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Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from ''The Critic'' appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably made after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

** Alternatively, Jay's appearance in ''A Star is Burns'' isn't canon to ''The Critic'' (probably AllJustADream for him), but his cameos in ''Hurricane Neddy'' and ''The Ziff Who Came to Dinner'' were. When his show got canceled, Jay suffered a breakdown and wound up in that same hospital seen in ''Neddy''. Once he got better, he went on to do his web show, then fell on hard times when it too got cancelled. He probably became alcoholic, which is why he shows up at Moe's in ''Ziff.''

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Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. Jay exists in TheSimpsons ''The Simpsons'' universe, hence why no else one from ''The Critic'' appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably made after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

** Alternatively, Jay's appearance in ''A "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E18AStarIsBurns A Star is Burns'' Burns]]" isn't canon to ''The Critic'' (probably AllJustADream for him), but his cameos in ''Hurricane Neddy'' and ''The Ziff Who Came to Dinner'' were. When his show got canceled, Jay suffered a breakdown and wound up in that same hospital seen in ''Neddy''. Once he got better, he went on to do his web show, then fell on hard times when it too got cancelled. He probably became alcoholic, which is why he shows up at Moe's in ''Ziff.''
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A famous scene in this show involves Duke making the word "quyzbuk", and when Marty calls him out for it, phoning Noah Webster to bribe him to make it a word, supposedly ignoring Noah being dead for who-knows-long. However, it's entirely likely that Duke knows this, and was just playing so that way Marty (who's young and gullible in this scene) will shut up about it.

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A famous scene in this show involves Duke making the word "quyzbuk", and when Marty calls him out for it, phoning Noah Webster to bribe him to make it a word, supposedly ignoring Noah being dead for who-knows-long. However, it's entirely likely that Duke knows this, and was just playing so that way Marty (who's young and gullible in this scene) will shut up about it.it.
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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians; note how much Homer felt threatened by Jay, and how Jay was able to impress everyone and even charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGyver'' is gay...).

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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians; note how much Homer felt threatened by Jay, and how Jay was able to impress everyone and even charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGyver'' ''Series/{{MacGyver|1985}}'' is gay...).
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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians, note how threatened Homer felt, and how he was able to charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGyver'' is gay...).

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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians, Springfieldians; note how much Homer felt threatened Homer felt, by Jay, and how he Jay was able to impress everyone and even charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGyver'' is gay...).
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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians, note how threatened Homer felt, and how he was able to charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGuyver'' is gay...).

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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a cut above most Springfieldians, note how threatened Homer felt, and how he was able to charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGuyver'' ''Series/MacGyver'' is gay...).
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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's a BigFishInASmallPond.

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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's still a BigFishInASmallPond.
cut above most Springfieldians, note how threatened Homer felt, and how he was able to charm Patty and Selma (until he told them ''Series/MacGuyver'' is gay...).
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** Or, he's still a ButtMonkey in New York, but in a place like Springfield he's a BigFishInASmallPond.
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** Him giving Jay a kiss and calling Jay his "Special little guy" was him using the situation and his reputation for being nice to those he's about to punish to get in a moment of genuine affection without appearing too far out of character.
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** Another hypothesis is, Jay wasn't a ButtMonkey in the episode because the "actual" Jay (or more likely, Duke) demanded the writers portray him more sympathetically. Of course, that pissed off Matt Groening quite a bit - meaning, in the universe of ''The Critic'', Matt hates that episode not because it's a crossover, but because they sold out to a celebrity...like they would often do on the coming years.

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** Alternatively, Jay's appearance in ''A Star is Burns'' isn't canon to ''The Critic'' (probably AllJustADream for him), but his cameos in ''Hurricane Neddy'' and ''The Ziff Who Came to Dinner'' were. When his show got canceled, Jay suffered a breakdown and wound up in that same hospital seen in ''Neddy''. Once he got better, he went on to do his web show, then fell on hard times when it too got cancelled. He probably became alcoholic, which is why he shows up at Moe's in ''Ziff.'' Possible reasons that we don't see the rest of the cast with Jay is either his breakdown unintentionally scared them off (probably the case with Marty and Margot), they gave up on him and moved on (probably with Jay's ex-wife), or they passed away (probably with Duke, Doris, & Jay's parents, if they didn't abandon him beforehand). Alice could either have been scared off or she left him, which is why Jay became attracted to Jennifer.

