History YMMV / Batgirl2009

25th Oct '15 8:22:51 AM rexman21
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*** It goes way further than that depending on how much between-the-lines reading you want to do. At the end of the issue, as Kara's saying she needs to go, Steph playfully asks "Please don't leave." The next panel is tagged "a few minutes later," and features Steph coming downstairs, her hair slightly more messed. When her mom asks her if she and her friend had a good time, Steph grins and says "the best" as we see Kara's exiting blur through the kitchen window. How'd they spend those "few minutes," I wonder?
21st Sep '15 5:46:03 PM nombretomado
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* ReplacementScrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from that was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans (it was eventually retconned that Cass was told to give up the Batgirl identity), especially due to the fact that DC replaced one of the few Asian superheroes with their own ongoing with a White, blonde, blue-eyed successor.
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* ReplacementScrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from that was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans (it was eventually retconned that Cass was told to give up the Batgirl identity), especially due to the fact that DC replaced one of the few Asian superheroes with their own ongoing with a White, blonde, blue-eyed successor.
5th Jul '15 5:32:52 AM XSpectreGreyX
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* ReplacementScrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from that was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans.
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* ReplacementScrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from that was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans.fans (it was eventually retconned that Cass was told to give up the Batgirl identity), especially due to the fact that DC replaced one of the few Asian superheroes with their own ongoing with a White, blonde, blue-eyed successor.
25th Nov '14 8:34:10 PM Monessi
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*** It goes way further than that depending on how much between-the-lines reading you want to do. At the end of the issue, as Kara's saying she needs to go, Steph playfully asks "Please don't leave." The next panel is tagged "a few minutes later," and features Steph coming downstairs, her hair slightly more messed. When her mom asks her if she and her friend had a good time, Steph grins and says "the best" as we see Kara's exiting blur through the kitchen window. How'd they spend those "few minutes," I wonder?
9th Jul '14 6:40:28 PM urutapu
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* HarsherInHindsight: A letter from the editor in one of the early issues says that, following the announcement of a new ''Batgirl'' title for 2009, DC may have [[LyingCreator stoked rumors that Barbara was somehow going to become Batgirl again]], but they never really gave it serious thought since Oracle was a way more interesting character, and they'd rather use someone new. [[ContinuityReboot Two]] [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} years]] [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} later]]... On top of that, when Steph [[ComicBookDeath "died"]], she said that she was part of the Robin legacy and no one could ever take that away. [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} Well, apparently, DC is "nobody".]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: A letter from the editor in one of the early issues says that, following the announcement of a new ''Batgirl'' title for 2009, DC may have [[LyingCreator stoked rumors that Barbara was somehow going to become Batgirl again]], but they never really gave it serious thought since Oracle Babs was a way more interesting character, as Oracle, and they'd rather use someone new. [[ContinuityReboot Two]] [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} years]] [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} later]]... On top of that, when Steph [[ComicBookDeath "died"]], she said that she was part of the Robin legacy and no one could ever take that away. [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} Well, apparently, DC is "nobody".]]
8th Jul '14 11:08:55 PM LogoP
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Fan Dumb & Hate Dumb are now part of Flame Bait. Only in-universe examples are allowed.
* [[FanHater Fan Hater/]]HateDumb: While Steph and her series is relatively popular, and continues to gain new fans even after the NewFiftyTwo, replacing Cass and being a WideEyedIdealist in a Comic Family mostly full of brooding cynics certainly put a few off picking up her series. While it didn't stop it from getting enough sales to keep it going until ''Flashpoint'' happened, there's a small group who absolutely hate her, her series, and her fans. Usually they can only be found on certain blogs and forums, and the occasional hate-art on Website/DeviantArt, but when you stumble upon them, you'll find many who hate her for the smallest of reasons, will make a very big deal about her series being cancelled (which they'll claim as 'proof' that she wasn't that popular), admit to never reading her book but call it crap anyway, and call her fans either whiney tweens (if they're girls) or stereotypical 30 year old basement dweller virgins (if they're boys). Reportedly, some people passed on recommendations for the series from comic book retailers on as little as 'its a girl's comic'.
18th Jan '14 3:59:36 AM MacronNotes
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** Apparently, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} watches ''those'' types of college movies. You know, the ones with {{Pillow Fight}}s and [[SlumberParty Slumber Parties]], and she is just dying to reenact them with Stephanie. Later, [[ItMakesSenseInContext after Dracula appears]], Supergirl [[DressedInLayers rips off her top to reveal her costume beneath it]].
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** Apparently, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} watches ''those'' types of college movies. You know, the ones with {{Pillow Fight}}s pillow fight and [[SlumberParty Slumber Parties]], and she is just dying to reenact them with Stephanie. Later, [[ItMakesSenseInContext after Dracula appears]], Supergirl [[DressedInLayers rips off her top to reveal her costume beneath it]].
10th Jan '14 5:48:21 AM LadyMomus
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* HarsherInHindsight: A letter from the editor in one of the early issues says that, following the announcement of a new ''Batgirl'' title for 2009, DC may have [[LyingCreator stoked rumors that Barbara was somehow going to become Batgirl again]], but they never really gave it serious thought since Oracle was a way more interesting character, and they'd rather use someone new. [[ContinuityReboot Two]] [[{{New 52}} years]] [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} later]]... On top of that, when Steph [[ComicBookDeath "died"]], she said that she was part of the Robin legacy and no one could ever take that away. [[TheNew52 Well, apparently, DC is "nobody".]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: A letter from the editor in one of the early issues says that, following the announcement of a new ''Batgirl'' title for 2009, DC may have [[LyingCreator stoked rumors that Barbara was somehow going to become Batgirl again]], but they never really gave it serious thought since Oracle was a way more interesting character, and they'd rather use someone new. [[ContinuityReboot Two]] [[{{New [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} years]] [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} later]]... On top of that, when Steph [[ComicBookDeath "died"]], she said that she was part of the Robin legacy and no one could ever take that away. [[TheNew52 [[Comicbook/{{New 52}} Well, apparently, DC is "nobody".]]

