivor of [[{{Series/Lost}} Oceanic Flight 815]]: The other is Sam Anderson. He currently stars in the ''Hawaii Five-0'' remake.\n
* ToughActToFollow: The characters didn't seem to interact as believably as, well, B5's did. The story didn't seem quite as important as B5's did. That's the problem: Joe Creator/JMichaelStraczynski was competing with himself. Given some time, this show might have outgrown of the shadow of its elder brother. Unfortunately, TNT, having sunk money into the original show (they paid for the fifth season and various one-off movies), could not apparently bring themselves to gamble on a new property.
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* ToughActToFollow: The characters didn't seem to interact as believably as, well, B5's did. The story didn't seem quite as important as B5's did. That's the problem: Joe was competing with himself. Given some time, this show might have outgrown of the shadow of its elder brother. Unfortunately, TNT, having sunk money into the original show (they paid for the fifth season and various one-off movies), could not apparently bring themselves to gamble on a new property.

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* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. They either loved it or hated it. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].



* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. They either loved it or hated it. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].
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* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].

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* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. They either loved it or hated it. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].
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* BrokenBase - the soundtrack got backlash from Series/BabylonFive fans. You can listen to it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sosJO4hJrIs here]].

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* StoicWoobie: ''Adam.'' He's the poorest of the poor even among lowly serfs, his father was an abusive drunk, his beloved mother dies leaving him completely alone in the world and he's tormented by the belief that she's trapped in hell. As Lord Guy's dog boy he's in line for all kinds of abuse, Lord Robert makes his life hell for trying to protect Jennet, and the other men and boys are jealous because he's actually good at his job. [[spoiler: Then while on the Crusades, Lord Robert sells his beloved dog to go to the fighting pits (though Sir Ivo thankfully prevents this from happening), Lord Guy dies just after Adam discovers he's his real father and abandoned him and his mother; and finally Jennet and Tibby -- the only family he has -- are killed and kidnapped respectively.]] Despite all this he manages to hold together remarkably well and his resilience is one of the things that wins Salim over.
--> Salim's narrative: ''If I'd been all alone in the world, without any family at all, I'd have crumpled up completely,'' he thought....But he couldn't help liking the Frankish boy. There was a dogged loneliness about him, an untouchable quality that stirred Salim's sympathy.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted. The written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''Series/BabylonFive''.



* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).more).

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* MostAnnoyingSound: The "score" by Evan H. Chen, consisting of a series of repetitive and annoying EarWorm tracks with any sense of harmony or melody sounding like the composer hitting random notes on a keyboard until something resembling music came out. Any and all attempts at sounding exotic and otherworldly fall flat and instead serve as a test of patience. The soundtrack would be more at home with the low-rate video games made in the '90s than a spinoff to one of the most popular sci-fi TV shows in recent history.
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The "score" by Evan H. Chen, consisting of a series of repetitive and annoying EarWorm tracks with any sense of harmony or melody sounding like the composer hitting random notes on a keyboard until something resembling music came out. Any and all attempts at sounding exotic and otherworldly fall flat and instead serve as a test of patience. The soundtrack would be more at home with the low-rate video games made in the '90s than a spinoff to one of the most popular sci-fi TV shows in recent history.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Daniel Dae Kim got his break here, having been relegated to 'token' Asian roles in the past. Kim is one of two actors to play both a [[{{Series/Angel}} Wolfram & Hart]] lawyer and a survivor of [[{{Series/Lost}} Oceanic Flight 815]]: The other is Sam Anderson. He currently stars in the ''Hawaii Five-0'' remake.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The most noticeable artifact is the scrambled episode order, but that's just the beginning of it (see trope page for more).
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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[SpaceBattleshipYamato Space Battleship Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like ''Series/BlakesSeven''.
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Maybe a little personal, but it was funny at the time, as this guy did in fact work in the TV industry and not being a shipper, was viewing this with a less biased eye than I was. It was a real world Everyone Can See It.

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** Back when this actually aired on TV, this troper showed a Galen[=/=]Gideon scene to a friend who was not familiar with the show, was not into slash or familiar with shipping. I asked if I was imagining the HoYay. His response was unequivocal: "It's not your imagination!"
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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like ''Series/BlakesSeven''.

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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan ''[[SpaceBattleshipYamato Space Battleship Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like ''Series/BlakesSeven''.
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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted. The written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''BabylonFive''.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted. The written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''BabylonFive''.''Series/BabylonFive''.
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-->'''Galen:''' Look Matthew, to those of us in my order, another Technomage is the only family have. After I was asked to leave the order as a penalty for having too much contact with the outside, I came to rely on you.

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-->'''Galen:''' Look Matthew, [[FirstNameBasis Matthew]], to those of us in my order, another Technomage is the only family have. After I was asked to leave the order as a penalty for having too much contact with the outside, I came to rely on you.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted. The written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted. The written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''.''BabylonFive''.
* HoYay: A fair amount of it between Galen and Gideon over the course of the series. Starting with Galen getting himself in trouble with the order for saving Gideon's life in the first place, and, well, this scene in "The Memory of War" sums up the rest:
-->'''Galen:''' Look Matthew, to those of us in my order, another Technomage is the only family have. After I was asked to leave the order as a penalty for having too much contact with the outside, I came to rely on you.
-->''(Gideon gives Galen an odd look)''
-->'''Galen:''' [[VerbalBackspace And... and on the others.. and on this place.]]
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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like ''BlakesSeven''.

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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like ''BlakesSeven''.''Series/BlakesSeven''.
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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like BlakesSeven.

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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like BlakesSeven.''BlakesSeven''.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Sadly averted: the written but unproduced mid-season episode "To The Ends Of The Earth" would have been to ''Crusade'' what "Signs And Portents" was to ''[[BabylonFive Babylon 5]]''.

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* RecycledPremise: It's basically ''[[UchuuSenkanYamato Uchuu Senkan Excalibur]]''. The [[WhatCouldHaveBeen planned five-year arc was going to be]] more like BlakesSeven.

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The \"Hey It\'s That Guy\"/\"That Voice\" entries should go on the trivia page and in most cases (like here) they are so pointless it is not really worth creating a trivia page just to put them there. It would just be clutter.


* HeyItsThatGuy: Gary Cole, who played Gideon, went on to appear in several prominent comedic and serious roles in films & TV, including Vice President Bob Russell in TheWestWing. Daniel Dae Kim, who played Matheson, went on to play Tom Baker in ''[[TwentyFour 24]]'' and Gavin Park in ''{{Angel}}'', and then became a main cast member of ''{{Lost}}'' as the character Jin.

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