Follow TV Tropes

Following

History WMG / TransformersRobotsinDisguise

Go To

OR

Added: 433

Changed: 153

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* [[spoiler:Well, he ''does'' talk about a defeat on Earth that wasn't mentioned before and wasn't expanded upon. Maybe it's something related to that?]]


Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: [[spoiler: Megatronus hasn' allied with Unicron in this continuity.]]]]
[[spoiler: From what we've seen of the SeasonFinale, Megatronus was trying to destroy oth the [=AllSpark=] ([[BigGood Primus]]) and the Anti-Spark ([[SatanicArchetype Unicron]]), so it's unlikely he's following Unicron's orders. Of course, this means [[FridgeHorror there's another being with power equal or perhaps greater than both backing him up]]...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Grimlock will do something about his lack of a vehicle mode.]]
We know he hates the fact that not having a vehicle mode keeps him out of missions near humans, but isn't willing (or possible isn't able) to give up his dinosaur form. In an effort to get a vehicle mode, he'll ask Fixit to give him "The Triple-changer Procedure", which will be risky and put him out of action long enough to be able to pull a BigDamnHeroes later. Perhaps he'll be a monster truck that turns into a monster dinosaur.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** And be voiced by Creator/FrankWelker.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

**The screwing has happened, how it gets dealt with remains to be seen.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Unit:E is covering for the Bee Team or at least knows that Transformers have returned to Earth.]]
At this point, Bumblebee and his crew have operated in quite a few crowded areas and the Decepticons have been spotted by a number of humans. While these isolated incidents could be easily ignored and forgotten by the general public, the government is familiar with Cybertronians and is probably wondering why Bee hasn't made contact and explained what's going on yet.


[[WMG: The Council has no plans to help the Earth.]]
The Council on Cyberton has access to Spacebridge technology and more than enough Autobots available to send reinforcements. But so far, they've only sent Jazz and the bounty hunters to return Bumblebee for leaving without their permission. The Council may have been intending to dump the prisoners (and Fixit as well) in a sun or black hole and decided that Earth is far enough away that they can ignore the problem.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, but there's no explanation of his change in demeanour aside from mentioning his exile by the other Primes.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Knock Out will be in an episode of Robots In Disguise. and be on the receiving end of a They still belong to us lecture.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** The writers seem to have accounted for the toy by having Starscream [[spoiler: imprison Prowl and replace him on the team with Scoop, who has a similar enough altmode to Scrapper (and is Devastator's right leg, with Hook going back to the head position) to be an effective visual substitute.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Even taking into account the ArtShift, Megatronus' face and body are just far too different from TFP Megatron. More importantly, though, it makes far more sense for the Primes to be training Optimus to fight a rogue member of their group than it does to just duke it out with Megs again. Perhaps if Optimus meets Solus at some point, she'll offer some explanation as to why Megatronus went from "tragically misguided" to "kill everything" between ancient times and now.

to:

Even taking into account the ArtShift, Megatronus' face and body are just far too different from TFP Megatron. More importantly, though, it makes far more sense for the Primes to be training Optimus to fight a rogue member of their group than it does to just duke it out with Megs again. Perhaps if Optimus meets Solus at some point, she'll offer some explanation as to why how Megatronus went from "tragically misguided" to "kill everything" between ancient times and now.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: The "Megatronus" coming to the show later is not Megatron, but the actual Fallen.]]
Even taking into account the ArtShift, Megatronus' face and body are just far too different from TFP Megatron. More importantly, though, it makes far more sense for the Primes to be training Optimus to fight a rogue member of their group than it does to just duke it out with Megs again. Perhaps if Optimus meets Solus at some point, she'll offer some explanation as to why Megatronus went from "tragically misguided" to "kill everything" between ancient times and now.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

*Yep, it's confirmed.




to:

* Actually, according to the mobile game that's [[spoiler:Megatronus (previously known as The Fallen)]].




to:

*And now news about the mobile game indicate the return of [[spoiler:Megatronus, The Fallen]].




to:

