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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After Bane was taken down, the boy he kidnapped kicked him and called him an "asshole".
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bruce's friend Thomas Elliot murdered.]]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bruce's friend Thomas Elliot murdered.is murdered and unlike in the comics, really was a good man. Bruce may not have to deal with the sting of betrayal but he still lost one of the few friends he has outside of being Batman.]]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bruce's friend Thomas Elliot murdered.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayen are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois Lane are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, MR. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayen Wayne are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois Lane are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, MR.Mr. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayen are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois LAne are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, MR. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayen are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois LAne Lane are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, MR. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.
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** When Batman fights Clayface in the prison, the Joker is in his cell acting like a jilted girlfiriend, complaining about Batman fighting other villains and not bothering to defend him.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This film had over two dozen comic characters, and most were underutilized. Heroic characters like Batgirl and Daiman Wayen are only in small inconsequential cameos. Superman and Lois LAne are limited to just one subplot. And villains like Penguin, Two Face, MR. Freeze and Scarecrow are only in one short fight each. And that's to say nothing of how Thomas Elliot is utilized.
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--> If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person ... and deep down, I'm not.
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--> If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person ... person...and deep down, I'm not.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance... [[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance... [[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance...[[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.
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* OneSceneWonder: ComicBook/LexLuthor. Finds out Batman kidnapped [=LexCorp=] CEO Talia and promises vengeance... [[VaguenessIsComing Soon.]] Expanded upon in Loeb’s ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' series.
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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler:Nygma]] says that the Lazarus Pit gave him a "clarity" allowing him to learn the Batman's identity. The pit gives sane people temporary madness, it can have the opposite effect on someone who's ''already'' insane. As such, the Pit temporarily rid [[spoiler:Edward]] of his compulsive ComplexityAddiction, which was the main thing keeping his brilliant mind from finding out.
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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler:Nygma]] says that the Lazarus Pit gave him a "clarity" allowing him to learn the Batman's identity. The pit Pit gives sane people temporary madness, so it can have the opposite effect on someone who's ''already'' insane. As such, the Pit temporarily rid [[spoiler:Edward]] of his compulsive ComplexityAddiction, which was the main thing keeping his brilliant mind from finding out.
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** Early on sees Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.
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** Early on sees we see Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation were less than thrilled by the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne, Barbara being Batgirl instead of Oracle). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation were less than thrilled by the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne, Barbara being Batgirl instead of Oracle). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush [[spoiler:Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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--> If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person...and deep down, I'm not.
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--> If Clark wanted to, he could use his superspeed and squish me into the cement. But I know how he thinks. Even more than the Kryptonite, he's got one big weakness. Deep down, Clark's essentially a good person...person ... and deep down, I'm not.
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* RomanticPlotTumor: Much of the canon material from the original comic has been omitted in favor of AdaptationExpansion focusing heavily on Bruce and Selina's romance, which some, including WebVideo/CinemaSins, view as a minus point.
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** For some reason the surgical scars Riddler has from his brain surgery are shaped like a question mark.
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** For some no reason other than aesthetics, the surgical scars Riddler has from his brain surgery are shaped like a question mark.
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* {{Narm}}: Early on sees Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.
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** Early on sees Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously isdifficult.difficult.
** For some reason the surgical scars Riddler has from his brain surgery are shaped like a question mark.
** Early on sees Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is
** For some reason the surgical scars Riddler has from his brain surgery are shaped like a question mark.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfFunny: Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Bruce is on his way to a date with Selina Kyle, resulting in snark from Dick about how she likes both Batman and Bruce despite not knowing they're the same person. The next scene after that Bruce gets a video call from Damian, who starts lecturing him on dating a criminal, and insists that Bruce use protection and criticizes Bruce's driving skills, resulting in Bruce hanging up on him.
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* GatewaySeries: As [[BrokenBase broken the base]] can be, there's a reason for its acclaim. With its RandomEventsPlot, usage of various Batman characters as well as using Catwoman as the LoveInterest, and the acclaimed artwork by Creator/JimLee, this arc proved to be an effective way for new fans to start their interest in comics.
