History YMMV / Brave

15th Apr '18 7:24:33 PM AdelePotter
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: A ''lot'' more could've been done with Mor'du. He's a genuinely threatening and scary presence, with an interesting backstory, and there are hints that there's more to him that murderous monster -- it's hinted that he genuinely [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone regrets his past actions]], and is possibly trying to [[DeathSeeker get himself killed on purpose]]. Unfortunately, he has nothing to do with the film's actual conflict, so he's mostly just an obstacle. If his story and Merida's had been more intertwined, and his backstory and current situation was explored more, he could've been a truly great Disney villain.
15th Mar '18 1:30:33 PM 177624601
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**"Touch the Sky" also counts.
11th Mar '18 4:31:43 PM Wheatenlyric950
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** Elinor on the flipside too. Fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her unwanted transformation, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her CharacterDevelopment.

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** Elinor on the flipside too. Fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her unwanted transformation, others saw her as the one in the wrong and [[MyBelovedSmother keeping Merida down down]] for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her CharacterDevelopment.
25th Jan '18 6:34:29 PM SilverDollar
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*** Or perhaps, she's just not at that point in her life that she's interested into getting romantically involved with anyone yet, ''regardlessly''. She's still very young even if she's old enough to get married by certain standards.
4th Dec '17 12:32:39 PM KizunaTallis
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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her unwanted transformation, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her CharacterDevelopment.
** Some people dislike the Witch because they feel she's either not funny, doesn't fit into the rest of the movie (and not in the good way), and wastes a lot of screen time since Merida and Elinor have to go back and forth between her place and the castle. Others found her a one-scene wonder.

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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans too. Fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her unwanted transformation, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her CharacterDevelopment.
** Some people dislike the Witch because they feel she's either not funny, doesn't fit into the rest of the movie (and not in the good way), and wastes a lot of screen time since Merida and Elinor have to go back and forth between her place and the castle. Others found her a one-scene wonder.{{one scene wonder}}.



** Merida has also been compared to [[Series/GameOfThrones Ygritte]] and [[VideoGame/HorizonZeroDawn Aloy]], another pair of red-haired archer girls.



** Elinor, Lord Dingwall, the MacGuffins as a whole, Young Macintosh and Martin are all incredibly memorable.

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** Elinor, Lord Dingwall, the MacGuffins [=MacGuffins=] as a whole, Young Macintosh and Martin are all incredibly memorable.



** Try asking who is in the right: Merida or Elinor. Either Merida is a SpoiledBrat who [[FemaleMisogynist despises any woman aside of herself]], thinks being a princess entitles her to treat people like shit and causes her long-suffering mother too much trouble, or Elinor is an selfish and old-fashioned smother who wants to oppress a strong female like Merida and make her bend to both the evil patriarchy and her own ControlFreak nature.

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** Try asking who is in the right: Merida or Elinor. Either Merida is a SpoiledBrat who [[FemaleMisogynist despises any woman aside of herself]], thinks being a princess entitles her to treat people like shit and causes her long-suffering mother too much trouble, or Elinor is an a selfish and old-fashioned smother [[MyBelovedSmother smother]] who wants to oppress a strong female like Merida and make her bend to both the evil patriarchy and her own ControlFreak nature.



* JerkassWoobie: Merida. Yes, her actions were pretty darn selfish, but the fact that she recognizes this and becomes more and more fearful over the fate of her mother makes it easier to feel sorry for her. Also, while her mother IS trying to train Merida in how to handle the responsibility of ruling a kingdom, Merida's frustration with her situation becomes understandable when Elinor tells her that "a princess strives for...''perfection''." Merida knows that she is far from being perfect, so dealing with constantly being corrected must be stressful, not to mention rather disheartening.

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* JerkassWoobie: Merida. Yes, her actions were pretty darn selfish, but the fact that she recognizes this and becomes more and more fearful over the fate of her mother makes it easier to feel sorry for her. Also, while her mother IS trying to train Merida in how to handle the responsibility of ruling a kingdom, Merida's frustration with her situation becomes understandable when Elinor tells her that "a princess strives for... ''perfection''." Merida knows that she is far from being perfect, so dealing with constantly being corrected must be stressful, not to mention rather disheartening.
4th Dec '17 5:37:16 AM UchuuFlamenco
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** Often mockingly compared to ''WesternAnimation/BrotherBear'' courtesy of its harshest critics, which also featured a [[BalefulPolymorph character turning into a bear]] and was similarly met with mixed feelings from audiences.

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** Often mockingly compared to ''WesternAnimation/BrotherBear'' ''Disney/BrotherBear'' courtesy of its harshest critics, which also featured a [[BalefulPolymorph character turning into a bear]] and was similarly met with mixed feelings from audiences.
28th Nov '17 4:58:15 PM thetoonamirose
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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her BayfulPolymorph, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.

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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her BayfulPolymorph, unwanted transformation, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.CharacterDevelopment.



%%** Queen Elinor on the opposite scale, see InternetBackdraft below.
28th Nov '17 4:57:39 PM thetoonamirose
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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge {{The|}}Woobie dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.

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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge {{The|}}Woobie [[TheWoobie woobie]] dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter, BrattyTeenageDaughter on top of her BayfulPolymorph, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.
28th Nov '17 4:56:54 PM thetoonamirose
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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge {{The}}Woobie dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.

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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge {{The}}Woobie {{The|}}Woobie dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.
28th Nov '17 4:56:39 PM thetoonamirose
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** Elinor on the flipside too, fans who didn't like Merida see her as a huge {{The}}Woobie dealing with a BrattyTeenageDaughter, others saw her as the one in the wrong and keeping Merida down for being so over[[JustforPun bear]]ing to her before her transformation.
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