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* TearJerker
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** Not to mention Red Hood; his voice usually didn't raise a decibel, but his behavior could be ridiculous. The waving scene, anyone?
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** The Joker's almost casually brutal slaughter of ''five'' of [[Mooks Black Mask's gunmen]], starting with just these words: "I'd like a drink of water."
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** [[WhatMeasureIsAMook The Joker's almost casually brutal slaughter of ''five'' of [[Mooks Black Mask's gunmen]], starting with just these words: "I'd like a drink of water."
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** The Joker's almost casually brutal slaughter of ''five'' of [[Mooks Black Mask's gunmen]], starting with just these words: "I'd like a drink of water."
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like the comic Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill countless.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like the comic Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill countless.thousands.
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** This could be because he is clearly (his clothes, his speech pattern) modelled on Al Pacino's Tony Montana (Scarface).
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* BadassDecay: The Black Mask. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
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All ready covered under Downer Ending and it better fits. The Joker is back to where he started in Arkam but alive, Black Mask is out of jail and still has his empire to run and Jason is likely dead again. The F Earsome Hand of Four are to only ones stopped but they were only the means and hardly the point.
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* BittersweetEnding: Batman overcomes the SadisticChoice he is presented with, and along the way, Black Mask, Joker, The Red Hood, and The Fearsome Hand of Four are all brought down. Hooray!
** [[spoiler: Then one final flashback to young Jason Todd happens. Half the point of the movie was juxtaposing Todd as Robin versus Todd as Red Hood, but the end hammers home [[BreakTheCutie what a drastic change it is]] in a [[TearJerker seriously depressing way]].]]
*** [[spoiler: "This is the best day of my life."]]
** [[spoiler: Then one final flashback to young Jason Todd happens. Half the point of the movie was juxtaposing Todd as Robin versus Todd as Red Hood, but the end hammers home [[BreakTheCutie what a drastic change it is]] in a [[TearJerker seriously depressing way]].]]
*** [[spoiler: "This is the best day of my life."]]
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* BittersweetEnding: Batman overcomes the SadisticChoice he is presented with, and along the way, Black Mask, Joker, The Red Hood, and The Fearsome Hand of Four are all brought down. Hooray!
** [[spoiler: Then one final flashback to young Jason Todd happens. Half the point of the movie was juxtaposing Todd as Robin versus Todd as Red Hood, but the end hammers home [[BreakTheCutie what a drastic change it is]] in a [[TearJerker seriously depressing way]].]]
*** [[spoiler: "This is the best day of my life."]]
** [[spoiler: Then one final flashback to young Jason Todd happens. Half the point of the movie was juxtaposing Todd as Robin versus Todd as Red Hood, but the end hammers home [[BreakTheCutie what a drastic change it is]] in a [[TearJerker seriously depressing way]].]]
*** [[spoiler: "This is the best day of my life."]]
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Like the comic Red Hood raises a good point on the naivety behind the idea that someone like [[JokerImmunity Joker can continue to walk the earth]] even though he'll continue to kill countless.
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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:A resurrected Jason Todd, the second Robin, is the Red Hood]]. For comic book fans, this is pretty much common knowledge and the film barely tries to treat it as a genuine mystery for long.
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* ChewingTheScenery: The Black Mask... he's no stranger to yelling and then proceeding to explain in great detail what he was yelling about, all while yelling.
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* ChewingTheScenery: The Black Mask... he's no stranger to yelling and then proceeding to explain in great detail what he was yelling about, all while yelling.
**This could be because he is clearly (his clothes, his speech pattern) modelled on Al Pacino's Tony Montana (Scarface).
**This could be because he is clearly (his clothes, his speech pattern) modelled on Al Pacino's Tony Montana (Scarface).
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* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero ([[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type IV or Type V]]): Red Hood - YourMileageMayVary.
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* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero ([[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type V]]): Red Hood - YourMileageMayVary.
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* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero ([[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type IV or Type V]]): Red Hood - YourMileageMayVary.
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* MagnificentBastard: See BatmanGambit.
