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* ''LawAndOrder'' episode 20-9m "For The Defense": Mike Cutter is lamenting the fact that a corrupt lawyer is threatening to use a prior sexual relationship with Connie to discredit her impending testimony. Cutter goes on and on about how bad an idea sleeping with a co-worker is and how stupid Connie was to put herself in that situation.\\
'''You'd expect''': For him not to go on like this to someone who has a well-known track record of office relationships. Especially when that person is Jack [=McCoy=], ''his boss.''\\
''Instead'': Cutter asks "What kind of person would put themselves in that position?" (Jack: You mean besides me?). Cutter keeps going, basically calling Jack and Connie idiots for engaging in said relationships.\\
''However'': The scene was clearly meant to display Cutter's feelings for Connie, and that those were throwing him off his game. At the end of the scene - after Cutter goes on a tangent stating that he and Connie were colleagues, and nothing more, Jack fixes him with a look that said "Which one of us are you trying to convince?"
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'''Instead''': The Master is apparently left [[WallBanger by himself with one sailor to guard him]] ''on a small hovercraft.'' He somehow has time to hypnotize the salor, place a PerfectLatexDisguise on him and palm him off as The Master's own corpse. Then, as The Doctor and the Royal Navy troops are gawking at the reveal, The Master makes off with the hovercraft. ''This was the serial that the Royal Navy chose, out of all ''Doctor Who'', to endorse and lend the BBC resources for.''

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'''Instead''': The Master is apparently left [[WallBanger by himself with one sailor to guard him]] him ''on a small hovercraft.'' He somehow has time to hypnotize the salor, place a PerfectLatexDisguise on him and palm him off as The Master's own corpse. Then, as The Doctor and the Royal Navy troops are gawking at the reveal, The Master makes off with the hovercraft. ''This was the serial that the Royal Navy chose, out of all ''Doctor Who'', to endorse and lend the BBC resources for.''
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*** Idiot, yes. Hero? Not by any definiton of the term that has existed in human history. That's kind of the point of the character: he's actually a [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]], problematised NiceGuy showing his true unintelligent, privileged, thoughtless JerkJock nature every time he moves. His actions around Quinn in this episode are part of that.

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*** Idiot, yes. Hero? ***Idiot, yes. Hero? Not by any definiton of the term that has existed in human history. history. That's kind of the point of the character: he's actually a [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]], problematised NiceGuy showing his true unintelligent, privileged, thoughtless JerkJock nature every time he moves. moves. His actions around Quinn in this episode are part of that.
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*** Idiot, yes. Hero? Not by any definiton of the term that has existed in human history. That's kind of the point of the character: he's actually a [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]], problematised NiceGuy showing his true unintelligent, privileged, thoughtless JerkJock nature every time he moves. His actions around Quinn in this episode are part of that.

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*** Idiot, yes. Hero? ***Idiot, yes. Hero? Not by any definiton of the term that has existed in human history. history. That's kind of the point of the character: he's actually a [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstructed]], problematised NiceGuy showing his true unintelligent, privileged, thoughtless JerkJock nature every time he moves. moves. His actions around Quinn in this episode are part of that.
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* In the ''DrakeAndJosh'' episode "My Dinner With Bobo", Dr. Favisham has locked the boys in his closet to keep them from saving Bobo. He asks to see their cellphones to prove that it has Bluetooth.\\
'''You'd expect''': That Josh would see through this, keep his phone away and try to get him and Drake out of there while Favisham was distracted.\\
'''Instead''': When Favisham opens the door, he holds his phone out, and Favisham takes it then proceeds to lock the door again. Seriously, you can ''immediately'' tell that things are going to go bad right when he opens the door. Drake even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this by saying, [[SarcasmMode "Yeah, nice going, BLUETOOTH!"]]
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** Brendon and Rachel. The two have a near ZeroPercentApprovalRating amongst the fanbase and have a social game that would make Jacob and Russell Hantz blush and say "At least we're not ''that'' bad." \\
'''You'd expect:''' That they would realize that they shouldn't be putting a huge target on their back and actually try not to get people to hate their guts and want them out not just because they're annoying but because they're threats. \\
'''Instead:''' Rachel proceeds to act the ''exact same'' she did before, throwing the word "Floater" around without knowing what it really means, accusing everyone of having "Bad gameplay" when she's the one making an ass of herself, and only has allies out of a couple sycophants (Porsche and Shelly, [[OutOfFocus not that you'd know that.]]) and two people who happened by fate to be put in a similar group to them (Jeff and Jordan) Brendon proceeds to immediately start playing hard from week one and paints a huge target on her back. Then, after Daniele flips for greener pastures, he tries to get her back on her side to save himself and Rachel...and tells Daniele that if he or Rachel made it to the finals that ''one of them would win''. He apparently never took into consideration that Daniele ''is another returning player'', finished ''in second place'' in season eight, and that he essentially told Daniele to align herself with him and Rachel because ''they could win in the finals''. Essentially, he was digging his own grave deeper and deeper