*Sounds likely: [[AllInTheManual one of the books]] indicates he's searchig for an "Anti-Spark" (which in ''Prime'' is said to be [[spoiler:Dark Energon, the blood of Unicron]]), and news on the mobile game confirm the return of [[spoiler:Megatronus, The Fallen and first servant of Unicron]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Steeljaw's ultimate defeat will come from the most unlikely source of all, [[spoiler: Minitron]]]]
Who will want revenge for Steeljaw abandoning him to face the Autobots alone.
* And Bumblebee will probably sweeten the deal by offering favorable testimony at [[spoiler: Minitron's]] trial.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: Steeljaw's endgame involves gaining control over [[spoiler: Unicron's deactivated and unoccupied body at the earth's core]].]]

to:

[[WMG: Steeljaw's endgame involves gaining control over [[spoiler: Unicron's deactivated and unoccupied body at the earth's core]].]]
core]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Steeljack had always planned on coming to earth, and sabotaged the Alchemor so it would crash there. Considering how intelligent and crafty he's shown himself to be so far, this isn't much of a stretch. And [[spoiler: Unicron's body]] would be a deadly weapon in the hands of anyone who managed to it working.

to:


Steeljack had always planned on coming to earth, and sabotaged the Alchemor so it would crash there. Considering how intelligent and crafty he's shown himself to be so far, this isn't much of a stretch. And [[spoiler: Unicron's body]] would be a deadly weapon in the hands of anyone who managed to get it working.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: Steeljaw's endgame involves gaining control over [[spoiler: Unicron's deactivated and unoccupied body at the earth's core.]]

to:

[[WMG: Steeljaw's endgame involves gaining control over [[spoiler: Unicron's deactivated and unoccupied body at the earth's core.core]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Steeljaw's endgame involves gaining control over [[spoiler: Unicron's deactivated and unoccupied body at the earth's core.]]
Steeljack had always planned on coming to earth, and sabotaged the Alchemor so it would crash there. Considering how intelligent and crafty he's shown himself to be so far, this isn't much of a stretch. And [[spoiler: Unicron's body]] would be a deadly weapon in the hands of anyone who managed to it working.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* Correction: Predaking, Sky Lynx and Darksteel killed him. After the gave him a good beating.



Either way, he will act as a KnightOfCerebus, running after/from something much worse and more dangerous than the escaped Decepticons.

to:

** Either way, he will act as a KnightOfCerebus, running after/from something much worse and more dangerous than the escaped Decepticons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Starscream will come back as a ghost and possess one of the transformers]]
In ''Predacons Rising'' of the [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime previous series]], it's heavily implied that Predaking and his Predacons close in on Starscream and maul and kill him. Should that he true, then, as in G1 tradition, Starscream's spark will survive and he will come back as a ghost in ''Robots in Disguise'' and try to possess one of the transformers.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* It's worth noting that in War for Cybertron, the Neutral Transformers in the first mission had yellow running lights, as opposed to red for the Autobots and purple for Decepticons. Steeljaw and Grimlock both have primarily yellow lights as well.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


According to the comics, NAIL's use yellow as a color much like Autobot's and Decepticon's use blue and red. Steeljaw is very clever so he could have easily infiltrated the Alchemor and masterminded the sabotage and crash, then posing as a Decepticon to gain followers.

to:

According to the comics, NAIL's use yellow as a color much like Autobot's and Decepticon's use blue and red. Steeljaw is very clever so he could have easily infiltrated the Alchemor and masterminded the sabotage and crash, then posing posed as a Decepticon to gain followers.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Steeljaw and Grimlock are NAIL's.]]

According to the comics, NAIL's use yellow as a color much like Autobot's and Decepticon's use blue and red. Steeljaw is very clever so he could have easily infiltrated the Alchemor and masterminded the sabotage and crash, then posing as a Decepticon to gain followers.