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*** That may have as much to do with the absolutely awesome choreography and animation as it does the nature of Red Hood's character.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Naturally people were anxious with the casting for Batman and Joker (See WTHCastingAgency below), but hopes when raised when it was discovered NeilPatrickHarris was playing Nightwing.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Naturally people were anxious with the casting for Batman and Joker (See WTHCastingAgency below), but hopes when were raised when it was discovered NeilPatrickHarris was playing Nightwing.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Naturally people were anxious with the casting for Batman and Joker (See WTFWTHCastingAgency below), but hopes when raised when it was discovered NeilPatrickHarris was playing Nightwing.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Naturally people were anxious with the casting for Batman and Joker (See WTFWTHCastingAgency WTHCastingAgency below), but hopes when raised when it was discovered NeilPatrickHarris was playing Nightwing.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Naturally people were anxious with the casting for Batman and Joker (See WTFWTHCastingAgency below), but hopes when raised when it was discovered NeilPatrickHarris was playing Nightwing.
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* BadassDecay: The Black Mask. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
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* AdaptationDecay:
** For the Black Mask's character. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
** Red Hood's best StrawmanHasAPoint lines from the comic were cut out of the movie.
** For the Black Mask's character. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
** Red Hood's best StrawmanHasAPoint lines from the comic were cut out of the movie.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Film/StarTrek Captain Pike]] as Batman, [[HowIMetYourMother Barney]] as Nightwing, [[{{Supernatural}} Dean Winchester]] as The Red Hood, [[Film/HarryPotter Lucius Malfoy]] as Ra's al Ghul and [[{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriquez]] as The Joker.
** Vincent "[[PhineasAndFerb Phineas Flynn]]/[[EverybodyHatesChris Greg Wuliger]]" Martella is teenaged Jason. PhilLaMarr voiced one of Black Mask's men. CarlosAlazraqui and KevinMichaelRichardson voice two of the drug lords that meet with Red Hood. Gary "[[AmericanGothic Lucas Buck]]/[[OfficeSpace Bill Lumbergh]]/[[KimPossible James Timothy Possible]]/[[HarveyBirdmanAttorneyAtLaw Harvey Birdman]]" Cole is another one of the drug lords and Commissioner Gordon. Black Mask himself is Wade "[[PrisonBreak Brad Bellick]]" Williams.
** KellyHu was Ms. Li.
** And Robert "[[StarCraft Jim Raynor]]" Clotworthy is the new henchman, Leon. The one who gets punched.
** AndreaRomano, the voice director, voiced one of the reporters at the end of the movie.
** Vincent "[[PhineasAndFerb Phineas Flynn]]/[[EverybodyHatesChris Greg Wuliger]]" Martella is teenaged Jason. PhilLaMarr voiced one of Black Mask's men. CarlosAlazraqui and KevinMichaelRichardson voice two of the drug lords that meet with Red Hood. Gary "[[AmericanGothic Lucas Buck]]/[[OfficeSpace Bill Lumbergh]]/[[KimPossible James Timothy Possible]]/[[HarveyBirdmanAttorneyAtLaw Harvey Birdman]]" Cole is another one of the drug lords and Commissioner Gordon. Black Mask himself is Wade "[[PrisonBreak Brad Bellick]]" Williams.
** KellyHu was Ms. Li.
** And Robert "[[StarCraft Jim Raynor]]" Clotworthy is the new henchman, Leon. The one who gets punched.
** AndreaRomano, the voice director, voiced one of the reporters at the end of the movie.
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* CounterpartComparison: A ''lot'' of people noted Red Hood's resemblance to {{Deadpool}} when the first trailers went online. The similarities are even more marked in the actual film, where the character behaves near-identically to Deadpool in the latter's earlier appearances.
* DownerEnding[=/=]ShaggyDogStory: Because, after all is said and done, ''nothing'' has changed. [[spoiler:Even Jason is probably back where he started in being dead though it was left up in the air.]]
* DownerEnding[=/=]ShaggyDogStory: Because, after all is said and done, ''nothing'' has changed. [[spoiler:Even Jason is probably back where he started in being dead though it was left up in the air.]]
* [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Like He Would Really Do It]]: Hood tossing a gun to Batman and telling him to shoot TheJoker.
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*** I do not think they understood the power of the Mad Clown motif. The more the DarkerAndEdgier Mad Clown laughs, the SCARIER he is. Part of it was also in the animation; Joker just didn't have the same energy he possessed in other adaptations. The result is feeling like the Joker is just way too CALM throughout most of the film.film.