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* ''StarTrekVoyager:'' An earlier episode of The Next Generation had a wormhole with a stable entry point on one side, and a constantly jumping exit point on the other. Voyager finds this wormhole during the second season. They also find the Ferengi that were stranded in the Delta Quadrant, who have set themselves up as gods among a bronze-age people.\\

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** In "One Little Ship", a new generation of Jem'Hadar soldiers, the Alphas, manage to take the ''Defiant''. One of the older, Gamma quadrant soldiers serving as Second suggests they put the crew to death immediately, lest they try to take the ship back.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Alpha First listen. After all, the Gamma has probably done this before.\\
'''Instead:''' The First not only ignores his Second's suggestions, but pretty much lets the crew work on their own schedule. The Second makes every effort to cover for his superior's idiocy, but ultimately fails. If not for a timely rescue by Dax in a miniaturized runabout, the ship would have blown up the second it went to warp because the crew sabotaged it.
** In the two-parter "In Purgatory's Shadow"/"By Inferno's Light", Garak and Worf are captured in a runabout and taken to a asteroid prison.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Their ship be impounded, disassembled, or outright destroyed.\\
'''Instead:''' The ship is left, unguarded and completely active, in transporter range of the asteroid with no other ships in the vicinity. Escape is as simple as calling the runabout and having it beam them to safety.
* ''StarTrekVoyager:'' An earlier episode of The ''The Next Generation Generation'' had a wormhole with a stable entry point on one side, and a constantly jumping exit point on the other. Voyager ''Voyager'' finds this wormhole during the second season. They also find the Ferengi that were stranded in the Delta Quadrant, who have set themselves up as gods among a bronze-age people.\\
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* ''Lost'', Kate Austen is a prime example for this trope, partially because she always tries to get her way. In the Season 2 Episode "The Hunting Party", Jack tells Kate to stay behind and take care of the Button while he, Locke and Sawyer go after Michael.\\

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* In ''Lost'', Kate Austen is a prime example for this trope, partially because she always tries to get her way. In the Season 2 Episode "The Hunting Party", Jack tells Kate to stay behind and take care of the Button while he, Locke and Sawyer go after Michael.\\
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* ''Lost'', Kate Austen is a prime example for this trope, partially because she always tries to get her way. In the Season 2 Episode "The Hunting Party", Jack tells Kate to stay behind and take care of the Button while he, Locke and Sawyer go after Michael.\\
'''You'd expect''': As Jack has a perfectly good reason for asking Kate to stay behind, she should obviously just stay behind and push the damn Button. \\
'''Instead''': Butthurt that she was refused to opportunity to go along with the guys, she decides to follow them. As she isn't pretty good at that, she gets captured by the Others who then use her later as leverage to disarm Jack et al.
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*** Dale Stucky. Nuff said
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** '''Justification:''' George is the self-proclaimed Lord of the Idiots.
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'''Instead''': not only do they do nothing, they take the time to speculate whether the Doctor will ever encounter the Master again, as the villain escapes ''right in front of them''.\\

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'''Instead''': not only do they do nothing, they take the time to speculate whether the Doctor will ever encounter the Master again, as the villain escapes ''right in front of them''.
** Justified: [[strike: Callous observation and indifference is]] being a utter bastard and an idiot is the Time Lords thing.

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'''Instead''': not only do they do nothing, they take the time to speculate whether the Doctor will ever encounter the Master again, as the villain escapes ''right in front of them''.
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'''Plus''': The two Time Lords are rather elderly and not incredibly physical people who probably aren't going to be that effective against a psychopath like the Master, even in his current condition. Plus, by the time they realize what's actually happening, it's too late and his TARDIS is dematerializng, by which point there isn't exactly a lot they can do ''except'' comment on the situation.

