History YMMV / BatmanUnderTheRedHood

* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker opens up the film by brutally [[WouldHurtAChild beating the young Jason Todd]], the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, to a bloody pulp with a {{crowbar|Combatant}}, before leaving him to die in an explosion he sets off. After Joker is released by a reluctant Black Mask from Arkham Asylum to kill Red Hood, Joker demonstrates his random violence by [[SlashedThroat slitting the throat]] of one of his guards and shooting the other four dead, and soon after backstabs Black Mask by gagging him and the members of both his and Red Hood's gang, intending to [[ManOnFire burn them all alive]] for the purpose of getting Red Hood's attention. Once it's revealed Red Hood is in fact [[spoiler:a resurrected Jason Todd]] and Batman turns the tides against Red Hood in the final confrontation, Joker tries to pin Batman down for the purpose of dying with both his arch-rival and Red Hood in an exploding building, absolutely ecstatic that he gets to die getting everything he wants.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Many fans prefer the film's explanation for Jason's resurrection [[note]] bathed in the Lazarus Pit [[/note]] over the comic one [[note]] where it was the result of Superboy-Prime essentially ''punching'' reality itself [[/note]], since the film version simplifies things and keeps things condensed to Batman's corner of the DC Universe. Newer versions of Jason's story in the comics borrows from this.

* CrossesTheLineTwice: The Joker, as usual, has a sense of humor that is both depraved and oddly amusing. His reaction to finding out that [[spoiler: Jason Todd]] was behind it all is to ask for a picture of the pair "[[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily with the crowbar]]".

** Crossing over into TearJerker - Red Hood's boast about becoming a better Batman than Bruce becomes harder to swallow after the ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' episode "[[Recap/YoungJusticeS1E22Agendas Agendas]]", where Batman admits that he trained Dick as Robin to ensure that he wouldn't turn out like him.
** Batman's ItGetsEasier rationalization for why he won’t break [[ThouShallNotKill his one rule]] even for someone like the Joker is proven to be true come ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019''. In the latter, we're introduced to a Batman who ''did'' break that rule.. .and indeed, he wasn't able to stop, [[spoiler: ultimately culminating in him '''[[MoralEventHorizon murdering his world's Superman]]'''.]]

** [[spoiler: Jason Todd/Robin II/Red Hood.]] He may be a murderer who straddles the line of AntiHero and AntiVillain, but damn if you don't feel sorry for him and even understand some of what he does.

** The comic itself is somewhat of an ''inversion''. A popular phrase used to be "Nobody stays dead in comics except [[spoiler: [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]], Jason Todd]], and [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Uncle Ben]]". Due to ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaWinterSoldier'' being released the same year, Uncle Ben is now the only one who's ''stayed'' dead[[note]]not counting a very brief time he was resurrected in issue #500 of ComicBook/JMSSpiderMan[[/note]].

* RootingForTheEmpire: [[spoiler: More than a few fans sided with Jason in the film's climax and wanted him to kill the Joker, both to avenge his own torture at the villain's hands and all the Joker's other monstrous crimes. He only crosses the line by trying to force Bruce to do it]]

** The Red Hood is clearly off the deep end and has committed serious crimes, but he still manages to retain a [[NobleDemon moral code]] in his criminal enterprise. [[spoiler: Jason himself says he would never murder the less evil of Batman's Rogue Gallery who haven't crossed any serious lines]]. Killing one extremely monstrous human being doesn't automatically make you a completely evil monster.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Batman claims the reason why he didn't kill the Joker, even after the clown killed his surrogate son, was because [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlop he was afraid of losing his soul]]. However, a lot of people don't exactly sympathize with this reason.

* CatharsisFactor: The ComicBook/RedHood earns RootingForTheEmpire points with his actions. He unleashes a machine gun on Black Mask's drug dealers, aiming a gun at the man in question, and [[spoiler:showing ComicBook/TheJoker exactly what it's like to be beaten up with a crowbar while tied up]]. The last scene is pretty awesome even as it shows Jason has no more compunctions.

* CrossesTheLineTwice: The Joker's reaction to finding out that [[spoiler: Jason Todd]] was behind it all is to ask for a picture of the pair "[[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily with the crowbar]]".

