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** Dorothy mentions that Billie and Walky argued like this. See RedEyesTakeWarning for how ''that'' comment was received.

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** Dorothy mentions that Billie and Walky argued like this. See RedEyesTakeWarning for how ''that'' comment was received.they're married, which pisses them off.


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-->'''Char:''' Yeah, and take your [[AmbiguousDisorder retarded kid]] with you!\\

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-->'''Char:''' Yeah, and take your [[AmbiguousDisorder retarded kid]] kid with you!\\
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** Dina is making an effort to be more social lately (in her own [[AmbiguousDisorder Aspergers' like way]]) and is clearly bothered by how other people perceive/treat her.

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** Dina is making an effort to be more social lately (in her own [[AmbiguousDisorder Aspergers' like way]]) way) and is clearly bothered by how other people perceive/treat her.
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''[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/home/ Dumbing of Age]]'' is a SliceOfLife {{webcomic}} by David Willis, set at Indiana University and revolving around the freshman class of [[WebcomicTime whatever year this is.]] Though it has multiple characters, its primary focus is on Joyce Brown, a naive fundamentalist Christian with a friendly demeanor and a rigid but upbeat outlook on life, and her unlikely best friend Dorothy Keener, an ambitious atheist and pre-law student. Also along for the ride are Joyce's roommate, a snarky, nigh-misanthropic sophomore named Sarah Clinton, and their next-door neighbors, alcoholic and wannabe-AlphaBitch Jennifer "Billie" Billingsworth and BookDumb, badass-incarnate Sal Walkerton. And then there's local [[SuperHero vigilante]] [[BadassNormal Amazi-Girl]], secretly fellow freshman Amber O'Malley, who uses the alter-ego to compartmentalize her anger issues. All these people have assorted friends and relations, any of whom are capable of taking center-stage at any time--it's probably a good idea to take a look at the [[Characters/DumbingOfAge character sheet]] to get a sense of the sheer scope of the work.

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''[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/home/ Dumbing of Age]]'' is a SliceOfLife {{webcomic}} by David Willis, set at Indiana University and revolving around the freshman class of [[WebcomicTime [[ComicBookTime whatever year this is.]] Though it has multiple characters, its primary focus is on Joyce Brown, a naive fundamentalist Christian with a friendly demeanor and a rigid but upbeat outlook on life, and her unlikely best friend Dorothy Keener, an ambitious atheist and pre-law student. Also along for the ride are Joyce's roommate, a snarky, nigh-misanthropic sophomore named Sarah Clinton, and their next-door neighbors, alcoholic and wannabe-AlphaBitch Jennifer "Billie" Billingsworth and BookDumb, badass-incarnate Sal Walkerton. And then there's local [[SuperHero vigilante]] [[BadassNormal Amazi-Girl]], secretly fellow freshman Amber O'Malley, who uses the alter-ego to compartmentalize her anger issues. All these people have assorted friends and relations, any of whom are capable of taking center-stage at any time--it's probably a good idea to take a look at the [[Characters/DumbingOfAge character sheet]] to get a sense of the sheer scope of the work.
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* AdaptationalMundanity: All of the sci-fi and supernatural elements from the previous Walkyverse comics are stripped away and relegated to ShowWithinAShow status.

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* AdaptationalMundanity: All of the sci-fi and supernatural elements from the previous Walkyverse ''Walkyverse'' comics are stripped away and relegated to ShowWithinAShow status.
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* Crossover: Improbably, with ''Webcomic/DorkTower'''s Mud Bay.

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* Crossover: {{Crossover}}: Improbably, with ''Webcomic/DorkTower'''s Mud Bay.
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%%* ArtisticLicensePhysics: [[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Done intentionally]] by the author during [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/category/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/ To Those Who'd Ground Me]] to avoid BuryYourGays. -- needs context + weblinks are not examples

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%%* * ArtisticLicensePhysics: Willis [[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Done intentionally]] by describes the author during shenanigans]] happening in the [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/category/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/ To Those Who'd Ground Me]] arc - Amazi-Girl latching onto Ross' car with a thrown hook on a rope, riding on the front of a random bystander's car to avoid BuryYourGays. -- needs context + weblinks are catch up with them, and getting caught at the last moment by Sal and Joyce on a motorcycle perpendicular to the truck about to run her over - as physics getting "bruised a bit" in the service of [[PreserveYourGays not exampleshaving Becky's story end on a sour note]].
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* {{Bishonen}}: Walky accidentally manages to pull this off after [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/falls/ he lets his hair grow out]] a bit. He [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/04-hompk/stains-2/ isn't very happy]] about some of the implications, though.
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''[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/home/ Dumbing of Age]]'' is a SliceOfLife {{webcomic}} by David Willis, set at Indiana University and revolving around the freshman class of [[WebcomicTime whatever year this is.]] Though it has multiple characters, its primary focus is on Joyce Brown, a naive fundamentalist Christian with a friendly demeanor and a rigid but upbeat outlook on life, and her unlikely best friend Dorothy Keener, an ambitious atheist and pre-law student. Also along for the ride are Joyce's roommate, a snarky, nigh-misanthropic sophomore named Sarah Clinton, and their next-door neighbors, alcoholic and wannabe-AlphaBitch Jennifer "Billie" Billingsworth and BookDumb, badass-incarnate Sal Walkerton. And then there's local [[SuperHero vigilante]] [[BadassNormal Amazi-Girl]], secretly fellow freshman Amber O'Malley, who uses the alter-ego to compartmentalize her anger issues. All these people have assorted friends and relations, any of whom are capable of taking center-stage at any time--it's probably a good idea to take a look at the [[Characters/DumbingOfAge character sheet]] to get a sense of the sheer scope of the work.

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''[[http://www.''[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/home/ Dumbing of Age]]'' is a SliceOfLife {{webcomic}} by David Willis, set at Indiana University and revolving around the freshman class of [[WebcomicTime whatever year this is.]] Though it has multiple characters, its primary focus is on Joyce Brown, a naive fundamentalist Christian with a friendly demeanor and a rigid but upbeat outlook on life, and her unlikely best friend Dorothy Keener, an ambitious atheist and pre-law student. Also along for the ride are Joyce's roommate, a snarky, nigh-misanthropic sophomore named Sarah Clinton, and their next-door neighbors, alcoholic and wannabe-AlphaBitch Jennifer "Billie" Billingsworth and BookDumb, badass-incarnate Sal Walkerton. And then there's local [[SuperHero vigilante]] [[BadassNormal Amazi-Girl]], secretly fellow freshman Amber O'Malley, who uses the alter-ego to compartmentalize her anger issues. All these people have assorted friends and relations, any of whom are capable of taking center-stage at any time--it's probably a good idea to take a look at the [[Characters/DumbingOfAge character sheet]] to get a sense of the sheer scope of the work.



** While not a villain, Mike's character in the Webcomic/{{Walkyverse}} was to be the biggest asshole in the world. Here, he's still an asshole but most of his quips are less about hurting people for no reason and more about forcing them to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/profane/ acknowledge hypocrisies]], [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/kidding-2/ point out hard truths]] or [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/putyouup/ engage in uncomfortable conversations]].

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** While not a villain, Mike's character in the Webcomic/{{Walkyverse}} was to be the biggest asshole in the world. Here, he's still an asshole but most of his quips are less about hurting people for no reason and more about forcing them to [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/profane/ acknowledge hypocrisies]], [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/kidding-2/ point out hard truths]] or [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/putyouup/ engage in uncomfortable conversations]].



** Ross Macintyre. In ''Joyce & Walky'', while he looked down on the couple dancing and engaging in pre-marital sex, as well as Becky being friends with Joyce, the worst he ever did was voice these opinions. Here he's willing to do whatever he can to get his way, [[spoiler:[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/deceptress/ including bringing a gun to a college campus]]]].

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** Ross Macintyre. In ''Joyce & Walky'', while he looked down on the couple dancing and engaging in pre-marital sex, as well as Becky being friends with Joyce, the worst he ever did was voice these opinions. Here he's willing to do whatever he can to get his way, [[spoiler:[[http://www.[[spoiler:[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/deceptress/ including bringing a gun to a college campus]]]].



** Turns out Walky is the only one who subscribes to this theory. A rather grumpy and hungover Joe bluntly puts him in his place [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/manhood/ here]].

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** Turns out Walky is the only one who subscribes to this theory. A rather grumpy and hungover Joe bluntly puts him in his place [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/manhood/ here]].



** She outright calls herself one in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/alpha-bitch/ this strip]].

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** She outright calls herself one in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/alpha-bitch/ this strip]].



** This gets lampshaded in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/ds/ the strip from almost a year earlier, where he put some in after-the-fact]].

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** This gets lampshaded in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/ds/ the strip from almost a year earlier, where he put some in after-the-fact]].



