History YMMV / BlazBlueChronoPhantasma

15th Jun '16 8:50:06 PM Angeldeb82
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** ''Extend'' also adds some additional clarification to come dropped plot threads from the vanilla version. Namely what happened to Bullet's squad. [[spoiler: they were hired by Sector 7 to retrieve Nirvana, but ran into Azrael and were all slaughtered.]]

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** ''Extend'' also adds some additional clarification to come dropped plot threads from the vanilla version. Namely what happened to Bullet's squad. [[spoiler: they They were hired by Sector 7 to retrieve Nirvana, but ran into Azrael and were all slaughtered.]]



*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its either really [[MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]]. That said, the flames have cooled a bit since the [[VideoGame/BlazblueCentralFiction next game]] [[spoiler: shows he's very much alive, albeit on borrowed time because of Hakumen's attack]]

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*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its It's either really [[MomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]]. {{anti|ClimaxBoss}}climactic. That said, the flames have cooled a bit since the [[VideoGame/BlazblueCentralFiction [[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction next game]] [[spoiler: shows he's very much alive, albeit on borrowed time because of Hakumen's attack]]



** [[NiceGirl Celica A. Mercury]] as well. Reading of the Phase Shift novels aside, those who like her find her sunny attitude and cute demeanor enjoyable, whereas her detractors consider her an unbearable MarySue who everyone speaks highly of and cares for, seems to completely dominate Ragna's character and story development and generally acts too foolish even in serious scenes. Her becoming a playable character has only fanned the flames.

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** [[NiceGirl [[NiceGuy Celica A. Mercury]] as well. Reading of the Phase Shift novels aside, those who like her find her sunny attitude and cute demeanor enjoyable, whereas her detractors consider her an unbearable MarySue Mary Sue who everyone speaks highly of and cares for, seems to completely dominate Ragna's character and story development and generally acts too foolish even in serious scenes. Her becoming a playable character has only fanned the flames.



** Terumi's [[http://youtu.be/ENFUaHuCz5M?t=2m22s maniacal laugh]] has become one in it's own right.

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** Terumi's [[http://youtu.be/ENFUaHuCz5M?t=2m22s maniacal laugh]] has become one in it's its own right.



** Mu and Izayoi also qualify, [[PlayingWithATrope sort of.]] In story mode they're treated as {{Super Mode}}s for Noel and Tsubaki respectively, whom both get plenty of spotlight as it is. However, while both girls get enormous CharacterDevelopment to attain these forms, they're actually very underutilized and you only get to use them in one fight each. [[spoiler:Mu shows up a good portion into the story, and Noel only uses it to fight Nu (she loses), open an invisible door, and fight a berserk Ragna off-screen (which is another loss). Izayoi shows up even later than Mu does, and after Tsubaki gains control over the form the only thing she does with it is fight Carl. Although Izayoi might fare a bit better since Tsubaki is going to attempt to kill Ragna with it after he injured Jin and Noel. Should she or Jin fail to do so, Tsubaki will use it to kill Rachel as per her request.]]

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** Mu and Izayoi also qualify, [[PlayingWithATrope sort of.]] of]]. In story mode they're treated as {{Super Mode}}s for Noel and Tsubaki respectively, whom both get plenty of spotlight as it is. However, while both girls get enormous CharacterDevelopment to attain these forms, they're actually very underutilized and you only get to use them in one fight each. [[spoiler:Mu shows up a good portion into the story, and Noel only uses it to fight Nu (she loses), open an invisible door, and fight a berserk Ragna off-screen (which is another loss). Izayoi shows up even later than Mu does, and after Tsubaki gains control over the form the only thing she does with it is fight Carl. Although Izayoi might fare a bit better since Tsubaki is going to attempt to kill Ragna with it after he injured Jin and Noel. Should she or Jin fail to do so, Tsubaki will use it to kill Rachel as per her request.]]



** Azrael's ending has both him and Ragna unleash their full power and go all out against the other. Now while Ragna does fight Azrael in the main story mode, he chooses to restrain the Azure Grimoire and not fight all out showing a [[CharacterDevelopment major growth in his character.]] Azrael then turns his attention to Kagura before being sealed away again, and his PowerLimiter isn't even mentioned. While Ragna did grow as a character from not using the grimoire, how amazing would it have been to have an Unlimited Ragna vs. Unlimited Azrael fight.

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** Azrael's ending has both him and Ragna unleash their full power and go all out against the other. Now while Ragna does fight Azrael in the main story mode, he chooses to restrain the Azure Grimoire and not fight all out showing a [[CharacterDevelopment major growth in his character.]] character]]. Azrael then turns his attention to Kagura before being sealed away again, and his PowerLimiter isn't even mentioned. While Ragna did grow as a character from not using the grimoire, how amazing would it have been to have an Unlimited Ragna vs. Unlimited Azrael fight.
26th May '16 7:43:03 AM BlackYakuzu94
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*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its either really [[MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]].