Grimlock is also a NAIL but has blue eyes to denote that he is aligned with the Autobots instead of red like a Decepticon much like the Velocitron and Animatron transformers that joined the Autobots and Decepticons don't have marks even after officially joining up.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The reason the Matrix hurt Optimus Prime while he was it's carrier is precisely because he IS the one supposed to carry it.]]]]
[[spoiler: When Optimus asked Rodimus how it felt to carry the Matrix and Rodimus answered that it felt good to him, Optimus was dejected because he believed that, since he himself feels pain when carrying it, that the Matrix was rejecting Optimus in favor of Rodimus. However, Optimus is wrong: the reason the Matrix hurts Optimus is because Optimus rightfully sees the Matrix as a burden and a responsibility, and the Matrix reacts in kind. It is not rejecting him, on the contrary, the pain the Matrix is causing is a reminder to Optimus of the huge responsibility it is. None of the previous false Primes (Nova, Nominus, Sentinel and Zeta) felt discomfort while carrying the Matrix because they all saw it as a resource and felt entitled to it. Optimus is the only one who can rightfully be called a Prime, so he feels the weight of carrying the Matrix.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Apply Occam's Razor, and you'll find that the idea of the Alchemor's prisoners being ALL petty criminals/mentally ill bots/people the Council didn't like who were forcibly rebranded requires a lot more assumptions than the other option-- namely that, yes, they ''are'' just plain Decepticons of the usual Megatron-following variety. However, I'm certain that most of them are from either before the Great War fully consumed Cybertron, or some time in the middle. This can be seen based on the last memories of some of the criminals-- Terrashock was presumably caught in the middle of his "errand" for Contrail, Minitron had no idea Optimus Prime was dead, most of them have wheels as opposed to the hover modes that modern characters like Sideswipe and Strongarm had...many of the same hints used by the "rebranded" camp. As for what simple crooks, professional criminals, and dangerous head-cases were doing among the Decepticon ranks, it's not hard to imagine that Megatron or his recruiters specifically targeted outcasts like them, promising them a better place in his new order. They joined of their own volition, and were branded accordingly-- the tracking devices were a later addition by their Autobot jailers.

to:

Apply Occam's Razor, and you'll find that the idea of the Alchemor's prisoners being ALL petty criminals/mentally ill bots/people the Council didn't like who were forcibly rebranded requires a lot more assumptions than the other option-- namely that, yes, they ''are'' just plain Decepticons of the usual Megatron-following variety. However, I'm certain that most of them are from either before the Great War fully consumed Cybertron, or some time in the middle. This can be seen based on the last memories and physical features of some of the criminals-- Terrashock was presumably caught in the middle of his "errand" for Contrail, Minitron had no idea Optimus Prime was dead, most of them have wheels as opposed to the hover modes that modern characters like Sideswipe and Strongarm had...many of the same hints used by the "rebranded" camp. As for what simple crooks, professional criminals, and dangerous head-cases were doing among the Decepticon ranks, it's not hard to imagine that Megatron or his recruiters specifically targeted outcasts like them, promising them a better place in his new order. They joined of their own volition, and were branded accordingly-- the tracking devices were a later addition by their Autobot jailers.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: The Decepticons from the Alchemor-- with the exception of Grimlock-- are ''not'' "rebranded" or anything of the sort.]]
Apply Occam's Razor, and you'll find that the idea of the Alchemor's prisoners being ALL petty criminals/mentally ill bots/people the Council didn't like who were forcibly rebranded requires a lot more assumptions than the other option-- namely that, yes, they ''are'' just plain Decepticons of the usual Megatron-following variety. However, I'm certain that most of them are from either before the Great War fully consumed Cybertron, or some time in the middle. This can be seen based on the last memories of some of the criminals-- Terrashock was presumably caught in the middle of his "errand" for Contrail, Minitron had no idea Optimus Prime was dead, most of them have wheels as opposed to the hover modes that modern characters like Sideswipe and Strongarm had...many of the same hints used by the "rebranded" camp. As for what simple crooks, professional criminals, and dangerous head-cases were doing among the Decepticon ranks, it's not hard to imagine that Megatron or his recruiters specifically targeted outcasts like them, promising them a better place in his new order. They joined of their own volition, and were branded accordingly-- the tracking devices were a later addition by their Autobot jailers.

