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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Let's just say Huntress' [[BareYourMidriff newly belly-windowed outfit]] raised eyebrows among more than a few fans, especially after it was marketed towards.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Let's just say Huntress' [[BareYourMidriff newly belly-windowed outfit]] outfit raised eyebrows among more than a few fans, especially after it was marketed towards.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance...[[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb's ''ComicBook/PublicEnemies'' story arc.

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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance... [[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb's ''ComicBook/PublicEnemies'' story arc.
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** When Batman fights Clayface in the prison, the Joker is in his cell acting like a jilted girlfiriend, complaining about Batman fighting other villains and not bothering to defend him.

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** When Batman fights Clayface in the prison, the Joker is in his cell acting like a jilted girlfiriend, complaining about Batman fighting other villains and not bothering to defend him. Also, his commentary on the fight, including yelling at Gordon to do something.
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** [[spoiler: [[DontExplainTheJoke Because he's innocent.]]]]


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* {{Tearjerker}}: Bruce spends most of Chapter Seven in an UnstoppableRage, beating the everloving hell out of the Joker with every intention to kill him. And while he's doing so, he flashes back to every friend and family member who has suffered at the clown's hands. When Gordon finally snaps him out of it, Batman doesn’t turn to him with frustration or anger, but is instead clearly on the verge of tears. The sheer guilt and grief Batman feels for everyone who has ever suffered at the hands of his foe has never been more heartrendingly apparent.
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* OneSceneWonder: Batgirl only appears for a few minutes and barely affects the plot, but she still makes an impression due to the way that she holds her own against Catwoman and shows some amazement about how CrazyPrepared Batman, Dick, and Alfred are about vigilantism.
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* MagnificentBitch: [[Characters/CatwomanSelinaKyle Selina Kyle]], also known as Catwoman, is a snarky former thief and old flame of [[Characters/BatmanTheCharacter Bruce Wayne]]'s. Beginning the film brainwashed by Poison Ivy to steal some ransom money, Selina is able to break her brainwashing long enough to save an injured Batman from a group of thugs and later helps Batman track Ivy to Metropolis. When they are forced to fight a brainwashed Superman, Selina pretends to kidnap Lois as part of the plan to snap him out of his brainwashing, before going against the plan by actually pushing Lois off the roof when it doesn't work at first. Becoming a BattleCouple with Batman after he reveals his secret identity to her, Selina later escapes from the Hush's attempt to kill her and even prevents Bruce from saving the villain despite knowing of Batman's "no kill" rule.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance...[[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.

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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance...[[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.Loeb's ''ComicBook/PublicEnemies'' story arc.
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why would the Joker even want to convince Batman that he didn’t “kill” Thomas during the scene where Batman is attacking him? After all, doesn’t the Joker WANT to make [[TheCorrupter Batman break his code]] [[StrikeMeDownWithAllOfYourHatred by making him kill]]? For Joker, Batman actually trying to kill him [[ThanatosGambit should be his dream come true]], so there’s no reason for Joker to run away from Batman or try to prove his innocence to him. All Joker had to do is shut up and just let Batman kill him, and Joker would’ve finally gotten what he wanted. So why didn’t he?]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Batman's line from his fight with Superman about what gives him an advantage:

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Batman's line from his fight with Superman about what gives him an advantage:
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** Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.

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** Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, [[SlippingAMickey cover his drink]], resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Detractors of the story generally agree that it would have made more sense for Hush to be Jason Todd, as rumor has it was the original plan. These fans sort of got their wish, though, in the ''Red Hood'' storyline, where it was revealed that Batman initially ''had'' being facing Jason Todd in the graveyard scene.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Detractors of the story generally agree that it would have made more sense for Hush to be Jason Todd, as rumor has it was the original plan. These fans sort of got their wish, though, in the ''Red Hood'' storyline, where it was revealed that Batman initially ''had'' being facing Jason Todd in the graveyard scene.scene before Jason Todd was replaced by Clayface impersonating him partway through the fight.
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Zero Context Example and misuse: This trope is for unintended homoeroticism, not for characters who are canonically gay.


* LesYay: Between Poison Ivy and Catwoman, even though the former forced the latter into it.