** Joyce's various [[HoYay accidental innuendos]] (e.g. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/buddies/ "shower buddies"]]) have become kind of a recurring joke. Not to mention her intense jealousy when Walky started [[ClingyJealousGirl spending time with Dorothy]] and her fixation on brushing Sal's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/comics/2012-01-19-wig.png "luxurious chocolate river of hair."]]
** Walky even teases her when he sees her [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/nemesis/ frowning]] as Dorothy kisses him. Walky also [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/conceding/ has moments]] that hint at being bi but it could just be him playing around.
** It turns out that Joyce's ideas about platonic friendship with women come from interacting with [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/cuddlin/ Becky]].
** Danny's interactions with Ethan have been surprisingly flirty and a few readers have pointed out Danny has never been confirmed to be heterosexual. When Amber asked him if he was closeted, since her gaydar was terrible, he confirmed he liked girls but not that he was straight. He's basically confirmed as bisexual in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/thoughts/ this strip.]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/tall/ Also this.]] (alt text)

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** Joyce's various [[HoYay accidental innuendos]] (e.g. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/buddies/ "shower buddies"]]) have become kind of a recurring joke. Not to mention her intense jealousy when Walky started [[ClingyJealousGirl spending time with Dorothy]] and her fixation on brushing Sal's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/comics/2012-01-19-wig.png "luxurious chocolate river of hair."]]
** Walky even teases her when he sees her [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/nemesis/ frowning]] as Dorothy kisses him. Walky also [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/conceding/ has moments]] that hint at being bi but it could just be him playing around.
** It turns out that Joyce's ideas about platonic friendship with women come from interacting with [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/cuddlin/ Becky]].
** Danny's interactions with Ethan have been surprisingly flirty and a few readers have pointed out Danny has never been confirmed to be heterosexual. When Amber asked him if he was closeted, since her gaydar was terrible, he confirmed he liked girls but not that he was straight. He's basically confirmed as bisexual in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/thoughts/ this strip.]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/tall/ Also this.]] (alt text)



* ArentYouGoingToRavishMe: Non sexual variant with Danny, who tries to get a stereotypical jock to attack him [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/insulted/ by saying he's gay]] to draw out Amazi-Girl only for the jock, who is in fact [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold Tony]], to be insulted that Danny would think he'd do such a thing.

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* ArentYouGoingToRavishMe: Non sexual variant with Danny, who tries to get a stereotypical jock to attack him [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/insulted/ by saying he's gay]] to draw out Amazi-Girl only for the jock, who is in fact [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold Tony]], to be insulted that Danny would think he'd do such a thing.



%%* ArtisticLicensePhysics: [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Done intentionally]] by the author during [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/category/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/ To Those Who'd Ground Me]] to avoid BuryYourGays. -- needs context + weblinks are not examples

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%%* ArtisticLicensePhysics: [[http://itswalky.[[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Done intentionally]] by the author during [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/category/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/ To Those Who'd Ground Me]] to avoid BuryYourGays. -- needs context + weblinks are not examples



* AtomicFBomb: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/language/ "Language"]] is this combined with PrecisionFStrike and SkywardScream for Joyce. After spending all that time hiding Becky from her asshole dad [[spoiler:and ultimately failing]], her limits have been more than reached.

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* AtomicFBomb: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/language/ "Language"]] is this combined with PrecisionFStrike and SkywardScream for Joyce. After spending all that time hiding Becky from her asshole dad [[spoiler:and ultimately failing]], her limits have been more than reached.



** Joyce's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/sin/ surprisingly measured stance]] on homosexuality.

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** Joyce's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/sin/ surprisingly measured stance]] on homosexuality.



* BeautifulAllAlong: Walky is a rare male example, as Joyce is genuinely surprised to see how [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/caramel-2/ "sculpted" he is underneath his hoodie.]]

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* BeautifulAllAlong: Walky is a rare male example, as Joyce is genuinely surprised to see how [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/caramel-2/ "sculpted" he is underneath his hoodie.]]



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/to-navigate/ Averted]] much to Walky's and Joe's surprise and Joyce's trauma.
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/traumatizing/ Danny and Ethan]] get through a whole conversation in Ethan's room without noticing that Jacob is sitting right there.
* BelligerentSexualTension: See SlapSlapKiss, but [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/lead-2/ their attempt to throw Mary off the trail]] backfires somewhat.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/to-navigate/ Averted]] much to Walky's and Joe's surprise and Joyce's trauma.
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/traumatizing/ Danny and Ethan]] get through a whole conversation in Ethan's room without noticing that Jacob is sitting right there.
* BelligerentSexualTension: See SlapSlapKiss, but [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/lead-2/ their attempt to throw Mary off the trail]] backfires somewhat.



** Dina pulls out a proper DeathGlare when Joyce dismisses evolution offhandedly. Joyce and Ethan are ''terrified'' by [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness sweet, tiny, cripplingly-shy Dina getting angry.]] She also starts to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/safe-2/ get sick of people]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/hypotheses/ thinking of her as a child.]]

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** Dina pulls out a proper DeathGlare when Joyce dismisses evolution offhandedly. Joyce and Ethan are ''terrified'' by [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness sweet, tiny, cripplingly-shy Dina getting angry.]] She also starts to [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/safe-2/ get sick of people]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/hypotheses/ thinking of her as a child.]]



* BigDamnHeroes: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/bat/ Here]], when [[spoiler:Sarah saves Joyce from {{rape|AsDrama}}]].

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* BigDamnHeroes: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/bat/ Here]], when [[spoiler:Sarah saves Joyce from {{rape|AsDrama}}]].



*** After [[spoiler:Becky's father Ross kidnaps Becky, Joyce gets [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/language/ very, very upset.]] Later, she gets [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/strength-2/ very, very mad.]]]] The next strip lampshades that she is acting out her disappointment at how poorly her upbringing's view of the world actually matches the real world.

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*** After [[spoiler:Becky's father Ross kidnaps Becky, Joyce gets [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/language/ very, very upset.]] Later, she gets [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/strength-2/ very, very mad.]]]] The next strip lampshades that she is acting out her disappointment at how poorly her upbringing's view of the world actually matches the real world.



** Becky seems to be headed this way, after [[spoiler:coming out to Joyce via kiss and being (gently) rebuffed]]; according to the alt text of [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/canceled/ this strip]], even ''Willis'' feels bad for her. Even worse [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/hindsight/ during the spoilered event]], though.

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** Becky seems to be headed this way, after [[spoiler:coming out to Joyce via kiss and being (gently) rebuffed]]; according to the alt text of [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/canceled/ this strip]], even ''Willis'' feels bad for her. Even worse [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/hindsight/ during the spoilered event]], though.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/uphill/ In chapter 2]], Mike puts his books in Walky's bag without him noticing. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/backpack/ Two chapters later]], Walky wonders how his books multiplied.
** Walky teases Billie about hooking up with Sal [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/ after she defensively tells Joyce that she'd "sooner do his sister" than him.]] [[WebcomicTime Days later Billie gets drunk and hits on Sal]] (though this becomes less funny given her [[DudeNotFunny obviously worsening alcoholism]]).
** An inter-continuity joke from ''Webcomic/ItsWalky''. Remember Walky's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/throw/ initial reaction to Dorothy]]? [[http://www.joyceandwalky.com/d/20000809.html It's not the first time he's thought that would work]].
** Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/mandangle/ googled what a "strap-on" was]].
** Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/share-2/ finds one of Sarah's "toys"]].
** ''[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/eagles/ Deeeeeeeeee]][[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/folksy/ eeesperado...]]"
** In the last strip of Book 7, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/fun-3/ Joyce, Dorothy, and Walky]] are watching Dexter and Monkey Master via laptop on top of her bunk. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/early-2/ Come next morning...]]

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/uphill/ In chapter 2]], Mike puts his books in Walky's bag without him noticing. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/backpack/ Two chapters later]], Walky wonders how his books multiplied.
** Walky teases Billie about hooking up with Sal [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/ after she defensively tells Joyce that she'd "sooner do his sister" than him.]] [[WebcomicTime Days later Billie gets drunk and hits on Sal]] (though this becomes less funny given her [[DudeNotFunny obviously worsening alcoholism]]).
** An inter-continuity joke from ''Webcomic/ItsWalky''. Remember Walky's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/throw/ initial reaction to Dorothy]]? [[http://www.[[https://www.joyceandwalky.com/d/20000809.html It's not the first time he's thought that would work]].
** Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/mandangle/ googled what a "strap-on" was]].
** Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/share-2/ finds one of Sarah's "toys"]].
** ''[[http://www.''[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/eagles/ Deeeeeeeeee]][[http://www.Deeeeeeeeee]][[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/folksy/ eeesperado...]]"
** In the last strip of Book 7, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/fun-3/ Joyce, Dorothy, and Walky]] are watching Dexter and Monkey Master via laptop on top of her bunk. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/early-2/ Come next morning...]]



* ClingyJealousGirl: Joyce started [[HoYay having overtones of this]] when Dorothy began dating Walky, something that has not gone [[ShipTease unnoticed by the fans]]. Or [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/halfway/ by Walky]].

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* ClingyJealousGirl: Joyce started [[HoYay having overtones of this]] when Dorothy began dating Walky, something that has not gone [[ShipTease unnoticed by the fans]]. Or [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/halfway/ by Walky]].



* ClosetGeek: For all her hatred of [[CatchPhrase NERDS]] Billie uses a lot of phrases like [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/size/ "life-force"]] in casual conversation...

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* ClosetGeek: For all her hatred of [[CatchPhrase NERDS]] Billie uses a lot of phrases like [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/size/ "life-force"]] in casual conversation...



* CollectiveGroan: Joyce inspires one from her ''entire floor'' in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/ruthandbillie/ this strip.]]

