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[[WMG: Spiral Energy (or something like it) does have an effect in Real Life: we just call it "[[ForWantOfANail chaos theory]]"]]

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[[WMG: Spiral Energy (or something like it) does have an effect in Real Life: we just call it "[[ForWantOfANail chaos theory]]"]]"chaos theory"]]
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* CONFIRMED by the UsefulNotes/{{DVD}} version of Lord Genome's flashback: Guame is sitting on his shoulder, acting as his "Boota."

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* CONFIRMED by the UsefulNotes/{{DVD}} Platform/{{DVD}} version of Lord Genome's flashback: Guame is sitting on his shoulder, acting as his "Boota."



** Before taking over gaming, the Anti-Spirals took over the American comic book industry. The result was much the same: see [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]].

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** Before taking over gaming, the Anti-Spirals took over the American comic book industry. The result was much the same: see [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks [[MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]].
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* Continuing from the above, the Anti-Spirals were responsible for the death of the Dreamcast. But during Sega's decline in [[TheNineties the mid-to-late 1990s]], and especially after they were out of the market, gaming took on a decidedly DarkerAndEdgier slant. First with VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto-style sandbox games set in [[CriminalProcedural crime-ridden cities]], then with [[RealIsBrown realistic]] {{First Person Shooter}}s where the player is not an individual hero but a single soldier who may or may not have any real effect on the outcome of the war, games are going [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism down to the cynical end of the scale]], very much fitting with the Anti-Spiral motive of creating cynicism and despair. Nintendo and Sega, makers of decidedly more idealistic games that gave gaming actual "faces" like [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] and [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]] (remember the ''faceless'' Anti-Spiral robots? And the "faceless" corporations they're using to take over gaming?), pissed off the Anti-Spirals to no end, so they directed their hate at those companies. Sega went down with their [[UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]], leaving the console market. Their niche was filled by Microsoft, a company even further divorced from "idealism" than Sony. It seemed like Nintendo, too would fall: the Gamecube was the bottom of its generation, and Anti-Spiral puppet corporation Sony was poised to enter the handheld market. It would supposedly destroy Nintendo there. All seemed dark, like the Spirals would fade from gaming altogether, until... '''[[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} ROW ROW]] [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS FIGHT THE POWAH!]]''' You want even more proof? [[http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html Go ahead, Ctrl+ F and search "Spiral".]] Nintendo's "User Satisfaction as King" business strategy is called a Spiral! The "[[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore]]" FPS gamers, who by now are ''de facto'' Anti-Spirals, are pissed at Nintendo's strategy of expanding the market to all for fear that it will cause the gaming Spiral Nemesis, destroying video gaming's special niche in the culture. Oh, and Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto is Simon.

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* Continuing from the above, the Anti-Spirals were responsible for the death of the Dreamcast. But during Sega's decline in [[TheNineties the mid-to-late 1990s]], and especially after they were out of the market, gaming took on a decidedly DarkerAndEdgier slant. First with VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto-style sandbox games set in [[CriminalProcedural crime-ridden cities]], then with [[RealIsBrown realistic]] {{First Person Shooter}}s where the player is not an individual hero but a single soldier who may or may not have any real effect on the outcome of the war, games are going [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism down to the cynical end of the scale]], very much fitting with the Anti-Spiral motive of creating cynicism and despair. Nintendo and Sega, makers of decidedly more idealistic games that gave gaming actual "faces" like [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] and [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]] (remember the ''faceless'' Anti-Spiral robots? And the "faceless" corporations they're using to take over gaming?), pissed off the Anti-Spirals to no end, so they directed their hate at those companies. Sega went down with their [[UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast [[Platform/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]], leaving the console market. Their niche was filled by Microsoft, a company even further divorced from "idealism" than Sony. It seemed like Nintendo, too would fall: the Gamecube was the bottom of its generation, and Anti-Spiral puppet corporation Sony was poised to enter the handheld market. It would supposedly destroy Nintendo there. All seemed dark, like the Spirals would fade from gaming altogether, until... '''[[UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} '''[[Platform/{{Wii}} ROW ROW]] [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS [[Platform/NintendoDS FIGHT THE POWAH!]]''' You want even more proof? [[http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html Go ahead, Ctrl+ F and search "Spiral".]] Nintendo's "User Satisfaction as King" business strategy is called a Spiral! The "[[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore]]" FPS gamers, who by now are ''de facto'' Anti-Spirals, are pissed at Nintendo's strategy of expanding the market to all for fear that it will cause the gaming Spiral Nemesis, destroying video gaming's special niche in the culture. Oh, and Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto is Simon.