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*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its either really [[MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]]. That said, the flames have cooled a bit since the [[VideoGame/BlazblueCentralFiction next game]] [[spoiler: shows he's very much alive, albeit on borrowed time because of Hakumen's attack]]
8th Apr '16 7:41:14 AM CerotechOmega
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*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its either really [[MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]]

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*** And the decision to [[spoiler: kill off Terumi]]. Not so much that it was done, because he definitely had it coming, but the method in how it happened and who did it, with many feeling it should have been [[TheHero Ragna]]. [[spoiler: Hakumen engages Terumi(Now separate from Hazama) in the True Ending, and with some help from Trinity, kills him with a never before seen technique.]] Its either really [[MomentOfAwesome awesome]] or really [[AntiClimaxBoss anticlimactic]]anticlimactic]].



* MoralEventHorizon: Just in case you were thinking Imperator Librarius might be misguided in some fashion, or that Terumi and/or Relius didn't fly across the line in an earlier game, [[spoiler:the three of them open every cauldron in the world for the sake of disintegrating every living being on earth and using their souls to summon - and slay - the Master Unit. Everyone who was terminally corrupted by the time Kushinada's Lynchpin activates dies anyway and gets absorbed into the Embryo instead, which the Imperator, now outed as Hades: Izanami, evoked from the remains of Take-Mikazuchi. Not one of them had any remorse over this heinous act.]] The fact Litchi helped on this can be seen as one for her too.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Just in case you were thinking Imperator Librarius might be misguided in some fashion, or that Terumi and/or Relius didn't fly across the line in an earlier game, [[spoiler:the three of them open every cauldron in the world for the sake of disintegrating every living being on earth and using their souls to summon - and slay - the Master Unit. Everyone who was terminally corrupted by the time Kushinada's Lynchpin activates dies anyway and gets absorbed into the Embryo instead, which the Imperator, now outed as Hades: Izanami, evoked from the remains of Take-Mikazuchi. Not one of them had any remorse over this heinous act.]] The fact Litchi helped on this can be seen as one for her too.]]
16th Feb '16 10:54:57 PM followerofcake
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** The nixing of the individual character routes has led to some debates; some like the more streamlined experience, while others feel that the cast suffer from OutOfFocus as a result, particularly the newcomers(See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below)

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** The nixing of the individual character routes has led to some debates; some like the more streamlined experience, while others feel that the cast suffer from OutOfFocus as a result, particularly the newcomers(See newcomers (see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter below)below).



** Celica A. Mercury as well. Reading of the Phase Shift novels aside, those who like her find her sunny attitude and cute demeanor enjoyable, whereas her detractors consider her an unbearable MarySue who everyone speaks highly of and cares for, seems to completely dominate Ragna's character and story development and generally acts too foolish even in serious scenes. Her becoming a playable character has only fanned the flames.

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** [[NiceGirl Celica A. Mercury Mercury]] as well. Reading of the Phase Shift novels aside, those who like her find her sunny attitude and cute demeanor enjoyable, whereas her detractors consider her an unbearable MarySue who everyone speaks highly of and cares for, seems to completely dominate Ragna's character and story development and generally acts too foolish even in serious scenes. Her becoming a playable character has only fanned the flames.



** Mu-12 and Izayoi also qualify, [[PlayingWithATrope sort of.]] In story mode they're treated as {{Super Mode}}s for Noel and Tsubaki respectively, whom both get plenty of spotlight as it is. However, while both girls get enormous CharacterDevelopment to attain these forms, they're actually very underutilized and you only get to use them in one fight each. [[spoiler:Mu shows up a good portion into the story, and Noel only uses it to fight Nu (she loses), open an invisible door, and fight a berserk Ragna off-screen (which is another loss). Izayoi shows up even later than Mu does, and after Tsubaki gains control over the form the only thing she does with it is fight Carl. Although Izayoi might fare a bit better since Tsubaki is going to attempt to kill Ragna with it after he injured Jin and Noel. Should she or Jin fail to do so, Tsubaki will use it to kill Rachel as per her request.]]

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** Mu-12 Mu and Izayoi also qualify, [[PlayingWithATrope sort of.]] In story mode they're treated as {{Super Mode}}s for Noel and Tsubaki respectively, whom both get plenty of spotlight as it is. However, while both girls get enormous CharacterDevelopment to attain these forms, they're actually very underutilized and you only get to use them in one fight each. [[spoiler:Mu shows up a good portion into the story, and Noel only uses it to fight Nu (she loses), open an invisible door, and fight a berserk Ragna off-screen (which is another loss). Izayoi shows up even later than Mu does, and after Tsubaki gains control over the form the only thing she does with it is fight Carl. Although Izayoi might fare a bit better since Tsubaki is going to attempt to kill Ragna with it after he injured Jin and Noel. Should she or Jin fail to do so, Tsubaki will use it to kill Rachel as per her request.]]
5th Dec '15 7:54:23 PM Austin
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** [[HandsomeLech Kagura Mutsuki]], although to a much lesser extent than Celica. Some love his laid-back yet genuinely helpful personality and his efforts towards trying to fight the corruption within the series. Others hate him for, similar to Celica, [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking screentime away from other established characters]] and find his perverseness obnoxious and a case of DudeNotFunny!.