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* GatewaySeries: As [[BrokenBase broken the base]] can be, there's a reason for its acclaim. With its RandomEventsPlot, usage of various Batman characters as well as using Catwoman as the LoveInterest, and the acclaimed artwork by Creator/JimLee, this arc proved to be an effective way for new fans to start their interest in comics.
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* Narm: Early on sees Batman plummet the height of a skyscraper and land on concrete - and survive! Taking it seriously is difficult.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Riddler says that the Lazarus Pit gave him a "clarity" allowing him to learn the Batman's identity. As shown when Joker used it, while the pit gives sane people temporary madness, it can have the opposite effect on someone who's ''already'' insane. As such, the Pit temporarily rid Edward of his compulsive ComplexityAddiction, which was the main thing keeping his brilliant mind from finding out.
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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler:Nygma]] says that the Lazarus Pit gave him a "clarity" allowing him to learn the Batman's identity. The pit gives sane people temporary madness, it can have the opposite effect on someone who's ''already'' insane. As such, the Pit temporarily rid [[spoiler:Edward]] of his compulsive ComplexityAddiction, which was the main thing keeping his brilliant mind from finding out.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend were less than thrilled by the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne).Wayne, Barbara being Batgirl instead of Oracle). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* LesYay: Poison Ivy uses a kiss to bring Catwoman under her spell.
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This is a case of What Could Have Been, not a case of They Changed It Now It Sucks. They Changed It Now It Sucks is for negatively-received differences between adaptations and their source material (or between later and earlier episodes of long-running works).
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne, and Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their respective roles as Batman and Joker as rumored).Wayne). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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Not YMMV.
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* StatusQuoIsGod: [[spoiler:The film ends with Bruce and Selina breaking up for rather contrived reasons, which come off to some as simply an excuse to reset things back to baseline.]]
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* StatusQuoIsGod: [[spoiler:The film ends with Bruce and Selina breaking up for rather contrived reasons, which come off to some as simply an excuse to reset things back to baseline.]]
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* GatewaySeries: As [[BrokenBase broken the base]] can be, there's a reason for its acclaim. With its RandomEventsPlot, usage of various Batman characters as well as using Catwoman as the LoveInterest, this arc proved to be an effective way for new fans to start their interest in comics.
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* GatewaySeries: As [[BrokenBase broken the base]] can be, there's a reason for its acclaim. With its RandomEventsPlot, usage of various Batman characters as well as using Catwoman as the LoveInterest, and the acclaimed artwork by Creator/JimLee, this arc proved to be an effective way for new fans to start their interest in comics.
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It was previously rumored that Conroy and Hamill would reprise their roles of Batman and Joker.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the fact that the animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne).Wayne, and Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their respective roles as Batman and Joker as rumored). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill are not in the comic.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the use of the ''Rebirth'' art style, Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their roles as Batman and Joker as rumored and Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the use of fact that the ''Rebirth'' animation doesn't try to emulate Jim Lee's art style, Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their roles as Batman and Joker as rumored and Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the use of the ''Rebirth'' art style, Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their roles as Batman and Joker as rumored and Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne).
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (the use of the ''Rebirth'' art style, Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their roles as Batman and Joker as rumored and Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne). To say nothing of [[spoiler: Hush actually being Edward Nygma and not Thomas Elliot.]]
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I'd say that's more Idiot Ball, which isn't a YMMV trope.
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* WhatAnIdiot: The premise requires that the infamously CrazyPrepared Batman doesn't have a contingency plan for Batrope failure.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: As with ''WesternAnimation/TheDeathOfSuperman'' before it, fans who had hoped for a completely faithful adaptation couldn't comprehend the number of changes that failed to live up to their expectations (Creator/KevinConroy (the use of the ''Rebirth'' art style, Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill not reprising their roles as Batman and Joker as rumored and Tim Drake being replaced by Damian Wayne).