* XMeetsY: ''{{Batman}}'' ([[SarcasmMode imagine that]]) meets ''[[DirtyHarry Magnum Force]]''
* XMeetsY: ''{{Batman}}'' ([[SarcasmMode imagine that]]) meets ''[[DirtyHarry Magnum Force]]''
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* ChewingTheScenery: The Black Mask... he's no stranger to yelling and then proceeding to explain in great detail what he was yelling about, all while yelling.
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* LargeHam: The Joker, of course, but special mention goes to Black Mask, who stands out by far as the hammiest, screamiest, most hilariously skewed character in the movie - and somehow he manages to be even hammier in the comic the movie is based off of.
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* AdaptationDecay:
** For the Black Mask's character. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
** Red Hood's best StrawmanHasAPoint lines from the comic were cut out of the movie.
** For the Black Mask's character. Several of his best lines and the CrowningMomentOfAwesome that he pulls against a (fake) Red Hood are cut away, probably to give space to the more popular Joker.
** Red Hood's best StrawmanHasAPoint lines from the comic were cut out of the movie.
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* JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: Arguably Jason Todd/Robin II/Red Hood.]]
** [[YourMileageMayVary Your Mileage May Vary]], so very, very much. A lot of people, clearly not feeling any woobie-ish vibes, cheered when he got curb-stomped by Batman.
** [[YourMileageMayVary Your Mileage May Vary]], so very, very much. A lot of people, clearly not feeling any woobie-ish vibes, cheered when he got curb-stomped by Batman.
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* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero ([[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type V]]): Red Hood - YourMileageMayVary.
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* FoeYay: When Batman tells Red Hood he thinks about killing the Joker almost every day, the Joker replies with a flattered "So, you ''do'' think about me!"
* FridgeBrilliance: Nightwing and Batman visit Joker in Arkham to see whether he was related to the Red Hood in any way, which he is not. [[spoiler: However, his actions caused Jason Todd's death and subsequent transformation into Red Hood after his resurrection]], so in a way the Joker was linked to Red Hood in more ways than one.
* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Film/StarTrek Captain Pike]] as Batman, [[HowIMetYourMother Barney]] as Nightwing, [[{{Supernatural}} Dean Winchester]] as The Red Hood, [[Film/HarryPotter Lucius Malfoy]] as Ra's al Ghul and [[{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriquez]] as The Joker.
** Vincent "[[PhineasAndFerb Phineas Flynn]]/[[EverybodyHatesChris Greg Wuliger]]" Martella is teenaged Jason. PhilLaMarr voiced one of Black Mask's men. CarlosAlazraqui and KevinMichaelRichardson voice two of the drug lords that meet with Red Hood. Gary "[[AmericanGothic Lucas Buck]]/[[OfficeSpace Bill Lumbergh]]/[[KimPossible James Timothy Possible]]/[[HarveyBirdmanAttorneyAtLaw Harvey Birdman]]" Cole is another one of the drug lords and Commissioner Gordon. Black Mask himself is Wade "[[PrisonBreak Brad Bellick]]" Williams.
** KellyHu was Ms. Li.
** And Robert "[[StarCraft Jim Raynor]]" Clotworthy is the new henchman, Leon. The one who gets punched.
** AndreaRomano, the voice director, voiced one of the reporters at the end of the movie.
* FridgeBrilliance: Nightwing and Batman visit Joker in Arkham to see whether he was related to the Red Hood in any way, which he is not. [[spoiler: However, his actions caused Jason Todd's death and subsequent transformation into Red Hood after his resurrection]], so in a way the Joker was linked to Red Hood in more ways than one.
* HeyItsThatVoice: [[Film/StarTrek Captain Pike]] as Batman, [[HowIMetYourMother Barney]] as Nightwing, [[{{Supernatural}} Dean Winchester]] as The Red Hood, [[Film/HarryPotter Lucius Malfoy]] as Ra's al Ghul and [[{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriquez]] as The Joker.