Ok, so hear me out on this one. It’s already been fairly established the beginning of the first episode was basically an alternate future where Simons spiral power went out of control and caused the Spiral Nemesis. Well let’s take that a step further with the fact the Anti Spiral planet was basically sitting in its own little pocket dimension and looks suspiciously like Earth. Rossiu, being the WellIntentionedExtremist that he is, would certainly have gone the Anti-Spirals route to protect the Earth and also be willing to breach other Space/Time domains to prevent it from happening again. Additionally, consider the fact the Anti-Spirals treated the Spiral Nemesis as a known rather than just a logical theory. It would also make Nias “You don’t understand…” to which the Anti Spiral responds “Understanding is not required…” an Ironic echo to Rossius’ comment that Simon “Did not understand”. Also there almost seemed to be a personal touch to the way the Anti-Spiral targeted Simon, more than just the tactics of despair he seemed to need to prove to Simon Spiral energy would be the doom of everything. Which given his lack of Spiral Energy and distrust in it, ordering the Gunmen to be scrapped in favor of much more science driven Grapearls.

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Ok, so hear me out on this one. It’s already been fairly established the beginning of the first episode was basically an alternate future where Simons spiral power went out of control and caused the Spiral Nemesis. Well let’s take that a step further with the fact the Anti Spiral planet was basically sitting in its own little pocket dimension and looks suspiciously like Earth. Rossiu, being the WellIntentionedExtremist that he is, would certainly have gone the Anti-Spirals route to protect the Earth and also be willing to breach other Space/Time domains to prevent it from happening again. Additionally, consider the fact the Anti-Spirals treated the Spiral Nemesis as a known rather than just a logical theory. It would also make Nias “You don’t don’t understand…” to which the Anti Spiral responds “Understanding is not required…” an Ironic echo to Rossius’ comment that Simon “Did not understand”. Also there almost seemed to be a personal touch to the way the Anti-Spiral targeted Simon, more than just the tactics of despair he seemed to need to prove to Simon Spiral energy would be the doom of everything. Which given his lack of Spiral Energy and distrust in it, ordering the Gunmen to be scrapped in favor of much more science driven Grapearls.

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The Anti-Spirals became obsessed with population control, and used {{transhuman}}ism (artificial evolution facilitated by technology) to [[SterilityPlague sterilize themselves]] and force themselves into an AssimilationPlot as a clean and godlike TechnologicalSingularity because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans. However, they overdid their {{Well Intentioned Extremis|t}}m and became greedy, wanting the entire universe for themselves, perceiving their First-world Technological Singularity as perfect and cleaner than "those filthy proles stuck in their probability-children". Thus the MotiveDecay of their good-intentioned philosophy into pure [[ANaziByAnyOtherName eugenicist xenophobia]].

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The Anti-Spirals became obsessed with population control, and used {{transhuman}}ism (artificial evolution facilitated by technology) to [[SterilityPlague sterilize themselves]] and force themselves into an AssimilationPlot as a clean and godlike TechnologicalSingularity [[TheSingularity Singularity]] because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans. However, they overdid their {{Well Intentioned Extremis|t}}m and became greedy, wanting the entire universe for themselves, perceiving their First-world Technological Singularity as perfect and cleaner than "those filthy proles stuck in their probability-children". Thus the MotiveDecay of their good-intentioned philosophy into pure [[ANaziByAnyOtherName eugenicist xenophobia]].



It happened in a dream I had last night.

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It happened in a dream I had last night.night.

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* No, because tropers around the world, having [[HeroicSacrifice heroically sacrificed]] [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife their spare time and social life]] in the never-ending search of the ultimate Trope, are fully equipped to deal with [[JustForFun/TropeOverdosed tropes running wild]]. We shall show up [[BigDamnHeroes at the last second]], shout "[[CatchPhrase WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!?]]" as one, and fire off a [[ThisIsADrill drill-shaped galaxy-wide]] {{Kamehamehadoken}} made of [[ThePowerOfFriendship friendship]] and [[AllYourPowersCombined our combined knowledge of tropery]], [[SealedEvilInACan banishing them back to the Internet]] [[SequelHook until they arise once more]].

