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** They did, actually. Rumor has it, a scene was written wherein Freddy confronted Robert Englund, appearing as a spider or something similar, but obviously )plans for) it got scrapped. However, the movie hints at Freddy sort of replacing Robert Englund, with Robert sort of phasing out as Freddy shows up more, so while it is indeed a wasted opportunity, it was at least considered and rather justified in its removal.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Outside of primarily ''Dream Warriors'' and ''New Nightmare'', every one of the sequels receives a sizeable amount of dislike.
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** The whole concept becomes significantly less scary when you remember that Freddy only kills in one suburb (a fictional one at that).
*** Though [[ItGotWorse it does get worse]] in one of the later films. In which he states "Every town has an Elm Street".
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** The whole concept becomes significantly less scary when you remember that Freddy only kills in one suburb (a fictional one at that).
*** Thoughthat), though [[ItGotWorse it does get worse]] in one of the later films. In ''Freddy's Dead'', in which he states "Every that "every town has an Elm Street".Street" and makes clear that he's planning to expand his reach to the whole world.
*** Though
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** Then you remember that Krueger was a child murderer in real life, so who's to say he would've been happy with just killing the kids of the parents who burned him alive. It could be seen as "unfinished business". He focused on revenge, now he's back to doing what he loves best: murdering kids because he's a psychopath.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made developed by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The the AngryVideoGameNerd, while the PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment - In the fourth film, Freddy is resurrected when Kincaid's dog pisses fire on his grave. It might be considered a joke since the dog's name is [[FridayThe13th Jason]].
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment - In the fourth film, Freddy is resurrected when Kincaid's dog pisses fire on his grave. It might be considered a joke since the dog's name is [[FridayThe13th [[Film/FridayThe13th Jason]].
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* VindicatedByVideo: The first movie did solid box-office business for a low budget 1984 movie, but it was the home video sales that really demonstrated what a money-maker Freddy could be.
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Even Robert Englund admitted he had nightmares with Freddy Krueger!
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** In ''Freddy's Dead'', Freddy kills a gamer by summoning the Power Glove. When TheAngryVideoGameNerd plays a ''Nightmare On Elm Street'' NES game, at the end of the video he gets in a fight with Freddy...and kills him using the Power Glove.
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** In ''Freddy's Dead'', Freddy kills a gamer by summoning controlling him with the Power Glove.Glove and forcing him into a pit. When TheAngryVideoGameNerd plays a ''Nightmare On Elm Street'' NES game, at the end of the video he gets in a fight with Freddy...and kills him using the Power Glove.
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** In ''Freddy's Dead'', Freddy kills a gamer by summoning the Power Glove. When TheAngryVideoGameNerd plays a ''Nightmare On Elm Street'' NES game, at the end of the video he gets in a fight with Freddy...and kills him using the Power Glove.
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Missed Moment Of Awesome is not \"they SHOULD have done it, it\'d be cool.\" It\'s \"they DID do it, and you never got to see it.\"
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: If you think about it, the events of ''New Nightmare'' could have been about Robert fighting Freddy Krueger.
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** No love for I'm Awake Now by the Goo Goo Dolls?
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*** Though [[ItGotWorse it does get worse]] in one of the later films. In which he states "Every town has an Elm Street".
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* HiddenDepths: Alice Johnson, as well as her friends Debbie in ''Dream Master'' and Greta in ''Dream Child''. Alice's character in ''Dream Master'' is a meek daydreamer who fantasizes about telling her alcoholic father off and asking hunky jock Dan Jordan out. By the movie's end, Alice has grown as a character and no longer relies on simply fantasizing about what she wants to do.
** Debbie, a punk girl with her own weight equipment who does bad in school... and also likes to watch ''{{Dynasty}}'', is terrified of cockroaches, and is friends with brainy girl Sheila and sticks up for her. When Sheila dies, you can tell from Debbie's voice she's trying her best not to break down.
** Greta, a rich girl who hopes to be a model and is at odds with her domineering mother Racine. Following Dan Jordan's death, it cuts to a scene of Greta looking at his picture in the yearbook and crying over it. This gives her depth in the sense that she truly cared about Dan, and her friends, and was more than a total knockout.
** Debbie, a punk girl with her own weight equipment who does bad in school... and also likes to watch ''{{Dynasty}}'', is terrified of cockroaches, and is friends with brainy girl Sheila and sticks up for her. When Sheila dies, you can tell from Debbie's voice she's trying her best not to break down.