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* CollectiveGroan: Joyce inspires one from her ''entire floor'' in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/ruthandbillie/ this strip.]]



** Ruth utterly ''owns'' Billie [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pun/ here]], tossing her over her head and into a chair. And remember, this is a girl who gave ''Sal'' trouble in ''IW!'', so Ruth must have some serious fighting chops.

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** Ruth utterly ''owns'' Billie [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pun/ here]], tossing her over her head and into a chair. And remember, this is a girl who gave ''Sal'' trouble in ''IW!'', so Ruth must have some serious fighting chops.



* CutenessProximity: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/04-walking-with-dina/cuteness/ Becky's reaction to Dina's Triceratops hoodie.]]

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* CutenessProximity: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/04-walking-with-dina/cuteness/ Becky's reaction to Dina's Triceratops hoodie.]]



** Amber's may be the worst, having an emotionally abusive father who beat her mother. Her parents divorced and she was left alone a lot because her mother was busy working. And at thirteen, she could only watch while Sal took Ethan hostage and held a knife to his throat. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/freezeup/ Negative effects]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ have]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/under/ been shown]].

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** Amber's may be the worst, having an emotionally abusive father who beat her mother. Her parents divorced and she was left alone a lot because her mother was busy working. And at thirteen, she could only watch while Sal took Ethan hostage and held a knife to his throat. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/freezeup/ Negative effects]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ have]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/under/ been shown]].



* DeathSeeker: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] by Ruth and Amber [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/assembling/ here.]] Ruth doesn't think Amber is suicidal, but might be wandering into IAmAMonster territory.

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* DeathSeeker: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] by Ruth and Amber [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/assembling/ here.]] Ruth doesn't think Amber is suicidal, but might be wandering into IAmAMonster territory.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pizza/ Here]].
** [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/jumpcut/ here.]]
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/horizons/ And again.]]
** Billie [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/02-this-is-the-way-that-we-love/sitch/ claims that she has great intuition]], followed by a series of flashbacks to moments when her intuition was completely wrong... including the moment when she said she had great intuition, just a few seconds ago.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pizza/ Here]].
** [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/jumpcut/ here.]]
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/04-just-hangin-out-with-my-family/horizons/ And again.]]
** Billie [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/02-this-is-the-way-that-we-love/sitch/ claims that she has great intuition]], followed by a series of flashbacks to moments when her intuition was completely wrong... including the moment when she said she had great intuition, just a few seconds ago.



* DistractedByTheSexy: Poor Daisy is [[YouNeedToGetLaid so pent-up]] that [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/chestwindow/ she distracts]] ''herself'' with the thought of a superheroine with a CleavageWindow.

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* DistractedByTheSexy: Poor Daisy is [[YouNeedToGetLaid so pent-up]] that [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/chestwindow/ she distracts]] ''herself'' with the thought of a superheroine with a CleavageWindow.



* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Played straight, and then subverted -- Joyce hires resident {{Jerkass}} Mike to ''punch Joe in the face'' whenever he steps out of line, then joins in at the end of the night after Joe was distracted by the waitress wearing a {{Stripperiffic}} outfit. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/pray/ The next day]], he points out the {{Hypocrisy}} of a Christian paying someone to commit violence ''and'' joining in on said violence. Joyce is visibly shaken.

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* DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Played straight, and then subverted -- Joyce hires resident {{Jerkass}} Mike to ''punch Joe in the face'' whenever he steps out of line, then joins in at the end of the night after Joe was distracted by the waitress wearing a {{Stripperiffic}} outfit. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/pray/ The next day]], he points out the {{Hypocrisy}} of a Christian paying someone to commit violence ''and'' joining in on said violence. Joyce is visibly shaken.



* DroppingTheBombshell: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/shortsighted/ During a phone conversation]] with [[spoiler:Jocelyne]], Joyce all of a sudden asks her point blank if their mother is a good person. [[spoiler:Jocelyne]] is at a loss for words, stays silent for two whole panels in which she is visibly distraught. She answers the best she can, trying to protect Joyce's feelings (and possibly struggling with her own feelings on the matter) but not shying away from the question, saying that their mom is short-sighted and/or badly informed, but that she believes that if it really came down to it she would do the right thing... she thinks. A few strips later, it is revealed that [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/bond/ her mom and other parents are trying to pay for Ross' bond]] (the very same man who held her daughter at gunpoint), and that [[FromBadToWorse Blaine is there too, ready to enact his vengeance against his daughter and obviously there to manipulate Carol Brown and the others into helping him]].

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* DroppingTheBombshell: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/shortsighted/ During a phone conversation]] with [[spoiler:Jocelyne]], Joyce all of a sudden asks her point blank if their mother is a good person. [[spoiler:Jocelyne]] is at a loss for words, stays silent for two whole panels in which she is visibly distraught. She answers the best she can, trying to protect Joyce's feelings (and possibly struggling with her own feelings on the matter) but not shying away from the question, saying that their mom is short-sighted and/or badly informed, but that she believes that if it really came down to it she would do the right thing... she thinks. A few strips later, it is revealed that [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/bond/ her mom and other parents are trying to pay for Ross' bond]] (the very same man who held her daughter at gunpoint), and that [[FromBadToWorse Blaine is there too, ready to enact his vengeance against his daughter and obviously there to manipulate Carol Brown and the others into helping him]].



** Hilariously done with [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/planned/ Roz]].
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/legitimate/ Daisy got one too.]]

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** Hilariously done with [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/planned/ Roz]].
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/legitimate/ Daisy got one too.]]



* ExactlyWhatIAimedAt: An unusual emotional example: Dorothy assumes that Mike was trying to upset her. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/target/ He wasn't.]]

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* ExactlyWhatIAimedAt: An unusual emotional example: Dorothy assumes that Mike was trying to upset her. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/target/ He wasn't.]]



** Early on, Joyce says she [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/sisters/ wished she had a sister]]. A few years down the line, [[spoiler:we learn her "brother" Joshua is actually a closeted trans woman.]]
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-01/06-yesterday-was-thursday/margaret Amber's reaction to seeing Sal]] foreshadows [[spoiler:the fact that Amber was there the day of Sal's attempted robbery and is responsible for Sal's hand scar]].
** Sal's warning to Amber/Amazi-Girl the first time they meet [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/handle-3/ is dramatically confirmed]] as one later on:

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** Early on, Joyce says she [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/sisters/ wished she had a sister]]. A few years down the line, [[spoiler:we learn her "brother" Joshua is actually a closeted trans woman.]]
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-01/06-yesterday-was-thursday/margaret Amber's reaction to seeing Sal]] foreshadows [[spoiler:the fact that Amber was there the day of Sal's attempted robbery and is responsible for Sal's hand scar]].
** Sal's warning to Amber/Amazi-Girl the first time they meet [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/handle-3/ is dramatically confirmed]] as one later on:



* FourthWallMailSlot: On Dorothy's [[CharacterBlog Character Twitter]], she [[http://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757326499819520 apparently]] [[https://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757446490484736 responds]] [[https://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757509325336577 to]] comments made on the discussion pages.

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* FourthWallMailSlot: On Dorothy's [[CharacterBlog Character Twitter]], she [[http://twitter.[[https://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757326499819520 apparently]] [[https://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757446490484736 responds]] [[https://twitter.com/DorothyKeener/status/276757509325336577 to]] comments made on the discussion pages.



** Both Becky and Joyce are in the process of breaking away from Christian fundamentalist upbringings to more broad-minded world-views, making friends with non-fundamentalist fellow college students in the process, which leads to serious friction with their still-fundamentalist families. Whereas Joyce is on a long, hard path of change, so that her relationship with her family is merely difficult and complicated, Becky breaks away radically, coming out as lesbian and abandoning creationism — to which her father responds by bringing a ''shotgun'' to the college. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/startreks/ Becky ends up more or less invoking the trope.]] Interestingly, they have ultimately reacted in the opposite way you would expect them to; the slow-and-steady Joyce has fully broken with Christianity and become either agnostic or an outright atheist, while the radical lesbian Becky still believes and identifies as a Christian.

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** Both Becky and Joyce are in the process of breaking away from Christian fundamentalist upbringings to more broad-minded world-views, making friends with non-fundamentalist fellow college students in the process, which leads to serious friction with their still-fundamentalist families. Whereas Joyce is on a long, hard path of change, so that her relationship with her family is merely difficult and complicated, Becky breaks away radically, coming out as lesbian and abandoning creationism — to which her father responds by bringing a ''shotgun'' to the college. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/startreks/ Becky ends up more or less invoking the trope.]] Interestingly, they have ultimately reacted in the opposite way you would expect them to; the slow-and-steady Joyce has fully broken with Christianity and become either agnostic or an outright atheist, while the radical lesbian Becky still believes and identifies as a Christian.



** Amazi-Girl can be seen beating up people during a college party [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/mark/ in this strip.]][[note]]This counts also as a BrickJoke, too – they are the guys who beat up Danny in an earlier strip.[[/note]]
** The framed review on the wall of Galasso's Pizza (and Subs) headlined [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/olives/ "Mother Bear's crushed under Galasso's iron heel".]] (Mother Bear's Pizza is a popular IU student hangout in RealLife.)

