Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / CharlottesWeb

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "I Can Talk" in and of itself is not an example (after all, it is what kick-starts the important plot point that Wilbur can, well, talk), but during the song, Wilbur expresses quite a bit of SesquipedalianLoquaciousness outside of the chorus, like with "perspicacity" and "loquacity." This is pretty ridiculous considering he ''just learned how to speak'', there's little explanation as to how he suddenly learned all these big words, and not only is this not addressed after the song ends, it's thoroughly contradicted later on when he asks the meaning of much simpler words like "salutations." Then it's to be expected from The Sherman Brothers, who also wrote "[[Film/MaryPoppins Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious]]" and "[[WesternAnimation/YoureAGoodManCharlieBrown Fundamental Friend-dependability]]".

to:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "I Can Talk" in and of itself is not an example (after all, it is what kick-starts the important plot point that Wilbur can, well, talk), but during the song, Wilbur expresses quite a bit of SesquipedalianLoquaciousness outside of the chorus, like with "perspicacity" and "loquacity." This is pretty ridiculous considering he ''just learned how to speak'', there's little explanation as to how he suddenly learned all these big words, and not only is this not addressed after the song ends, it's thoroughly contradicted later on when he asks the meaning of much simpler words like "salutations." Then it's to be expected from The Sherman Brothers, who also wrote "[[Film/MaryPoppins Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious]]" and "[[WesternAnimation/YoureAGoodManCharlieBrown Fundamental Friend-dependability]]". Notably, E.B. White especially disliked the song and asked for it to be removed during production, but without success.

Added: 495

Changed: 455

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* TheWoobie: Poor Cardigan suffers a fair amount. First, he's openly bullied and ridiculed by the other lambs of his birth flock for being the only black-wooled sheep on the farm. Then, after it seems like he's finally got a true blue friend in the form of Wilbur, he's bought by another farmer at the fair and promptly relocated, where it seems he's also treated with contempt by the other animals. After all this, Farley kidnaps him and nearly eats him.
** Wilbur doesn't have it easier in this LighterAndSofter sequel either; it's shown that he's still somewhat grieving the loss of Charlotte, is teased by the other animals for his cowardly tendencies, and then endures his second heartache at the country fair when Cardigan is sold off to a neighboring farm.
** The spider sisters have a lot on their shoulders as they hope to live up to their mother's legacy, but they constantly doubt they'll ever be as noble and compassionate as Charlotte was.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, Templeton is a glutton who gorging himself on discarded fairground scraps, some of which was already ''in the garbage'', but when all the food he's actually shown eating is [[FoodPorn drawn so appetizingly]], who can blame him?

to:

* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, Templeton is a glutton who for gorging himself on discarded fairground scraps, some of which was is already ''in the garbage'', garbage'' by the time he gets to it, but when all the food he's actually shown eating is [[FoodPorn drawn so appetizingly]], who can blame him?

Added: 189

Changed: 27

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, Templeton is a glutton who gorging himself on discarded fairground scraps, some of which was already ''in the garbage'', but when all the food is [[FoodPorn drawn so appetizingly]], who can blame him?

to:

* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, Templeton is a glutton who gorging himself on discarded fairground scraps, some of which was already ''in the garbage'', but when all the food he's actually shown eating is [[FoodPorn drawn so appetizingly]], who can blame him?


Added DiffLines:

* {{Squick}}: An accidental example. During Templeton's smorgasbord, he dives into a pitcher of discarded lemonade that's painted in a shade of yellow that looks a little too much like pee.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NauseaFuel: [[FoodPorn Well-drawn food]] or not, there's no getting around the fact that Templeton's "smorgasbord" consists entirely of literal garbage either eaten off the ground or dug out of trash cans.

to:

* NauseaFuel: [[FoodPorn Well-drawn food]] or not, there's no getting around the fact that Templeton's "smorgasbord" consists entirely of literal garbage either eaten off the ground or dug out of trash cans.cans (he is still a rat, after all). His verse in "A Veritable Smorgasbord" aren't much better, describing such [[SarcasmMode delectable treats]] as soggy sandwiches, apple cores and melon rinds.

Added: 411

Changed: 546

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Templeton is derided by Wilbur and Charlotte when he returns from his smorgasbord immensely obese and his gluttony utterly satisfied. Many viewers actually enjoyed his bingeing sequence for [[FoodPorn how delicious the food looked]], even though it was scraps and trash!

to:

* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, Templeton is derided by Wilbur and Charlotte a glutton who gorging himself on discarded fairground scraps, some of which was already ''in the garbage'', but when he returns from his smorgasbord immensely obese and his gluttony utterly satisfied. Many viewers actually enjoyed his bingeing sequence for all the food is [[FoodPorn how delicious the food looked]], even though it was scraps and trash! drawn so appetizingly]], who can blame him?



