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* RetroactiveRecognition: The film had a lot of aspiring actors who would be future stars....

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** Pre-''Series/CharliesAngels'' Shelley Hack can be seen as one of people Alvy questions on the street.
** Pre-''Film/NationalLampoonsVacation'' Beverly D'Angelo is Rob's sitcom costar.
** Pre-''Film/TheShining'' Creator/ShelleyDuvall appears briefly as one of Alvy's lovers.
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* AwardSnub: A rare inversion. ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. This has gone back and forth, as ''Star Wars'' gets [[ItsPopularNowItSucks criticism]] for having led to a juggernaut of a franchise while others are upset at the loss. However, there are others who are fine with the loss, opining that ''Annie Hall'' was the only film other than ''Star Wars'' that deserved the honor and would have been fine with it either way. Additionally, those who champion ''Annie Hall'' point out it was not some obscure arthouse film the Academy usually gives the award to, as it was the 10th highest grossing film of 1977, only a few million dollars behind ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''.

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* AwardSnub: A rare inversion. ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar UsefulNotes/AcademyAward in 1977. This has gone back and forth, as ''Star Wars'' gets [[ItsPopularNowItSucks criticism]] for having led to a juggernaut of a franchise while others are upset at the loss. However, there are others who are fine with the loss, opining that ''Annie Hall'' was the only film other than ''Star Wars'' that deserved the honor and would have been fine with it either way. Additionally, those who champion ''Annie Hall'' point out it was not some obscure arthouse film the Academy usually gives the award to, as it was the 10th highest grossing film of 1977, only a few million dollars behind ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''.
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The accusations were made public a few years before the Weinstein effect occurred, so this doesn't seem necessary to include.


* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the reasons that its Best Picture Oscar seems so puzzling to younger viewers is because ''Annie Hall'' was amazingly influential on American comedy of the last several decades. In 1977 it was very bold and innovative in how it mined humor out of everyday neuroses and mixed irreverence and pathos. Not only that, it also employed devices like BreakingTheFourthWall and [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spots]] in ways that were funny ''and'' deepened the story. Those have all become so common now that it's hard to watch this film with fresh eyes (and ironically ''{{Series/Seinfeld}}'' itself was one of the works that owed a lot to ''Annie Hall'''s sensibility). The accusations of child molestation against Woody Allen haven't helped its image either in the wake of the Weinstein Effect.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the reasons that its Best Picture Oscar seems so puzzling to younger viewers is because ''Annie Hall'' was amazingly influential on American comedy of the last several decades. In 1977 it was very bold and innovative in how it mined humor out of everyday neuroses and mixed irreverence and pathos. Not only that, it also employed devices like BreakingTheFourthWall and [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spots]] in ways that were funny ''and'' deepened the story. Those have all become so common now that it's hard to watch this film with fresh eyes (and ironically ''{{Series/Seinfeld}}'' itself was one of the works that owed a lot to ''Annie Hall'''s sensibility). The accusations of child molestation against Woody Allen haven't helped its image either in the wake of the Weinstein Effect.either.
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** This was Creator/SigourneyWeaver's first feature film role (playing Alvy's date at the end). It was 2 years away from her StarMakingRole in ''Film/{{Alien}}''.
** Creator/JeffGoldblum also has a role in the film (as the actor who forgets his mantra). He had already been in a number of films leading up to this (including ''Film/DeathWish'' and ''Film/{{Nashville}}'') but was a few years away from larger stardom.
** Creator/ChristopherWalken's work here as Annie's brother came just a year ahead of his Oscar-winning turn in ''Film/TheDeerHunter''.
** Creator/JohnGlover as Alvy's actor boyfriend.
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* InternetBackdraft: Debates on if ''Star Wars'' was snubbed and if ''Annie Hall'' deserved it can spark a big one. We'll keep it at that.

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* AwardSnub: A rare inversion. ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. This has gone back and forth, as ''Star Wars'' gets [[ItsPopularNowItSucks criticism]] for having led to a juggernaut of a franchise while others are upset at the loss. However, there are others who are fine with the loss, opining that ''Annie Hall'' was the only film other than ''Star Wars'' that deserved the honor and would have been fine with it either way. Additionally, those who champion ''Annie Hall'' point out it was not some obscure arthouse film the Academy usually gives the award to, as it was the 10th highest grossing film of 1977, only a few million dollars behind ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''.



