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** Emmitt Little is another particularly popular one-time character, partly for the novelty of his being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partly for being a Handicapped Badass who defends the WrongfullyAccused Clarence Montgomery.
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** Emmitt Little is another particularly popular one-time character, partly for the novelty of his being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partly for being a Handicapped Badass who defends the WrongfullyAccused Clarence Montgomery.
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** GeniusBruiser Pinky Ames, with his gold heist scheme.
** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
** Emmitt Little Partially for the gimmick of being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partially for being a HandicappedBadass who defends Clarence Montgomery.
** The unfortunate, yet compelling first-captured 63 Jack Sylvane.
** GeniusBruiser Pinky Ames, with his gold heist scheme.
** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
** Emmitt Little Partially for the gimmick of being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partially for being a HandicappedBadass who defends Clarence Montgomery.
** The unfortunate, yet compelling first-captured 63 Jack Sylvane.
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** Pinky Ames and Garrett Stillman are both single episode characters, but their popularity equals or eclipses that of recurring, better-developed [[VillainOfTheWeek '63's]] like Jack Sylvane, Tommy Madsen and Ernest Cobb.
*** Pinky's popularity comes from his being a GeniusBruiserPinky Ames, [[TheHeist with his an elaborate plan to steal the warden's secret gold heist scheme.
** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.stash]] and an UnstoppableRage BigBrotherInstinct moment when his brother and accomplice is hurt.
*** Fans love how Garrett is a suave, competent [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
** Emmitt LittlePartially is another particularly popular one-time character, partly for the gimmick novelty of his being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partially partly for being a HandicappedBadass Handicapped Badass who defends the WrongfullyAccused Clarence Montgomery.
** The unfortunate, yet compelling first-captured 63 Jack Sylvane.Montgomery.
** Pinky Ames and Garrett Stillman are both single episode characters, but their popularity equals or eclipses that of recurring, better-developed [[VillainOfTheWeek '63's]] like Jack Sylvane, Tommy Madsen and Ernest Cobb.
*** Pinky's popularity comes from his being a GeniusBruiser
** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
*** Fans love how Garrett is a suave, competent [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
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** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
** Emmitt Little Partially for the gimmick of being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partially for being a HandicappedBadass who defends Clarence Montgomery.
** The unfortunate, yet compelling first-captured 63 Jack Sylvane.
** GeniusBruiser Pinky Ames, with his gold heist scheme.
** Garrett Stillman, for being a suave [[TheChessmaster master planner]] who might be the only 63 in the show not to kill any innocents.
** Emmitt Little Partially for the gimmick of being a former prisoner who wasn't a one of the 63's and partially for being a HandicappedBadass who defends Clarence Montgomery.
** The unfortunate, yet compelling first-captured 63 Jack Sylvane.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/RamiMalek, whose biggest role at the time was in the Film/NightAtTheMuseum franchise, plays inmate Webb Porter in episode 11.
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** [[MadBomber Paxton Petty]] plants mines in public places and enjoys watching people get blown to pieces. During UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar, he planted mines in the local children's playgrounds to eliminate potential ChildSoldiers, for which he was arrested and sent to a military prison. After escaping Alcatraz, he starts to plant more mines around San Francisco (including in elementary school yards) to kill as many random civilians as possible. He [[LandMineGoesClick traps Agent Hauser on one of these mines]], but modifies the bomb in such a way that the bomb disposal expert who rescues Hauser would inevitably be killed during the dismantling procedure no matter what they did.
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** [[MadBomber Paxton Petty]] plants mines in public places and enjoys watching people get blown to pieces. During UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar, he planted mines in the local children's playgrounds to eliminate potential ChildSoldiers, for which he was arrested and sent to a military prison. After escaping Alcatraz, he starts to plant more mines around San Francisco (including Francisco--including in [[WouldHurtAChild elementary school yards) to schoolyards]]--to kill as many random civilians as possible. He [[LandMineGoesClick traps Agent Hauser on one of these mines]], but modifies the bomb in such a way that the bomb disposal expert who rescues Hauser would inevitably be killed during the dismantling procedure no matter what they did.
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** [[WouldHurtAChild Kit Nelson]] is a savage SerialKiller who is [[EvenEvilHasStandards despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz]]. He murdered his younger brother when they were both kids by strangling him to death. Then he placed a flower on his brother's bed, [[ThemeSerialKiller adopting this method]] for all his subsequent murders. He breaks into young boys' bedrooms at night to abduct them at knifepoint, threatening to kill their families if they don't comply. He forces them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, before strangling them to death with murderous glee. Afterwards he drops off the boys' bodies back in the place he abducted them from.