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'''You'd expect:''' While Mac is sprawled on the ground, she walks one room back to retrieve the gun she lost earlier and [[JustShootHim just shoots him]].\\

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* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'': Rick and Glenn cover themselves with zombie guts and PretendWereDead to make it through a crowd of zombies to a construction site. Along the way, one of Georgia's famous cloud bursts begins, threatening to wash off the guts and reveal them.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Being familiar with the local weather and knowing summer storms don't last long, they'd just shamble under one of the many storefront awnings and wait for the rain to pass.\\
'''Instead''': They continue right down the center of the street until enough gore is washed off that they have to make a break for it, barely escaping with their lives.
'''However''': They were trying to get a truck to rescue their friends at a store being besieged by zombies. They probably assumed that they didn't have enough time to waste, which was true considering that by the time they got back with the truck the zombies had broken into the store.
* 13: Fear Is Real, "Alone": Adam is specifically told by Ted and Nasser that Erica is the killer, and from then on sticks to them like glue. When the group is taking showers, Adam realizes that the others are wearing boxers, and that he didn't bring any.
'''You'd Expect''': Adam to either shower nude, wait for Ted or Nasser to finish and go back to the room together, or at the very least try to sneak back to his room if he's going alone.

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* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'': Rick ''13: Fear Is Real'', "Alone": Adam is specifically told by Ted and Glenn cover themselves with zombie guts Nasser that Erica is the killer, and PretendWereDead from then on sticks to make it through a crowd of zombies to a construction site. Along them like glue. When the way, one of Georgia's famous cloud bursts begins, threatening to wash off group is taking showers, Adam realizes that the guts others are wearing boxers, and reveal them.that he didn't bring any.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Being familiar with the local weather and knowing summer storms don't last long, they'd just shamble under one of the many storefront awnings and wait for the rain to pass.\\
'''Instead''': They continue right down the center of the street until enough gore is washed off that they have to make a break for it, barely escaping with their lives.
'''However''': They were trying to get a truck to rescue their friends at a store being besieged by zombies. They probably assumed that they didn't have enough time to waste, which was true considering that by the time they got back with the truck the zombies had broken into the store.
* 13: Fear Is Real, "Alone": Adam is specifically told by Ted and Nasser that Erica is the killer, and from then on sticks to them like glue. When the group is taking showers, Adam realizes that the others are wearing boxers, and that he didn't bring any.
'''You'd Expect''': Adam to either shower nude, wait for Ted or Nasser to finish and go back to the room together, or at the very least try to sneak back to his room if he's going alone.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' That, knowing this information, Janeway could have come back home as a legend and still kept Chakotay and Seven alive by not assigning them to away missions. Plus, the ship now has advanced Borg armor that would repel any ship-to-ship attack.\\
'''Instead:''' She (with the help of her counterpart) destroys a Transwarp Hub and sails right on home, content in the knowledge that she's saved a few more crewmembers at the cost of thousands - if not tens of thousands - of people who would potentially benefit from Voyager's assistance. Not to mention all the technology and information they would pick up along the way. Oh, and the Borg have assimilated Voyager's armor technology, so that advantage is gone.

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'''You'd Expect:''' That, knowing this information, Janeway could have come back home as a legend and still kept Chakotay and Seven alive by not assigning them to away missions. Plus, the ship now has advanced Borg armor that would repel any ship-to-ship attack.most enemy attacks.\\
'''Instead:''' She (with the help of her counterpart) destroys a Transwarp Hub and sails right on home, content in the knowledge that she's saved a few more crewmembers at the cost of thousands - if not tens of thousands - of people who would potentially benefit from Voyager's assistance. Not to mention all the technology and information they would pick up along the way. Oh, and the Borg have assimilated Voyager's armor technology, so that advantage is gone.



'''Instead''': only Kristina realizes this while everyone else except Francesca seems to be staring at Rob awestruck and then looking at Phillip asking, "Is this guy serious?". Kristina then goes on to find the hidden immunity idol ''[[BeyondTheImpossible within the first three days]]'' and immediately intends to use it to get Rob out of the game. They then vote out Kristina and Francesca and let Rob do all the work for him, letting it progress into the solo game when the producers throw puzzle after puzzle after puzzle at Rob (The only challenges he gets to compete in, mind you) and are then ''surprised'' that Rob seems to be taking someone with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating amongst each other (Phillip and Natalie) over them. The Ometepe tribe definitely earns the award for the ''dumbest'' tribe ''ever'' to play the game of ''{{Survivor}}'', as well as the most ''boring''. \\