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** Amazi-Girl can be seen beating up people during a college party [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/mark/ in this strip.]][[note]]This counts also as a BrickJoke, too – they are the guys who beat up Danny in an earlier strip.[[/note]]
** The framed review on the wall of Galasso's Pizza (and Subs) headlined [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/olives/ "Mother Bear's crushed under Galasso's iron heel".]] (Mother Bear's Pizza is a popular IU student hangout in RealLife.)



* {{Gaydar}}: Amber's is, by her own admission, way off. Sarah's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/chromosome/ is a lot more accurate.]]

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* {{Gaydar}}: Amber's is, by her own admission, way off. Sarah's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/chromosome/ is a lot more accurate.]]



* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Billie's reaction when she realizes that, going by all the people she knows at college so far, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/stall/ Joyce is her best friend.]] And then they get along pretty well from there.

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* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Billie's reaction when she realizes that, going by all the people she knows at college so far, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/stall/ Joyce is her best friend.]] And then they get along pretty well from there.



* GoshDangItToHeck: Joyce (obviously), and oddly enough, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/help Sal]] rarely directly curse, apparently even when [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak provoked.]]

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* GoshDangItToHeck: Joyce (obviously), and oddly enough, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/help Sal]] rarely directly curse, apparently even when [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak provoked.]]



** Throughout "When God Closes a Door" we see Joyce texting someone frequently about her family. The final strip reveals she's been talking [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/bloc-2/ to Joe all along.]]

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** Throughout "When God Closes a Door" we see Joyce texting someone frequently about her family. The final strip reveals she's been talking [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/bloc-2/ to Joe all along.]]



* HiddenEyes: Becky gets these when she tells Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/canceled/ she has nowhere else to go, having been pulled out of Anderson.]]

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* HiddenEyes: Becky gets these when she tells Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/canceled/ she has nowhere else to go, having been pulled out of Anderson.]]



* HollywoodAtheist: Both played straight and averted. Walky is [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/caramel-2/ quite snarky and]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/skywizard/ dismissive]] about Joyce's 'invisible sky wizard' in contrast to his original Walkyverse self. However Dorothy is non confrontational in her atheism, to the point of making friends with [[TheFundamentalist Joyce]], and is somewhat embarrassed by her boyfriend's behavior.

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* HollywoodAtheist: Both played straight and averted. Walky is [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/caramel-2/ quite snarky and]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/skywizard/ dismissive]] about Joyce's 'invisible sky wizard' in contrast to his original Walkyverse self. However Dorothy is non confrontational in her atheism, to the point of making friends with [[TheFundamentalist Joyce]], and is somewhat embarrassed by her boyfriend's behavior.



* ImpaledPalm: [[spoiler:Amber]] did this to [[spoiler:Sal]] in a fit of rage [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ years before the story began.]]

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* ImpaledPalm: [[spoiler:Amber]] did this to [[spoiler:Sal]] in a fit of rage [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ years before the story began.]]



* InnocentInaccurate: Joyce keeps being told that [[StraightGay Ethan]] would [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/pagans/ enjoy a strap-on.]]

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* InnocentInaccurate: Joyce keeps being told that [[StraightGay Ethan]] would [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/pagans/ enjoy a strap-on.]]



** Sarah [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/holes-2/ overhears such a conversation]] concerning Sal possibly being Amazi-Girl.
** Taken to new levels [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/noises/ here, after Sarah]] mentions that she has toys.

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** Sarah [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/holes-2/ overhears such a conversation]] concerning Sal possibly being Amazi-Girl.
** Taken to new levels [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/noises/ here, after Sarah]] mentions that she has toys.



** Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/other-guys/ really is a veritable fountain for these]].

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** Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/other-guys/ really is a veritable fountain for these]].



** One [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/earliest/ three and a half years in the making]] (though it is a bit of a dated term):

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** One [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/earliest/ three and a half years in the making]] (though it is a bit of a dated term):



* InsaneTrollLogic: Coupled with ItsQuietTooQuiet, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/coward/ Ruth harassed Billie despite]] the latter not having done anything bad that week... so ''obviously'' that means she's up to something.

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* InsaneTrollLogic: Coupled with ItsQuietTooQuiet, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/04-time-keeps-on-slippin/coward/ Ruth harassed Billie despite]] the latter not having done anything bad that week... so ''obviously'' that means she's up to something.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/justice/ Sarah takes being called "pissy" as a compliment.]]
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/protection/ Ruth can't insult innocent little Joyce, can she?]]

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/justice/ Sarah takes being called "pissy" as a compliment.]]
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/protection/ Ruth can't insult innocent little Joyce, can she?]]



** To say Roz was incredibly vitriolic towards Joyce in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/outrage/#comment this strip]] would be an understatement (and uncalled for, considering that despite being a fundamentalist until now, Joyce is overall a nice person), and Leslie was right to order her out, but she made a few valid points while doing so.
** Also, in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/theplural/ this strip,]] Joe, despite usually being a Jerkass, gives a surprisingly thoughtful defense for drinking. He reasons that if he's old enough to die for his country, he should be old enough to 'get a little sloshed.' Considering this is the argument that got the voting age moved to 18, he has a very valid point.

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** To say Roz was incredibly vitriolic towards Joyce in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/outrage/#comment this strip]] would be an understatement (and uncalled for, considering that despite being a fundamentalist until now, Joyce is overall a nice person), and Leslie was right to order her out, but she made a few valid points while doing so.
** Also, in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/theplural/ this strip,]] Joe, despite usually being a Jerkass, gives a surprisingly thoughtful defense for drinking. He reasons that if he's old enough to die for his country, he should be old enough to 'get a little sloshed.' Considering this is the argument that got the voting age moved to 18, he has a very valid point.



* LastHetRomance: In this universe, Amber and Ethan dated in high school before he [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/awkward/ realised he was gay during prom night.]]

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* LastHetRomance: In this universe, Amber and Ethan dated in high school before he [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/awkward/ realised he was gay during prom night.]]



* LectureAsExposition: Leslie's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/faithbased/ Gender Studies lecture]] gives background on the current Becky storyline. The AltText [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this.

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* LectureAsExposition: Leslie's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/faithbased/ Gender Studies lecture]] gives background on the current Becky storyline. The AltText [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] this.



* LyricalDissonance: One of Joyce's favourite songs from ''Hymmel the Hymnal''; it sounds cute and cheery but [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/etchasketch/ has a pretty creepy message]].

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* LyricalDissonance: One of Joyce's favourite songs from ''Hymmel the Hymnal''; it sounds cute and cheery but [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/etchasketch/ has a pretty creepy message]].



* MagnificentBastard: [[invoked]] According to Sarah, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/magnificent/ Joyce is one]].

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* MagnificentBastard: [[invoked]] According to Sarah, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/magnificent/ Joyce is one]].



** Walky, to the extent that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Mike]] is trying to essentially force him to grow up and take a look at himself through [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/unhappy/ creative methods.]]

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** Walky, to the extent that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Mike]] is trying to essentially force him to grow up and take a look at himself through [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/unhappy/ creative methods.]]



* MeaningfulEcho: PlayedForDrama as [[spoiler:Joyce's mother [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ uses the exact same line with Joyce]] that [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/troopers/ Becky's father did]] while emphasizing that he's not the one at fault]].
* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: Dorothy finds Walky [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/sharedmoment/ talking to Joe]] about having had sex with her the night before, and how he will later be able to say he slept with the future President. Instead of being upset about him talking about their sex life, she is happy that he actually ''believes'' that she will be President. Her former boyfriend Danny, on the other hand, did not.

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* MeaningfulEcho: PlayedForDrama as [[spoiler:Joyce's mother [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ uses the exact same line with Joyce]] that [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/troopers/ Becky's father did]] while emphasizing that he's not the one at fault]].
* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: Dorothy finds Walky [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/sharedmoment/ talking to Joe]] about having had sex with her the night before, and how he will later be able to say he slept with the future President. Instead of being upset about him talking about their sex life, she is happy that he actually ''believes'' that she will be President. Her former boyfriend Danny, on the other hand, did not.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/tummy/ This strip]], which shifts from 'ha ha, Joyce is innocent' to [[DateRapeAverted Ryan]].
** A blazing [[spoiler:Ruth - Billie]] row that ends with both of them in tears is immediately followed by [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/weeenus/ Walky being himself]]. And from there we shift to an exhausted Amber coming home from [[spoiler:a violent confrontation with Blaine.]]

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/tummy/ This strip]], which shifts from 'ha ha, Joyce is innocent' to [[DateRapeAverted Ryan]].
** A blazing [[spoiler:Ruth - Billie]] row that ends with both of them in tears is immediately followed by [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/weeenus/ Walky being himself]]. And from there we shift to an exhausted Amber coming home from [[spoiler:a violent confrontation with Blaine.]]



* MyEyesAreUpHere: Inverted [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/bitty/ regarding the top of Dina's head]], due to it being something of a ForbiddenFruit.

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* MyEyesAreUpHere: Inverted [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/bitty/ regarding the top of Dina's head]], due to it being something of a ForbiddenFruit.



** Every now and again. For example, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/why/ this strip]] shows Leslie joking that every female in Gender Studies is a lesbian. Readers who've read ''Shortpacked!'' know that she ''is'' a lesbian. She also displays a noticeable crush on Congresswoman Robin [=DeSanto=], the same dynamic she had with Robin in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}''.