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* {{Narm}}:

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* {{Narm}}: LesYay: Between Poison Ivy and Catwoman, even though the former forced the latter into it.
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* BrokenBase: ''Hush'' stands out as being seen as either one of Batman's best 2000s stories, or one of his worst. Its strong points and weak points are more or less the same; it operates less as a cohesive mystery story and more as a character piece and a vehicle for references to and recreations of other Batman stories backed by Lee's artwork. This results in it being viewed as an exciting GatewaySeries that rewards longterm familiarity by fans and a derivative and shallow RandomEventsPlot by critics. Similarly, its exploration of Batman's relationships with his supporting cast and the deep bench of his RoguesGallery are either interesting, readable, and show a deep understanding of the character, or, again, derivative of other, better, Batman stories.

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* BrokenBase: ''Hush'' stands out as being seen as either one of Batman's best 2000s stories, or one of his worst. Its strong points and weak points are more or less the same; it operates less as a cohesive mystery story and more as a character piece and a vehicle for references to and recreations of other Batman stories backed by Lee's artwork. This results in it being viewed as an exciting GatewaySeries that rewards longterm familiarity by fans and a derivative and shallow RandomEventsPlot by critics. Similarly, its exploration of Batman's relationships with his supporting cast and the deep bench of his RoguesGallery are either interesting, readable, and show a deep understanding of the character, or, again, derivative little more than a highlight reel of moments from other, better, Batman stories.
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For the record, I fall on the "interesting" side, and I disagree with the "newbs like it but discriminating longterm fans dislike it" take, which itself reeks of veiled criticism.


* BrokenBase: ''Hush'' stands out as being seen as either one of Batman's best 2000s stories, or one of his worst. Its strong points and weak points are more or less the same; it operates less as a cohesive mystery story and more as a vehicle for references to and recreations of other Batman stories backed by Lee's artwork. This results in it being viewed as an exciting GatewaySeries by new fans and a derivative and shallow RandomEventsPlot by longterm ones.
* CaptainObviousReveal: Hush’s true identity, given the fairly transparent foreshadowing. Led to some backlash decrying the lack of a compelling mystery. Allegedly, though, it wasn't planned this way; Hush originally ''was'' supposed to be a resurrected Jason Todd, and Thomas Elliot a RedHerring, but executives got cold feet at the last minute and vetoed this.

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* BrokenBase: ''Hush'' stands out as being seen as either one of Batman's best 2000s stories, or one of his worst. Its strong points and weak points are more or less the same; it operates less as a cohesive mystery story and more as a character piece and a vehicle for references to and recreations of other Batman stories backed by Lee's artwork. This results in it being viewed as an exciting GatewaySeries that rewards longterm familiarity by new fans and a derivative and shallow RandomEventsPlot by longterm ones.
critics. Similarly, its exploration of Batman's relationships with his supporting cast and the deep bench of his RoguesGallery are either interesting, readable, and show a deep understanding of the character, or, again, derivative of other, better, Batman stories.
* CaptainObviousReveal: Hush’s true identity, given the fairly transparent foreshadowing. Led to some backlash decrying the lack of a compelling mystery. Allegedly, though, it wasn't planned this way; Hush originally ''was'' supposed to be a resurrected Jason Todd, and Thomas Elliot a RedHerring, but executives got cold feet at the last minute and vetoed this.