* CriticalDissonance[=/=]AwardSnub[=/=][[ItsPopularNowItSucks True Art Is Not Popular]]:
** ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. While this has led to people accusing the award of being a snub, there are many film historians and critics who think otherwise due to ''Star Wars'' getting cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks for becoming a juggernaut of a pop culture franchise. On the other hand, there are also people, even ''Star Wars'' fans upset over the loss, that are perfectly content with the win, some going as far to say ''Annie Hall'' was the only other film that deserved to beat out ''Star Wars'' for Best Picture. Of course, it is perfectly possible to enjoy both films as well for what they are considering how vastly different they are.
** One funny thing about this is that it's not like ''Annie Hall'' was some obscure arthouse flick. It was the 10th highest grossing film of 1977, only a few million dollars behind ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the reasons that its Best Picture Oscar seems so puzzling to younger viewers is because ''Annie Hall'' was amazingly influential on American comedy of the last several decades. In 1977 it was very bold and innovative in how it mined humor out of everyday neuroses and mixed irreverence and pathos. Not only that, it also employed devices like BreakingTheFourthWall and [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spots]] in ways that were funny ''and'' deepened the story. Those have all become so common now that it's hard to watch this film with fresh eyes (and ironically ''{{Series/Seinfeld}}'' itself was one of the works that owed a lot to ''Annie Hall'''s sensibility).

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the reasons that its Best Picture Oscar seems so puzzling to younger viewers is because ''Annie Hall'' was amazingly influential on American comedy of the last several decades. In 1977 it was very bold and innovative in how it mined humor out of everyday neuroses and mixed irreverence and pathos. Not only that, it also employed devices like BreakingTheFourthWall and [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spots]] in ways that were funny ''and'' deepened the story. Those have all become so common now that it's hard to watch this film with fresh eyes (and ironically ''{{Series/Seinfeld}}'' itself was one of the works that owed a lot to ''Annie Hall'''s sensibility). The accusations of child molestation against Woody Allen haven't helped its image either in the wake of the Weinstein Effect.
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was Creator/SigourneyWeaver's first feature film role (playing Alvy's date at the end). It was 2 years away from her StarMakingRole in ''Film/{{Alien}}''.
** Creator/JeffGoldblum also has a role in the film (as the actor who forgets his mantra). He had already been in a number of films leading up to this (including ''Film/DeathWish'' and ''Film/{{Nashville}}'') but was a few years away from larger stardom.
** Creator/ChristopherWalken's work here as Annie's brother came just a year ahead of his Oscar-winning turn in ''Film/TheDeerHunter''.
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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the Creator/HenrikIbsen's play ''Theatre/{{Ghosts}}'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of a raging headache?

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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the Creator/HenrikIbsen's play ''Theatre/{{Ghosts}}'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of a raging headache?
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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the Creator/HenrikIbsen's play ''Theater/{{Ghosts}}'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of a raging headache?

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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the Creator/HenrikIbsen's play ''Theater/{{Ghosts}}'' ''Theatre/{{Ghosts}}'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of a raging headache?
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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the play ''[[Creator/HenrikIbsen Ghosts]]'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of having a headache?

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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the Creator/HenrikIbsen's play ''[[Creator/HenrikIbsen Ghosts]]'' ''Theater/{{Ghosts}}'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of having a raging headache?
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** Most of the humor, in fact. It's funny simply using contextual clues: do you ''really'' need to know the play ''[[Creator/HenrikIbsen Ghosts]]'' to get the joke about avoiding sex because of having a headache?
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* ItWasHisSled: The film's most famous gags are so well-known and often cited (like Marshall [=McCluhan's=] cameo), they're usually spoiled for first-time viewers.

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* ItWasHisSled: The film's most famous gags are so well-known and often cited (like Marshall [=McCluhan's=] [=McLuhan's=] cameo), they're usually spoiled for first-time viewers.
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** Creator/ChristopherWalken's work here came just a year ahead of his Oscar-winning turn in ''Film/TheDeerHunter''.

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** Creator/ChristopherWalken's work here as Annie's brother came just a year ahead of his Oscar-winning turn in ''Film/TheDeerHunter''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was Creator/SigourneyWeaver's first feature film role (playing Alvy's date at the end). It was 2 years away from her StarMakingRole in ''Film/{{Alien}}''.
** Creator/JeffGoldblum also has a role in the film (as the actor who forgets his mantra). He had already been in a number of films leading up to this (including ''Film/DeathWish'' and ''Film/{{Nashville}}'') but was a few years away from larger stardom.
** Creator/ChristopherWalken's work here came just a year ahead of his Oscar-winning turn in ''Film/TheDeerHunter''.
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** Doubly averted in that although Creator/WoodyAllen lost Best Actor despite being in his best known role, it was to ''another'' romantic comedy film, Richard Dreyfuss in ''The Goodbye Girl'', ''and'' it beat out the top contender in the category, Creator/RichardBurton in ''Film/{{Equus}}''.

