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* EvilIsSexy: Don't deny it, the first thing Carmen stole was your heart.

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* EvilIsSexy: [[spoiler:Carmen in the series finale as a brainwashed agent of V.I.L.E.]]

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: In Episode 7, Player is shown ''with a fidget spinner''. Of course, fidget spinners do have a functional use beyond being the current "popular toy"; their main, original purpose (and similar toys have existed since the 90s) is for focusing, stress-relief and anxiety, and popular as a stim toy for those with ADHD and Autism - as Player is shown as a teen genius with a major focus on computers and hacking, it is not unreasonable that he may have the fidget spinner because of those or related reasons.
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* ShipSinking: The series finale sinks [[spoiler:Red Crackle, with Gray choosing to stay out of Carmen’s life forever.]]
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** Both of them also get to do a freestyle version of Rockapella's iconic theme to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' in the "To Steal or Not to Steal" special. [[spoiler:The unlockable bonus scene takes it UpToEleven by turning it into a CrowdSong, with every single recurring character, both villain and hero, joining in]].

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** Both of them also get to do a freestyle version of Rockapella's iconic theme to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' in the "To Steal or Not to Steal" special. [[spoiler:The unlockable bonus scene takes it UpToEleven up to eleven by turning it into a CrowdSong, with every single recurring character, both villain and hero, joining in]].
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** In ''To Steal or Not To Steal'', the main plot is VILE attempting to brainwash Carmen into becoming an agent for them, which happens if you choose the wrong options and get a game over. Come season 4 of the show, and this actually happens in canon.
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* CatharsisFactor: Considering the vicious acts V.I.L.E. faulty committed throughout the series, especially to Carmen, it's hard to feel bad for them when [[spoiler:they all got arrested by A.C.M.E. with the help of Carmen in the final episode.]]

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* CatharsisFactor: Considering the vicious acts V.I.L.E. faulty faculty committed throughout the series, especially to Carmen, it's hard to feel bad for them when [[spoiler:they all got arrested by A.C.M.E. with the help of Carmen in the final episode.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: Considering the vicious acts V.I.L.E. faulty committed throughout the series, especially to Carmen, it's hard to feel bad for them when [[spoiler:they all got arrested by A.C.M.E. with the help of Carmen in the final episode.]]
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** Plots about V.I.L.E kidnapping a member of Team Carmen are also popular. Bonus points if they nab Player, thanks to the sheer AdultFear such a situation would create. "To Steal or Not to Steal" ended up using this plot, with Zack and Ivy being the victims.

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** Plots about V.I.L.E kidnapping a member of Team Carmen are also popular. Bonus points if they nab Player, thanks to the sheer AdultFear worries such a situation would create. "To Steal or Not to Steal" ended up using this plot, with Zack and Ivy being the victims.

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* FoeYay: Carmen and Chase in ''Word Detective''. At least [[http://youtu.be/NswDquSoW68?t=4m59s one Let's Player]] has suggested that they had a relationship while partners.
* FoeYayShipping: Fan material pairing Carmen and Ivy together is not uncommon.

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Carmen and Chase in ''Word Detective''. At least [[http://youtu.be/NswDquSoW68?t=4m59s one Let's Player]] has suggested that they had a relationship while partners.
* FoeYayShipping: ** Fan material pairing Carmen and Ivy together is not uncommon.



* FoeYay: Carmen and Tigress, particularly in "To Steal or Not To Steal" where Carmen refers to Tigress as her "best frenemy", Tigress almost seems to be hitting on Carmen in their banter, and if Carmen makes the correct choice to help Tigress out of a pit she falls into then [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe a grateful Tigress]] [[PetTheDog actually goes agaisnt V.I.L.E and helps Carmen rescue Zack and Ivy later on.]]

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* FoeYay: FoeYayShipping: Carmen and Tigress, particularly in "To Steal or Not To Steal" where Carmen refers to Tigress as her "best frenemy", Tigress almost seems to be hitting on Carmen in their banter, and if Carmen makes the correct choice to help Tigress out of a pit she falls into then [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe a grateful Tigress]] [[PetTheDog actually goes agaisnt V.I.L.E and helps Carmen rescue Zack and Ivy later on.]]
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** Likewise with the Lupin III fandom.
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* IdiosyncraticShipNaming: Carmen/Gray is called Red Crackle.