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'''Instead''': only Kristina realizes this while everyone else except Francesca seems to be staring at Rob awestruck and then looking at Phillip asking, "Is this guy serious?". Kristina then goes on to find the hidden immunity idol ''[[BeyondTheImpossible within the first three days]]'' and immediately intends to use it to get Rob out of the game. They then vote out Kristina and Francesca and let Rob do all the work for him, letting it progress into the solo game when the producers throw puzzle after puzzle after puzzle at Rob (The only challenges he gets to compete in, mind you) and are then ''surprised'' that Rob seems to be taking someone with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating amongst each other (Phillip and Natalie) over them. The Ometepe tribe definitely earns the award for the ''dumbest'' tribe ''ever'' to play the game of ''{{Survivor}}'', as well as the most ''boring''. \\
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*** And from the same season, the Ometepe tribe managed to pull this and held an IdiotBall for the ''entire season'', shattering the record set by ''Samoa''. One tribe gets Russell, and they get Boston Rob. Now they've all seen Russell play, and they have also seen Rob play and even ''knew'' who he was. \\
'''You'd Expect''': That they'd realize that he is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and should get him out ASAP because he's got a ''huge'' target on his back, has more experience, has the producers on his side, there is nothing saying you can't immediately vote him out. \\
'''Instead''': only Kristina realizes this while everyone else except Francesca seems to be staring at Rob awestruck and then looking at Phillip asking, "Is this guy serious?". Kristina then goes on to find the hidden immunity idol ''[[BeyondTheImpossible within the first three days]]'' and immediately intends to use it to get Rob out of the game. They then vote out Kristina and Francesca and let Rob do all the work for him, letting it progress into the solo game when the producers throw puzzle after puzzle after puzzle at Rob (The only challenges he gets to compete in, mind you) and are then ''surprised'' that Rob seems to be taking someone with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating amongst each other (Phillip and Natalie) over them. The Ometepe tribe definitely earns the award for the ''dumbest'' tribe ''ever'' to play the game of ''{{Survivor}}'', as well as the most ''boring''. \\

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** ''Heroes Vs Villains'': The Villains tribe has been losing members recently, and some of the Heroes have noticed that they have been mostly male; assuming that a women's alliance is targeting them (a bad move on its own, but not the ''really'' stupid part). The merge was coming up and people were starting to consider how to deal with new tribemates.\\
'''You'd expect''': Tribes don't really worry about each other until after the merge; they only see each other at challenges anyway and that's not enough time to get a good read on the opposition.\\
'''Instead''': Hero tribe leader JT passes his hidden immunity idol to Russell, the last male Villain, hoping he'll save himself from the women and join the Heroes against them post-merge. In reality, Russell ''leads'' the Villains. JT's idol gets used against him by Russell's ally after the merge happens in the very next episode.\\
'''Justification (sort of)''': Russell's original season hadn't aired yet at the time of filming, so nobody could know how much of a schemer he was or that he had a knack for finding hidden immunity idols. However, being an unknown quantity should have made JT ''more'' paranoid if anything, even without the tip-off that Russell was classified a "Villain".

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** ''Heroes Vs Vs. Villains'': The Late in the season, the Villains tribe has been losing members recently, outnumber the Heroes. Sandra (a Villain) goes to Colby and some of Rupert (the two Heroes left) and tells them that Russell can't be trusted. She explains that he played the Heroes have noticed team for fools when they gave him their hidden immunity idol, and that they have he's the one who's been mostly male; assuming leading the rest of the female Villains (as well as being the one that a women's destroyed Sandra's alliance is targeting with Courtney). She tells them (a bad move on its own, but not this no less than three times in the ''really'' stupid part). The merge was coming up and people were starting to consider how to deal with new tribemates.span of two episodes.\\
'''You'd expect''': Tribes don't really worry about each other until after Expect''': That, given how Russell already played an immunity idol post-merge and knocked out JT (after telling the merge; Heroes that he had previously played it to save himself, something that never happened), and already showed that he broke his word multiple times, they only see each other would at challenges anyway least try Sandra's advice and that's not enough time to get knock out Russell before he becomes a good read on the opposition.bigger threat.\\
'''Instead''': Hero tribe leader JT passes his hidden immunity idol to Russell, the last male Villain, hoping he'll save himself from the women They don't, and join the Heroes against them post-merge. In reality, Russell ''leads'' the Villains. JT's idol gets used against him both get systematically eliminated by Russell's ally after alliance, leaving only the merge happens Villains left in the very next episode.\\
'''Justification (sort of)''': Russell's original season hadn't aired yet at
final three. Sandra proceeds to call Colby and Rupert out on this during the time of filming, so nobody could know how much of a schemer he was or that he had a knack for finding hidden immunity idols. However, being an unknown quantity should have made JT ''more'' paranoid if anything, even without the tip-off that Russell was classified a "Villain".final Tribal Council meeting.
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* ''{{Doctor Who}}'', a 1970s example. In ''Invasion of the Dinosaurs'' episode 3, Sarah Jane decides to take pictures of a chained, sedated Tyrannosaurus Rex.\\