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** Doubly averted in that although Creator/WoodyAllen lost Best Actor despite being in his best known role, it was to ''another'' romantic comedy film, Richard Dreyfuss Creator/RichardDreyfuss in ''The Goodbye Girl'', ''Film/TheGoodbyeGirl'', ''and'' it beat out the top contender in the category, Creator/RichardBurton in ''Film/{{Equus}}''.

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* CriticalDissonance[=/=]AwardSnub[=/=][[ItsPopularNowItSucks True Art Is Not Popular]]: ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. While this has led to people accusing the award of being a snub, there are many film historians and critics who think otherwise due to ''Star Wars'' getting cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks for becoming a juggernaut of a pop culture franchise. On the other hand, there are also people, even ''Star Wars'' fans upset over the loss, that are perfectly content with the win, some going as far to say ''Annie Hall'' was the only other film that deserved to beat out ''Star Wars'' for Best Picture. Of course, it is perfectly possible to enjoy both films as well for what they are considering how vastly different they are.

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* CriticalDissonance[=/=]AwardSnub[=/=][[ItsPopularNowItSucks True Art Is Not Popular]]: Popular]]:
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''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. While this has led to people accusing the award of being a snub, there are many film historians and critics who think otherwise due to ''Star Wars'' getting cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks for becoming a juggernaut of a pop culture franchise. On the other hand, there are also people, even ''Star Wars'' fans upset over the loss, that are perfectly content with the win, some going as far to say ''Annie Hall'' was the only other film that deserved to beat out ''Star Wars'' for Best Picture. Of course, it is perfectly possible to enjoy both films as well for what they are considering how vastly different they are.are.
** One funny thing about this is that it's not like ''Annie Hall'' was some obscure arthouse flick. It was the 10th highest grossing film of 1977, only a few million dollars behind ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe''.
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** The party guest using the house phone to tell his guru he forgot his mantra is already supposed to be funny, outlining the pseudo-intellectual, culturally-appropriating nature of LA, but the fact that it's a then-unknown JeffGoldblum and he's only in the entire movie for less than 5 seconds makes modern-day viewing that much more hilarious.

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** The party guest using the house phone to tell his guru he forgot his mantra is already supposed to be funny, outlining the pseudo-intellectual, culturally-appropriating nature of LA, but the fact that it's a then-unknown JeffGoldblum Creator/JeffGoldblum and he's only in the entire movie for less than 5 seconds makes modern-day viewing that much more hilarious.
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* ItWasHisSled: A lot of the film's humor stems from playing around with filmmaking techniques for comedic effect, in an unexpected way. But since those gags are always mentioned whenever the film is discussed (like Marshall [=McCluhan's=] cameo), they tend to already be spoiled for first-time viewers.

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* ItWasHisSled: A lot of the The film's humor stems from playing around with filmmaking techniques for comedic effect, in an unexpected way. But since those most famous gags are always mentioned whenever the film is discussed so well-known and often cited (like Marshall [=McCluhan's=] cameo), they tend to already be they're usually spoiled for first-time viewers.
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** Creator/JeffGoldblum forgets his mantra.

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** Creator/JeffGoldblum forgets his mantra.mantra.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the reasons that its Best Picture Oscar seems so puzzling to younger viewers is because ''Annie Hall'' was amazingly influential on American comedy of the last several decades. In 1977 it was very bold and innovative in how it mined humor out of everyday neuroses and mixed irreverence and pathos. Not only that, it also employed devices like BreakingTheFourthWall and [[ImagineSpot Imagine Spots]] in ways that were funny ''and'' deepened the story. Those have all become so common now that it's hard to watch this film with fresh eyes (and ironically ''{{Series/Seinfeld}}'' itself was one of the works that owed a lot to ''Annie Hall'''s sensibility).
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* FountainOfMemes: Alvy's quips about things like sex and Southern California have been quoted early and often.