** Vincent "[[PhineasAndFerb Phineas Flynn]]/[[EverybodyHatesChris Greg Wuliger]]" Martella is teenaged Jason. PhilLaMarr voiced one of Black Mask's men. CarlosAlazraqui and KevinMichaelRichardson voice two of the drug lords that meet with Red Hood. Gary "[[AmericanGothic Lucas Buck]]/[[OfficeSpace Bill Lumbergh]]/[[KimPossible James Timothy Possible]]/[[HarveyBirdmanAttorneyAtLaw Harvey Birdman]]" Cole is another one of the drug lords and Commissioner Gordon. Black Mask himself is Wade "[[PrisonBreak Brad Bellick]]" Williams.
** KellyHu was Ms. Li.
** And Robert "[[StarCraft Jim Raynor]]" Clotworthy is the new henchman, Leon. The one who gets punched.
** AndreaRomano, the voice director, voiced one of the reporters at the end of the movie.
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** [[spoiler: Jason Todd's resurrection scene and his sequential freak-out.]]]]
* WTHCastingAgency: Reactions to John [=DiMaggio=]'s casting as Joker were... mixed, to say the least. The release of the character models featuring a somewhat burlier Joker eased concerns somewhat. And then the film was released and a lot of those who doubted he could pull off the role did a complete 180.
** Audiences were also skeptical of JensenAckles playing a lead character, as he had never done voice acting work prior to this film.
*** And for most of the film, the character is... relatively flat. Really, a truly emotional performance would be LargeHam for the character. Ackles really delivers at the end. Most of the doubters, I must imagine, were impressed.
** And anyone other than Kevin Conroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Greenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who is supposed to be a little older than we normally see him.
*** Which is probably why he wasn't Kevin Conroy. Well, that, and an attempt to get a little distance from the animated series, awesome as it was.
** The fact that Greenwood and [=DiMaggio=]'s versions of Batman and Joker sound like deeper[=/=]older versions of KevinConroy's and MarkHamill's certainly helps.
** Criticism for Greenwood's Batman is mainly derived from the fact that his Batman sounds similar to Conroy's, which means he gives a good performance but that leads to people saying that they should have just hired Conroy. For John [=DiMaggio=]'s Joker it had to with him sounding a lot like [[{{Futurama}} Moes or Bender]] at some points.
*** I do not think they understood the power of the Mad Clown motif. The more the DarkerAndEdgier Mad Clown laughs, the SCARIER he is. Part of it was also in the animation; Joker just didn't have the same energy he possessed in other adaptations. The result is feeling like the Joker is just way too CALM throughout most of the film.
* WTHCastingAgency: Reactions to John [=DiMaggio=]'s casting as Joker were... mixed, to say the least. The release of the character models featuring a somewhat burlier Joker eased concerns somewhat. And then the film was released and a lot of those who doubted he could pull off the role did a complete 180.
** Audiences were also skeptical of JensenAckles playing a lead character, as he had never done voice acting work prior to this film.
*** And for most of the film, the character is... relatively flat. Really, a truly emotional performance would be LargeHam for the character. Ackles really delivers at the end. Most of the doubters, I must imagine, were impressed.
** And anyone other than Kevin Conroy as Batman raises suspicions. But Greenwood did a good job, especially as a Batman who is supposed to be a little older than we normally see him.
*** Which is probably why he wasn't Kevin Conroy. Well, that, and an attempt to get a little distance from the animated series, awesome as it was.
** The fact that Greenwood and [=DiMaggio=]'s versions of Batman and Joker sound like deeper[=/=]older versions of KevinConroy's and MarkHamill's certainly helps.
** Criticism for Greenwood's Batman is mainly derived from the fact that his Batman sounds similar to Conroy's, which means he gives a good performance but that leads to people saying that they should have just hired Conroy. For John [=DiMaggio=]'s Joker it had to with him sounding a lot like [[{{Futurama}} Moes or Bender]] at some points.
*** I do not think they understood the power of the Mad Clown motif. The more the DarkerAndEdgier Mad Clown laughs, the SCARIER he is. Part of it was also in the animation; Joker just didn't have the same energy he possessed in other adaptations. The result is feeling like the Joker is just way too CALM throughout most of the film.
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* CompleteMonster: The Joker, once more.more.
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel:
** Joker's absolutely brutal beatdown of Jason Todd in the opening scene.
** [[spoiler: Jason Todd's resurrection scene and his sequential freak-out.]]
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel:
** Joker's absolutely brutal beatdown of Jason Todd in the opening scene.
** [[spoiler: Jason Todd's resurrection scene and his sequential freak-out.]]