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* IdiosyncraticShipNaming: Carmen/Gray is called Red Crackle. Carmen/Julia is sometimes called Jewel Thief or Jule Thief.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Carmen and Julia, since they are the most written ship among fanfiction websites.
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* FanNickname: Thanks to JustForFun/RoleAssociation regarding their respective actors, some fans have dubbed Spinkick and Flytrap "Evil [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]]" and "Evil [[WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse Luz]]", respectively.
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* WinTheCrowd:
** The trailer showing off the series' art style drew plenty of fans to the show.
** Many fans have praised the series, saying that this is a proper reboot, mixing elements from the games, the old game show ''and'' [[WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego the previous animated series]] and creating something new and interesting with it.
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* SurpriseDifficulty: Among the few that have actually given ''Where in North Dakota'' a try, one of the first things they will note is how unexpectedly difficult it is. The game relies on historical trivia associated with a state that already has a very small population and few noteworthy landmarks, some of which is obscure enough that even an Internet search won't always save you. It's sometimes even considered the hardest game in the series for this reason.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Carmen and Julia, since they are the most written ship among fanfiction websites.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandiego whose morality is more similar to her original characterization within the franchise.]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandiego whose morality is more similar - [[AdaptationalVillainy albeit slightly darker]] - to her original characterization within the franchise.]]


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** In the series finale, the [[spoiler: silhouetted Carmen seen at the end is not confirmed to be the one we know, and since Shadow-San says that she had inspired people to the point where "Carmen Sandiego" can now be deemed a LegacyCharacter, it's very easy to write about an all-new Carmen with her own new background, personality and motivations.]]

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** From "Becoming Carmen", [[spoiler:Crackle preparing to kill that kindly old man who opened Carmen's eyes, and taught her what V.I.L.E. truly stood for, was considered this to Carmen.]]

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** From "Becoming Carmen", [[spoiler:Crackle preparing to kill that kindly old man who opened Carmen's eyes, and taught her what eyes was considered this to Carmen as the point where V.I.L.E. truly stood for, was considered this to Carmen.as a whole crossed a moral line for her.]]


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** In the final episodes, Maelstrom [[spoiler: preparing to leave Coach Brunt for dead while making off with the treasure they were after, as well as crossing it again along with the rest of the V.I.L.E. faculty as a whole with their MindRape of Carmen to turn her into a sociopathic agent for their purposes.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Shadow-san deterring Carmen from a life in crime makes it hard to look at in "The Daisho Caper" when it's revealed that this way of thinking caused him to lose his connections with his older brother; he doesn't want Carmen to repeat the same mistakes he did.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Shadow-san deterring Carmen from a life in crime makes it hard to look at in "The Daisho Caper" when it's revealed that this way of thinking caused him to lose his connections with his older brother; he doesn't want Carmen to repeat the same mistakes he did.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fourth season introduces a number of interesting storylines to explore and then [[AbortedArc literally drops them]] in favor of wrapping up the series in eight episodes. Said storylines include Bellum's army of Robot-Robbers, the history of V.I.L.E. reaching back to ''medieval times'', and most especially Carmen's mother, who gets neither an appearance nor a speaking role.
** The only saving grace is the SequelHook in the final episode that indicates V.I.L.E. is gone but their ''numerous members'' are ''not'', meaning they ''could'' explore them if Netflix ever a approves a sequel series.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fourth season introduces a number of interesting storylines to explore and then [[AbortedArc literally drops them]] in favor of wrapping up the series in eight episodes. Said storylines include Bellum's army of Robot-Robbers, the history of V.I.L.E. reaching back to ''medieval times'', and most especially Carmen's mother, who gets neither an appearance nor a speaking role.
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role. The only saving grace is the SequelHook in the final episode that indicates V.I.L.E. is gone but their ''numerous members'' are ''not'', meaning they ''could'' explore them if Netflix ever a approves a sequel series.
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* PanderingToTheBase: Fans of the classic theme song to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' who were disappointed by it's absence from this show were more than assuaged by it's appearance in "To Steal or Not to Steal."

