History YMMV / BatmanUnderTheRedHood

12th Sep '17 9:17:07 PM Awesomekid42
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Red Hood tossing a gun to Batman and telling him to shoot Joker.
9th Jun '17 8:55:28 AM MyLittleXero
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like in the comic, Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity the Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill thousands. And the fact that it's a logical fallacy to say killing the Joker would make Batman accept killing any criminal, when Joker has been the one villain who has never shown ''any'' capability of possible redemption in any form, unlike the rest of the Rogues Gallery. He's also right about Batman not being able to stop crime -- how long has Batman been trying without any success? And sometimes he even manages to make it worse. Last but not least, he's right about Bruce not loving him enough to kill the Joker -- Bruce was absolutely ready to kill Alexander Luthor Jr. when he thought the latter had killed Dick Grayson, and was only ''just'' stopped.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like in the comic, Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity the Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill thousands. And the fact that it's a logical fallacy to say killing the Joker would make Batman accept killing any criminal, when Joker has been the one villain who has never shown ''any'' capability of possible redemption in any form, unlike the rest of the Rogues Gallery. He's also right about Batman not being able to stop crime -- how long has Batman been trying without any success? And sometimes he even manages to make it worse. Last but not least, he's right about Bruce not loving him enough to kill the Joker -- Bruce was absolutely ready to kill Alexander Luthor Jr. when he thought the latter had killed Dick Grayson, and was only ''just'' stopped.
1st Jun '17 1:02:55 PM JRads47
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* BetterThanCanon: An amazing case. Not only do many fans like this version of the story better than in the comics, Judd Winick, who wrote both the original comics story and this movie, [[CreatorPreferredAdaptation considers the movie the better version]]. A WordOfGod example.
29th May '17 7:28:37 PM magnum12
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* BetterThanCanon: An amazing case. Not only do many fans like this version of the story better than in the comics, Judd Winick, who wrote both the original comics story and this movie, [[CreatorPreferredAdaptation considers the movie the better version]].
4th Apr '17 6:02:24 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like in the comic, Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity the Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill thousands. And the fact that it's a logical fallacy to say killing the Joker would make Batman accept killing any criminal, when Joker has been the one villain who has never shown ''any'' capability of possible redemption in any form, unlike the rest of the Rogues Gallery. He's also right about Batman not being able to stop crime -- how long has Batman been trying without any success? And sometimes he even manages to make it worse.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like in the comic, Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity the Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill thousands. And the fact that it's a logical fallacy to say killing the Joker would make Batman accept killing any criminal, when Joker has been the one villain who has never shown ''any'' capability of possible redemption in any form, unlike the rest of the Rogues Gallery. He's also right about Batman not being able to stop crime -- how long has Batman been trying without any success? And sometimes he even manages to make it worse. Last but not least, he's right about Bruce not loving him enough to kill the Joker -- Bruce was absolutely ready to kill Alexander Luthor Jr. when he thought the latter had killed Dick Grayson, and was only ''just'' stopped.
27th Jan '17 2:24:26 AM Anicomicgeek
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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him. Greenwood would later reprise the role for ''Series/YoungJustice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.

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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him. Greenwood would later reprise the role for ''Series/YoungJustice'' ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.
2nd Nov '16 3:34:35 PM Tork
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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him. Greenwood would later reprise the role for ''Series/Young Justice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.

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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him. Greenwood would later reprise the role for ''Series/Young Justice'' ''Series/YoungJustice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.
2nd Nov '16 3:33:39 PM Tork
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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him.

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** And anyone other than Creator/KevinConroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Creator/BruceGreenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who's supposed to be a little older than we normally see him. Greenwood would later reprise the role for ''Series/Young Justice'' where he recieved even more praise as a Batman who's decidedly a very good and encouraging mentor.
23rd Oct '16 2:32:48 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker is once again presented as an AxCrazy psychopath. He beats Batman's ''15-year-old'' sidekick Jason Todd with a crowbar, leaves him broken and battered in a warehouse and then proceeds to blow up the warehouse. Later in the film, Joker kills four of Black Mask's mooks for no reason, after Black Mask (very reluctantly) freed Joker from Arkham. Joker then attempts to kill both the Red Hood's and Black Mask's gangs by covering them with gasoline and using a lighter to try to set them on fire. Also throughout the movie, Joker taunts Batman about Jason's death.

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker is once again presented defines himself as an AxCrazy psychopath. He beats Batman's ''15-year-old'' sidekick a {{sadist}}ic lunatic. Joker opens up the film by brutally beating the [[WouldHurtAChild young Jason Todd Todd]], the second ComicBook/{{Robin}}, to a bloody pulp with a crowbar, leaves {{crowbar|Combatant}}, before leaving him broken and battered to die in a warehouse and then proceeds to blow up the warehouse. Later in the film, an explosion he sets off. After Joker kills four of Black Mask's mooks for no reason, after is released by a reluctant Black Mask (very reluctantly) freed Joker from Arkham. Joker then attempts Arkham Asylum to kill Red Hood, Joker demonstrates his random violence by [[SlashedThroat slitting the throat]] of one of his guards and shooting the other four dead, and soon after backstabs Black Mask by gagging him and the members of both the his and Red Hood's and Black Mask's gangs by covering gang, intending to [[ManOnFire burn them with gasoline all alive]] for the purpose of getting Red Hood's attention. Once it's revealed Red Hood is in fact [[spoiler:a resurrected Jason Todd]] and using a lighter to try to set them on fire. Also throughout the movie, Joker taunts Batman about Jason's death.turns the tides against Red Hood in the final confrontation, Joker tries to pin Batman down for the purpose of dying with both his arch-rival and Red Hood in an exploding building, absolutely ecstatic that he gets to die getting everything he wants. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even the hardened kingpin Black Mask]] is wary of the Joker, and Batman himself reveals he contemplates killing the Joker every day of his life for the clown's atrocities, [[ThouShaltNotKill only relenting]] to prevent himself from becoming just like those he opposes. As true to his darker interpretations, the Joker was a [[AxCrazy psychopath]] motivated by [[ForTheEvulz random whims]] at best, and a desire to hurt Batman at worst.
6th Jun '16 11:39:15 AM Riley1sCool
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** Jason killing the Joker would not be this. Him [[spoiler: handing Batman the pistol and telling him ''he'' has to do it qualifies to some.]]
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