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* No, because tropers around the world, having [[HeroicSacrifice heroically sacrificed]] [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife their spare time and social life]] in the never-ending search of the ultimate Trope, are fully equipped to deal with [[JustForFun/TropeOverdosed tropes running wild]]. We shall show up [[BigDamnHeroes at the last second]], shout "[[CatchPhrase "[[CharacterCatchphrase WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!?]]" as one, and fire off a [[ThisIsADrill drill-shaped galaxy-wide]] {{Kamehamehadoken}} made of [[ThePowerOfFriendship friendship]] and [[AllYourPowersCombined our combined knowledge of tropery]], [[SealedEvilInACan banishing them back to the Internet]] [[SequelHook until they arise once more]].
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* However, not all of these MechanicalLifeforms seek the destruction of life. Some - some will come to protect the Spirals, and refused to ally with the Anti-Spirals. Most will come to destroy them. They were the dream - MechanicalLifeforms able to [[TransformingMecha transform]] their bodies into [[CoolCar ve]][[CoolPlane hi]][[TankGoodness cl]][[CoolStarship es]]; a last line of defense against the [[OmnicidalManiac all who oppose Spiral life]]! They are at war, heroic Autobot pitted against evil Decepticon, both on their homeworld of Cybertron and throughout the universe! They are the universe's last hope, they are - '''{{Transformers}}'''!

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* However, not all of these MechanicalLifeforms seek the destruction of life. Some - some will come to protect the Spirals, and refused to ally with the Anti-Spirals. Most will come to destroy them. They were the dream - MechanicalLifeforms able to [[TransformingMecha transform]] their bodies into [[CoolCar ve]][[CoolPlane hi]][[TankGoodness cl]][[CoolStarship es]]; a last line of defense against the [[OmnicidalManiac all who oppose Spiral life]]! They are at war, heroic Autobot pitted against evil Decepticon, both on their homeworld of Cybertron and throughout the universe! They are the universe's last hope, they are - '''{{Transformers}}'''!'''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'''!
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...Fighting the Spiral-Nemesis. With [[TransFormers Optimus Prime]] and [[WesternAnimation/MegasXLR Coop]] helping Gai out.

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...Fighting the Spiral-Nemesis. With [[TransFormers [[Franchise/TransFormers Optimus Prime]] and [[WesternAnimation/MegasXLR Coop]] helping Gai out.
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Imagine if our universe ran on the RuleOfCool. Considering all the fiction we have, if we did run on RuleOfCool we'd have the knowledge and power [[MultiversalConqueror to dominate the whole of creation.]] We will become TheOmnipotent. The reason we live in such a boring world is because our awesomeness is being diverted to prevent something like this from happening, [[GodIsEvil lest we abuse our power]] (like how LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya needs to be kept ignorant of her Omnipotent powers [[JerkAssGods considering her behaviour]]). The Gurren Lagann universe and all its variants were designed to handle our awesomeness. The Anti-Spirals are secretly being led by the individuals who did this, because if the Spiral Nemesis occurs all the RuleOfCool would flow back to us and we'd gain the power to take over existence

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Imagine if our universe ran on the RuleOfCool. Considering all the fiction we have, if we did run on RuleOfCool we'd have the knowledge and power [[MultiversalConqueror to dominate the whole of creation.]] We will become TheOmnipotent. The reason we live in such a boring world is because our awesomeness is being diverted to prevent something like this from happening, [[GodIsEvil lest we abuse our power]] (like how LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya needs to be kept ignorant of her Omnipotent powers [[JerkAssGods considering her behaviour]]). The Gurren Lagann universe and all its variants were designed to handle our awesomeness. The Anti-Spirals are secretly being led by the individuals who did this, because if the Spiral Nemesis occurs all the RuleOfCool would flow back to us and we'd gain the power to take over existence
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*** Do you seriously think one would actually put whatever it is [[WhatAnIdiot here on WMG and destroy the universe in the process?]] Okay, so the world doesn't work on Spiral Energy, but you catch my drift. Also, what if such an event is beyond human understanding?

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*** Do you seriously think one would actually put whatever it is [[WhatAnIdiot here on WMG and destroy the universe in the process?]] process? Okay, so the world doesn't work on Spiral Energy, but you catch my drift. Also, what if such an event is beyond human understanding?
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* With the conflict in Libya, this would make Row Row Fight The Power either a FunnyAneurysmMoment or HilariousInHindsight.

