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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Unicron]] is behind everything that happens in the first three movies]]
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, and the Fallen and Sentinel Prime might have known about [[spoiler: Earth having to have formed around Unicron,]] which may explain their hatred for humans; in their eyes, both see the humans as nothing more than [[spoiler: Unicron's]] unholy spawns.
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, and the Fallen and Sentinel Prime might have known about [[spoiler: Earth having to have formed around Unicron,]] which may explain their hatred for humans; in their eyes, both see the humans as nothing more than [[spoiler: Unicron's]] unholy spawns.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Unicron]] [[spoiler: Unicron is behind everything that happens in the first three movies]]
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, andthe Fallen [[TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen The Fallen]] and [[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Sentinel Prime Prime]] might have known about [[spoiler: Earth having to have formed around Unicron,]] which may explain their hatred for humans; in their eyes, both see the humans as nothing more than [[spoiler: Unicron's]] unholy spawns.
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, and
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It's been long established that the Transformers setting is a multiverse. The reason why each movie seems to ignore a lot of what happened in the last ones is that we're seeing a different timeline in each film.film.
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Unicron]] is behind everything that happens in the first three movies]]
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, and the Fallen and Sentinel Prime might have known about [[spoiler: Earth having to have formed around Unicron,]] which may explain their hatred for humans; in their eyes, both see the humans as nothing more than [[spoiler: Unicron's]] unholy spawns.
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Unicron]] is behind everything that happens in the first three movies]]
[[spoiler: Not consciously,]] mind you. But seeing how he [[spoiler: is the Earth's core,]] this may bring into scope everything that has happened throughout the movies. The Allspark was probably drawn to [[spoiler: Unicron's energy]] being so similar to Cybertron's, and the Fallen and Sentinel Prime might have known about [[spoiler: Earth having to have formed around Unicron,]] which may explain their hatred for humans; in their eyes, both see the humans as nothing more than [[spoiler: Unicron's]] unholy spawns.
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** ** [[spoiler: Jossed. Earth is Unicron. Earth formed around him like in the Transformers: Prime continuity and is the main reason Cybertronian artifacts and Cybertronians themselves keep showing up on Earth. The reason at least for most Cybertronians coming there excluding the Dynasty of Primes and the Kngihts of Iacon although unknown to the Cybertronians themselves is that Cybertron needed to be restored by draining the spark of Unicron with a staff owned by the Creator Quintessa stolen from her by the Knights of Iacon and hidden on Earth.
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** [[spoiler: Half Confirmed. Archibald was a member of the Order of the Witwiccans. It's likely the Witcwicky family name originated from the Order's name. Their family motto came from the Order which whom itself got it from a quote by King Arthur himself during a battle against the Saxons.]]
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** [[spoiler:The Primes are the Creators. Quintessa is Optimus Prime's maker, aka the Creator he sought at the end of Age of Extinction, is a Prime and is also called a goddess. Sentinel Prime said to Optimus on Cybertron they were gods.]]
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** [[spoiler:The Primes are the Creators. Quintessa is Optimus Prime's maker, aka the Creator he sought at the end of Age of Extinction, is a Prime and is also called a goddess. Sentinel Prime said to Optimus on Cybertron they were gods.]]]]
[[WMG: Each movie takes place in its own universe.]]
It's been long established that the Transformers setting is a multiverse. The reason why each movie seems to ignore a lot of what happened in the last ones is that we're seeing a different timeline in each film.
[[WMG: Each movie takes place in its own universe.]]
It's been long established that the Transformers setting is a multiverse. The reason why each movie seems to ignore a lot of what happened in the last ones is that we're seeing a different timeline in each film.
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** [[spoiler: So Jossed. Earth is Unicron]]
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** [[spoiler: So Jossed. Earth is Unicron]]Unicron]]
[[WMG:The Primes are connected to the Creators]]
The arm of one of the Creators resemble that of the Ancient Transformers in Revenge of the Fallen, particularly the Primes indicating they were made in their image.
**[[spoiler:The Primes are the Creators. Quintessa is Optimus Prime's maker, aka the Creator he sought at the end of Age of Extinction, is a Prime and is also called a goddess. Sentinel Prime said to Optimus on Cybertron they were gods.]]
[[WMG:The Primes are connected to the Creators]]
The arm of one of the Creators resemble that of the Ancient Transformers in Revenge of the Fallen, particularly the Primes indicating they were made in their image.