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** Alternatively, Jay's appearance in ''A Star is Burns'' isn't canon to ''The Critic'' (probably AllJustADream for him), but his cameos in ''Hurricane Neddy'' and ''The Ziff Who Came to Dinner'' were. When his show got canceled, Jay suffered a breakdown and wound up in that same hospital seen in ''Neddy''. Once he got better, he went on to do his web show, then fell on hard times when it too got cancelled. He probably became alcoholic, which is why he shows up at Moe's in ''Ziff.'' ''
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Possible reasons that we don't see the rest of the cast with Jay is either his breakdown unintentionally scared them off (probably the case with Marty and Margot), they gave up on him and moved on (probably with Jay's ex-wife), or they passed away (probably with Duke, Doris, & Jay's parents, if they didn't abandon him beforehand). Alice could either Vlada's still got a restaurant to run, so whether he cares about Jay as a friend is up to you.
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have been scared off or terrifying enough for Alice to fear for Penny's safety, and so she left him, Jay and NYC and never saw him again, which is why Jay became attracted to Jennifer.
Jennifer is Jay's love interest in the web show. Jennifer stuck around until the show got cancelled, then she dumped him and moved on.
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** Alternatively, Jay's appearance in ''A Star is Burns'' isn't canon to ''The Critic'' (probably AllJustADream for him), but his cameos in ''Hurricane Neddy'' and ''The Ziff Who Came to Dinner'' were. When his show got canceled, Jay suffered a breakdown and wound up in that same hospital seen in ''Neddy''. Once he got better, he went on to do his web show, then fell on hard times when it too got cancelled. He probably became alcoholic, which is why he shows up at Moe's in ''Ziff.'' Possible reasons that we don't see the rest of the cast with Jay is either his breakdown unintentionally scared them off (probably the case with Marty and Margot), they gave up on him and moved on (probably with Jay's ex-wife), or they passed away (probably with Duke, Doris, & Jay's parents, if they didn't abandon him beforehand). Alice could either have been scared off or she left him, which is why Jay became attracted to Jennifer.
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If the Critic gets credit for predicting movies, it should also be noted this joke happens so similarly, it deserves notice.

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[[WMG: The people who made the Saturday Night Live 40th Anniversary Special borrowed from this show.]]
In "Dukerella", Jay tries to get Hollywood to make the movie "Dr. Strangelovitz", but the producers think he died. 20 years later, the SNL 40 special has two jokes in it where they list Jon Lovitz as deceased, only to immediately show him in the audience, confused as why people think he's gone.
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The DNA Test was just inaccurate.

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The DNA Test was just inaccurate.
results were switched or of poor quality.
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[[WMG: Duke knows Noah Webster is dead.]]
A famous scene in this show involves Duke making the word "quyzbuk", and when Marty calls him out for it, phoning Noah Webster to bribe him to make it a word, supposedly ignoring Noah being dead for who-knows-long. However, it's entirely likely that Duke knows this, and was just playing so that way Marty (who's young and gullible in this scene) will shut up about it.
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[[HilariousInHindsight Many jokes on the show came true in real life.]] The show had a bigger cult following than we know and any bad movie that's come out or [[TheLostWorldJurassicPark sequel they predicted]] was due to this show.

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[[HilariousInHindsight Many jokes on the show came true in real life.]] The show had a bigger cult following than we know and any bad movie that's come out or [[TheLostWorldJurassicPark [[Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark sequel they predicted]] was due to this show.show.
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[[HilariousInHindsight Many jokes on the show came true in real life.]] The show had a bigger cult following than we know and any bad movie that's come out or [[TheLostWorldJurassicPark sequel they predicted]] was due to this show

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[[HilariousInHindsight Many jokes on the show came true in real life.]] The show had a bigger cult following than we know and any bad movie that's come out or [[TheLostWorldJurassicPark sequel they predicted]] was due to this showshow.
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The DNA Test was just inaccurate.

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The DNA Test was just inaccurate.inaccurate.

[[WMG: Every movie in Hollywood since 1994 has taken a page from the show.]]
[[HilariousInHindsight Many jokes on the show came true in real life.]] The show had a bigger cult following than we know and any bad movie that's come out or [[TheLostWorldJurassicPark sequel they predicted]] was due to this show
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[[WMG: Regarding Jay's appearance on TheSimpsons..]]
Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from TheCritic appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably made after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

[[WMG: Jay's boss Duke Phillips is a DepravedBisexual]]

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[[WMG: Regarding [[WMG:Regarding Jay's appearance on TheSimpsons..''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''..]]
Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from TheCritic ''The Critic'' appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably made after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

[[WMG: Jay's [[WMG:Jay's boss Duke Phillips is a DepravedBisexual]]



[[WMG: Doris really is Jay's Mother.]]

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[[WMG: Doris [[WMG:Doris really is Jay's Mother.]]
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He's the one who has a crush on Jay and makes jokes about Jay to cover up his insecurity. He's from the South where homosexuality isn't as tolerated.

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He's the one who has a crush on Jay and makes jokes about Jay to cover up his insecurity. He's from the South where homosexuality isn't as tolerated.tolerated.

[[WMG: Doris really is Jay's Mother.]]
The DNA Test was just inaccurate.

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Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from TheCritic appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably filmed after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

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Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from TheCritic appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably filmed made after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.AdamWesting.

[[WMG: Jay's boss Duke Phillips is a DepravedBisexual]]
He's the one who has a crush on Jay and makes jokes about Jay to cover up his insecurity. He's from the South where homosexuality isn't as tolerated.
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[[WMG: Regarding Jay's appearance on TheSimpsons..]]
Jay was a guest star on TheSimpsons. Jay exists in TheSimpsons universe, hence why no else one from TheCritic appeared. Jay's not a ButtMonkey in his appearance which was probably filmed after he met Alice or is a case of inverted AdamWesting.

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