History YMMV / Brave

8th Sep '17 12:56:41 AM Occidensill
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** ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'' argued that the real villains of the movie are actually the ''wisps''. Everything was on track for the royal family to talk their way through their problems before the spirits intervened, and it was only through ludicrous luck that they all survived the resulting mess before ending up basically where they were before the spell took effect.

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** ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'' argued Some say that the real villains of the movie are actually the ''wisps''. Everything was on track for the royal family to talk their way through their problems before the spirits intervened, and it was only through ludicrous luck that they all survived the resulting mess before ending up basically where they were before the spell took effect.
14th Jul '17 8:14:41 AM fearlessnikki
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* MisaimedFandom: Fangirls still glorify and adore the super rebellious, feisty, self-centered pre-CharacterDevelopment Merida of the start. You know, the one that ''the movie forces to grow up through hardships and learning instead of giving into her whims and portraying her as Flawless Head Bitch In Charge''?

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Fangirls still glorify and adore the super rebellious, feisty, self-centered pre-CharacterDevelopment Merida of the start. You know, the one that ''the movie forces to grow up through hardships and learning instead of giving into her whims and portraying her as Flawless Head Bitch In Charge''?Charge''?
** The flipside is that Elinor pre-transformation gets praised for being an awesome mother cursed with a BrattyTeenageDaughter. While a pretty good queen, Elinor has to learn to stop treating her daughter like a student and actually listen to her.



* RonTheDeathEater: Though Merida is a very flawed person, her detractors tend to exaggerate her faults to the point of making her out to be [[TeensAreMonsters borderline sociopathic]]. Most notable is the idea that Merida intentionally set out to poison or mind-control her mother, despite the fact that she did ''not'' know what the cake would do beyond a vague notion that it would "change" her, or change her fate. Also widespread is the notion that she could have ended the story instantly by simply apologizing to Elinor sooner, despite the terms of the spell being that they needed to "mend what was broken", indicating that ''both'' of them needed to make an effort to rebuild their love, not simply say that they were sorry.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Though Merida is a very flawed person, her detractors tend to exaggerate her faults to the point of making her out to be [[TeensAreMonsters borderline sociopathic]]. Most notable is the idea that Merida intentionally set out to poison or mind-control her mother, despite the fact that she did ''not'' know what the cake would do beyond a vague notion that it would "change" her, or change her fate. Also widespread is the notion that she could have ended the story instantly by simply apologizing to Elinor sooner, despite the terms of the spell being that they needed to "mend what was broken", indicating that ''both'' of them needed to make an effort to rebuild their love, not simply say that they were sorry. People also tend to ignore Elinor's faults in this argument - forgetting the movie stressing that ''both'' women were in the wrong.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The relationship between Merida and Elinor is often praised as the best thing in the movie. Too bad it got bogged down by the "rebellious princess" stuff and slapstick.

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The relationship between Merida and Elinor is often praised as the best thing in the movie. Too bad it got bogged down by the "rebellious princess" stuff and slapstick.
24th Jun '17 2:22:46 PM NWolfman
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** One popular interpretation of Merida is that she's not interested in any of the male suitors because she's [[Main/AmbiguouslyGay homosexual.]] Like everything else about this movie, it's controversial, as it rules out her ''simply not wanting to get married''.

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** One popular interpretation of Merida is that she's not interested in any of the male suitors because she's [[Main/AmbiguouslyGay homosexual.]] Like everything else about this movie, it's controversial, as Though controversially, it still rules out her ''simply not wanting to get married''.
31st Mar '17 4:07:18 AM Silverblade2
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* BrokenBase: Over whether ''Brave'' is even worth watching.
14th Mar '17 11:58:11 AM Thorion
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* Elinor, Lord Dingwall, the MacGuffins as a whole, Young Macintosh and Martin are all incredibly memorable.

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* ** Elinor, Lord Dingwall, the MacGuffins as a whole, Young Macintosh and Martin are all incredibly memorable.
14th Mar '17 10:25:30 AM Thorion
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* Elinor, Lord Dingwall, the MacGuffins as a whole, Young Macintosh and Martin are all incredibly memorable.
25th Feb '17 2:17:59 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* DorkAge: ''Brave'' had the difficult task of restoring faith in Pixar after the critical failure of ''Cars 2''; instead it went on to become one of Pixar's most divisive films.


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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Brave'' was released amidst a flurry of hype and mystery regarding its story, and it was left to this task after the surprising critical letdown of ''Cars 2''. Despite receiving considerably better reviews, it still failed to captivate fans as their previous efforts had done before.
23rd Jan '17 1:11:11 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* WhatAnIdiot: Merida decides, for some reason, that poisoning her mother with a cake that was made with magic and by a person she has met only once would be a good idea and not end badly.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Merida decides, for some reason, that poisoning her mother with a cake that was made with magic and by a person she has met only once would be a good idea and not end badly. After the witch tries to talk her out of it.
17th Jan '17 11:04:13 PM PaulA
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* BrokenBase: Over whether ''Brave'' is even worth watching.
27th Dec '16 1:08:34 PM Tylerbear12
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** One popular interpretation of Merida is that she's not interested in any of the male suitors because she's [[Main/AmbiguouslyGay homosexual.]] Like everything else about this movie, it's controversial, as it rules out her ''simply not wanting to get married''.



* LesYay: One popular interpretation of Merida is that she's not interested in any of the male suitors because she's homosexual. Like everything else about this movie, it's controversial, as it rules out her ''simply not wanting to get married''.
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