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* With the conflict in Libya, this would make Row Row Fight The Power either a FunnyAneurysmMoment HarsherInHindsight or HilariousInHindsight.
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Think about it. If the Anti-Spirals are really out to protect the universe from the Spiral Nemesis, why are they so bent on the ultimate extermination of all Spirals? Why are they so bent on torturing others to despair and death? Why have they become [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Those Who Fight Monsters]]? If they kill off all the Spirals, they'll be the only ones left. Also, Notice how they have absolutely no proof about Spiral Nemesis or that Spiral Power is dangerous, and if they're really cosmic entities then they should realize that in scientific measurements the universe is infinite and expanding (Dark Energy), the universe will always have room for more Spiral Power and if that's not enough, they can spread it onto the black seas of infinity outside the universe. They're using the Spiral Nemesis as an excuse; they simply want to KillEmAll because they're [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Racists]]. They're [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity deranged]] [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrites]] who latched on to an unproven theory, not to protect the universe, but solely because they have no desire beyond [[OmnicidalManiac killing every last "inferior" Spiral species]]. They're [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] who are merely trying to rationalize their cruelty and selfishness, merely because [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery they view every other lifeform as a disgusting disease]].

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Think about it. If the Anti-Spirals are really out to protect the universe from the Spiral Nemesis, why are they so bent on the ultimate extermination of all Spirals? Why are they so bent on torturing others to despair and death? Why have they become [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Those Who Fight Monsters]]? If they kill off all the Spirals, they'll be the only ones left. Also, Notice how they have absolutely no proof about Spiral Nemesis or that Spiral Power is dangerous, and if they're really cosmic entities then they should realize that in scientific measurements the universe is infinite and expanding (Dark Energy), the universe will always have room for more Spiral Power and if that's not enough, they can spread it onto the black seas of infinity outside the universe. They're using the Spiral Nemesis as an excuse; they simply want to KillEmAll kill them all because they're [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Racists]]. They're [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity deranged]] [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrites]] who latched on to an unproven theory, not to protect the universe, but solely because they have no desire beyond [[OmnicidalManiac killing every last "inferior" Spiral species]]. They're [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] who are merely trying to rationalize their cruelty and selfishness, merely because [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery they view every other lifeform as a disgusting disease]].
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** [[Machinima/RedVsBlue "He kept trying... he kept trying to get her right..."]]

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* One problem with this: Kamina is ChaoticGood, YHWH is ([[GodIsEvil probably]]) LawfulGood. Then again, Jesus isn't one to obey the rules...

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* One problem with this: Kamina is ChaoticGood, YHWH is ([[GodIsEvil probably]]) LawfulGood. Then again, Jesus isn't one to obey the rules...
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[[WMG: [[Wiki/TVTropes TV Troppa]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Gurren Lagann!!!]]]]
Think about it. EpilepticTrees run on Spiral Power. TV Tropes itself is a cyberspace version of Lagann, and tropes drill throughout fiction. As these tropes drill through fiction, it assimilates everything unto itself, informalizes them, and through the inspiring informality that is so unlike Wiki/TheOtherWiki, creates more Epileptic Trees in the process. In short, TV Tropes promotes Fanon-I mean turns normal fiction into Epileptic Tree generators. Eventually [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife these Epileptic Trees will reach critical mass]], [[BreakingTheFourthWall pierce the heavens, get in]] RealLife, and cause TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Or just turn the universe into ''Lost''.

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[[WMG: [[Wiki/TVTropes [[Website/TVTropes TV Troppa]] [[IncrediblyLamePun Gurren Lagann!!!]]]]
Think about it. EpilepticTrees run on Spiral Power. TV Tropes itself is a cyberspace version of Lagann, and tropes drill throughout fiction. As these tropes drill through fiction, it assimilates everything unto itself, informalizes them, and through the inspiring informality that is so unlike Wiki/TheOtherWiki, Website/TheOtherWiki, creates more Epileptic Trees in the process. In short, TV Tropes promotes Fanon-I mean turns normal fiction into Epileptic Tree generators. Eventually [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife these Epileptic Trees will reach critical mass]], [[BreakingTheFourthWall pierce the heavens, get in]] RealLife, and cause TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. Or just turn the universe into ''Lost''.
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* Also, Fast Eddie and the Admin are getting aware of the Spiral Nemesis that Wiki/ThisVeryWiki will induce. Hence why they are getting more rules-observant.

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* Also, Fast Eddie and the Admin are getting aware of the Spiral Nemesis that Wiki/ThisVeryWiki Website/ThisVeryWiki will induce. Hence why they are getting more rules-observant.
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* They would have had twins. [[UpToEleven One even hotter and wearing even less than Yoko and one even more manly and more hotblooded than Kamina, both having over 9000 times the badass of their parents. They would have been the Spiral Nemesis, but would be so badass it wouldn't happen.]]

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* They would have had twins. [[UpToEleven One even hotter and wearing even less than Yoko and one even more manly and more hotblooded than Kamina, both having over 9000 times the badass of their parents. They would have been the Spiral Nemesis, but would be so badass it wouldn't happen.]]
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