** Greta, a rich girl who hopes to be a model and is at odds with her domineering mother Racine. Following Dan Jordan's death, it cuts to a scene of Greta looking at his picture in the yearbook and crying over it. This gives her depth in the sense that she truly cared about Dan, and her friends, and was more than a total knockout.
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** Then you remember that Krueger was a child murderer in real life, so who's to say he would've been happy with just killing the kids of the parents who burned him alive. It could be seen as "unfinished business". He focused on revenge, now he's back to doing what he loves best: murdering kids because he's a psychopath.
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I know it\'s a YMMV, but I\'m striking this because the entry says \"might actually accept as replacing\". It\'s not calling him superior, just a possibly good substitute.
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** YourMileageMayVary, a lot of people still prefer Robert Englund (nothing wrong with that). Somewhat understandable, since Robert Englund had played the role for so long, it's hard to see anyone else in the role.
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* TheScrappy: Dylan in "New Nightmare". How much peril do you have to get yourself into before you actually realise you should ''run'' from the undead serial killer? No... [[TooDumbToLive I didn't mean climb into a lit furnace...]].
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** "New Nightmare" has Freddy Krueger escape into the ''real world'' and they didn't ever consider having Robert Englund fight him?
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** The whole concept becomes significantly less scary when you remember that Freddy only kills in one suburb (a fictional one at that).
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: If you think about it, the events of ''New Nightmare'' could have been about Robert fighting Freddy Krueger.
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Love It Or Hate It is now In-Universe only.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The 2010 remake. You will either think it's a worthy remake and creative movie to the franchise, or schlock that [[RuinedForever ruins everything]] about the original movie. YourMileageMayVary on whether or not Jackie Earle Haley is a good Freddy or a terrible one.
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* NightmareRetardant: At the end of the first film, when [[spoiler:Freddy drags what is supposed to be Nancy's mother through the little window in her front door as a [[NotQuiteDead final scare]]. It's a [[{{Narm}} hilariously]] [[SpecialEffectsFailure obvious mannequin.]]]]
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Following his performance in ''{{Watchmen}}'', Jackie Earle Haley became pretty much the only person in the world people might actually accept as replacing Robert Englund as Freddy.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Following his performance in ''{{Watchmen}}'', Jackie Earle Haley JackieEarleHaley became pretty much the only person in the world people might actually accept as replacing Robert Englund as Freddy.
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* {{Narm}}: Dylan's CreepyChild antics in the ''New Nightmare''.
** Also, in the remake: Kris' death scene where she got slammed around the bedroom had [[{{Fencinator}} this troper]] and his friends giggling.
** The wizard master sequence from ''Dream Warriors''. All of it.
*** The victory pose and laugh Freddy's skeleton does after knocking Neil out.
** The dojo sequence in ''The Dream Master''.
** Mark, otherwise one of the more interesting characters in ''The Dream Child'', gets the goofiest dream scene in the movie when he turns into a superhero and Freddy does the same.
--->'''Freddy''': "Faster than a bastard maniac! More powerful than a loco-madman! It's... Super Freddy!"
** The end of ''New Nightmare'', when "Freddy" suddenly becomes [[ChewingTheScenery very hammy]], and LoweredMonsterDifficulty completely sets in.
** Also, in the remake: Kris' death scene where she got slammed around the bedroom had [[{{Fencinator}} this troper]] and his friends giggling.
** The wizard master sequence from ''Dream Warriors''. All of it.
*** The victory pose and laugh Freddy's skeleton does after knocking Neil out.
** The dojo sequence in ''The Dream Master''.
** Mark, otherwise one of the more interesting characters in ''The Dream Child'', gets the goofiest dream scene in the movie when he turns into a superhero and Freddy does the same.
--->'''Freddy''': "Faster than a bastard maniac! More powerful than a loco-madman! It's... Super Freddy!"
** The end of ''New Nightmare'', when "Freddy" suddenly becomes [[ChewingTheScenery very hammy]], and LoweredMonsterDifficulty completely sets in.
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* MotiveDecay: Subverted; after slaughtering the children of the parents of Springwood responsible for killing him, the film franchise changes Freddy's motives to [[OurSoulsAreDifferent collecting souls]] to increase his powers, occasionally trying to find a way to transfer his powers into the real world, and sometimes just [[AxeCrazy killing for the sake of killing]].