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* PanderingToTheBase: Fans of the classic theme song to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' who were disappointed by it's its absence from this show were more than assuaged by it's its appearance in "To Steal or Not to Steal."
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** Despite having a comparatively smaller role to other characters, Paper Star received a lot of love for her unique design and AxCrazy personality.

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** Despite having a comparatively smaller role to other characters, Paper Star received a lot of love for her unique design and AxCrazy personality. Many fans were not happy that her sole appearance in the final season was just a cameo with no lines.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandeigo whose morality is more similar to her original characterization within the franchise.]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandeigo Sandiego whose morality is more similar to her original characterization within the franchise.]]



** Carmen’s AdaptationalHeroism is also debated by fans. Some find it an interesting new take on a classic character and like that she's more [[AntiHero morally grey]] than outright heroic, while others feel that she would have been better as a full-on VillainProtagonist. [[spoiler: It gets rectify in Season 4 where the Brainwashed!Carmen is pictured to be closer to her original counterpart albeit more rutheless than before.]]

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** Carmen’s AdaptationalHeroism is also debated by fans. Some find it an interesting new take on a classic character and like that she's more [[AntiHero morally grey]] than outright heroic, while others feel that she would have been better as a full-on VillainProtagonist. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:This gets rectify in rectified during the end of Season 4 4, where the Brainwashed!Carmen is pictured to be closer to her original counterpart counterpart, albeit more rutheless ruthless than before.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fourth season introduces a number of interesting storylines to explore and then [[AbortedArc literally drops them]] in favor of wrapping up the series in eight episodes. Said storylines include Bellum's army of Robot-Robbers, the history of V.I.L.E. reaching back to ''medieval times'', and most especially Carmen's mother, who gets neither an appearance nor a speaking role.
** The only saving grace is the SequelHook in the final episode that indicates V.I.L.E. is gone but their ''numerous members'' are ''not'', meaning they ''could'' explore them if Netflix ever a approves a sequel series.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fourth season drops a number of interesting storylines to explore and then [[AbortedArc literally drops them]] in favor of wrapping up the series in eight episodes. Such as Bellum's army of Robots-Robbers, the history of V.I.L.E. reaching back to medieval times, and most especially Carmen's mother who doesn't get an appeareance let alone a speaking role.
** The only saving grace is the SequelHook in the final episode that indicates that V.I.L.E. is gone but their numerous members are not meaning they ''could'' explore them if Netflix ever a approves a sequel series.

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If Crackle played a major role in the last season you can probably stop lamenting that DHX "wasted" him


* AuthorsSavingThrow: A minor example, but fans of the classic theme song to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' who were disappointed by it's absence from this show were more than assuaged by it's appearance in "To Steal or Not to Steal."
** A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandeigo whose morality is more similar to her original characterization within the franchise.]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: A minor example, but fans of the classic theme song to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' who were disappointed by it's absence from this show were more than assuaged by it's appearance in "To Steal or Not to Steal."
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A small one for fans who missed the franchise's initial premise. Towards the end of the final season [[spoiler:Carmen is [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed]] into becoming a loyal V.I.L.E. operative, forcing A.C.M.E. and her allies to embark on a more traditional hunt for a now-villainous Carmen Sandeigo whose morality is more similar to her original characterization within the franchise.]]



* PanderingToTheBase: Fans of the classic theme song to ''Series/WhereInTheWorldIsCarmenSandiego'' who were disappointed by it's absence from this show were more than assuaged by it's appearance in "To Steal or Not to Steal."



