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* GeniusBonus: The premise of Nina struggling her MadonnaWhoreComplex is very reminiscent to one of the scholarly interpretations of the ''Theatre/SwanLake'' ballet opera. In the opera, the Prince falls in love with the White Swan because of her purity, but was allured by the Black Swan's seduction (an imposer in disguise actually). That both the swans are traditionally played by the [[ActingforTwo same dancer]] helps enforce the theme.
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* GeniusBonus: The premise of Nina struggling her MadonnaWhoreComplex is very reminiscent to one of the scholarly interpretations of the ''Theatre/SwanLake'' ballet opera. In the opera, the Prince falls in love with the White Swan because of her purity, but was allured by the Black Swan's seduction (an imposer in disguise actually). That The fact that both the swans are traditionally played by the [[ActingforTwo same dancer]] helps enforce the theme.
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* GeniusBonus: The premise of Nina struggling her MadonnaWhoreComplex is very reminiscent to one of the scholarly interpretations of the ''Theatre/SwanLake'' ballet opera. In the opera, the Prince falls in love with the White Swan because of her purity, but was allure by the Black Swan's seduction (an imposer in disguise actually). Both the swans were traditionally played by the [[ActingforTwo same dancer]] helps enforce the theme.
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* GeniusBonus: The premise of Nina struggling her MadonnaWhoreComplex is very reminiscent to one of the scholarly interpretations of the ''Theatre/SwanLake'' ballet opera. In the opera, the Prince falls in love with the White Swan because of her purity, but was allure allured by the Black Swan's seduction (an imposer in disguise actually). Both That both the swans were are traditionally played by the [[ActingforTwo same dancer]] helps enforce the theme.
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* JerkassWoobie: Beth. Nina toward the end.
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** Beth is rude and mean to everyone she meets, and clearly has a drinking problem. But it's obvious she's heartbroken about being replaced in the lead role - as it means her GloryDays are officially over. And then she gets into a car accident - which gives the possibility of her never dancing again. If Thomas treated her the same way he treated Nina, then it increases her woobie status.
** Ninatoward herself goes off the end.deep end as the film goes on - becoming increasingly paranoid and a bit full of herself. It's not even until the last few minutes of the film that we get confirmation [[spoiler: she hasn't actually killed anyone]]. But given the huge amount of pressure she's under and the difficult relationship with her mother, her behavior is very understandable.
** Beth is rude and mean to everyone she meets, and clearly has a drinking problem. But it's obvious she's heartbroken about being replaced in the lead role - as it means her GloryDays are officially over. And then she gets into a car accident - which gives the possibility of her never dancing again. If Thomas treated her the same way he treated Nina, then it increases her woobie status.
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* MisaimedFandom: There is a small group of people who view Nina as "thinspiration", in spite of the fact that her implied eating disorder is ''not'' meant to be positive.
** She's literally shown ''making herself throw up'' at one point.
* {{Narm}}/WhatTheHellCastingAgency: Nina seeing doppelgängers of herself everywhere might not come across as very disturbing and might make you think that’s [[IdenticalStranger just]] Creator/KeiraKnightley.
** She's literally shown ''making herself throw up'' at one point.
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* ShoutOut: It’s unclear if it was intentional (hence YMMV), but the scene where Nina flips out, destroys her room and throws out her stuffed animals - in addition to struggling with a MadonnaWhoreComplex and becoming (or trying to become) ADarkerMe - is reminiscent of the scene in Film/BatmanReturns where Selina Kyle becomes Catwoman.
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* ShoutOut: It’s unclear if it was intentional (hence YMMV), but the scene where Nina flips out, destroys her room and throws out her stuffed animals - in addition to struggling with a MadonnaWhoreComplex and becoming (or trying to become) ADarkerMe - is reminiscent of the scene in Film/BatmanReturns ''Film/BatmanReturns'' where Selina Kyle becomes Catwoman.
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** Poor Nina. Sexually repressed, emotionally stunted, self-abusing, smothered by her mother, suffering from an apparent eating disorder, and, oh yeah, she's also ''completely batshitinsane''!insane''!
** Lily if you think about it too. She's new in town and seems friendly enough, but none of the other dancers pay her much attention. She tries to be friends with Nina and get accused of trying to steal her spotlight. [[spoiler: It turns out she didn't and if she did, she was a GracefulLoser about it. She also thinks she'll be getting to dance the lead role in ''Swan Lake'' - only to have the opportunity taken away at the last minute]].