* RootingForTheEmpire: [[spoiler: More than a few fans sided with Jason in the film's climax and wanted him to kill the Joker, both to avenge his own torture at the villain's hands and all the Joker's other monstrous crimes.]]

* WhatAnIdiot: Black Mask displays a serious case of ThirdActStupidity after [[spoiler:he's almost killed by the Red Hood.]]\\
'''You'd Expect''': Black Mask would hire a skilled assassin with a code of honor such as Deathstroke or Deadshot to take out the Red Hood.\\
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:He reluctantly hires [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Joker.]]]]\\
'''Predictably''': [[spoiler:the Joker betrays Black Mask and tries to kill him and his associates, fortunately he's saved by Batman.]]

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Many fans prefer the film's explanation for Jason's resurrection [[note]] bathed in the Lazarus Pit [[/note]] over the comic one [[note]] where it was the result of Superboy-Prime essentially ''punching'' reality itself [[/note]], since the film version simplifies things and keeps things condensed to Batman's corner of the DC Universe.

* BetterThanCanon: Going along with the aforementioned AuthorsSavingThrow, many fans prefer this version's portrayal of Jason's resurrection over the comic book. Some have gone as far as to consider it canon.

-->'''Batman:''' It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by when I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others and then... end him. [...] But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place, I'll never come back.

** Crossing over into TearJerker - Red Hood's boast about becoming a better Batman than Bruce becomes harder to swallow after the ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' episode [[Recap/YoungJusticeS1E22Agendas Agendas]], where Batman admits that he trained Dick as Robin to ensure that he wouldn't turn out like him.

* BetterThanCanon: Going along with the aforementioned AuthorsSavingThrow, many fans prefer this version's portrayal of Jason's resurrection over the comic book. Some have gone as far as to consider it canon.

* WhatAnIdiot: Black Mask displays a serious case of ThirdActStupidity after [[spoiler:he's almost killed by the Red Hood.]]
'''You'd Expect''': Black Mask would hire a skilled assassin with a code of honor such as Deathstroke or Deadshot to take out the Red Hood.
'''Instead''': [[spoiler:He reluctantly hires [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder the Joker.]]

* BetterThanCanon: Going along with the aforementioned AuthorsSavingThrow, many fans prefer this version's portrayal of Jason's resurrection over the comic book. Some have gone as far as to [[Fanon consider it canon.]]

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[spoiler:Among the names Jason lists of the villains who he's ''not'' asking Bruce to kill is ComicBook/TwoFace. The follow-up film, ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseBatmanDeathInTheFamily'', confirms that like in ComicBook/PostCrisis comics, Harvey killed Jason's dad, so he is stating he's not asking Bruce to kill his father's murderer.]]

* FoeYay: ComicBook/TheJoker interrupting Batman's TearJerker speech by saying "aw, so you ''do'' think about me!" In the Joker's typically disturbing fashion, he says this while Batman is saying that [[spoiler:not a day goes by where he doesn't think about killing the Joker]].

* CatharsisFactor: The Red Hood earns RootingForTheEmpire points with his actions. He unleashes a machine gun on Black Mask's drug dealers, aiming a gun at the man in question, and [[spoiler:showing the Joker exactly what it's like to be beaten up with a crowbar while tied up]]. The last scene is pretty awesome even as it shows Jason has no more compunctions.

** Nightwing as depicted here is a DeadpanSnarker played by Creator/NeilPatrickHarris, and his comparatively diminished role hasn't made the fans love him any less.

** Ms. Li is also quite popular for being a ComicallySerious {{foil}} to the LaughablyEvil LargeHam Black Mask, as well as being voiced by Creator/KellyHu .
* FoeYay: The Joker interrupting Batman's TearJerker speech by saying "aw, so you ''do'' think about me!" In the Joker's typically disturbing fashion, he says this while Batman is saying that [[spoiler:not a day goes by where he doesn't think about killing the Joker]].

** Batman's ItGetsEasier rationalization for why he won’t break [[ThouShallNotKill his one rule]] even for someone like the Joker is proven to be true come ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019''. In the latter, we're introduced to a Batman who ''did'' break that rule...and indeed, he wasn't able to stop, [[spoiler: ultimately culminating in him '''[[MoralEventHorizon murdering his world's Superman]]'''.]]