**[[spoiler:The Primes are the Creators. Quintessa is Optimus Prime's maker, aka the Creator he sought at the end of Age of Extinction, is a Prime and is also called a goddess. Sentinel Prime said to Optimus on Cybertron they were gods.]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Optimus Prime gains the purple eyes when Quintessa mind-controlls mind-controls him]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. In the movie there is only one Megatron]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Grimlock doesn't speak]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Bumblebee survives The Last Knight]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. The big bads are Megatron and Quintessa]]
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** [[spoiler: semi-Jossed. Unicron remains inactive within Earth's core, the Knights are defenders of Earth and oppose Quintessa who is trying to kill Unicron/Earth]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Quintessa is mind controlling Optimus Prime to kill Unicron/Earth to revive Cybertron]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. We do however see the extended Witwicky family tree and a brief photo of Sam's eBay profile picture.]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Briefly with Megatron to release his Decepticons from prison. Then an enemy mine with the Autobots in the third act after Optimus Prime is un-mind controlled.]]
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed]]
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** [[spoiler: Half-Jossed Half Confirmed. Quintessa refers to herself as a Prime]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. The sequel hook ending continues with Quintessa disguising herself as a human and planning on tricking some humans into destroying Unicron/Earth]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Megatron barters with the TRF to release his subordinates from captivity while Starscream remains dead]]
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He is stuck in stasis lock. The creators are trying to resurrect him with whatever is hidden on earth, so they could wipe out every other species from existence. The prophecy is about Unicron the planet-eater's eventual return/rise, and Nemesis-Optimus is one of his "horsemen".
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He is stuck in stasis lock. The creators are trying to resurrect him with whatever is hidden on earth, so they could wipe out every other species from existence. The prophecy is about Unicron the planet-eater's eventual return/rise, and Nemesis-Optimus is one of his "horsemen"."horsemen".
** [[spoiler: So Jossed. Earth is Unicron]]
** [[spoiler: So Jossed. Earth is Unicron]]
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** [[Jossed.[[spoiler: Jossed. He gains the purple eyes when Quintessa mind-controlls him]]
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. He ran out of fuel and was orbiting jupiter beforing being called back to Cybertron and revived then after a brief battle mind-controlled by Quintessa.]]
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** [[Jossed. He gains the purple eyes when Quintessa mind-controlls him]]
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Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.
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Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught Onslaught, Hooligan, and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene Nitro resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.
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[[: Cyberton is Unicron, but...]]
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His new body being composed of earth transformium (floating cubes) allows him to change size, and he turns into his original gun altmode for a short while.
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His new body being composed of earth transformium (floating cubes) allows him to change size, and he turns into his original gun altmode for a short while.while.
[[: Cyberton is Unicron, but...]]
He is stuck in stasis lock. The creators are trying to resurrect him with whatever is hidden on earth, so they could wipe out every other species from existence. The prophecy is about Unicron the planet-eater's eventual return/rise, and Nemesis-Optimus is one of his "horsemen".
[[: Cyberton is Unicron, but...]]
He is stuck in stasis lock. The creators are trying to resurrect him with whatever is hidden on earth, so they could wipe out every other species from existence. The prophecy is about Unicron the planet-eater's eventual return/rise, and Nemesis-Optimus is one of his "horsemen".
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[[WMG: Megatron's rebuilt body...]
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[[WMG: Megatron's rebuilt body...]]]
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Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.
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Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.head.
[[WMG: Megatron's rebuilt body...]
His new body being composed of earth transformium (floating cubes) allows him to change size, and he turns into his original gun altmode for a short while.
[[WMG: Megatron's rebuilt body...]
His new body being composed of earth transformium (floating cubes) allows him to change size, and he turns into his original gun altmode for a short while.
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The official movie app's lore retcons quite a lot of the existing movie lore as well as creating continuity issues; Sentinel Prime is killed and does not leave Cybertron aboard the Ark for instance and Optimus receives the Matrix of Leadership millions of years before the events of Revenge of the Fallen as well as crashing on Earth aboard the Ark and falling into stasis. In order to explain away these issues (and similar to an above WMG), time travel will be used creating an entirely new timeline. The lore on the app is the lore for the new timeline that will be created due to time travel. Failing that, the app will continue to rewrite huge swathes of the movie lore; the Sentinel Prime in Dark of the Moon is not the same Sentinel who was killed (or the original Sentinel will be revived somehow) to preserve Dark of the Moon and the Fallen will steal the Matrix from Optimus while he's in stasis aboard the Ark sometime during the early years of humanity allowing the other Primes to steal it back and hide it to preserve Revenge of the Fallen. The entire continuity outside the movies will be jettisoned with prior movies being retconned to connect to the new lore.