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* ''{{Doctor Who}}'', new series example: In ''The Sound Of Drums'', the Doctor, Martha, and Jack find the [[CoolShip TARDIS]], which has been turned into a Paradox Machine by the [[MagnificentBastard Master]]. The Doctor states that it's too dangerous to do anything with the Machine until it's activated and he can find out what the exact paradox is that the Machine will create.\\

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** '''Instead:''' The BBC [[ExecutiveMeddling do nothing about it]], despite viewer protests. But they don't ignore viewer feedback on ''DoctorWho'' or ''{{Eastenders}}''.

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'''You'd expect''': Melinda to admit fault on throwing away the undercooked spaghetti, but point out that the reason why she'd had to ditch most of the other spaghetti was because Tek kept ruining the scallops, which required the entire dish to be recooked.\\
'''Instead''': She spends the next five minutes with a deer-in-the-headlights expression on her face and acts as if she's totally unaware of the fact that Ramsay is yelling at her and trying to extract an explanation. This proved fatal as, despite Amanda and Lovely making far worse mistakes in the service, Ramsay eliminated Melinda that night for her spaced-outness the amount of spaghetti she supposedly wasted.
** The following episode saw both teams lose, and Joseph was deemed the best member of his team, allowing him to pick two for potential elimination from his team. Gordon asks Joseph what two members on his team were picked to be removed and why.\\

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'''You'd expect''': Melinda to admit fault on throwing away the undercooked spaghetti, but point out that the reason why she'd she had to ditch most of the other spaghetti was because Tek kept ruining the scallops, which required the entire dish to be recooked.recooked. Additionally, she wasn't even the person who wasted most of the spaghetti; that was Lovely, who had abandoned her station for a snack break five minutes beforehand.\\
'''Instead''': She spends the next five minutes with a deer-in-the-headlights expression on her face and acts as if she's totally unaware of the fact that Ramsay is yelling at her and trying to extract an explanation. This proved fatal as, despite Amanda and Lovely making far worse mistakes in the service, Ramsay eliminated Melinda that night for her spaced-outness and the amount of spaghetti she supposedly wasted.
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** In the first episode of season 5, Summer, Lee and Lenny got brought into the boardroom by team leader Tarek. Summer initially looked to be in trouble after Donald Trump's assistant Carolyn accused her of not doing anything during the task, but Lenny came to her defense, seemingly saving her. Trump's other assistant, George started putting the screws on Tarek, questioning him as to why the team were giving away empty gift bags, which Tarek proudly defended as being a good idea. Before long, Lee, Lenny and Carolyn were laughing their asses off at Tarek, and even Trump said he found Tarek's decisions laughable.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Summer to say and do nothing. Hell, even join in with enjoying a few good laughs at Tarek's expense.\\
'''Instead''': She starts talking over Trump and saying that she wanted to tell the truth about Tarek. Trump got extremely annoyed by this and Lee and Lenny kept trying to get her to shut up, but Summer kept talking over Trump, getting him more and more pissed off until he eventually fired her.