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** [[HandsomeLech Kagura Mutsuki]], although to a much lesser extent than Celica. Some love his laid-back yet genuinely helpful personality and his efforts towards trying to fight the corruption within the series. Others hate him for, similar to Celica, [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking screentime away from other established characters]] and find his perverseness obnoxious and a case of DudeNotFunny!.DudeNotFunny.
27th Nov '15 9:18:30 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* CreatorsPet: What many Celica haters accuse her of being. Ignoring her haphazard introduction, she is pretty much tied to Ragna's waste for a majority of the game which means she plays a major role in the plot [[SpotlightStealingSquad to the exclusion of other characters.]] Ragna draws a significant portion of his CharacterDevelopment in this game from her, and the cast pretty much dotes over her completely. To add salt into the wound, she becomes a playable character later on despite being an ActualPacifist with no killing intent or fighting capability, she has a robot specifically made for her to do the fighting. That said, this is mostly a case of AmericansHateTingle as she's fairly popular over in Blazblue's home country.

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* CreatorsPet: What many Celica haters accuse her of being. Ignoring her haphazard introduction, she is pretty much tied to Ragna's waste waist for a majority of the game which means she plays a major role in the plot [[SpotlightStealingSquad to the exclusion of other characters.]] Ragna draws a significant portion of his CharacterDevelopment in this game from her, and the cast pretty much dotes over her completely. To add salt into the wound, she becomes a playable character later on despite being an ActualPacifist with no killing intent or fighting capability, she has a robot specifically made for her to do the fighting. That said, this is mostly a case of AmericansHateTingle as she's fairly popular over in Blazblue's home country.
27th Nov '15 9:17:07 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* [[HandsomeLech Kagura Mutsuki]], although to a much lesser extent than Celica. Some love his laid-back yet genuinely helpful personality and his efforts towards trying to fight the corruption within the series. Others hate him for, similar to Celica, [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking screentime away from other established characters]] and find his perverseness obnoxious and a case of DudeNotFunny!.

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* ** [[HandsomeLech Kagura Mutsuki]], although to a much lesser extent than Celica. Some love his laid-back yet genuinely helpful personality and his efforts towards trying to fight the corruption within the series. Others hate him for, similar to Celica, [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking screentime away from other established characters]] and find his perverseness obnoxious and a case of DudeNotFunny!.
27th Nov '15 9:16:40 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* BlackHoleSue: What Celica's detractors accuse her of, mostly. It don't helps that she literally projects a field just by living that sucks all seithr around her, turning Hazama (and Ragna) almost defenseless, making the poster villain of the series and NightmareFuel incarnate almost melt in fear in the presence, of all things, a CuteWitch. And how Kokonoe mandates the protagonist to be around her, she is present to many plot-important moments and Ragna ends up drawing motivation from her to drive his CharacterDevelopment. Also, [[ArsonMurderandJayWalking she kicks Jin when he acts like an jerk]], that is more than can be said about many other characters.


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* [[HandsomeLech Kagura Mutsuki]], although to a much lesser extent than Celica. Some love his laid-back yet genuinely helpful personality and his efforts towards trying to fight the corruption within the series. Others hate him for, similar to Celica, [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking screentime away from other established characters]] and find his perverseness obnoxious and a case of DudeNotFunny!.


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* CreatorsPet: What many Celica haters accuse her of being. Ignoring her haphazard introduction, she is pretty much tied to Ragna's waste for a majority of the game which means she plays a major role in the plot [[SpotlightStealingSquad to the exclusion of other characters.]] Ragna draws a significant portion of his CharacterDevelopment in this game from her, and the cast pretty much dotes over her completely. To add salt into the wound, she becomes a playable character later on despite being an ActualPacifist with no killing intent or fighting capability, she has a robot specifically made for her to do the fighting. That said, this is mostly a case of AmericansHateTingle as she's fairly popular over in Blazblue's home country.
19th Nov '15 7:08:16 PM Soarel
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* ReplacementScrappy: A lot of fans think that Hades Izanami is just a GenericDoomsdayVillain who wants simply to kill everybody "because she's the goddess of death" compared to a nihilistic, sadistic psychopath who loves to watch others in pain, and an amoral MadScientist who wants to be the god of a perfect world.
10th Nov '15 9:10:27 PM BlackYakuzu94
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* MostAnnoyingSound: [[spoiler: The cries of joy when the three TrueCompanions are reuinited[[note]]Noel, Makoto, and Tsubaki[[/note]]]]
** Pretty much all of Celica's in-battle lines. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Every. Single. One.]]
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