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The official movie app's lore retcons quite a lot of the existing movie lore as well as creating continuity issues; Sentinel Prime is killed and does not leave Cybertron aboard the Ark for instance and Optimus receives the Matrix of Leadership millions of years before the events of Revenge of the Fallen as well as crashing on Earth aboard the Ark and falling into stasis. In order to explain away these issues (and similar to an above WMG), time travel will be used creating an entirely new timeline. The lore on the app is the lore for the new timeline that will be created due to time travel. Failing that, the app will continue to rewrite huge swathes of the movie lore; the Sentinel Prime in Dark of the Moon is not the same Sentinel who was killed (or the original Sentinel will be revived somehow) to preserve Dark of the Moon and the Fallen will steal the Matrix from Optimus while he's in stasis aboard the Ark sometime during the early years of humanity allowing the other Primes to steal it back and hide it to preserve Revenge of the Fallen. The entire continuity outside the movies will be jettisoned with prior movies being retconned to connect to the new lore.lore.
[[WMG: Megatron is trying to revive his old lieutenants.]]
Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.
[[WMG: Megatron is trying to revive his old lieutenants.]]
Explaining Barricade's return, why Onslaught and two of the other Decepticons accompanying him in the Junkyard scene resemble Long Haul, Crowbar, and Shockwave (respectively), and why, according to sizzle reel, there is a scene of him holding Starscream's head.
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* Probably jossed as it appears from the CinemaCon 2017 footage that was shown that the human Cade Yeager will be the Last Knight.
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** No longer likely. It appears the "Maker" will be an original called Quintessa, named after the Quintessons' home planet in the cartoon.
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** No longer likely. It appears the "Maker" will be an original character called Quintessa, named after the Quintessons' home planet in the cartoon.
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Where a smaller robot transforms into the head of an otherwise lifeless body, as in Anime/TransformersHeadmasters, rather than a human being binary-bonded to a Transformer as their head.
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Where a smaller robot transforms into the head of an otherwise lifeless body, as in Anime/TransformersHeadmasters, rather than a human being binary-bonded to a Transformer as their head.head.
[[WMG: This movie will be a continuity reboot of epic proportions with everything we think we know about the series so far being retconned]]
The official movie app's lore retcons quite a lot of the existing movie lore as well as creating continuity issues; Sentinel Prime is killed and does not leave Cybertron aboard the Ark for instance and Optimus receives the Matrix of Leadership millions of years before the events of Revenge of the Fallen as well as crashing on Earth aboard the Ark and falling into stasis. In order to explain away these issues (and similar to an above WMG), time travel will be used creating an entirely new timeline. The lore on the app is the lore for the new timeline that will be created due to time travel. Failing that, the app will continue to rewrite huge swathes of the movie lore; the Sentinel Prime in Dark of the Moon is not the same Sentinel who was killed (or the original Sentinel will be revived somehow) to preserve Dark of the Moon and the Fallen will steal the Matrix from Optimus while he's in stasis aboard the Ark sometime during the early years of humanity allowing the other Primes to steal it back and hide it to preserve Revenge of the Fallen. The entire continuity outside the movies will be jettisoned with prior movies being retconned to connect to the new lore.
[[WMG: This movie will be a continuity reboot of epic proportions with everything we think we know about the series so far being retconned]]
The official movie app's lore retcons quite a lot of the existing movie lore as well as creating continuity issues; Sentinel Prime is killed and does not leave Cybertron aboard the Ark for instance and Optimus receives the Matrix of Leadership millions of years before the events of Revenge of the Fallen as well as crashing on Earth aboard the Ark and falling into stasis. In order to explain away these issues (and similar to an above WMG), time travel will be used creating an entirely new timeline. The lore on the app is the lore for the new timeline that will be created due to time travel. Failing that, the app will continue to rewrite huge swathes of the movie lore; the Sentinel Prime in Dark of the Moon is not the same Sentinel who was killed (or the original Sentinel will be revived somehow) to preserve Dark of the Moon and the Fallen will steal the Matrix from Optimus while he's in stasis aboard the Ark sometime during the early years of humanity allowing the other Primes to steal it back and hide it to preserve Revenge of the Fallen. The entire continuity outside the movies will be jettisoned with prior movies being retconned to connect to the new lore.
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* "My Maker...I do": the Maker will try to assert whether Optimus is still under their control with the "redemption" line, and Optimus will answer... and then attack the Maker, because [[ExactWords he seeks redemption from serving them]].