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** During a fish selling task in the first episode of season 4, Nicholas committed a mistake when he priced lobsters at £5 each, and found himself in the boardroom as a result. The team leader, Alex mentioned prior the boardroom that he considered Nicholas a serious boardroom threat because he's a solicitor by trade, and therefore should be able to defend himself well under pressure.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Nicholas to do just that by pointing out that Alex had given him the £5 figure without bothering to specify whether it was meant to apply by weight or by unit. Moreover, Alex never spotted the error, and Nicholas himself actually realised the mistake by checking another fishmonger's stand. For an added bonus, Nicholas could have pointed out that a big reason why they lost the task was because Michael sold £150 worth of fish for £45, and criticised Alex for not bringing back Michael.\\
'''Instead''': Nicholas does none of that, and instead starts talking about how he finds it difficult to get on with people who are less educated, and in particular people who like football. For reference, Sir Alan Sugar left school without any qualifications, and owned football team Tottenham Hotspur for 11 years. To the surprise of absolutely no-one but himself, Nicholas was fired.
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'''Instead''' He does so when Seven is literally standing ''right next to him'', forcing the Doc to admit to betting on her performance. She is righteously pissed, and storms out, helpfully enraging the extremely drunk ambassador on the way.\\

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'''For added stupidity:''' This already happened to the Feds... and it turned out to be an intelligence test (TAS novel).

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** In "Someone to Watch Over Me", the Doctor and Paris have a bet going to see if he can teach Seven how to go on a date without being her usual overbearing self. After an early attempt is messed up by Seven tearing the guy's ligament during a dance, the Doctor takes her himself for the "final exam", so to speak, which is a dinner being held for an alien ambassador. The Doctor's teachings work, and Seven does splendidly.\\
'''You'd Expect''' Paris to wait until after the dinner to settle their bet.\\
'''Instead''' He does so when Seven is literally standing ''right next to him'', forcing the Doc to admit to betting on her performance. She is righteously pissed, and storms out, helpfully enraging the extremely drunk ambassador on the way.\\
'''For Added Stupidity''' This can't even be excused as Paris being vindictive about losing. He seems to have completely forgotten Seven was standing there, as he hastily tries to take responsibility when she gets mad about it.

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'''Instead''': Picard implicitly trusts Lore, believing he's Data, even when he does things that Data wouldn't do. Even worse, Wesley explicitly tries to point out the possibility to Picard, and Picard for some reason ignores him. Sure, he's TheWesley, but that ''does'' mean he has a tendency to be right. The only reason everyone on the Enterprise didn't die due to Picard's appalling stupidity is that TheWesley goes against orders and manages to save the day. Just for the record, [[FanDumb Kirk would never have made that mistake.]]
** '''However''': Being TheWesley means you're right because the writers say so, and it especially means that you will be persecuted for it. Reality will contort in whatever way is necessary for this to happen, even smart people like Picard will grab the ''IdiotBall'' in order to accommodate your vindication.

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'''Instead''': Picard implicitly trusts Lore, believing he's Data, even when he does things that Data wouldn't do. Even worse, Wesley explicitly tries to point out the possibility to Picard, and Picard for some reason ignores him. Sure, he's TheWesley, but that ''does'' mean he has a tendency to be right. The only reason everyone on the Enterprise didn't die due to Picard's appalling stupidity is that TheWesley goes against orders and manages to save the day. Just for the record, [[FanDumb Kirk would never have made that mistake.]]
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'''However''': Being TheWesley means you're right because the writers say so, and it especially means that you will be persecuted for it. Reality will contort in whatever way is necessary for this to happen, even smart people like Picard will grab the ''IdiotBall'' in order to accommodate your vindication.



'''Instead:''' She (with the help of her counterpart) destroys a Transwarp Hub and sails right on home, content in the knowledge that she's saved a few more crewmembers at the cost of thousands - if not tens of thousands - of people who would potentially benefit from Voyager's assistance. Not to mention all the technology and information they would pick up along the way.
** In the episode "Timeless", Harry Kim and Tom Paris come up with a transwarping method of travel that will carry them right to Earth's front door - but they have to make constant course corrections. A future version of Harry Kim rewrites the past so that the ship drops out of transwarp after two or three minutes in its trial run, so that it doesn't crash and kill the crew.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Harry to realize the technology works (but in short intervals), and use transwarp to "puddle-jump" the ship all the way to Earth. After all, it worked while being sustained for 2-3 minutes every time. The crew (including Harry) know this fact for certain, and discuss it at length.\\