* JustHereForGodzilla: A sizeable crowd watches this film just to see Templeton stuffing his face with discarded fair food [[BalloonBelly and the aftermath]].

to:

* JustHereForGodzilla: A sizeable crowd watches Those with an affinity for fat cartoon animals typically know this film just to see movie solely for the scene were Templeton stuffing his face with gorges himself on discarded fair food food, then returns to the farm [[BalloonBelly and visibly stuffed to the aftermath]].gills]].
* NauseaFuel: [[FoodPorn Well-drawn food]] or not, there's no getting around the fact that Templeton's "smorgasbord" consists entirely of literal garbage either eaten off the ground or dug out of trash cans.
* PopularWithFurries: As mentioned above, the movie is very popular among "fatfurs" (furries who love fat cartoon animals) for the scene of Templeton [[BalloonBelly getting fat off of fairground scraps]].



* CreepyCute: Charlotte, needless to say. It's even lampshaded at the end when Charlotte's children were born.

to:

* CreepyCute: Charlotte, needless to say. It's even lampshaded at the end when Charlotte's children were are born.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Wangst}}: Wilbur is over-the-top even when he has real reason to be upset.

to:

* {{Wangst}}: Wilbur is over-the-top even when he has real reason to be upset.
upset. In the book it feels less melodramatic because he's clearly a young child in pig years, but with the grown man's voice of Henry Gibson his wailing and sobbing sounds a bit more ridiculous.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "I Can Talk" in and of itself is not an example (after all, it is what kick-starts the important plot point that Wilbur can, well, talk), but during the song, Wilbur expresses quite a bit of SesquipedalianLoquaciousness outside of the chorus, like with "perspicacity" and "loquacity." This is pretty ridiculous considering he ''just learned how to speak'', there's little explanation as to how he suddenly learned all these big words, and not only is this not addressed after the song ends, it's thoroughly contradicted later on when he asks the meaning of much simpler words like "salutations."

to:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "I Can Talk" in and of itself is not an example (after all, it is what kick-starts the important plot point that Wilbur can, well, talk), but during the song, Wilbur expresses quite a bit of SesquipedalianLoquaciousness outside of the chorus, like with "perspicacity" and "loquacity." This is pretty ridiculous considering he ''just learned how to speak'', there's little explanation as to how he suddenly learned all these big words, and not only is this not addressed after the song ends, it's thoroughly contradicted later on when he asks the meaning of much simpler words like "salutations."" Then it's to be expected from The Sherman Brothers, who also wrote "[[Film/MaryPoppins Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious]]" and "[[WesternAnimation/YoureAGoodManCharlieBrown Fundamental Friend-dependability]]".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "I Can Talk" in and of itself is not an example (after all, it is what kick-starts the important plot point that Wilbur can, well, talk), but during the song, Wilbur expresses quite a bit of SesquipedalianLoquaciousness outside of the chorus, like with "perspicacity" and "loquacity." This is pretty ridiculous considering he ''just learned how to speak'', there's little explanation as to how he suddenly learned all these big words, and not only is this not addressed after the song ends, it's thoroughly contradicted later on when he asks the meaning of much simpler words like "salutations."

Added: 375

Changed: 1157

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Instead of the cheery vocal songs of the 1973 film, it instead features an excellent instrumental score by Music/DannyElfman that is in many ways just as moving.
** And how could we forget [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I32BV77gK8 Ordinary Miracle]] by Music/SarahMcLachlan?

to:

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Instead of the cheery vocal songs of the 1973 film, it instead features an excellent instrumental SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic
** Can't go wrong with a
score by Music/DannyElfman that Music/DannyElfman. As is in many ways just as to be expected, it's both whimsical and incredibly moving.
** And how could we forget Music/SarahMcLachlan's AwardBaitSong, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I32BV77gK8 Ordinary Miracle]] by Music/SarahMcLachlan?"Ordinary Miracle"]].