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** Every now and again. For example, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/why/ this strip]] shows Leslie joking that every female in Gender Studies is a lesbian. Readers who've read ''Shortpacked!'' know that she ''is'' a lesbian. She also displays a noticeable crush on Congresswoman Robin [=DeSanto=], the same dynamic she had with Robin in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}''.



** Mike's notes [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/notes/ here]].
** Walky tells Joyce that [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/fast/ they can't be friends.]] In the Walkyverse, they're an OfficialCouple.

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** Mike's notes [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/notes/ here]].
** Walky tells Joyce that [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/fast/ they can't be friends.]] In the Walkyverse, they're an OfficialCouple.



** Dorothy's favorite episode of the "Dexter and Monkey Master" cartoon is the one where Head Alien crashes a wedding, a reference to the final (uncompleted) storyline of ''Joyce and Walky!'' Willis lampshades this in a [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/32651588328/pivitor-this-is-me-this-is-me-so-hard-it-isnt Tumblr post]].
** According to Mike's [[CharacterBlog Twitter]], his turn-ons are [[http://www.joyceandwalky.com/d/20020511.html hats]], [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-2-pulls-the-drama-tag/01-addicted/iloveyoumaggie/ strong tempers]], and [[RefugeInAudacity fuckable moms on the brink of death]], referencing Mike's romantic relationships in ''It's Walky!'' and ''Shortpacked!''
** "[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/fifteen-2/ No, Joe isn't climbing out the windows to get into their rooms.]] [[http://www.bringbackroomies.com/comic/and-now/ That'd be ridiculous.]]"

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** Dorothy's favorite episode of the "Dexter and Monkey Master" cartoon is the one where Head Alien crashes a wedding, a reference to the final (uncompleted) storyline of ''Joyce and Walky!'' Willis lampshades this in a [[http://itswalky.[[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/32651588328/pivitor-this-is-me-this-is-me-so-hard-it-isnt Tumblr post]].
** According to Mike's [[CharacterBlog Twitter]], his turn-ons are [[http://www.[[https://www.joyceandwalky.com/d/20020511.html hats]], [[http://www.[[https://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-2-pulls-the-drama-tag/01-addicted/iloveyoumaggie/ strong tempers]], and [[RefugeInAudacity fuckable moms on the brink of death]], referencing Mike's romantic relationships in ''It's Walky!'' and ''Shortpacked!''
** "[[http://www."[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/fifteen-2/ No, Joe isn't climbing out the windows to get into their rooms.]] [[http://www.[[https://www.bringbackroomies.com/comic/and-now/ That'd be ridiculous.]]"



** So Sal and Jason [[http://www.itswalky.com/comic/for-the-kid/ walk into]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/quite/ a bar]]...
** Amber and Mike's ''Shortpacked!'' relationship is referenced in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/interrogation/ this strip]], with a LampshadeHanging in the AltText.
** The irony in Mary's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/joke/ snide comment]] was lampshaded in the AltText.

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** So Sal and Jason [[http://www.[[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/for-the-kid/ walk into]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/quite/ a bar]]...
** Amber and Mike's ''Shortpacked!'' relationship is referenced in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/interrogation/ this strip]], with a LampshadeHanging in the AltText.
** The irony in Mary's [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/joke/ snide comment]] was lampshaded in the AltText.



** When Joyce suggests [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/replaced/ borrowing the car without asking her parents]], Becky thinks she's been replaced by "[[http://www.itswalky.com/comic/woah-there/ some sorta Anti-Joyce]]".
** Also lampshaded in the AltText: Walky saying that "[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/super-human/ bein' superhuman'd be a bummer]]".

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** When Joyce suggests [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/replaced/ borrowing the car without asking her parents]], Becky thinks she's been replaced by "[[http://www."[[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/woah-there/ some sorta Anti-Joyce]]".
** Also lampshaded in the AltText: Walky saying that "[[http://www."[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/super-human/ bein' superhuman'd be a bummer]]".



** Lucy has [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/fog/ a poster]] of the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' version of Starfire. Her introduction in ''Shortpacked'' was as a representative of the demographic who loved the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon, bought ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' because they were told "Comicbook/TheNew52 is a great jumping on point and it's got Starfire in it" and were ... not impressed.

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** Lucy has [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/fog/ a poster]] of the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' version of Starfire. Her introduction in ''Shortpacked'' was as a representative of the demographic who loved the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon, bought ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' because they were told "Comicbook/TheNew52 is a great jumping on point and it's got Starfire in it" and were ... not impressed.



*** Her [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/03-see-you-in-the-funny-page/betty/ first strip]] is directly based on the [[http://www.itswalky.com/comic/and-now/ first strip]] of ''Roomies,'' right down to the first word balloon extending past the panel's right edge. The strip is [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/toog/ later named]] as ''Roommates!!!''
*** A Patreon bonus strip is based on [[http://www.itswalky.com/comic/i-hate-math/ Walkyverse Joyce's first appearance]], complete with the Danny character wearing a shirt with a psi on it (but also Dumbingverse Danny's hat). In keeping with their Dumbingverse non-relationship, the main difference is that Julia doesn't react to him in any way, and later tells Doris she vaguely remembers seeing a hat.

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*** Her [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/03-see-you-in-the-funny-page/betty/ first strip]] is directly based on the [[http://www.[[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/and-now/ first strip]] of ''Roomies,'' right down to the first word balloon extending past the panel's right edge. The strip is [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2022/comic/book-12/04-dont-stop-billie-ving/toog/ later named]] as ''Roommates!!!''
*** A Patreon bonus strip is based on [[http://www.[[https://www.itswalky.com/comic/i-hate-math/ Walkyverse Joyce's first appearance]], complete with the Danny character wearing a shirt with a psi on it (but also Dumbingverse Danny's hat). In keeping with their Dumbingverse non-relationship, the main difference is that Julia doesn't react to him in any way, and later tells Doris she vaguely remembers seeing a hat.



* NightmareFace: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/church/ Joyce]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/catholic/ is]] prone to these.

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* NightmareFace: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/church/ Joyce]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/catholic/ is]] prone to these.



* OddballDoppelganger: Dorothy and Joyce in a lot of ways. Despite the obvious differences in religion, upbringing and motivations they are surprisingly similar. They have the same child like interests (e.g. cartoons). They both have a tendency towards somewhat immature outbursts, in class in Dorothy's case and on a date in Joyce's. They both can be overly controlling when with boys. They both have expressed an interest in dating Walky in the original continuity. They both tend to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/sierra/ dress modestly]] and have relatively similar hairstyles (bangs). [[OddFriendship Not that strange, then, that the two would bond quickly.]]

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* OddballDoppelganger: Dorothy and Joyce in a lot of ways. Despite the obvious differences in religion, upbringing and motivations they are surprisingly similar. They have the same child like interests (e.g. cartoons). They both have a tendency towards somewhat immature outbursts, in class in Dorothy's case and on a date in Joyce's. They both can be overly controlling when with boys. They both have expressed an interest in dating Walky in the original continuity. They both tend to [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/sierra/ dress modestly]] and have relatively similar hairstyles (bangs). [[OddFriendship Not that strange, then, that the two would bond quickly.]]



* ParentingTheHusband: Deconstructed. Although unmarried, Walky [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/moms/ invokes this trope when breaking up with Dorothy]]. Despite getting back together this underlying issue in the relationship has not actually been resolved. Although it's clear that despite resenting how patronizing her behavior was, Walky [[ManChild doesn't really want to "grow up"]] and likes how dominant Dorothy is in the relationship. Likewise, while she has been embarrassed by him occasionally Dorothy definitely [[WeaknessTurnsHerOn enjoys Walky's juvenile and submissive personality on some level.]]

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* ParentingTheHusband: Deconstructed. Although unmarried, Walky [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/moms/ invokes this trope when breaking up with Dorothy]]. Despite getting back together this underlying issue in the relationship has not actually been resolved. Although it's clear that despite resenting how patronizing her behavior was, Walky [[ManChild doesn't really want to "grow up"]] and likes how dominant Dorothy is in the relationship. Likewise, while she has been embarrassed by him occasionally Dorothy definitely [[WeaknessTurnsHerOn enjoys Walky's juvenile and submissive personality on some level.]]



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/slurp/ Sarah's reaction]] when [[TheFundamentalist Joyce]] and Dina get in an argument over evolution (viral, in this case).
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/godpertunity/ Bilie's reaction]] when Joyce and Walky start scrapping like kids.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/slurp/ Sarah's reaction]] when [[TheFundamentalist Joyce]] and Dina get in an argument over evolution (viral, in this case).
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/04-the-whiteboard-dong-bandit/godpertunity/ Bilie's reaction]] when Joyce and Walky start scrapping like kids.



* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Though her group's "villain" status is arguable, Char definitely gets a JerkAss moment [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/bullies/ here]].

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Though her group's "villain" status is arguable, Char definitely gets a JerkAss moment [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/bullies/ here]].



* ThePollyanna: Joyce. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/rollcall/ It's even lampshaded in this comic.]]
* PrefersGoingBarefoot: Sierra, who has apparently been barefoot since sixth grade (that's her best guess at least). [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It took a while for anyone to notice]], including the reader, since her feet were not shown until the characters noticed her shoelessness.
* PreserveYourGays: [[spoiler:[[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Intentionally subverts]] the BuryYourGays trope, by WordOfGod. Becky is placed in harm's way by her father, has multiple opportunities to die in the ensuing scuffle, and yet doesn't die and is in fact completely uninjured, ending the storyline alive, free, and seemingly on her way to making her own life.]]