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%%* * WTHCostumingDepartment: Let's just say Huntress' outfit [[BareYourMidriff newly belly-windowed outfit]] raised eyebrows among more than a few fans.
fans, especially after it was marketed towards.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[BestServedCold Batman the Silenced]], real name [[Characters/BatmanTheCharacter Bruce Wayne]], upon learning that [[EvilFormerFriend Thomas Elliot]] orchestrated the death of his parents and the downfall of his family, decided to enact his revenge. After Thomas imprisoned him in a mental asylum, Bruce hired [[ComicBook/TheJoker Jack Napier]] to help him pretend to be dead, after which he dressed as a Bat and hunted down people who had any hand in the corruption of Gotham and the fall of his family. Stalking and [[MindRape tormenting Thomas]] through the story, Bruce lured him to the abandoned Wayne Manor and dragged him to his basement, where he kept his foes in inhumane conditions, and revealed that he knows Thomas' involvement in the death of his parents. Making Thomas suffer for his sins, Bruce ended up victorious, with the ownership of Wayne Industries going to Alfred, who is loyal to him, and Court of Owls being unable to beat him.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[BestServedCold Batman the Silenced]], real name [[Characters/BatmanTheCharacter Bruce Wayne]], upon learning that [[EvilFormerFriend Thomas Elliot]] orchestrated the death of his parents and the downfall of his family, decided to enact his revenge. After Thomas imprisoned him in a mental asylum, Bruce hired [[ComicBook/TheJoker Jack Napier]] to help him pretend to be dead, after which he dressed as a Bat and hunted down people who had any hand in the corruption of Gotham and the fall of his family. Stalking and [[MindRape tormenting Thomas]] through the story, Bruce lured him to the abandoned Wayne Manor and dragged him to his basement, where he kept his foes in inhumane conditions, and revealed that he knows Thomas' involvement in the death of his parents. Making Thomas suffer for his sins, Bruce ended up victorious, with the ownership of Wayne Industries going to Alfred, who is loyal to him, and Court of Owls being unable to beat him.

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Hiding Zero Context Examples. Ho Yay is for things that are unintentionally homoerotic.


* HilariousInHindsight: Catwoman asking Ivy "[[Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice do you bleed]] green?"
* HoYay: Poison Ivy's pheromones working on Catwoman is a plot point. Ivy even says that no man ''or woman'' can resist her. It helps that Catwoman is revealed to be bisexual a few years later in the New 52.

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* %%* HilariousInHindsight: Catwoman asking Ivy "[[Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice do you bleed]] green?"
* HoYay: Poison Ivy's pheromones working on Catwoman is a plot point. Ivy even says that no man ''or woman'' can resist her. It helps that Catwoman is revealed to be bisexual a few years later in the New 52.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: Harvey Dent.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: Let's just say Huntress' outfit raised eyebrows among more than a few fans.

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* %%* UnexpectedCharacter: Harvey Dent.
* %%* WTHCostumingDepartment: Let's just say Huntress' outfit raised eyebrows among more than a few fans.
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* Poison Ivy is ''made'' of these. She tries so hard to be TheVamp, but whenever she's caught off-guard, she blurts out "SHIT!" or [[CurseCutShort "MOTHERFU-"]] in a very amusing fashion. When the heroes finally capture her, she immediately drops the act and tries to weasel out of responsibility by blaming Hush.

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* ** Poison Ivy is ''made'' of these. She tries so hard to be TheVamp, but whenever she's caught off-guard, she blurts out "SHIT!" or [[CurseCutShort "MOTHERFU-"]] in a very amusing fashion. When the heroes finally capture her, she immediately [[LovableCoward drops the act and tries to weasel out of responsibility responsibility]] by blaming Hush.
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* Poison Ivy is ''made'' of these. She tries so hard to be TheVamp, but whenever she's caught off-guard, she blurts out "SHIT!" or [[CurseCutShort "MOTHERFU-"]] in a very amusing fashion. When the heroes finally capture her, she immediately drops the act and tries to weasel out of responsibility by blaming Hush.
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* BrokenBase: ''Hush'' stands out as being seen as either one of Batman's best 2000s stories, or one of his worst. Its strong points and weak points are more or less the same; it operates less as a cohesive mystery story and more as a vehicle for references to and recreations of other Batman stories backed by Lee's artwork. This results in it being viewed as an exciting GatewaySeries by new fans and a derivative and shallow RandomEventsPlot by longterm ones.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In the only movie scene he has, Damian Wayne calls up Bruce to express his feelings on Catwoman that border more on the negative than positive. Due to being conceived by a supervillain in Talia al-Ghul himself and seeing first hand how awful she was, was Damian genuinely concerned for Bruce's choice in Selina Kyle and felt he should be extra vigilant? Or was he simply feeling insecure about his place in Bruce's life and didn't want anymore potential Wayne heirs in the future as competition? The fact that he told Bruce to use protection certainly didn't make Damian seem like he was happy about the prospect of future siblings.
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* ContestedSequel: People seem to be fairy divided on how much ''Hush'' was an improvement over previous DCAMU Batman movies. In one camp, you have people who loved Batman and Catwoman's romance, the more intense action, and even the huge plot twist that deviated from the source material where [[spoiler: Hush was revealed to be Riddler]], finding ''Hush'' to be the best Batman movie in the DCAMU yet. On the other side of the fence, you have people who hated the film for precisely the Batman and Catwoman romance and the film deviating from the comic books. Needless to say, from their point of view, ''Hush'' does very little, if anything, to improve upon past DCAMU Batman movies.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation were less than thrilled by the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne, Barbara being Batgirl instead of Oracle). To say nothing of [[spoiler:Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation were less than thrilled by the number of changes that failed made to live up to their expectations the story (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne, Barbara being Batgirl instead of Oracle). To say nothing of [[spoiler:Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Detractors of the story generally agree that it would have made more sense for Hush to be Jason Todd, as rumor has it was the original plan. These fans sort of got their wish, though, in the ''Red Hood'' storyline.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Detractors of the story generally agree that it would have made more sense for Hush to be Jason Todd, as rumor has it was the original plan. These fans sort of got their wish, though, in the ''Red Hood'' storyline.storyline, where it was revealed that Batman initially ''had'' being facing Jason Todd in the graveyard scene.



