History WesternAnimation / TheIncredibles

24th Jun '18 10:41:47 AM name_already_chosen
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* BadassCape: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]. In real life, these things are cumbersome at best and dangerous to the wearer at worst. [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Also very difficult]] [[NoFlowInCGI to render in CGI.]]

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* BadassCape: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]. In real life, these things are cumbersome at best and dangerous to the wearer at worst. In [[RealLife actual time periods]] such as the [[TheCavalierYears swashbuckling]] eras, capes were worn specifically to signify that the wearer had no intention of fighting: taking off the cape was the [[TheCoatsAreOff sign that the wearer was now willing]] to use his (or her) sword. [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Also very difficult]] [[NoFlowInCGI to render in CGI.]]
24th Jun '18 8:03:21 AM TangyMango
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* SuperheroesWearCapes: A DefiedTrope by Edna Mode because they are impractical at best and fatally dangerous at worst.

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* SuperheroesWearCapes: A DefiedTrope by Edna Mode because they are impractical at best and fatally dangerous at worst. Again:
-->"No capes!"
24th Jun '18 5:19:01 AM rva98014
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. One item of law that may have helped Mr. Incredible in this case would have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble from prosecution or litigation, but the world of ''The Incredibles'' is an AlternateUniverse that differs not only in the fact that superheroes actually exist, but the fact that the Sansweet lawsuit apparently happens in the late 40's, which is early enough that these laws didn't exist yet (they were established in the 1990s -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euhroKGAN0 timeline explanation in this "Film Theorists" video]]) and thus the government didn't have the safe holds in place necessary for that specific legal angle, which meant a precedent that snowballed out of control. Also back then suicide wasn't illegal in every state.

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: Possibly. In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. One item of law that may grounds or Good Samaritan laws could have helped Mr. Incredible in this case would have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Incredible's case. The challenge is that both suicide and Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble laws vary from prosecution or litigation, but the world of ''The Incredibles'' is an AlternateUniverse that differs not only in the fact that superheroes actually exist, but the fact that the Sansweet lawsuit apparently happens in the late 40's, which is early enough that these laws didn't exist yet (they were established in the 1990s -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euhroKGAN0 timeline explanation in this "Film Theorists" video]]) and thus the government didn't have the safe holds in place necessary for that specific legal angle, which meant a precedent that snowballed out of control. Also back then suicide jurisdiction to jurisdiction [[note]]suicide wasn't illegal in every state.state and some Good Samaritan laws don't apply to official rescuers like EMTS or police and the superheros were sponsored by the goverment [[/note]] and the time period of the film is nebulous. However, the legal issue is addressed "in-universe" because the lawsuit is upheld by the "superior court" which opens the floodgates for other superhero lawsuits and eventually leads to the passage of the Super Relocation Act.
24th Jun '18 12:12:20 AM marcoasalazarm
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. One item of law that may have helped Mr. Incredible in this case would have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble from prosecution or litigation, but the world of ''The Incredibles'' is an AlternateUniverse that differs not only in the fact that superheroes actually exist, but the fact that the Sansweet lawsuit apparently happens in the late 40's, which is early enough that these laws didn't exist yet (they were established in the 1990s -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euhroKGAN0 timeline explanation in this "Film Theorists" video]]) and thus the government didn't have the safe holds in place necessary for that specific legal angle, which meant a precedent that snowballed out of control.
** Actually completely justified, as the film takes place ''before'' Good Samaritan laws were passed in the U.S., and suicide wasn't illegal in every state.

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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. One item of law that may have helped Mr. Incredible in this case would have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble from prosecution or litigation, but the world of ''The Incredibles'' is an AlternateUniverse that differs not only in the fact that superheroes actually exist, but the fact that the Sansweet lawsuit apparently happens in the late 40's, which is early enough that these laws didn't exist yet (they were established in the 1990s -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euhroKGAN0 timeline explanation in this "Film Theorists" video]]) and thus the government didn't have the safe holds in place necessary for that specific legal angle, which meant a precedent that snowballed out of control.
** Actually completely justified, as the film takes place ''before'' Good Samaritan laws were passed in the U.S., and
control. Also back then suicide wasn't illegal in every state.
24th Jun '18 12:10:26 AM marcoasalazarm
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. One item of law that may have helped Mr. Incredible in this case would have been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble from prosecution or litigation, but the world of ''The Incredibles'' is an AlternateUniverse that differs not only in the fact that superheroes actually exist, but the fact that the Sansweet lawsuit apparently happens in the late 40's, which is early enough that these laws didn't exist yet (they were established in the 1990s -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2euhroKGAN0 timeline explanation in this "Film Theorists" video]]) and thus the government didn't have the safe holds in place necessary for that specific legal angle, which meant a precedent that snowballed out of control.
** Actually completely justified, as the film takes place ''before'' Good Samaritan laws were passed in the U.S., and suicide wasn't illegal in every state.
23rd Jun '18 11:44:27 PM rva98014
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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: This gets taken UpToEleven. Mr. Incredible rescues Oliver Sansweet from jumping to his death in mid-jump. The man sues him, and the resulting backlash from the court loss causes other superheroes to get sued and eventually forcing all supers to have to retire from hero work and take on normal identities.