** Poor Nina. Sexually repressed, emotionally stunted, self-abusing, smothered by her mother, suffering from an apparent eating disorder, and, oh yeah, she's also ''completely batshit
** Lily if you think about it too. She's new in town and seems friendly enough, but none of the other dancers pay her much attention. She tries to be friends with Nina and get accused of trying to steal her spotlight. [[spoiler: It turns out she didn't and if she did, she was a GracefulLoser about it. She also thinks she'll be getting to dance the lead role in ''Swan Lake'' - only to have the opportunity taken away at the last minute]].
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* MagnificentBastard: One interpretation of Thomas.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Or at least, Creator/MilaKunis makes out with Creator/NataliePortman and goes down on her body double. As Natalie Portman [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/29/this-weeks-cover-the-oscar-race-is-on/ put it]]: "Everyone was so worried about who was going to want to see this movie. I remember them being like, ‘How do you get guys to a ballet movie? How do you get girls to a thriller?’ And the answer is a lesbian scene. ''Everyone'' [[GirlOnGirlIsHot wants to see that]]."
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** Under the influence of an abusive or at the least unscrupulous mentor, a talented but troubled person obsesses over becoming perfect for their role by immersing themselves in their 'darker' side. However, they find themselves feeling increasingly torn between their two 'selves', becoming prone to lashing out in anger and distress, clashing with their co-workers, alienating themselves from their family and developing an odd bond with a rival they aren't completely sure about. They end up trying to destroy everything about their old, 'weak' self to embrace their new self with...mixed results, at one point even shrieking at their parent that their old self is "[[ThatManIsDead dead]]" following a violent confrontation. Finally, they end their tale [[spoiler: on the ground, bleeding out from a wound to the side, having given their all to their role]]. Now, are we talking about Nina Sayers or [[Film/StarWarsTheForceAwakens Kylo Ren]]? (Portman having previously portrayed Padme Amidala in ''Star Wars'', who turns out to be [[spoiler: Kylo's grandma]]).
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lily's pretty popular, mainly because she's played by Creator/MilaKunis and has some [[HoYay Les Yay]] with Nina. Also may have something to do with the fact that she's one of the few genuinely friendly, nice, ''sane'' individuals in the movie.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright {{Fix Fic}}s where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright {{Fix Fic}}s where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lily's pretty popular, mainly because she's played by Creator/MilaKunis and has some [[HoYay Les Yay]] HomoeroticSubtext with Nina. Also may have something to do with the fact that she's one of the few genuinely friendly, nice, ''sane'' individuals in the movie.
* FanPreferredCouple:Nina / Lily.Nina/Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright {{Fix Fic}}s where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: What most people are talking about in regards to the movie, sadly. Played straight or subverted, depending on if you think that Lily really is coming on to Nina or if Nina is just projecting her repressed urges onto the more adventurous woman. That said, Nina ''does'' have an EroticDream about Lily, and when Lily finds out about it, she doesn't appear to mind -- if anything, she seems downright flattered.
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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: What most people are talking about in regards to the movie, sadly. Played straight or subverted, depending on if you think that Lily really is coming on to Nina or if Nina is just projecting her repressed urges onto the more adventurous woman. That said, Nina ''does'' have an EroticDream about Lily, and when Lily finds out about it, she doesn't appear to mind -- if anything, she seems downright flattered.
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Film/JacobsLadder'' with ballerinas.
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* ShoutOut: It’s unclear if it was intentional (hence YMMV), but the scene where Nina flips out, destroys her room and throws out her stuffed animals - in addition to struggling with a MadonnaWhoreComplex and becoming (or trying to become) ADarkerMe - is reminiscent of the scene in Film/BatmanReturns where Selina Kyle becomes Catwoman.
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** Thomas watching Nina's dance rehearsal and noting her lack of seductiveness, asks her dance partner "Would you fuck that girl?" He just laughs, indicating no. The dance partner is played by Natalie Portman's choreographer Benjamin Millepied, with whom she began a RomanceOnTheSet. They are now married and have a child together. Portman addressed this in her Golden Globe acceptance speech: "He's the best actor! It's not true! He totally wants to sleep with me!"
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** Thomas watching Nina's dance rehearsal and noting her lack of seductiveness, asks her dance partner "Would you fuck that girl?" He just laughs, indicating no. The dance partner is played by Natalie Portman's choreographer Benjamin Millepied, with whom she began a RomanceOnTheSet. They are now married and have a child two children together. Portman addressed this in her Golden Globe acceptance speech: "He's the best actor! It's not true! He totally wants to sleep with me!"