* CriticalDissonance: Professional critics and watchers who were unfamiliar with the original story loved the film, praising the action scenes and the interactions between Batman and Catwoman, resulting in an 88% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. On the other hand, comic book purists utterly despised this adaptation, with the film's uninspired animation style and the changes to Hush's backstory and identity being the main sources of criticism.

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* CriticalDissonance: Professional critics and watchers who were unfamiliar with the original story loved the film, praising the action scenes and the interactions between Batman and Catwoman, resulting in an 88% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. On the other hand, hardcore comic book fans and purists utterly despised this adaptation, with the film's uninspired animation style and the changes to Hush's backstory and identity being the main sources of criticism.
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** Early on we see Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.

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** Early on we see Catwoman land on a moving train and Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on into solid concrete - and they both survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.The sheer absurdity of the scenes sap away all drama and make them much more comical than intended.
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* CriticalDissonance: Professional critics and watchers who were unfamiliar with the original story loved the film, praising the action scenes and the interactions between Batman and Catwoman, resulting in an 88% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes. On the other hand, comic book purists utterly despised this adaptation, with the film's uninspired animation style and the changes to Hush's backstory and identity being the main sources of criticism.

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Les Yay is for moments which fans delight to interpret as homoerotic, not for situations where the homoeroticism is blatant. Trimming other entries. They Wasted A Perfectly Good Character is not for complaining that Thomas Elliot played a different role in this film.


* SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfFunny: Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.

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Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.



** After Bane has been taken down, the boy he kidnapped kicks him and calls him an "asshole".



* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Bane was taken down, the boy he kidnapped kicked him and called him an "asshole".
* LesYay: Poison Ivy uses a kiss to bring Catwoman under her spell.



* RomanticPlotTumor: Much of the canon material from the original comic has been omitted in favor of AdaptationExpansion focusing heavily on Bruce and Selina's romance, which some, including WebVideo/CinemaSins, view as a minus point.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bruce's friend Thomas Elliot is murdered and unlike in the comics, really was a good man. Bruce may not have to deal with the sting of betrayal but he still lost one of the few friends he has outside of being Batman.]]

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* RomanticPlotTumor: Much of the canon material from the original comic has been omitted in favor of AdaptationExpansion [[AdaptationExpansion focusing heavily on Bruce and Selina's romance, romance]], which some, including WebVideo/CinemaSins, some view as a minus point.
negative aspect of the adaptation.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bruce's friend Thomas [[spoiler:Thomas Elliot is murdered and and, unlike in the comics, he really was a good man. Bruce may not have to deal with the sting of betrayal but he still lost man and one of the Bruce's few friends he has outside of being Batman.true friends.]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayne are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois Lane are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Damian Wayne are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois Lane are limited to just one subplot. And villains subplot and forgotten for the remainder of the film. Villains like Penguin, Two Face, Face and Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow are only show up in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.still scenes during a battle montage.

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