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'''Instead:''' She (with the help of her counterpart) destroys a Transwarp Hub and sails right on home, content in the knowledge that she's saved a few more crewmembers at the cost of thousands - if not tens of thousands - of people who would potentially benefit from Voyager's assistance. Not to mention all the technology and information they would pick up along the way.
way. Oh, and the Borg have assimilated Voyager's armor technology, so that advantage is gone.
** In the episode "Timeless", Harry Kim and Tom Paris come up with a transwarping method of travel that will carry them right manage to Earth's front door - but build a slipstream drive like the one on the alien ship from "Hope and Fear". Problem is, it destabilizes after a few minutes, so they have to make constant course corrections.corrections. Harry tries but can't keep up, killing the entire crew except himself and Chakotay. A future version of Harry Kim rewrites the past so that the ship drops out of transwarp after two or three minutes in its trial run, so that it doesn't crash and kill the crew.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Harry to realize the technology works (but in short intervals), intervals, and use transwarp it to "puddle-jump" the ship all the way to Earth. After all, it worked while being sustained for 2-3 minutes every time.if you have a proven window of stability, then you can just stop before passing that window. The crew (including Harry) know this fact for certain, and discuss it at length.\\



** Ever notice how there's a disproportionately high number of What An Idiot moments for this Star Trek series?
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'''However''': They were trying to get a truck to rescue their friends at a store being besieged by zombies. They probably assumed that they didn't have enough time to waste, which was true considering that by the time they got back with the truck the zombies had broken into the store.

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'''ItGotWorse''': By the time "Ballads" rolls around, he decides that the best thing to do is to tell Quinn's even more conservatively Christian parents about her pregnancy. By singing 'You're Having My Baby' to her. At their dinner table. The first time he has been formally introduced to them. The scene ends with Quinn's father giving her thirty minutes - by the microwave timer - to pack her clothes and get out of the house, and is it any wonder?

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'''ItGotWorse''': By the time "Ballads" rolls around, he decides that the best thing to do is to tell Quinn's even more conservatively Christian parents about her pregnancy. By singing 'You're Having My Baby' to her. At their dinner table. The first time he has been formally introduced to them. The scene ends with Quinn's father giving her thirty minutes - by the microwave timer - to pack her clothes and get out of the house, and is it any wonder?wonder?\\
'''However''': The confession was arguably supposed to be a {{Deconstruction}} of how singing one's feelings can get one out of trouble in standard musicals. Also, Finn is an IdiotHero. It's still dumb, but ''deliberately'' so, and in-character.
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** ''Nicaragua'': It's the final six, Jane feels a bit on the outs in her four-person alliance with Chase, Sash, and Holly. The alliance's immediate target Fabio wins Immunity, and he tries to protect his ally Dan by convincing Chase that Jane's the bigger threat. Chase immediately takes the idea to Sash and Holly, and the three soon resolve to vote Jane off (forgetting, incidentally, that Fabio made the suggestion in the first place).\\
'''You'd Expect''': That they would blindside Jane. Dan and Fabio want her gone, and Chase and Sash are the ones with hidden Immunity Idols, so there wouldn't be any real way that she could protect herself if votes were cast her way.\\
'''Instead''': The ''tell Jane to her face'' that she's the next to go. Not only does Jane reveal the alliance at Tribal that night, but now Chase and Sash ''have'' to take Holly with them to the Final Three, lest they have a vicious attempt on Jane's part to turn the jury towards Dan or Fabio.
** ''Redemption Island'' sees ''Russell'' getting hit with this trope. To elaborate, this is the first season that he's playing on the same tribe as people that have seen him in action before; they know just what and how he does things in the game. One of the first things he does is promise his tribe that he'll be playing a different game this time.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Russell would actually play a different game this time, or at least pretend to do so until the merge, when he would likely have the superior numbers.\\
'''Instead''': He plays the same exact game that he always does, from swiping clues to the Hidden Immunity Idol to forming an alliance with two girls. Not surprisingly, he's marked as a threat, his tribe throws a challenge to off him, and he ends up being the second person eliminated altogether.
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'''You'd Expect''': They would read their history and act accordingly.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': They The colonists would read their history and act accordingly.\\
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** The colonists in ''Power of the Daleks''. Daleks have conquered the Earth ''twice''! Now there are three on a derelict ship.\\
'''You'd Expect''': They would read their history and act accordingly.\\
'''Instead''' They accept these supposed servants at face value.
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*13: Fear Is Real, "Alone": Adam is specifically told by Ted and Nasser that Erica is the killer, and from then on sticks to them like glue. When the group is taking showers, Adam realizes that the others are wearing boxers, and that he didn't bring any.
'''You'd Expect''': Adam to either shower nude, wait for Ted or Nasser to finish and go back to the room together, or at the very least try to sneak back to his room if he's going alone.
'''Instead''': He rushes up to his room as noisily as possible, alerting Erica to his presence and resulting in his getting "killed off."

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