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** Exactly how much of Erica's abuse is all in Nina's head? Erica is certainly a stern parent, but she does encourage Nina to do well and is genuinely pleased for her daughter when she succeeds. The only time she intervenes is when Nina is rightfully losing her mind. Note the cake scene - Erica spends hours making a celebratory cake for her daughter, who turns it down (one cake won't turn her into a blimp, and she can easily lose any water weight through practices). But then again, Nina seems to be afraid of her and Erica does like controlling her daughter. It's possible she(intentionally or not)bullied Nina into the eating disorder that's hinted at, qualifying for psychological abuse at least. Her self-destructive tendencies and unsuccessful sexual repression put the squicky possibility of rape on the table too.
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** Exactly how much of Erica's abuse is all in Nina's head? Erica is certainly a stern parent, but she does encourage Nina to do well and is genuinely pleased for her daughter when she succeeds. The only time she intervenes is when Nina is rightfully losing her mind. Note the cake scene - Erica spends hours making a celebratory cake for her daughter, who turns it down (one cake won't turn her into a blimp, and she can easily lose any water weight through practices). But then again, Nina seems to be afraid of her and Erica does like controlling her daughter. It's possible she(intentionally she (intentionally or not)bullied not) bullied Nina into the eating disorder that's hinted at, qualifying for psychological abuse at least. Her self-destructive tendencies and unsuccessful sexual repression put the squicky possibility of rape on the table too.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lily's pretty popular, mainly because she's played by Creator/MilaKunis and has some LesYay with Nina. Also may have something to do with the fact that she's one of the few genuinely friendly, nice, ''sane'' individuals in the movie.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright [[FixFic Fix Fics]] where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright [[FixFic Fix Fics]] where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Lily's pretty popular, mainly because she's played by Creator/MilaKunis and has some LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] with Nina. Also may have something to do with the fact that she's one of the few genuinely friendly, nice, ''sane'' individuals in the movie.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright[[FixFic Fix Fics]] {{Fix Fic}}s where Nina's not batshit, and she and Lily are a happy, cute couple.
* FanPreferredCouple: Nina / Lily. There's many a fic that has Nina surviving the end of the film and starting on the road to recovery, Lily at her side. Or just outright
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* LesYay: [[HoYay Les Yay]]: What most people are talking about in regards to the movie, sadly. Played straight or subverted, depending on if you think that Lily really is coming on to Nina or if Nina is just projecting her repressed urges onto the more adventurous woman.
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* SpiritualLicensee: Creator/ChrisStuckmann suggests this is the best western remake of Anime/PerfectBlue we're ever going to get.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Or at least, Mila Kunis makes out with Natalie Portman and goes down on her body double. As Natalie Portman [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/29/this-weeks-cover-the-oscar-race-is-on/ put it]]: "Everyone was so worried about who was going to want to see this movie. I remember them being like, ‘How do you get guys to a ballet movie? How do you get girls to a thriller?’ And the answer is a lesbian scene. ''Everyone'' [[GirlOnGirlIsHot wants to see that]]."
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Or at least, Mila Kunis Creator/MilaKunis makes out with Natalie Portman Creator/NataliePortman and goes down on her body double. As Natalie Portman [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/29/this-weeks-cover-the-oscar-race-is-on/ put it]]: "Everyone was so worried about who was going to want to see this movie. I remember them being like, ‘How do you get guys to a ballet movie? How do you get girls to a thriller?’ And the answer is a lesbian scene. ''Everyone'' [[GirlOnGirlIsHot wants to see that]]."
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* FreudWasRight: Nina could use a few hours on the couch with the good doctor. [[DoubleEntendre No, not doing that!]].
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** Exactly how much of Erica's abuse is all in Nina's head? Erica is certainly a stern parent, but she does encourage Nina to do well and is genuinely pleased for her daughter when she succeeds. The only time she intervenes is when Nina is rightfully losing her mind. Note the cake scene - Erica spends hours making a celebratory cake for her daughter, who turns it down (one cake won't turn her into a blimp, and she can easily lose any water weight through practices). But then again, Nina seems to be afraid of her and Erica does seem to like controlling her daughter.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Or at least, Mila Kunis makes out with Natalie Portman and goes down on her body double. As Natalie Portman [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/29/this-weeks-cover-the-oscar-race-is-on/ put it]]: "Everyone was so worried about who was going to want to see this movie. I remember them being like, ‘How do you get guys to a ballet movie? How do you get girls to a thriller?’ And the answer is a lesbian scene. ''Everyone'' wants to see that."