* NightmareFuel: Though they try to make Charlotte as expressive and sweet as a realistic spider can get, she's still bound to spook a few arachnophobes, especially in close up shots.
** That's nothing compared to her three remaining children who are given brief close up shots and they're not even given expressive emotions. So instead of UglyCute creations like their mother, it's just realistic close ups of baby spiders. And the cut to them is so sudden that the moment is made jarring by an unintended JumpScare.

to:

* NightmareFuel: Though they try NightmareFuel
** While the film tries
to make Charlotte as expressive and sweet even beautiful as a realistic spider can get, she's still bound to spook a few arachnophobes, especially in close up shots.
** That's nothing compared to her Her three remaining children who are given brief close up shots and they're not even given expressive emotions. So instead of UglyCute creations like aren't quite so lucky, as their mother, it's designs are a lot more hyper-realistic, lacking the expressiveness of their mother and otherwise just realistic close ups of looking like normal baby spiders. And the cut to them is so sudden that the moment is made jarring by an unintended JumpScare. it can feel like a JumpScare.



* UglyCute: Charlotte. Aside from having only two eyes and several "eyespots," she otherwise looks like a real spider. And yet, somehow, she comes off as beautiful.

to:

* UglyCute: Charlotte. Aside from having only two eyes and several "eyespots," she otherwise looks like a real spider. And yet, somehow, spider and, as mentioned above, you'll probably have a hard time watching this movie if you're arachnophobic. Still, she's otherwise so elegant and expressive (especially with Julia Roberts' comforting voice) that she comes off as beautiful.

Added: 1634

Changed: 21

Removed: 1738

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved stuff around








* NightmareFuel: This version pretty much averts this trope. However, its 2003 direct-to-video sequel contains a scene where [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a fox kidnaps Wilbur's new sheep friend, takes him to an abandoned house and tries to eat him while looking like he's enjoying himself WAY too much...]]
* {{Sequelitis}}: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel was not fondly received, ''especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]]. It didn't help that literally nobody involved with the original worked on it, not even the actors.




!!The 2003 DTV sequel
* SugarWiki/AwesomeAnimation: The movie has some pretty decent animation and backgrounds, given how lackluster everything else about it is.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: If you can believe it, the most well-received parts of the sequel were those that had the strongest connection to the original film -- Charlotte's three daughters, Nellie, Aranea, and Joy, who get a subplot about trying to live up to their mother.
* IdiotPlot: That's right, Wilbur is willing to risk being hunted and killed by angry farmers after being mistaken for a wild pig, all because he promised his new friend Cardigan that he'd stay with him until the farmer shears his wool. This, despite that he knows and has assured Cardigan already that having his wool shorn is not the big deal Cardigan thought it was.
* NightmareFuel: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel contains a scene where [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a fox kidnaps Wilbur's new sheep friend, takes him to an abandoned house and tries to eat him while looking like he's enjoying himself WAY too much...]]
* {{Sequelitis}}: It's an unnecessary, lighter-in-tone, direct-to-video sequel that does almost nothing to follow up on the plot of the original. You expected anything different? (''Especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]].) It didn't help that literally nobody involved with the original worked on it, not even the actors.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Some reviewers have pointed out that the performances of the voice cast aren't half-bad, and that they at least did an admirable job trying to breath life and energy into their characters.



!!The 2003 DTV sequel
* SugarWiki/AwesomeAnimation: The movie has some pretty decent animation and backgrounds, given how lackluster everything else about it is.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: If you can believe it, the most well-received parts of the sequel were those that had the strongest connection to the original film -- Charlotte's three daughters, Nellie, Aranea, and Joy, who get a subplot about trying to live up to their mother.
* IdiotPlot: That's right, Wilbur is willing to risk being hunted and killed by angry farmers after being mistaken for a wild pig, all because he promised his new friend Cardigan that he'd stay with him until the farmer shears his wool. This, despite that he knows and has assured Cardigan already that having his wool shorn is not the big deal Cardigan thought it was.
* {{Sequelitis}}: It's an unnecessary, lighter-in-tone, direct-to-video sequel that does almost nothing to follow up on the plot of the original. You expected anything different?
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Some reviewers have pointed out that the performances of the voice cast aren't half-bad, and that they at least did an admirable job trying to breath life and energy into their characters.

to:

!!The 2003 DTV sequel
* SugarWiki/AwesomeAnimation: The movie has some pretty decent animation and backgrounds, given how lackluster everything else about it is.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: If you can believe it, the most well-received parts of the sequel were those that had the strongest connection to the original film -- Charlotte's three daughters, Nellie, Aranea, and Joy, who get a subplot about trying to live up to their mother.
* IdiotPlot: That's right, Wilbur is willing to risk being hunted and killed by angry farmers after being mistaken for a wild pig, all because he promised his new friend Cardigan that he'd stay with him until the farmer shears his wool. This, despite that he knows and has assured Cardigan already that having his wool shorn is not the big deal Cardigan thought it was.
* {{Sequelitis}}: It's an unnecessary, lighter-in-tone, direct-to-video sequel that does almost nothing to follow up on the plot of the original. You expected anything different?
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Some reviewers have pointed out that the performances of the voice cast aren't half-bad, and that they at least did an admirable job trying to breath life and energy into their characters.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


%%* ItWasHisSled: Charlotte dies.

to:

%%* * ItWasHisSled: Even if you haven't read the book, you already know that Charlotte dies.dies near the end.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BillingDisplacement: The poster mentions almost everyone in the main cast - except Dominic Scott Kay, who voices Wilbur.
Tabs MOD

Removed: 416

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EarWorm:
** I can talk, I can talk-talk-talk! I can talk..."
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHtjYTM64Jo "Chin up, Chin up. Everybody loves a happy face!"]]
** Oh wow! Look at him now. Zuckerman's famous pig.
** A fair is a veeeritable smorgasbord-orgasbord-orgasbord...
** Let's just say that pretty much ''every'' song in this film is one. These songs were all composed by Music/TheShermanBrothers after all...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

!!The 2003 DTV sequel
* SugarWiki/AwesomeAnimation: The movie has some pretty decent animation and backgrounds, given how lackluster everything else about it is.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: If you can believe it, the most well-received parts of the sequel were those that had the strongest connection to the original film -- Charlotte's three daughters, Nellie, Aranea, and Joy, who get a subplot about trying to live up to their mother.
* IdiotPlot: That's right, Wilbur is willing to risk being hunted and killed by angry farmers after being mistaken for a wild pig, all because he promised his new friend Cardigan that he'd stay with him until the farmer shears his wool. This, despite that he knows and has assured Cardigan already that having his wool shorn is not the big deal Cardigan thought it was.
* {{Sequelitis}}: It's an unnecessary, lighter-in-tone, direct-to-video sequel that does almost nothing to follow up on the plot of the original. You expected anything different?
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Some reviewers have pointed out that the performances of the voice cast aren't half-bad, and that they at least did an admirable job trying to breath life and energy into their characters.

Added: 279

Changed: 279

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* IAmNotShazam: If you haven't read the book or watched any of its adaptations but have seen the book's cover art online, you'll be forgiven to think that Charlotte is the pig. Nope, the pig's Wilbur, and it's a ''he''. Charlotte is the spider who dies near the end of the story.



* IAmNotShazam: If you haven't read the book or watched any of its adaptations but have seen the book's cover art online, you'll be forgiven to think that Charlotte is the pig. Nope, the pig's Wilbur, and it's a ''he''. Charlotte is the spider who dies near the end of the story.

to:

* IAmNotShazam: If you haven't read the book or watched any of its adaptations but have seen the book's cover art online, you'll be forgiven to think that Charlotte is the pig. Nope, the pig's Wilbur, and it's a ''he''. Charlotte is the spider who dies near the end of the story.

Changed: 259

Removed: 178

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesDissonance: Apparently bringing a gun to school was acceptable in the fifties, as Avery is casually mentioned to do.
** In certain cultures and areas. A lot of people going out hunting, bringing a gun to school wasn't as eyebrow raising to people because mass school shootings weren't as common.

to:

* ValuesDissonance: Apparently bringing a gun to school was acceptable in the fifties, as Avery is casually mentioned as having brought a gun to do.
** In certain cultures and areas. A lot of people going out hunting,
school. Given that the story takes place in a rural farming area in the early twentieth century, bringing a gun to school wasn't as eyebrow raising eyebrow-raising to people because mass school shootings weren't as common.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CantUnhearIt: For those who grew up on the 1973 Hanna-Barbera adaptation, just try reading the novel without hearing the voices of Henry Gibson, Debbie Reynolds, or Paul Lynde as Wilbur, Charlotte, and Templeton.

to:

* CantUnhearIt: For those who grew up on the 1973 Hanna-Barbera adaptation, just try reading the novel without hearing the voices of Henry Gibson, Debbie Reynolds, or and Paul Lynde as Wilbur, Charlotte, and Templeton.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CantUnhearIt: For those who grew up on the 1973 Hanna-Barbera adaptation, just try reading the novel without hearing the voices of Henry Gibson or Debbie Reynolds as the lead characters.