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: This gets taken UpToEleven. Mr. Incredible rescues saves Oliver Sansweet from jumping to his death in mid-jump. The man and Sansweet sues him, and him. The lawsuit is upheld by the resulting backlash from "superior court" which opens the court loss causes floodgates for other superheroes to get sued and superhero lawsuits. This eventually forcing forces all supers to have to retire from hero work and take on normal identities.
23rd Jun '18 9:29:45 PM rva98014
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* InterruptedSuicide: Mr. Incredible rescues Oliver Sansweet from committing suicide -- in gratitude, Sansweet fills out a lawsuit[[note]]In {{Real Life}}, such a lawsuit forbidden due to committing illegal actions, including suicide[[/note]]

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* InterruptedSuicide: Mr. Incredible rescues Oliver Sansweet from committing suicide -- in gratitude, Sansweet fills out a lawsuit[[note]]In {{Real Life}}, such files a lawsuit forbidden due to committing illegal actions, including suicide[[/note]]against him.
23rd Jun '18 5:56:23 PM gjjones
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** If Mr. Incredible had not saved the life of a suicidal man, not only would he not have been sued, but the railroad track would not have been blown up and his loss in the subsequent lawsuit would not have happened, and the entire Super Relocation Act would likely not have gone ahead.

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** If Mr. Incredible had not saved the life of a suicidal man, rescued Oliver Sansweet, not only would he not have been sued, but the railroad track would not have been blown up and his loss in the subsequent lawsuit would not have happened, and the entire Super Relocation Act would likely not have gone ahead.



* InterruptedSuicide: Mr. Incredible saves someone_and in gratitude the suicidal man, Oliver Sansweet, fills out a lawsuit[[note]]In {{Real Life}}, such a lawsuit forbidden due to committing illegal actions, including suicide[[/note]]
-->'''Man:''' You didn't save my life, you ruined my death!

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* InterruptedSuicide: Mr. Incredible saves someone_and in gratitude the suicidal man, rescues Oliver Sansweet, Sansweet from committing suicide -- in gratitude, Sansweet fills out a lawsuit[[note]]In {{Real Life}}, such a lawsuit forbidden due to committing illegal actions, including suicide[[/note]]
-->'''Man:''' -->'''Sansweet:''' You didn't save my life, you ruined my death!



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: This gets taken UpToEleven. Mr. Incredible saves a suicidal man from jumping to his death in mid-jump. The man sues him, and the resulting backlash from the court loss causes other superheroes to get sued and eventually forcing all supers to have to retire from hero work and take on normal identities.

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: This gets taken UpToEleven. Mr. Incredible saves a suicidal man rescues Oliver Sansweet from jumping to his death in mid-jump. The man sues him, and the resulting backlash from the court loss causes other superheroes to get sued and eventually forcing all supers to have to retire from hero work and take on normal identities.



* UngratefulBastard: Bob saves Oliver Sansweet by catching him mid-fall. Turns out he didn't want to be saved, and successfully sues Bob for damages.
* UnwantedRescue: Mr. Incredible gets ''sued'' for saving the life of Oliver Sansweet, who tried to commit suicide.

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* UngratefulBastard: Bob saves Oliver rescues Sansweet from committing suicide by catching him mid-fall. Turns It later turns out he didn't want to be saved, and successfully sues Bob for damages.
* UnwantedRescue: Mr. Incredible gets ''sued'' for saving the life of rescuing Oliver Sansweet, who tried to commit suicide.
23rd Jun '18 9:01:56 AM AustinDR
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* FantasticRacism: Because of events such as Mr. Incredible accidentally injuring a man when said man tried to kill himself, supers were made illegal and forced to relocate. Additionally, Syndrome's grand scheme of getting revenge on Mr. Incredible led to a decrease in the super population by mass murdering any super he lured to his island.
22nd Jun '18 8:15:02 AM rva98014
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the real world, attempted suicide is actually illegal and Oliver Sansweet's lawsuit should have been dismissed on those grounds. Also the world of ''The Incredibles'' appears to be lacking any type of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law Good Samaritan laws]] which protect those who try to help others in trouble from prosecution or litigation.
** Actually completely justified, as the film takes place ''before'' Good Samaritan laws were passed in the U.S., and suicide wasn't illegal in every state.
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