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Or at least, Mila Kunis makes out with Natalie Portman and goes down on her body double. As Natalie Portman [[http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/29/this-weeks-cover-the-oscar-race-is-on/ put it]]: "Everyone was so worried about who was going to want to see this movie. I remember them being like, ‘How do you get guys to a ballet movie? How do you get girls to a thriller?’ And the answer is a lesbian scene. ''Everyone'' [[GirlOnGirlIsHot wants to see that.that]]."
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* FetishRetardant: Remember that lesbian scene in the trailer? Some people may find it horrifying.
** Any feet enthusiasts hoping for some Foot Focus scenes...[[{{Squick}} well, see below.]]
** Creator/NataliePortman walking around in her panties? Sounds hot, right? Well, except for the fact that she's got only slightly more body fat on her than Creator/ChristianBale in ''Film/TheMachinist''...
** Any feet enthusiasts hoping for some Foot Focus scenes...[[{{Squick}} well, see below.]]
** Creator/NataliePortman walking around in her panties? Sounds hot, right? Well, except for the fact that she's got only slightly more body fat on her than Creator/ChristianBale in ''Film/TheMachinist''...
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** Exactly how much of Erica's abuse is all in Nina's head? Erica is certainly a stern parent, but she does encourage Nina to do well and is genuinely pleased for her daughter when she succeeds. The only time she intervenes is when Nina is rightfully losing her mind. Note the cake scene - Erica spends hours making a celebratory cake for her daughter, who turns it down (one cake won't turn her into a blimp, and she can easily lose any water weight through practices). But then again, Nina seems to be afraid of her and Erica does seem to like controlling her daughter.
** There's evidence that Nina could have a massive victim complex. She assumes that her mother is living vicariously through her and that Lily is trying to replace her - when there's no actual confirmation for either. It's just Nina's paranoid mind telling her this. She never stands up to her mother and allows herself to be babied just so she can play the victim. On the other hand, she is very weak-willed and there are other people who are rude and abusive to her - so it's not surprising that she'd assume everyone else is.
** Regarding Lily, does she have any ulterior motives? Getting the prima ballerina drunk and high when they have practice in the morning certainly raises eyebrows - especially when she's just named as Nina's understudy. On the other hand, Lily is new in the city and clearly wants to make friends. So a night of drinking might be the only way she knows how.
** The ending is hugely subject to this as to whether [[spoiler: Nina actually died. The argument that says she does points to Tomas saying "what did you do?" and a shot of Lily looking horrified, showing that there is clearly some injury. Natalie Portman meanwhile feels that Nina didn't die, and it's merely a symbol of the 'little girl' in her dying. There are a few that have pointed out that Nina would not have been able to dance with such a huge stab wound - meaning that the final performance could have been all in her head too. Or else the wound was not that severe and was only aggravated by the dancing]].
** There's evidence that Nina could have a massive victim complex. She assumes that her mother is living vicariously through her and that Lily is trying to replace her - when there's no actual confirmation for either. It's just Nina's paranoid mind telling her this. She never stands up to her mother and allows herself to be babied just so she can play the victim. On the other hand, she is very weak-willed and there are other people who are rude and abusive to her - so it's not surprising that she'd assume everyone else is.
** Regarding Lily, does she have any ulterior motives? Getting the prima ballerina drunk and high when they have practice in the morning certainly raises eyebrows - especially when she's just named as Nina's understudy. On the other hand, Lily is new in the city and clearly wants to make friends. So a night of drinking might be the only way she knows how.
** The ending is hugely subject to this as to whether [[spoiler: Nina actually died. The argument that says she does points to Tomas saying "what did you do?" and a shot of Lily looking horrified, showing that there is clearly some injury. Natalie Portman meanwhile feels that Nina didn't die, and it's merely a symbol of the 'little girl' in her dying. There are a few that have pointed out that Nina would not have been able to dance with such a huge stab wound - meaning that the final performance could have been all in her head too. Or else the wound was not that severe and was only aggravated by the dancing]].
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* MagnumOpus: Slowly getting this reputation as far as DarrenAronofsky's body of work is concerned, with strong competition from its sibling movie, ''Film/TheWrestler''.
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