Grimlock is the exception-- his presence among the prisoners, I'm certain, is ''meant'' to be an anomaly. Between his insistence that he's not a criminal, his incredibly short rap sheet (that we never even see), and the fact that the "same" character was known to be an Autobot from the start are intentional hints that there's something fishy going on. And that something could easily be corruption within the new post-war government, as others have suggested-- it's just that Grimlock is the hint, while the other Cons are not.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Quite likely so far. The Japanese opening shows a very Galvatron like Decepticon hidden in shadow. So its likely that he will appear in season 1 even.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Thunderhoof will be TheStarscream to Steeljaw.]]
* Because the real deal is currently MIA, and because, as the former leader of Cybertron's biggest criminal empire, Thunderhoof isn't likely to want to play second-fiddle to Steeljaw and will seek to take over the gang of Decepticons Steeljaw assembles and then use them to establish a new empire on Earth. Steeljaw, per the trope, [[GenreSavvy is probably entirely aware of this and has planned accordingly for when Thunderhoof makes his move.]]

Added: 436

Changed: 20

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[WMG: Grimlock's history will be broadly consistent with Fall of Cybertron and the IDW Prime comics.]]
Mairghread Scott is Script Coordinator for the show, and she also wrote both the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, which were centered on Grimlock and the Dinobots and maintained some impressive ArcWelding with their Fall of Cybertron backstory. It stands to reason that Ms. Scott would strive to make sure what is basically her character remains consistent.

to:

[[WMG: Grimlock's history will be broadly consistent with Fall ''Fall of Cybertron Cybertron'' and the IDW Prime ''Prime'' comics.]]
Mairghread Scott is Script Coordinator for the show, and she also wrote both the Rage ''Rage of the Dinobots Dinobots'' and Beast Hunters ''Beast Hunters'' comics, which were centered on Grimlock and the Dinobots and maintained some impressive ArcWelding with their Fall ''Fall of Cybertron Cybertron'' backstory. It stands to reason that Ms. Scott would strive to make sure what is basically her character remains consistent.


Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: The show takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture.]]
Cybertron has been rebuilt and repopulated (by both newly-born protoforms and returned Cybertronians). And the [[SkyscraperCity city in Earth looks very shiny]]. And the look on Bumblebee's face when he returned to Earth, as if it has been a ''very'' long time.

[[WMG: Soundwave will return.]]
He somehow escaped the Shadowzone. He'll resemble more like his G1 look, and talk more.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Hank, the girl introduced in episode 4, will eventually become Grimlock's partner]]
Grimlock already seems to have taken a liking to her (despite the fact that she hasn't been formally introduced to the Autobots yet).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Megatron will return in the Season Finale]]
Depending on how they decide to pull his HeelFaceTurn, he may appear as:
*[[TheAtoner Genuinely repentant and trying to make up for his evil ways]] by helping to hunt down the most dangerous convicts; however, since he has quite the dark history and one doesn't renounce a lifetime of violence overnight, there will be tension between him and Team Bumblebee (and maybe even a fight).
*Having faked his redemption and trying to create a new Decepticon army.
*Being genuine in his regret, but [[BrainwashedandCrazy under the control of something much worse]].
Either way, he will act as a KnightOfCerebus, running after/from something much worse and more dangerous than the escaped Decepticons.

[[WMG: One of the series arcs will be the return of the Thirteen]]
We already have [[spoiler:Ghost Optimus...]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[WMG: Denny is an undercover Unit:E agent.]]
Think about it-- he was remarkably mellow about the idea of giant alien robots, all too willing to join up with them, and has an inordinate amount of knowledge about industrial targets that are likely to be hit by Decepticons (the oil refinery Hammerstrike attacked, the liquid oxygen plant Chop Shop went after). On top of that, he was somehow able to produce a convincing fake ID for the chemical plant, and always seems to have good cover-up ideas. If he's not just impossibly lucky, he may very well know more than he lets on. Bonus points if his work with Unit:E is also part of why his marriage with Rusty's mom has apparently fallen apart.

Top