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* ThePollyanna: Joyce. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/rollcall/ It's even lampshaded in this comic.]]
* PrefersGoingBarefoot: Sierra, who Sierra has apparently been barefoot since sixth grade (that's her best guess at least). [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It took a while for anyone to notice]], including the reader, since her feet were not shown until the characters noticed her shoelessness.
* PreserveYourGays: [[spoiler:[[http://itswalky.[[spoiler:[[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133911326532/the-storylines-over-and-now-that-it-is-i-wanted Intentionally subverts]] the BuryYourGays trope, by WordOfGod. Becky is placed in harm's way by her father, has multiple opportunities to die in the ensuing scuffle, and yet doesn't die and is in fact completely uninjured, ending the storyline alive, free, and seemingly on her way to making her own life.]]



* PunctuatedForEmphasis: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/chestwindow/ Did. She have. A CHEST WINDOW?]]

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* PunctuatedForEmphasis: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/chestwindow/ Did. She have. A CHEST WINDOW?]]



** Just as Ruth starts [[RedemptionQuest trying to redeem herself]] for her past bullying, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/redemption/ previously minor character Rachel wades into her]] with a brutal dismissal of the entire concept of redemption. It's harsh, misguided, and potentially dangerous to several bystanders -- but it's also a formidable corrective to the idea of an EasilyForgiven villain.

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** Just as Ruth starts [[RedemptionQuest trying to redeem herself]] for her past bullying, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/redemption/ previously minor character Rachel wades into her]] with a brutal dismissal of the entire concept of redemption. It's harsh, misguided, and potentially dangerous to several bystanders -- but it's also a formidable corrective to the idea of an EasilyForgiven villain.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/serious/ Joyce]], of all people. She does it again [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/damn/ here]], and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/angry-3/ here]].
** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/something/ Billie gets in on this as well when asked if there's something between her and Walky.]]
** Amber gets this on two separate occasions in the same strip when [[spoiler:[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ stabbing Sal for taking Ethan hostage and beating the tar out of her abusive father]]]].
* ReplacementGoldfish: Danny, after being dumped by Dorothy, starts hitting on Amber. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/dude/ Played for laughs.]]

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/serious/ Joyce]], of all people. She does it again [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/damn/ here]], and [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/angry-3/ here]].
** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/something/ Billie gets in on this as well when asked if there's something between her and Walky.]]
** Amber gets this on two separate occasions in the same strip when [[spoiler:[[http://www.[[spoiler:[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/down/ stabbing Sal for taking Ethan hostage and beating the tar out of her abusive father]]]].
* ReplacementGoldfish: Danny, after being dumped by Dorothy, starts hitting on Amber. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/dude/ Played for laughs.]]



* RubeGoldbergDevice: [[spoiler:Carla]] constructs an intricate contraption [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/rube/ here]] for some well deserved revenge on [[spoiler:Mary]].

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* RubeGoldbergDevice: [[spoiler:Carla]] constructs an intricate contraption [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/rube/ here]] for some well deserved revenge on [[spoiler:Mary]].



** Early on in the strip Walky develops a crush on Dorothy. Whenever she's present, he got a wide-eyed, lip-biting expression frozen on his face ([[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/onenote-2/ best seen here]], since he's wearing it in his only panel). The two are currently dating.
** Amber has [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/margaret/ a weird look on her face]] every time [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/badfriends/ she sees another girl with glasses.]] Probably referencing [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/glasses/ how she and Danny met.]]

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** Early on in the strip Walky develops a crush on Dorothy. Whenever she's present, he got a wide-eyed, lip-biting expression frozen on his face ([[http://www.([[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/onenote-2/ best seen here]], since he's wearing it in his only panel). The two are currently dating.
** Amber has [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/margaret/ a weird look on her face]] every time [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/badfriends/ she sees another girl with glasses.]] Probably referencing [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/glasses/ how she and Danny met.]]



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/casualbang/ Danny, too.]] Joe calls him out on it.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/casualbang/ Danny, too.]] Joe calls him out on it.



* SexSignalsDeath: Conversed [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/intent/ in this strip]], where Walky facetiously compares he and Dorothy being late for class because they slept-in after having sex to when people die after having sex in horror movies.

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* SexSignalsDeath: Conversed [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/02-i-was-a-teenage-churchmouse/intent/ in this strip]], where Walky facetiously compares he and Dorothy being late for class because they slept-in after having sex to when people die after having sex in horror movies.



** Sarah is outwardly Joyce's polar opposite given her self-proclaimed misanthropy and sour outlook. Yet she shares a strong connection to Joyce (her "little sis") and arguably is motivated [[IJustWantToBeLoved by many of the same things she is.]] She is even shown entering her dorm room excitedly much the same way that Joyce did, and also has faced something traumatic in her first semester. Further adding to this dynamic is Joyce's unexpected [[HiddenDepths ability to deliver clever comebacks and quips]] [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/bonecity/ in later comics.]]

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** Sarah is outwardly Joyce's polar opposite given her self-proclaimed misanthropy and sour outlook. Yet she shares a strong connection to Joyce (her "little sis") and arguably is motivated [[IJustWantToBeLoved by many of the same things she is.]] She is even shown entering her dorm room excitedly much the same way that Joyce did, and also has faced something traumatic in her first semester. Further adding to this dynamic is Joyce's unexpected [[HiddenDepths ability to deliver clever comebacks and quips]] [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/bonecity/ in later comics.]]



** Dorothy and Walky. Walky can be overly complacent, sloppy and childish at times. Dorothy can be overly ambitious, perfectionist and preoccupied with what others think of her (which is in itself [[http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm somewhat childish]]). Both bond over cartoons, both are surprised by how similarly gifted they are, and both struggle to make the right compromises in their relationship.

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** Dorothy and Walky. Walky can be overly complacent, sloppy and childish at times. Dorothy can be overly ambitious, perfectionist and preoccupied with what others think of her (which is in itself [[http://bible.[[https://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13-11.htm somewhat childish]]). Both bond over cartoons, both are surprised by how similarly gifted they are, and both struggle to make the right compromises in their relationship.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/ Joyce ships Walky/Billie.]] And in the same one, Walky seems to ship Billie/Sal.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/ Joyce ships Walky/Billie.]] And in the same one, Walky seems to ship Billie/Sal.



** Leslie and Robin [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/messed/ discuss]] that they should watch ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' together.
** Sal's outfits in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/schoolgirl/ this strip]] look an awful lot like the school uniforms in ''{{Webcomic/Avalon}}'', which ''It's Walky!'' did a little crossover with during the "Anomalie" storyline.
** Sort of shout out [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/vouch/ by Walky]] - Willis originated the joke about [[Webcomic/QuestionableContent Jeph Jacques]] having 'Butts Disease', which concludes with the ability to only draw butts.
** When Mike and Ethan [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/drag/ drag Amber out of her dorm room]], she shouts the following.

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** Leslie and Robin [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/messed/ discuss]] that they should watch ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' together.
** Sal's outfits in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/schoolgirl/ this strip]] look an awful lot like the school uniforms in ''{{Webcomic/Avalon}}'', which ''It's Walky!'' did a little crossover with during the "Anomalie" storyline.
** Sort of shout out [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/vouch/ by Walky]] - Willis originated the joke about [[Webcomic/QuestionableContent Jeph Jacques]] having 'Butts Disease', which concludes with the ability to only draw butts.
** When Mike and Ethan [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/drag/ drag Amber out of her dorm room]], she shouts the following.



** When Joyce starts [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/manic-2/ acting twitchy]], the AltText says she's "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/CommunityS1E19BeginnerPottery Goldbluming]]".
** The AltText [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/neutral/ for this strip]] lampshades Amber's [[SplitPersonality swap to Amazi-Girl]] with "[[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries wrong Harvey]]".
** The storyline that starts with [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/secretagent/ this strip]] is titled [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory2 "When Somebody Loved Me"]]. If that wasn't enough, the storyline ends with Becky and Joyce lying in Joyce's bed after [[spoiler:[[ComingOutStory the events of the past few strips]], and Becky says she's glad that Joyce has changed]]. The hovertext even completes the lyric!

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** When Joyce starts [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/manic-2/ acting twitchy]], the AltText says she's "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/CommunityS1E19BeginnerPottery Goldbluming]]".
** The AltText [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/neutral/ for this strip]] lampshades Amber's [[SplitPersonality swap to Amazi-Girl]] with "[[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries wrong Harvey]]".
** The storyline that starts with [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/secretagent/ this strip]] is titled [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory2 "When Somebody Loved Me"]]. If that wasn't enough, the storyline ends with Becky and Joyce lying in Joyce's bed after [[spoiler:[[ComingOutStory the events of the past few strips]], and Becky says she's glad that Joyce has changed]]. The hovertext even completes the lyric!



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/wordplay/ Indiana University's library]] bears the name of [[Series/ParksAndRecreation a certain public official.]] (This was a RetCon, as the original version of the strip used the actual name of the library.)
** A framed review on the wall of Galasso's Pizza is headlined [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/olives/ "Mother Bear's crushed under Galasso's iron heel".]] Mother Bear's Pizza is a popular IU student hangout in RealLife.