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* "My Maker...I do": the Maker will try to assert whether Optimus is still under their control with the "redemption" line, and Optimus will answer... and then attack the Maker, because [[ExactWords he seeks redemption from serving them]].them]].
[[WMG: Cogman will be a Headmaster in the vein of the Japanese interpretation of the concept]]
Where a smaller robot transforms into the head of an otherwise lifeless body, as in Anime/TransformersHeadmasters, rather than a human being binary-bonded to a Transformer as their head.
[[WMG: Cogman will be a Headmaster in the vein of the Japanese interpretation of the concept]]
Where a smaller robot transforms into the head of an otherwise lifeless body, as in Anime/TransformersHeadmasters, rather than a human being binary-bonded to a Transformer as their head.
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** No longer likely. It appears the "Maker" will be an original called Quintessa, named after the Quintessons' home planet in the cartoon.
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** Alternatively, he may have just been wounded, captured, and thrown into the Decepticon prison that humanity has apparently been maintaining.
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Taking from another Troper's WMG above, we'll find out that the Witcwicky motto actually belonged to Sir Burton's secret order, and that [[{{Film/Transformers}} Archibald Witwicky didn't discover Megatron]] by accident: he was ''looking for him''! For some reason, after he became mad his descendants were kept in the dark about the rest of the order (maybe to protect them from scrutiny by Sectro 7; maybe because Archibald had gone rogue) and forgot his involvement, but they kept the motto as their own.
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Taking from another Troper's WMG above, we'll find out that the Witcwicky motto actually belonged to Sir Burton's secret order, and that [[{{Film/Transformers}} Archibald Witwicky didn't discover Megatron]] by accident: he was ''looking for him''! For some reason, after he became mad his descendants were kept in the dark about the rest of the order (maybe to protect them from scrutiny by Sectro Sector 7; maybe because Archibald had gone rogue) and forgot his involvement, but they kept the motto as their own.
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* Bonus points if the designs are more G1 accurate this time.time.
[[WMG: Cogman is an {{Expy}} of [[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dutch]], or maybe Dutch himself]]
Let's count the similarities:
* Dutch was Simmons' butler; Cogman is ''someone's'' robot butler.
* Cogman is said to be TheSociopath; Dutch apparently has [[DarkAndTroubledPast a violent past]] [[ThatManIsDead he doesn't want to go back to]].
* Dutch is human; Cogman is a Headmaster, which usually is a human (or [[HumanAlien Nebulan]]) altered to become a Transformer's head, or a human-sized Transformer that becomes the head of a lifeless body.
If they do turn out to be the same character but somehow suffer TheOtherDarrin, it could be easily [[{{Handwave}} handwaved]] as being due to the binary-bonding process.
[[WMG: Optimus' quotes from the trailers are actually [[QuoteMine Quote Mined]]]]
Basically, they will have a completely different context once in the film:
* "Forgive me": rather than being a BrainwashedAndCrazy ApologeticAttacker, he will have broken free from the brainwashing and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realized the damage he caused]].
* "My Maker...I do": the Maker will try to assert whether Optimus is still under their control with the "redemption" line, and Optimus will answer... and then attack the Maker, because [[ExactWords he seeks redemption from serving them]].
[[WMG: Cogman is an {{Expy}} of [[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dutch]], or maybe Dutch himself]]
Let's count the similarities:
* Dutch was Simmons' butler; Cogman is ''someone's'' robot butler.
* Cogman is said to be TheSociopath; Dutch apparently has [[DarkAndTroubledPast a violent past]] [[ThatManIsDead he doesn't want to go back to]].
* Dutch is human; Cogman is a Headmaster, which usually is a human (or [[HumanAlien Nebulan]]) altered to become a Transformer's head, or a human-sized Transformer that becomes the head of a lifeless body.
If they do turn out to be the same character but somehow suffer TheOtherDarrin, it could be easily [[{{Handwave}} handwaved]] as being due to the binary-bonding process.
[[WMG: Optimus' quotes from the trailers are actually [[QuoteMine Quote Mined]]]]
Basically, they will have a completely different context once in the film:
* "Forgive me": rather than being a BrainwashedAndCrazy ApologeticAttacker, he will have broken free from the brainwashing and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realized the damage he caused]].
* "My Maker...I do": the Maker will try to assert whether Optimus is still under their control with the "redemption" line, and Optimus will answer... and then attack the Maker, because [[ExactWords he seeks redemption from serving them]].
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* In Age of Extinctiong, we find out Megatron uploading his mind into a Sparkless transformium body that was built by KSI. He might not have been the only one to do so.