** When one of Barbara Gordon's male sudents sends a text message to Jen, the girl siting next to him in class, commenting that Barbara is hot, Jen clutches her phone to her chest and says "Yeah, she is."
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** When one of Barbara Gordon's male sudents students sends a text message to Jen, the girl siting next to him in class, commenting that Barbara is hot, Jen clutches her phone to her chest and says "Yeah, she is."
7th Nov '13 11:06:18 PM XSpectreGreyX
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* a ReplacementSrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from this was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans.
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* a ReplacementSrappy: ReplacementScrappy: While this largely faded over time, her replacing Cass was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her character. The sole good thing to come from this that was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the way she was replaced did not endear her to many of Cass' fans.
7th Nov '13 11:05:08 PM XSpectreGreyX
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* [[FanHater Fan Hater/]]HateDumb: While Steph and her series is relatively popular, and continues to gain new fans even after the NewFiftyTwo, replacing Cass and being a WideEyedIdealist in a Comic Family mostly full of brooding cynics certainly put a few off picking up her series. While it didn't stop it from getting enough sales to keep it going until the Flashpoint happened, there's a small group who absolutely hate her, her series, and her fans. Usually they can only be found on certain blogs and forums, and the occasional hate-art on Website/DeviantArt, but when you stumble upon them, you'll find many who hate her for the smallest of reasons, will make a very big deal about her series being cancelled (which they'll claim as 'proof' that she wasn't that popular), admit to never reading her book but call it crap anyway, and call her fans either whiney tweens (if they're girls) or stereotypical 30 year old basement dweller virgins (if they're boys). Reportedly, some people passed on recommendations for the series from comic book retailers on as little as 'its a girl's comic'.
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* [[FanHater Fan Hater/]]HateDumb: While Steph and her series is relatively popular, and continues to gain new fans even after the NewFiftyTwo, replacing Cass and being a WideEyedIdealist in a Comic Family mostly full of brooding cynics certainly put a few off picking up her series. While it didn't stop it from getting enough sales to keep it going until the Flashpoint ''Flashpoint'' happened, there's a small group who absolutely hate her, her series, and her fans. Usually they can only be found on certain blogs and forums, and the occasional hate-art on Website/DeviantArt, but when you stumble upon them, you'll find many who hate her for the smallest of reasons, will make a very big deal about her series being cancelled (which they'll claim as 'proof' that she wasn't that popular), admit to never reading her book but call it crap anyway, and call her fans either whiney tweens (if they're girls) or stereotypical 30 year old basement dweller virgins (if they're boys). Reportedly, some people passed on recommendations for the series from comic book retailers on as little as 'its a girl's comic'.

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* [[FanHater Fan Hater/]]HateDumb: a ReplacementSrappy: While Steph and this largely faded over time, her series is relatively popular, and continues to gain new fans even after the NewFiftyTwo, replacing Cass and being a WideEyedIdealist in a Comic Family mostly full of brooding cynics certainly put a few off picking was not well-received at first, since Cass had already ate it due to Adam Beechen royally screwing up her series. character. The sole good thing to come from this was that Bruce Wayne adopted her... Then apparently died in ''FinalCrisis'', and Cass was PutOnABus. While it didn't stop it from getting enough sales to keep it going until Stephanie is popular among Cassandra Cain fans, the Flashpoint happened, there's a small group who absolutely hate her, way she was replaced did not endear her series, and her fans. Usually they can only be found on certain blogs and forums, and the occasional hate-art on Website/DeviantArt, but when you stumble upon them, you'll find to many who hate her for the smallest of reasons, will make a very big deal about her series being cancelled (which they'll claim as 'proof' that she wasn't that popular), admit to never reading her book but call it crap anyway, and call her fans either whiney tweens (if they're girls) or stereotypical 30 year old basement dweller virgins (if they're boys). Reportedly, some people passed on recommendations for the series from comic book retailers on as little as 'its a girl's comic'.Cass' fans.
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