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** The ''premise alone'' qualifies, obviously. It's one thing when you fall off a cliff in your dreams and wake up safe at home seconds later. But it's [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent completely different]]'' when that can cross over into the ''real world''.
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* ItGetsBetter: ''New Nightmare''.
* ParanoiaFuel: In ''Dream Warriors'', one of the characters is having a dream where he is making out with a hot nurse...who turns out to be ''[[{{Squick}} Freddy in disguise]]''. Sweet dreams, everyone.
** It was going to be even worse originally: Freddy's head was going to be on the naked nurse's body.
** It was going to be even worse originally: Freddy's head was going to be on the naked nurse's body.
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* VillainSue: From about the third film onwards, Freddy was pretty much undefeatable except when he chose to be. It got to a point where audiences met ''Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare'' with total cynicism (note how hard the title has to work to establish that he's really going to die in this movie).
* TheWoobie: Amanda Krueger.
* TheWoobie: Amanda Krueger.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Johnny Depp tagged along to auditions for the first film with a friend. Wes Craven asked Depp to read as well, and Depp was cast other than the friend he was supporting. But fret not about the friend. 26 years later, Jackie Earle Haley would go on to play Freddy in the remake.
** Speaking of the remake, there's an interesting parallel between Marcus Yeon's final vidlog and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toXMt1rzdrA this viral clip]].
* HolyShitQuotient:
** Original: Glen's death.
** ''Freddy's Revenge:'' The opening bus ride.
** ''The Dream Master:'' The zoom out revealing Kincaid isn't just in a junkyard, he's on an entire planet covered in a labyrinth composed of scrapped cars.
** ''Dream Child:'' Alice dreams of her womb and her baby. [[spoiler: She's happy at first, until she realizes Freddy is there too, and has been feeding the souls of his victims to make the baby evil like him.]]
** ''Freddy's Dead:'' The house Tracy, Carlos and Spencer go into exploding into an exact replica of 1428 Elm Street.
** Speaking of the remake, there's an interesting parallel between Marcus Yeon's final vidlog and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toXMt1rzdrA this viral clip]].
* HolyShitQuotient:
** Original: Glen's death.
** ''Freddy's Revenge:'' The opening bus ride.
** ''The Dream Master:'' The zoom out revealing Kincaid isn't just in a junkyard, he's on an entire planet covered in a labyrinth composed of scrapped cars.
** ''Dream Child:'' Alice dreams of her womb and her baby. [[spoiler: She's happy at first, until she realizes Freddy is there too, and has been feeding the souls of his victims to make the baby evil like him.]]
** ''Freddy's Dead:'' The house Tracy, Carlos and Spencer go into exploding into an exact replica of 1428 Elm Street.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
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I\'m not comfortable with saying either game is \"generally frowned on\" or \"generally liked by those who played it\" - that\'s a lot of people to speak for, and the online review info is just mediocre for both.
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* {{Flanderization}}: Freddy himself. Part of the appeal of the character for the first couple of films was that unlike a lot of slasher film killers, Freddy talked and would make the occasional wisecrack to his victims as he kills them. Sadly, as the sequels progressed, the writers would make Freddy a literal wisecracking machine, with lame puns and other jokey dialogue. At the sixth film, he was completely comical and only his killing characters and his scary-ass look kept him from being dismissible as a joke. ''New Nightmare'' and ''Freddy vs. Jason'' reversed this decline, though ''Freddy vs. Jason'' still features callbacks to past one-liners, such as referring to an African American girl he kills as "Dark Meat" and playing pinball with Jason.
** According to interviews before it's release, ''Freddy vs. Jason's'' portrayal was intended as a sort of AdaptationDistillation. Using the wise-cracking nature of the later movies, but taking it to levels that they summed up as [[DudeNotFunny "A sick dog".]]
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
** According to interviews before it's release, ''Freddy vs. Jason's'' portrayal was intended as a sort of AdaptationDistillation. Using the wise-cracking nature of the later movies, but taking it to levels that they summed up as [[DudeNotFunny "A sick dog".]]
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The NES game published by LJN (but actually made by {{Rare}}) was giving a scathing review by [[AngryVideoGameNerd James]]. The PC game published by Westwood, based on ''Dream Warriors'', isn't well known to the general public.