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/wordplay/ Indiana University's library]] bears the name of [[Series/ParksAndRecreation a certain public official.]] (This was a RetCon, as the original version of the strip used the actual name of the library.)
** A framed review on the wall of Galasso's Pizza is headlined [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/olives/ "Mother Bear's crushed under Galasso's iron heel".]] Mother Bear's Pizza is a popular IU student hangout in RealLife.



* ShuttingUpNow: Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/mormon/ thanks someone for interrupting her]] when she got into a DiggingYourselfDeeper situation.

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* ShuttingUpNow: Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/mormon/ thanks someone for interrupting her]] when she got into a DiggingYourselfDeeper situation.



* SiblingYinYang: Sal and Walky, again. No one seemed to have even noticed they're twins. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/tall/ Danny had to have it pointed out]].
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Rachel, previously a minor character, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/redemption/ rips into the damaged Ruth]] with a brutally cynical attack on the whole idea of [[RedemptionQuest character redemption]].

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* SiblingYinYang: Sal and Walky, again. No one seemed to have even noticed they're twins. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/tall/ Danny had to have it pointed out]].
* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Rachel, previously a minor character, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/03-the-thing-i-was-before/redemption/ rips into the damaged Ruth]] with a brutally cynical attack on the whole idea of [[RedemptionQuest character redemption]].



* SlutShaming: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/petals/ Joyce does this to Roz]] after her well publicized liason with Joe, starting the two's mutual feud.
* SmallNameBigEgo: Billie was the editor of her high school newspaper, although she admittedly did no work on it, getting the title due to popularity and then using it only as social currency (even ''Walky'' knew more about Journalism than she does) -- she's rather surprised to discover that [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/pyle/ this doesn't give her a free pass to the student paper at her college]].

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* SlutShaming: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/petals/ Joyce does this to Roz]] after her well publicized liason with Joe, starting the two's mutual feud.
* SmallNameBigEgo: Billie was the editor of her high school newspaper, although she admittedly did no work on it, getting the title due to popularity and then using it only as social currency (even ''Walky'' knew more about Journalism than she does) -- she's rather surprised to discover that [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/pyle/ this doesn't give her a free pass to the student paper at her college]].



** Billie [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak/ reads Sal the riot act over never being around so she can get her to sign something that Ruth's been demanding]], leading to...

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** Billie [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak/ reads Sal the riot act over never being around so she can get her to sign something that Ruth's been demanding]], leading to...



* SureLetsGoWithThat: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/09/12/reputation/ "Yes. We say that to everybody."]]

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* SureLetsGoWithThat: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/09/12/reputation/ "Yes. We say that to everybody."]]



--> '''Billie:''' Shut up and take this. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/owe/ I didn't steal it from the back of a pickup truck in the parking lot.]]

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--> '''Billie:''' Shut up and take this. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/owe/ I didn't steal it from the back of a pickup truck in the parking lot.]]



--> '''Joyce:''' We're about to go do [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/gateway/ something completely legal]].

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--> '''Joyce:''' We're about to go do [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/gateway/ something completely legal]].



* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: Joyce [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/fun/ says as much]] to Walky for his criticizing her MRSDegree.

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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: Joyce [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/fun/ says as much]] to Walky for his criticizing her MRSDegree.



* ToiletHumor: Done in a {{flashback}} [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/congratulations/ when Mike "congratulates" Dorothy on hooking up with Walky]].

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* ToiletHumor: Done in a {{flashback}} [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/congratulations/ when Mike "congratulates" Dorothy on hooking up with Walky]].



** Becky. In the Walkyverse and her initial appearance in the beginning, plus some phone calls with Joyce, she is much sweeter and polite. Once she is pulled out of college and has to live at the college, she becomes much more [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/sneaking/ obnoxious]], [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/blbfghlpf/ insulting]] and [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/roundtheclock/ offensive]].

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** Becky. In the Walkyverse and her initial appearance in the beginning, plus some phone calls with Joyce, she is much sweeter and polite. Once she is pulled out of college and has to live at the college, she becomes much more [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/sneaking/ obnoxious]], [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/blbfghlpf/ insulting]] and [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/roundtheclock/ offensive]].



* TheUnfairSex: Walky seems to suffer a bit of this in [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/leisure/ this]] strip, courtesy of Joyce.
* TheUnsmile: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/understudy/#comments Enough of one that]] even [[DeadpanSnarker Sarah]] is left in StunnedSilence.

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* TheUnfairSex: Walky seems to suffer a bit of this in [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/05-saturdays-all-right-for-slighting/leisure/ this]] strip, courtesy of Joyce.
* TheUnsmile: [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/understudy/#comments Enough of one that]] even [[DeadpanSnarker Sarah]] is left in StunnedSilence.



** [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pun/ FRUMPH!]] (Also counts as a ShoutOut to the guy who hosts Willis' sites.)

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** [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/pun/ FRUMPH!]] (Also counts as a ShoutOut to the guy who hosts Willis' sites.)



* WhatTheHellHero: ''Mike'' of all people does this to Ethan when Ethan (who is Jewish) agrees to go to church with Joyce. [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/wow/ With one word.]]

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* WhatTheHellHero: ''Mike'' of all people does this to Ethan when Ethan (who is Jewish) agrees to go to church with Joyce. [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/02-choosing-my-religion/wow/ With one word.]]



** Mike gives [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/profane/#comment a pretty big one]] when Billie and Walky express how Joyce [[spoiler:post Toedad kidnapping]] has been more profane and angsty. Mike tells them they didn't like the old Joyce and kept trying to change her, but now that she's changed they callously want the old Joyce back.

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** Mike gives [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/profane/#comment a pretty big one]] when Billie and Walky express how Joyce [[spoiler:post Toedad kidnapping]] has been more profane and angsty. Mike tells them they didn't like the old Joyce and kept trying to change her, but now that she's changed they callously want the old Joyce back.



** '''[[Main/TheFundamentalist Ross]]''' '''[[Main/AbusiveParents McIntyre]]''': [[spoiler:''(pulls out gun)'']] ...[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/deceptress/ Lord, grant me the strength]]

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** '''[[Main/TheFundamentalist Ross]]''' '''[[Main/AbusiveParents McIntyre]]''': [[spoiler:''(pulls out gun)'']] ...[[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/deceptress/ Lord, grant me the strength]]



** Sal's response upon running into [[spoiler:Amber]] is to [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/knows/ finally take her gloves off, showing not only that her hand did indeed scar from the stab wound Amber gave her, but that she also knows that Amber is not only Amazi-Girl, but the girl that stabbed her in the hand back at the gas station.]]

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** Sal's response upon running into [[spoiler:Amber]] is to [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/knows/ finally take her gloves off, showing not only that her hand did indeed scar from the stab wound Amber gave her, but that she also knows that Amber is not only Amazi-Girl, but the girl that stabbed her in the hand back at the gas station.]]



* YouNeedToGetLaid: Daisy, the college newspaper editor, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/legitimate/ needs a girlfriend]]. ''Desperately''.

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* YouNeedToGetLaid: Daisy, the college newspaper editor, [[http://www.[[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/05-media-rumble/legitimate/ needs a girlfriend]]. ''Desperately''.

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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Sierra, who has apparently been barefoot since sixth grade (that's her best guess at least). [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It took a while for anyone to notice]], including the reader, since her feet were not shown until the characters noticed her shoelessness.


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* PrefersGoingBarefoot: Sierra, who has apparently been barefoot since sixth grade (that's her best guess at least). [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It took a while for anyone to notice]], including the reader, since her feet were not shown until the characters noticed her shoelessness.
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* AuthorTract: Willis often uses his comic to explore bigotry, specifically the way fundamentalism can nurture that quality in people and the effects it can have on others. Joyce's arc is about exorcising hers, while Becky, Leslie, and Carla's arcs are about dealing with other people's. Sal specifically is struggling with the way her parents treated her [[ButNotTooBlack for having a darker skin-tone than]] [[ParentalFavoritism her brother]]. He is not very subtle about it and has lashed at the audience for "not getting it" in the past.

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* AuthorTract: Willis often uses his comic to explore bigotry, specifically the way fundamentalism can nurture that quality in people and the effects it can have on others. Joyce's arc is about exorcising hers, while Becky, Leslie, and Carla's arcs are about dealing with other people's. Sal specifically is struggling with the way her parents treated her [[ButNotTooBlack for having a darker skin-tone than]] skin-tone]] than [[ParentalFavoritism her brother]]. He is not very subtle about it and has lashed at the audience for "not getting it" in the past.
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** PlayedForLaughs in Book 10, where [[spoiler:Blaine is chasing Mike when both are on electric scooters. [[SmugSmuke Blaine]] tries to be menacing by suggesting that Mike won't even make it to the woods he's trying to escape to, only for Mike to point out that they're using the same scooters, and thus have the same top speeds.]]