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* ItWasHisSled: A lot of the film's humor stems from playing around with filmmaking techniques for comedic effect, in an unexpected way. But since those gags are always mentioned whenever the film is discussed (like Marshall [=McCluhan's=] cameo), they tend to already be spoiled for first-time viewers.
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* FreudWasRight: Discussed:
-->'''Miss Reed:''' (''after 6-year-old Alvy kisses a girl on the cheek'') You should be ashamed of yourself!
-->'''Adult Alvy:''' Why? I was just expressing a healthy sexual curiosity.
-->'''Miss Reed:''' Six-year-old boys don't have girls on their mind.
-->'''Adult Alvy:''' I did!
-->'''Girl Classmate:''' (''whom young Alvy kissed'') For God's sake, Alvy, even Freud speaks of a latency period!
-->'''Adult Alvy:''' Well, I never had a latency period! I can't help it.
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* ComedyGhetto: A rare Best Picture aversion.

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* ComedyGhetto: A rare Best Picture aversion.[[OutOfTheGhetto aversion]].
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** When Alvie's going through his buttons calling for the impeachment of various presidents, Ronald Reagan is included among them; he had already served as governor of California (which is probably what the button is referring to), but hadn't been president yet.

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** When Alvie's Alvy's going through his buttons calling for the impeachment of various presidents, Ronald Reagan is included among them; he had already served as governor of California (which is probably what the button is referring to), but hadn't been president yet.

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** JeffGoldblum forgets his mantra.

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** JeffGoldblum Creator/JohnGlover is Jerry, the actor Annie once dated.
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** Annie telling Alvy to start smoking pot to "get off the couch," when recent studies have suggested that marijuana IS beneficial in the treatment of depression.
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* CriticalDissonance[=/=]AwardSnub[=/=][[ItsPopularNowItSucks True Art Is Not Popular]]: ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. While many moviegoers might think otherwise, many film historians and critics agree that ''Annie Hall'' deserved the win. This is also true for the legacies of these two titles. ''Annie Hall'' isn't as well known but it is well acclaimed by many hardcore moviegoers and critics. ''Star Wars'', meanwhile, became a franchise and pop-culture juggernaut, but got cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks, especially when the prequels came out.

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* CriticalDissonance[=/=]AwardSnub[=/=][[ItsPopularNowItSucks True Art Is Not Popular]]: ''[[Film/ANewHope Star Wars]]'' notably lost out to ''Annie Hall'' for the Best Picture Oscar in 1977. While many moviegoers might think otherwise, this has led to people accusing the award of being a snub, there are many film historians and critics agree who think otherwise due to ''Star Wars'' getting cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks for becoming a juggernaut of a pop culture franchise. On the other hand, there are also people, even ''Star Wars'' fans upset over the loss, that are perfectly content with the win, some going as far to say ''Annie Hall'' was the only other film that deserved the win. This is also true for the legacies of these two titles. ''Annie Hall'' isn't as well known but it is well acclaimed by many hardcore moviegoers and critics. to beat out ''Star Wars'', meanwhile, became a franchise and pop-culture juggernaut, but got cries of ItsPopularNowItSucks, especially when the prequels came out.Wars'' for Best Picture. Of course, it is perfectly possible to enjoy both films as well for what they are considering how vastly different they are.

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* HarsherInHindsight: When ranting about WhoShotJFK, Alvy notes that he wouldn't put it past LBJ to have been in on the conspiracy because politicians are so rotten, they're "one notch above child molester". Just ''try'' watching that scene nowadays without thinking of the allegations against Woody....



* HarsherInHindsight: When ranting about WhoShotJFK, Alvy notes that he wouldn't put it past LBJ to have been in on the conspiracy because politicians are so rotten, they're "one notch above child molester". Just ''try'' watching that scene nowadays without thinking of the allegations against Woody....
* HilariousInHindsight: "I have to go join the others now on planet Earth." This would become the typical response to pretty much ''any'' character played by Christopher Walken.

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* HarsherInHindsight: When ranting about WhoShotJFK, Alvy notes that he wouldn't put it past LBJ to have been in on the conspiracy because politicians are so rotten, they're "one notch above child molester". Just ''try'' watching that scene nowadays without thinking of the allegations against Woody....
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** "I have to go join the others now on planet Earth." This would become the typical response to pretty much ''any'' character played by Christopher Walken.
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* HilariousInHindsight: "I have to go join the others now on planet Earth." This would become the typical response to pretty much ''any'' character played by Christopher Walken.
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* HarsherInHindsight: When ranting about WhoShotJFK, Alvy notes that he wouldn't put it past LBJ to have been in on the conspiracy because politicians are so rotten, they're "one notch above child molester". Just ''try'' watching that scene nowadays without thinking of the allegations against Woody....

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