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** [[WouldHurtAChild Kit Nelson]] is a SerialKiller [[EvenEvilHasStandards despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz]]. He murdered his brother when he was an 11-year old boy by strangling him to death. He would later use his brother's death as a motif for all his subsequent murders. His pattern consisted of breaking into a young boy's bedroom at night and abducting the kid at knifepoint by threatening to kill his siblings or parents if he didn't comply, leaving a flower behind in his place. Then he would force them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, and strangle them to death in a bomb shelter with murderous glee. He drops off the boys' bodies back where he abducted them, their bedrooms.
** Paxton Petty is a MadBomber who plants mines in public places to enjoy watching people get blown apart. During the Korean War he planted mines in the local children's playgrounds to eliminate potential ChildSoldiers, for which he was sent to a military prison. After getting out he starts to plant more mines around San Francisco to kill as many random civilians as possible, including in elementary school yards. He traps Hauser on one of the mines, but modified the bomb such that the bomb disposal professional would inevitably be killed during the dismantling procedure no matter what they did.
** Paxton Petty is a MadBomber who plants mines in public places to enjoy watching people get blown apart. During the Korean War he planted mines in the local children's playgrounds to eliminate potential ChildSoldiers, for which he was sent to a military prison. After getting out he starts to plant more mines around San Francisco to kill as many random civilians as possible, including in elementary school yards. He traps Hauser on one of the mines, but modified the bomb such that the bomb disposal professional would inevitably be killed during the dismantling procedure no matter what they did.
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** [[WouldHurtAChild Kit Nelson]] is a Serial Killer SerialKiller [[EvenEvilHasStandards despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz]]. He murdered his brother when he was an 11-year old boy by strangling him to death. He would later use his brother's death as a motif for all his subsequent murders. His pattern consisted of breaking into a young boy's bedroom at night and abducting the kid at knifepoint by threatening to kill his siblings or parents if he didn't comply, leaving a flower behind in his place. Then he would force them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, and strangle them to death in a bomb shelter with murderous glee. He drops off the boys' bodies back where he abducted them, their bedrooms.
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** Kit Nelson is a [[WouldHurtAChild child serial killer]] despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz. He murdered his brother when he was an 11-year old boy by strangling him to death. He would later use his brother's death as a motif for all his subsequent murders. His pattern consisted of breaking into a young boy's bedroom at night and abduct the kid at knifepoint by threatening to kill his siblings or parents if he didn't comply, leaving a flower behind in his place. Then he would force them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, and strangle them to death in a bomb shelter with murderous glee. He drops off the boys' bodies back where he abducted them, their bedrooms. [[spoiler:He's one of the only criminals in the show to be killed instead of captured by Agent Hauser.]]
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** Kit Nelson is a [[WouldHurtAChild child serial killer]] Kit Nelson]] is a Serial Killer [[EvenEvilHasStandards despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz.Alcatraz]]. He murdered his brother when he was an 11-year old boy by strangling him to death. He would later use his brother's death as a motif for all his subsequent murders. His pattern consisted of breaking into a young boy's bedroom at night and abduct abducting the kid at knifepoint by threatening to kill his siblings or parents if he didn't comply, leaving a flower behind in his place. Then he would force them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, and strangle them to death in a bomb shelter with murderous glee. He drops off the boys' bodies back where he abducted them, their bedrooms. [[spoiler:He's one of the only criminals in the show to be killed instead of captured by Agent Hauser.]]
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** Kit Nelson is a serial child killer
*** So bad that even the other inmates of Alcatraz didn't like him and that's saying something.
** Paxton Petty was planting landmines in an elementary school playground and takes pleasure when his bombs kill people.
*** So bad that even the other inmates of Alcatraz didn't like him and that's saying something.
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** Kit Nelson is a [[WouldHurtAChild child serial child killer
*** So bad that evenkiller]] despised by all the other hardened inmates in Alcatraz. He murdered his brother when he was an 11-year old boy by strangling him to death. He would later use his brother's death as a motif for all his subsequent murders. His pattern consisted of Alcatraz breaking into a young boy's bedroom at night and abduct the kid at knifepoint by threatening to kill his siblings or parents if he didn't like him comply, leaving a flower behind in his place. Then he would force them to take part in his late brother's favorite hobbies for a few days, and that's saying something.
strangle them to death in a bomb shelter with murderous glee. He drops off the boys' bodies back where he abducted them, their bedrooms. [[spoiler:He's one of the only criminals in the show to be killed instead of captured by Agent Hauser.]]