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* In Age of Extinctiong, we find out Megatron uploading his mind into a Sparkless transformium body that was built by KSI. He might not have been the only one to do so.so.
[[WMG: This movie will be both a grand finale and a stealth reboot]]
* Long story short, this movie will do what the X-Men movies did and will pull a Days of Future Past. This is assuming from the trailers that time travel really is involved and the scenes with the knights and nazis are not simply flashbacks. The movie will end with the timeline being reset, wiping the board clear so Hasbro can better fit the Transformers movies into the Hasbro Cinematic Universe.
* This will also have the added benefit of bringing back deceased characters like Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz, Starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave.
* Bonus points if the designs are more G1 accurate this time.
[[WMG: This movie will be both a grand finale and a stealth reboot]]
* Long story short, this movie will do what the X-Men movies did and will pull a Days of Future Past. This is assuming from the trailers that time travel really is involved and the scenes with the knights and nazis are not simply flashbacks. The movie will end with the timeline being reset, wiping the board clear so Hasbro can better fit the Transformers movies into the Hasbro Cinematic Universe.
* This will also have the added benefit of bringing back deceased characters like Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz, Starscream, Soundwave, and Shockwave.
* Bonus points if the designs are more G1 accurate this time.
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** ''TF 6'' is slated to be a Bumblebee-centric spin-off. So, even more unlikely.
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Given that we see Bubblebee wield what appears to be the Forge of Solus Prime against Optimus in the Super Bowl Extended TV Spot, it's looking very likely.
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Given that we see Bubblebee wield what appears to be the Forge of Solus Prime against Optimus in the Super Bowl Extended TV Spot, it's looking very likely.likely.
[[WMG: Barricade ''didn't'' survive Chicago, but he came back the same way Megatron did.]]
* In Age of Extinctiong, we find out Megatron uploading his mind into a Sparkless transformium body that was built by KSI. He might not have been the only one to do so.
[[WMG: Barricade ''didn't'' survive Chicago, but he came back the same way Megatron did.]]
* In Age of Extinctiong, we find out Megatron uploading his mind into a Sparkless transformium body that was built by KSI. He might not have been the only one to do so.
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[[WMG: The female "maker" is Solus Prime]].
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[[WMG: The female "maker" is Solus Prime]].Prime]].
Given that we see Bubblebee wield what appears to be the Forge of Solus Prime against Optimus in the Super Bowl Extended TV Spot, it's looking very likely.
Given that we see Bubblebee wield what appears to be the Forge of Solus Prime against Optimus in the Super Bowl Extended TV Spot, it's looking very likely.
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[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsaJkQpVn4M Just like the G1 series]]
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[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsaJkQpVn4M Just like the G1 series]]series]]
[[WMG: The female "maker" is Solus Prime]].
[[WMG: The female "maker" is Solus Prime]].
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[[WMG: The round thing in the end is an eye]] Just after Optimus's attack and before the film's title we see a large eye when the camera zooms outwards.
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[[WMG: The round thing in the end is an eye]] Just after Optimus's attack and before the film's title we see a large eye when the camera zooms outwards.outwards.
[[WMG: Bumblebee [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight will pull Prime back from the mind control]]]]
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsaJkQpVn4M Just like the G1 series]]
[[WMG: Bumblebee [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight will pull Prime back from the mind control]]]]
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsaJkQpVn4M Just like the G1 series]]
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[[WMG: Isabela Moner's character is an aged-up {{Expy}} of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Sari Sumdac]]]]
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[[WMG: Isabela Moner's character Izabela is an aged-up {{Expy}} of [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Sari Sumdac]]]]
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* Shortly after Age of Extinction, Optimus is KilledOffForReal by one of the Creators. His dead body is then, possessed by one of them. Using Optimus's body, the Creator tries to travel back in time in an attempt to destroy the human race. Believing that Optimus is brainwashed, Bumblebee tries to stop him. They fight to the death, only for Bumblebee to realize that Optimus was DeadAllAlong.
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* Shortly after Age of Extinction, Optimus is KilledOffForReal by one of the Creators. His dead body is then, possessed by one of them. Using Optimus's body, the Creator tries to travel back in time in an attempt to destroy the human race.race and restore Cybertron. Believing that Optimus is brainwashed, Bumblebee tries to stop him. They fight to the death, only for Bumblebee to realize that Optimus was DeadAllAlong.
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[[WMG: Optimus Prime is DeadAllAlong.]]
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[[WMG: Optimus Prime is DeadAllAlong.DeadAllAlong and is now a Zombie Autobot.]]