to:

* CantUnhearIt: For those who grew up on the 1973 Hanna-Barbera adaptation, just try reading the novel without hearing the voices of Henry Gibson or Gibson, Debbie Reynolds Reynolds, or Paul Lynde as the lead characters.Wilbur, Charlotte, and Templeton.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Sequelitis}}: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel, was not fondly received, ''especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]]. It didn't help that literally nobody involved with the original worked on it, not even the actors.
* TastesLikeDiabetes: This was the author's main complaint.

to:

* {{Sequelitis}}: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel, sequel was not fondly received, ''especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]]. It didn't help that literally nobody involved with the original worked on it, not even the actors.
* TastesLikeDiabetes: This Creator/EBWhite's [[DisownedAdaptation main complaint about the film]] was the author's main complaint.[[ThatRemindsMeOfASong story stopping so the characters can break out into jolly songs that don't progress the plot]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In certain cultures and areas. A lot of people going out hunting, people were a lot less reactionary because mass school shootings weren't as common.

to:

** In certain cultures and areas. A lot of people going out hunting, bringing a gun to school wasn't as eyebrow raising to people were a lot less reactionary because mass school shootings weren't as common.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Templeton the rat.
* ItWasHisSled: Charlotte dies.

to:

* %%* EnsembleDarkhorse: Templeton the rat.
* %%* ItWasHisSled: Charlotte dies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CantUnhearIt: For those who grew up on the 1973 Hanna-Barbera adaptation, just try reading the novel without hearing the voices of Henry Gibson or Debbie Reynolds as the lead characters.

Added: 149

Changed: 97

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EarWorm: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHtjYTM64Jo "Chin up, Chin up. Everybody loves a happy face!"]]

to:

* EarWorm: [[https://www.EarWorm:
**I can talk, I can talk-talk-talk! I can talk..."
**[[https://www.
youtube.com/watch?v=SHtjYTM64Jo "Chin up, Chin up. Everybody loves a happy face!"]]

Changed: 18

Removed: 95

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: Charlotte's death. Wilbur's reaction in the 1973 film sells it pretty well, too.



* HarsherInHindsight: Charlotte died content, knowing that her children would be born and live on. Her actress, Debbie Reynolds, outlived her daughter Carrie Fisher by one day.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Charlotte died content, knowing that her children would be born and live on. Her actress, Debbie Reynolds, Creator/DebbieReynolds, outlived her daughter Carrie Fisher Creator/CarrieFisher by one day.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CreepyCute: Charlotte, needless to say. It's even lampshaded at the end when Charlotte's children were born.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** That's nothing compared to her three remaining children who are given brief close up shots and they're not even given expressive emotions. So instead of UglyCute creations like their mother, it's just realistic close ups of baby spiders. And the cut to them is so sudden that the moment is made jarring by an unintended JumpScare.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Let's just say that pretty much ''every'' song in this film is one. These songs were all composed by Music/TheShermanBrothers after all...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NightmareFuel: This version pretty much averts this trope. However, its 2003 direct-to-video sequel contains a scene where [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything a fox kidnaps Wilbur's new sheep friend, takes him to an abandoned house and tries to eat him while looking like he's enjoying himself WAY too much...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HarsherInHindsight: Charolette's death can be seen more tear jerking nowadays with Debbie Reynolds' death, especially taking into account that while Charlotte died content, knowing that her children would be born and live on, Debbie Reynolds outlived her daughter Carrie Fisher by one day.

to:

* HarsherInHindsight: Charolette's death can be seen more tear jerking nowadays with Debbie Reynolds' death, especially taking into account that while Charlotte died content, knowing that her children would be born and live on, on. Her actress, Debbie Reynolds Reynolds, outlived her daughter Carrie Fisher by one day.



* {{Sequelitis}}: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel was not fondly received, ''especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]].

to:

* {{Sequelitis}}: The 2003 direct-to-video sequel sequel, was not fondly received, ''especially'' with the [[YouDontLookLikeYou jarring difference in character designs]].designs]]. It didn't help that literally nobody involved with the original worked on it, not even the actors.



* UncannyValley: A mild example, but the shift between cartoony drawings and more realistic ones can come of as a bit jarring to some.

to:

* UncannyValley: A mild example, but The more realistically drawn human characters don't bode quite so well with the shift between more exaggerated cartoony drawings and more realistic ones can come designs of as a bit jarring to some.the animals.

Top