** Paxton Petty is a MadBomber who plants mines in public places to enjoy watching people get blown apart. During the Korean War he planted mines in the local children's playgrounds to eliminate potential ChildSoldiers, for which he wasplanting landmines sent to a military prison. After getting out he starts to plant more mines around San Francisco to kill as many random civilians as possible, including in an elementary school playground yards. He traps Hauser on one of the mines, but modified the bomb such that the bomb disposal professional would inevitably be killed during the dismantling procedure no matter what they did.
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* NeedsMoreLove SugarWiki/NeedsMoreLove / ScrewedByTheNetwork: Come on, the series was flawed at points but it deserved at least one other series. (If nothing else, so we would know whether or not [[spoiler:Rebecca, you know, LIVED]].
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* NeedsMoreLove / ScrewedByTheNetwork: Come on, the series was flawed at points but it deserved at least one other series. (If nothing else, so we would no know whether or not [[spoiler:Rebecca, you know, LIVED]].
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series. (If nothing else, so we would no whether or not [[spoiler:Rebecca, you know, LIVED]].
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* FridgeLogic: If the 63s are all appearing on Alcatraz Island, why doesn't the main cast just set up a few cameras to monitor the outgoing ferry? A few people in the loop watching screens all day could probably stop many incoming 63s cold.
** Are ALL of them reappearing on the island, or just Sylvane?
** They could simply audit the ferry incoming/outgoing count, too. No need for cameras, just a clicker.
* FridgeLogic: How are the 63s able to get around San Francisco after 49 years? They lived on an isolated island and didn't get around the city, locations change, people move, there are currently no phone booths, phone books. Did they learn how to use GPS technology or the Internet while they were in limbo?
** Due to the fact that the force that made them jump forward in time in the first place is currently unknown, it's entirely possible that whoever or whatever did it ''gave'' them the knowledge to adapt to the modern world.
** Streets haven't changed all that much in the city core. Heck, they even still run some of the cable cars. SF was well established in the 1960s, and like most old cities, many things stay the same. All they need is a map. It's a reach to say you need a GPS to get around a city. People have traveled to worldwide cities for decades without need for 3-meter positional accuracy. And a most-wanted criminal is going to need to get used to getting around strange cities a lot.
** Are ALL of them reappearing on the island, or just Sylvane?
** They could simply audit the ferry incoming/outgoing count, too. No need for cameras, just a clicker.
* FridgeLogic: How are the 63s able to get around San Francisco after 49 years? They lived on an isolated island and didn't get around the city, locations change, people move, there are currently no phone booths, phone books. Did they learn how to use GPS technology or the Internet while they were in limbo?
** Due to the fact that the force that made them jump forward in time in the first place is currently unknown, it's entirely possible that whoever or whatever did it ''gave'' them the knowledge to adapt to the modern world.
** Streets haven't changed all that much in the city core. Heck, they even still run some of the cable cars. SF was well established in the 1960s, and like most old cities, many things stay the same. All they need is a map. It's a reach to say you need a GPS to get around a city. People have traveled to worldwide cities for decades without need for 3-meter positional accuracy. And a most-wanted criminal is going to need to get used to getting around strange cities a lot.
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** Are ALL of them reappearing on the island, or just Sylvane?
** They could simply audit the ferry incoming/outgoing count, too. No need for cameras, just a clicker.
* FridgeLogic: How are the 63s able to get around San Francisco after 49 years? They lived on an isolated island and didn't get around the city, locations change, people move, there are currently no phone booths, phone books. Did they learn how to use GPS technology or the Internet while they were in limbo?
** Due to the fact that the force that made them jump forward in time in the first place is currently unknown, it's entirely possible that whoever or whatever did it ''gave'' them the knowledge to adapt to the modern world.
** Streets haven't changed all that much in the city core. Heck, they even still run some of the cable cars. SF was well established in the 1960s, and like most old cities, many things stay the same. All they need is a map. It's a reach to say you need a GPS to get around a city. People have traveled to worldwide cities for decades without need for 3-meter positional accuracy. And a most-wanted criminal is going to need to get used to getting around strange cities a lot.
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