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Gray/Crackle. We get to see his and Carmen's relationship in "Becoming Carmen", but after he gets arrested, he has his memories of his criminal life erased and returns to Sydney to be an electrician. Carmen gets to interact with him briefly with his memory wiped but decides [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies to spare him from her quest to undo V.I.L.E.]] since it might be dangerous for one or both of them. It would have been interesting to see more of his development. However, "The Crackle Goes Kiwi Caper" [[spoiler:has him return as a major (if initially unwitting) player in the episode's heist, and ends with A.C.M.E. scouting him out under the impression he's one of Carmen's allies and winds up with him becoming a major player in the events of Season 4.]]
** Player can still be considered one in the final episodes. [[spoiler: Despite his vital role in the series and the end of "The Himalayan Rescue Caper" emphasizing his importance as Carmen's oldest friend, he was put aside after Carmen is kidnapped and brainwashed. He appeared for only a few minutes at the beginning of the final episode and didn't contribute to the final conflict, only reappearing near the final minutes of the episode when Carmen went to meet her mother.]]

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Gray/Crackle. We get to see his and Carmen's relationship in "Becoming Carmen", but after he gets arrested, he has his memories of his criminal life erased and returns to Sydney to be an electrician. Carmen gets to interact with him briefly with his memory wiped but decides [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies to spare him from her quest to undo V.I.L.E.]] since it might be dangerous for one or both of them. It would have been interesting to see more of his development. However, "The Crackle Goes Kiwi Caper" [[spoiler:has him return as a major (if initially unwitting) player in the episode's heist, and ends with A.C.M.E. scouting him out under the impression he's one of Carmen's allies and winds up with him becoming a major player in the events of Season 4.]]
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TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Player can still be considered one in the final episodes. [[spoiler: Despite his vital role in the series and the end of "The Himalayan Rescue Caper" emphasizing his importance as Carmen's oldest friend, he was put aside after Carmen is kidnapped and brainwashed. He appeared for only a few minutes at the beginning of the final episode and didn't contribute to the final conflict, only reappearing near the final minutes of the episode when Carmen went to meet her mother.]]
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** Carmen’s AdaptationalHeroism is also debated by fans. Some find it an interesting new take on a classic character and like that she's more [[AntiHero morally grey]] than outright heroic, while others feel that she would have been better as a full-on VillainProtagonist.

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** Carmen’s AdaptationalHeroism is also debated by fans. Some find it an interesting new take on a classic character and like that she's more [[AntiHero morally grey]] than outright heroic, while others feel that she would have been better as a full-on VillainProtagonist. [[spoiler: It gets rectify in Season 4 where the Brainwashed!Carmen is pictured to be closer to her original counterpart albeit more rutheless than before.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Less than a year before "The Chasing Paper Caper," someone [[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-45991475 far less stealthy than V.I.L.E.]] tried to steal the Magna Carta.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The fourth season drops a number of interesting storylines to explore and then [[AbortedArc literally drops them]] in favor of wrapping up the series in eight episodes. Such as Bellum's army of Robots-Robbers, the history of V.I.L.E. reaching back to medieval times, and most especially Carmen's mother who doesn't get an appeareance let alone a speaking role.
** The only saving grace is the SequelHook in the final episode that indicates that V.I.L.E. is gone but their numerous members are not meaning they ''could'' explore them if Netflix ever a approves a sequel series.
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* GeniusBonus: A brainwashed Carmen meets Zach on a ferris wheel and refers to the people on the ground as "dots," referencing a scene in ''Film/TheThirdMan'' where the hero is forced to realize how evil his old friend is.

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* GeniusBonus: A brainwashed Carmen meets Zach Zack on a ferris Ferris wheel and refers to the people on the ground as "dots," referencing a scene in ''Film/TheThirdMan'' where the hero is forced to realize how evil his old friend is.
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* GeniusBonus: A brainwashed Carmen meets Zach on a ferris wheel and refers to the people on the ground as "dots," referencing a scene in ''Film/TheThirdMan'' where the hero is forced to realize how evil his old friend is.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Plenty of fans, especially Red Crackle shippers, have ignored [[spoiler:Gray's decision to stay out of Carmen's life in the series finale. Fan works set between that and the epilogue tend to have the two of them interacting in some form -- if not for shipping purposes, then at least so the two can get some closure with each other (given how [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone distraught]] Carmen was when she thought she'd killed him).]]

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