** Many a fan doubted that Creator/JohnDiMaggio could pull off the Joker, but once they actually saw the movie, they quickly changed their minds.

* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:A resurrected Jason Todd, the second Robin, is the Red Hood.]] For comic book fans, this is common knowledge and the film barely tries to treat it as a genuine mystery for long.

** Ra's al Ghul. Despite his being a ruthless supervillain who, as Batman says, has never shied away from shedding blood, his deep remorse and sorrow over [[spoiler:Jason's fate, resurrection, and subsequent rampage]] are clearly heartfelt and genuine.

* OneSceneWonder: [[Comicbook/RasAlGhul Talia]] appears only briefly, EvilIsSexy as always and wielding a [[CoolGuns Luger]].

** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him (though he's one year ''younger'' than Kevin Conroy). He would later reprise the role for ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like in the comic, Red Hood raises good points behind Batman's refusal to kill the Joker. Not only will Batman not kill him, but he's stopped other heroes and villains from killing him, even though the Joker has killed thousands and will kill thousands more in the future. While Batman defends that he ''does'' think about killing Joker and doesn't because he's worried about JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, it's willful ignorance on his part -- most other members of his Rogues Gallery have temporarily reformed before, or at least there is a real chance they'll reform someday, but the Joker never will and everyone knows it. If there is ''one'' time where Batman could break his code, and people in-universe and out would understand why, it's the Joker, and Batman's argument on why he shouldn't is much weaker than Red Hood's arguments on why he should.

** Thanks to some of choices allowed in the follow-up ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseBatmanDeathInTheFamly'', [[spoiler:Jason can make good on his comment about killing Joker if he'd killed Bruce as the "Batman saves Jason" paths do show Bruce being killed by the bomb instead of Jason.]]

** Thanks to some of choices allowed in ''WesternAnimation/DCShowcaseDeathInTheFamly'', [[spoiler:Jason can make good on his comment about killing Joker if he'd killed Bruce as the "Batman saves Jason" paths do show Bruce being killed by the bomb instead of Jason.]]

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Even though Red Hood is revealed to be [[spoiler:Jason Todd]] and thus someone with a very personal connection to [[spoiler:the entire Bat-Family, he never interacts with either Nightwing or Alfred despite both being in the movie, and the latter in-particular taking news of Jason's resurrection and fall to villainy almost as badly as Bruce does.]]

* HarsherInHindsight: Batman's ItGetsEasier rationalization for why he won’t break [[ThouShallNotKill his one rule]] even for someone like the Joker is proven to be true come ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019''. In the latter, we're introduced to a Batman who ''did'' break that rule...and indeed, he wasn't able to stop, [[spoiler: ultimately culminating in him '''[[MoralEventHorizon murdering his world's Superman]]'''.]]

* SignatureScene: The final confrontation between Batman, Joker and Red Hood, given how memed it was by the fanbase.

** Reactions to Creator/JohnDiMaggio's casting as Joker were... mixed, to say the least. The release of the character models featuring a burlier-than-usual Joker eased concerns somewhat. And then the film was released and a lot of those who doubted he could pull off the role did a complete 180.

* JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: Jason Todd/Robin II/Red Hood.]] He may be a murderer who straddles the line of AntiHero and AntiVillain, but damn if you don't feel sorry for him and even understand some of what he does.

* MemeticMutation: Variations of this piece of dialogue, swapping out Batman, Jason and Joker for other characters/parties:
--> '''Jason Todd:''' Bruce, I forgive you for not saving me. But why, why on God's Earth...is he [Joker] still alive?!

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: this animated version of Batman is very violent to be for kids, being compared to the movie Dark Knight.

* MagnificentBastard: Jason Todd, after his death at the hands of ComicBook/TheJoker and his revival, becomes a much darker figure. Becoming the ComicBook/RedHood, Jason sets about on his revenge, manipulating Batman, Gotham's criminal enterprises and even the League of Assassins to engineer conflicts to bring him close to the Joker and Batman. Confronting his former mentor, Jason reveals his deep bitterness at the Joker's survival, declaring he believed he would be the last person Batman ever let the Joker hurt. With a manipulative genius to rival even Batman and a hunger to see his own brutal justice enacted, Jason shows he is more than a match for the world's greatest Detective.