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** PlayedForLaughs in Book 10, where [[spoiler:Blaine is chasing Mike when both are on electric scooters. [[SmugSmuke [[SmugSnake Blaine]] tries to be menacing by suggesting that Mike won't even make it to the woods he's trying to escape to, only for Mike to point out that they're using the same scooters, and thus have the same top speeds.]]
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* DramaticIrony: [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/04-but-dont-give-yourself-away/teaching/ When Danny explains]] he tried to tutor Sal in math, Linda Walkerton quips that if she had problems like that, she would've just screwed one of the [=TAs=] -- which is what Sal did.
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** Joyce's mother is not only hateful toward Becky after she comes out, but ''defends'' Ross after he kidnaps his daughter at gunpoint. And then she helps Ross make bail, showing that she cares only about her religious beliefs, rather than her actual daughter. And now her latest move to sink even lower is to show up unannounced at Joyce's dorm room to dump off Joyce's stuff from the house that she is selling in order to give the money to her church; money that they need because of putting almost everything they had into bailing out Ross, an action spearheaded by Joyce's mother in the first place.

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** Joyce's mother is not only hateful toward Becky after she comes out, but ''defends'' Ross after he kidnaps his daughter at gunpoint. And then she helps Ross make bail, showing that she cares only about her religious beliefs, rather than her actual daughter. And now her latest move to sink even lower is to show Following the time skip, she shows up unannounced at Joyce's dorm room to dump off Joyce's stuff from the house that she is selling in order to give the money to her church; money that they need because of putting almost everything they had into bailing out Ross, an action spearheaded by Joyce's mother in the first place.
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** Joyce's mother is not only hateful toward Becky after she comes out, but ''defends'' Ross after he kidnaps his daughter at gunpoint. And then she helps Ross make bail, showing that she cares only about her religious beliefs, rather than her actual daughter.

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** Joyce's mother is not only hateful toward Becky after she comes out, but ''defends'' Ross after he kidnaps his daughter at gunpoint. And then she helps Ross make bail, showing that she cares only about her religious beliefs, rather than her actual daughter. And now her latest move to sink even lower is to show up unannounced at Joyce's dorm room to dump off Joyce's stuff from the house that she is selling in order to give the money to her church; money that they need because of putting almost everything they had into bailing out Ross, an action spearheaded by Joyce's mother in the first place.

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* OldShame: InUniverse example. Walky appeared in an episode of ''Hymmel the Humming Hymnal'' as a kid (he apparently had a StageMom), dressed in a pink mouse costume. However he was young enough for him to not even remember doing it by the time of the comic. That is, until he saw himself on Joyce's tape of the show. Then the memories came back to him and he had this reaction.
** Part of his reaction is actually new shame as the video confirms the allegations of ParentalFavoritism he'd just been vehemently denying to Sal.

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* OldShame: InUniverse example. Walky appeared in an episode of ''Hymmel the Humming Hymnal'' as a kid (he apparently had a StageMom), dressed in a pink mouse costume. However he was young enough for him to not even remember doing it by the time of the comic. That is, until he saw himself on Joyce's tape of the show. Then the memories came back to him and he had this reaction.
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did not like it. Part of his reaction is actually new shame as the video confirms the allegations of ParentalFavoritism he'd just been vehemently denying to Sal.
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** Taken to new levels [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/noises/ here, after Sarah]] mentions that [[ADateWithRosiePalms she has toys]].

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** Taken to new levels [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/03-answers-in-hennessy/noises/ here, after Sarah]] mentions that [[ADateWithRosiePalms she has toys]].toys.
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** Lucy wants to have sex with Walky, and is ''just'' liberated enough from her conservative religious upbringing that she's willing to do so once she and Walky have had their third date. However, she's also bound and determined to [[spoiler:turn her and Walky watching Sal's roller derby match with Danny into a double date so it can be their third]]. So much so that, when [[spoiler:Danny refuses to acknowledge the situation as a date of any kind]], Lucy snaps at him over not realizing the "pretend, self-placed hoops a Christian woman will jump through to justify getting railed." She's thend told that she can just "take Walky and go eat at a friggin' IHOP. Boom, third date." After a moment's consideration, Lucy is on board with this idea so she can then make love in what she has decided is a Christ-approved way.

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** Lucy wants to have sex with Walky, and is ''just'' liberated enough from her conservative religious upbringing that she's willing to do so once she and Walky have had their third date. However, she's also bound and determined to [[spoiler:turn her and Walky watching Sal's roller derby match with Danny into a double date so it can be their third]]. So much so that, when [[spoiler:Danny refuses to acknowledge the situation as a date of any kind]], Lucy snaps at him over not realizing the "pretend, self-placed hoops a Christian woman will jump through to justify getting railed." She's thend then told that she can just "take Walky and go eat at a friggin' IHOP. Boom, third date." After a moment's consideration, Lucy is on board with this idea so she can then make love in what she has decided is a Christ-approved way.
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: In parallel storylines, Jennifer falls (on the rebound) for ReformedCriminal Asher, while Joyce starts dating Joe. However, Asher turns out to be rather less of a bad boy than he first appears, even having things in common with [[{{Geek}} Walky]], and Joe, in an attempt to be worthy of Joyce, cleans up a bit, combing his hair and having a shave. Both women clearly prefer the older, badder versions of the guys, at least when it comes to appearance.
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** Lucy wants to have sex with Walky, and is ''just'' liberated enough from her conservative religious upbringing that she's willing to do so once she and Walky have had their third date. However, she's also bound and determined to [[spoiler:turn her and Walky watching Sal's roller derby with Danny into a double date so it can be their third]]. So much so that, when [[spoiler:Danny refuses to acknowled the situation as a date of any kind]], Lucy snaps at him over not realizing the "pretend, self-placed hoops a Christian woman will jump through to justify getting railed." She's thend told that she can just "take Walky and go eat at a friggin' IHOP. Boom, third date." After a moment's consideration, Lucy is on board with this idea so she can then make love in what she has decided is a Christ-approved way.

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** Lucy wants to have sex with Walky, and is ''just'' liberated enough from her conservative religious upbringing that she's willing to do so once she and Walky have had their third date. However, she's also bound and determined to [[spoiler:turn her and Walky watching Sal's roller derby match with Danny into a double date so it can be their third]]. So much so that, when [[spoiler:Danny refuses to acknowled acknowledge the situation as a date of any kind]], Lucy snaps at him over not realizing the "pretend, self-placed hoops a Christian woman will jump through to justify getting railed." She's thend told that she can just "take Walky and go eat at a friggin' IHOP. Boom, third date." After a moment's consideration, Lucy is on board with this idea so she can then make love in what she has decided is a Christ-approved way.

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* StatingTheSimpleSolution: Billie [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak/ reads Sal the riot act over never being around so she can get her to sign something that Ruth's been demanding]], leading to...
-->'''Sal''': Why didn't ya just ''leave'' the doggoned thing on my bed fer me?

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Billie [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/freak/ reads Sal the riot act over never being around so she can get her to sign something that Ruth's been demanding]], leading to...
-->'''Sal''': --->'''Sal''': Why didn't ya just ''leave'' the doggoned thing on my bed fer me?me?
** Lucy wants to have sex with Walky, and is ''just'' liberated enough from her conservative religious upbringing that she's willing to do so once she and Walky have had their third date. However, she's also bound and determined to [[spoiler:turn her and Walky watching Sal's roller derby with Danny into a double date so it can be their third]]. So much so that, when [[spoiler:Danny refuses to acknowled the situation as a date of any kind]], Lucy snaps at him over not realizing the "pretend, self-placed hoops a Christian woman will jump through to justify getting railed." She's thend told that she can just "take Walky and go eat at a friggin' IHOP. Boom, third date." After a moment's consideration, Lucy is on board with this idea so she can then make love in what she has decided is a Christ-approved way.
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* Anti-Joyce gets referenced again when [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/03-joementum/hussification/ Joyce attributes her sexual thoughts to her in order to process them]], which is pretty much exactly how Walkyverse Anti-Joyce worked, only not as a metaphor.

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* ** Anti-Joyce gets referenced again when [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/03-joementum/hussification/ Joyce attributes her sexual thoughts to her in order to process them]], which is pretty much exactly how Walkyverse Anti-Joyce worked, only not as a metaphor.
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** Willis does this in the post about Halloween Joyce and Walky magnets. Joyce dressed as ''Film/{{Tangled}}'' Rapunzel is captioned "Was a homeschooled child with a weird mom who told her everyone outside was a monster, and also is in a Halloween costume."

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** Willis does this in the post about Halloween Joyce and Walky magnets. Joyce dressed as ''Film/{{Tangled}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}}'' Rapunzel is captioned "Was a homeschooled child with a weird mom who told her everyone outside was a monster, and also is in a Halloween costume."

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* BaitAndSwitchComment: Joyce's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/sin/ surprisingly measured stance]] on homosexuality.
-->'''Joyce''': [Homosexuality]'s no worse than lying.\\

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Joyce's [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/sin/ surprisingly measured stance]] on homosexuality.
-->'''Joyce''': --->'''Joyce''': [Homosexuality]'s no worse than lying.\\


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** Willis does this in the post about Halloween Joyce and Walky magnets. Joyce dressed as ''Film/{{Tangled}}'' Rapunzel is captioned "Was a homeschooled child with a weird mom who told her everyone outside was a monster, and also is in a Halloween costume."
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* Anti-Joyce gets referenced again when [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/03-joementum/hussification/ Joyce attributes her sexual thoughts to her in order to process them]], which is pretty much exactly how Walkyverse Anti-Joyce worked, only not as a metaphor.

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