History WMG / Tangled

14th Jun '17 12:21:24 AM jormis29
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[[WMG: The Tangle-Verse is an alternate history of {{Exalted}}.]]

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[[WMG: The Tangle-Verse is an alternate history of {{Exalted}}.TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}.]]
8th Apr '17 6:05:32 PM nombretomado
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This exchange from ''TheRoadToElDorado'' takes on a whole new meaning now.

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This exchange from ''TheRoadToElDorado'' ''WesternAnimation/TheRoadToElDorado'' takes on a whole new meaning now.



** Well, he has done [[TheRoadToElDorado some work with Dreamworks...]]

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** Well, he has done [[TheRoadToElDorado [[WesternAnimation/TheRoadToElDorado some work with Dreamworks...]]
28th Mar '17 7:00:02 PM FT96
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28th Mar '17 6:24:41 PM FT96
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[[WMG:: Rapunzel and Flynn/Eugene will have twins]]

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[[WMG:: [[WMG: Rapunzel and Flynn/Eugene will have twins]]
20th Mar '17 5:14:45 AM Morgenthaler
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[[WMG: One of Rapunzel's descendants is [[PrincessAndTheFrog Mama Odie]].]]

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[[WMG: One of Rapunzel's descendants is [[PrincessAndTheFrog [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog Mama Odie]].]]



* WRONG! ThePrincessAndTheFrog happens in 1926, while Tangled takes place in the 1780's according to WordOfGod.

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* WRONG! ThePrincessAndTheFrog Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog happens in 1926, while Tangled takes place in the 1780's according to WordOfGod.
17th Mar '17 3:16:49 PM FT96
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In the original tail, Rapunzel and the prince have twins. They will have twins as well, fraternal twins.

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In the original tail, tale, Rapunzel and the prince have twins. They will have twins as well, fraternal twins.



Fitzherbert isn't the most Jewish name imaginable admittedly, but remember it's inherited maternally. And 'Eugene', well...

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Fitzherbert isn't the most Jewish name imaginable admittedly, but remember it's inherited maternally. And 'Eugene', well...well...

[[WMG: Gothel is a witch, her powers just are atypical.]]
Not all wizards in Disney have the same sort of magic, as some are more skilled in enchanted objects and potions. Gothel could certainly fit this with her lantern, cloak, and use of the magic flower. Also, just think about her being able to kidnap Rapunzel and hide her for so long--that sounds like magic was used.

[[WMG: On that, Flynn is a wizard.]]
He's far more durable than the average human, even when comparing him to the Beast. Flynn is also the one who sees Rapunzel's tower, and Gothel becomes afraid when she sees his portrait, and tries to have him killed. Could Gothel know about his magic? What if Rapunzel was right about destiny bringing Flynn to the tower? As in, Flynn's magical power would be needed to help him defeat Gothel if that situation arose, and Gothel knows that. After all, there are no magic-users in the film, which does raise a few questions. Flynn being a wizard might also explain his age difference with Rapunzel--teenage wizards have erratic magic, so Flynn's magic had to settle before he could go to the tower.
23rd Nov '16 2:20:57 AM LB7979
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** Well, you could tell whether [[spoiler: ''that'' hair is/was magical too by whether the carpet matched/s the curtains (blonde or brunette).]] [[{{Squick}} But let's just not go there for an animated character]].


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*** LOL no way, the flower only "'''heals what has been hurt''" and menstruation is the healthy norm for any woman at least between 16-45 years old. Only NOT menstruating at that age is a sign something's wrong physically and needs to be healed, and would activate the flower.
16th Nov '16 12:13:55 AM LB7979
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* The Evil Queen's real name is apparently Grimhilde... well, both names start with a G.
* Both Snow White and Rapunzel are considered to be taking place in Germany, so it fits nicely geographically
* Both movies end with her falling off a high place at the end - in Snow White from a cliff (which she survived according to this theory) and in Rapunzel from the tower (though she was already turning into dust at that time because of the broken spell).
* This would also hugely elevate the significance of the mirror being broken at the end.
* And how apples are a recurring theme in Tangled. Rapunzel has a basket of apples (no other fruit, just apples - that's the only fruit we see in the movie) in her tower and Mother Gothel ''almost'' takes a bite out of one. Even Maximus is only seen eating / has a thing for apples, while stereotypically horses' favorite food is always carrots. When Flynn's narrating how the story ends and says "and all the apples disappeared", this can even be taken as a metaphor for "and evil disappeared" - the apple being the main instrument of Grimhilde/Gothel's evilness in Snow White.



** This would also hugely elevate the significance of the mirror being broken at the end.
** And how apples are a recurring theme in Tangled. Rapunzel has a basket of apples (no other fruit, just apples - that's the only fruit we see in the movie) in her tower and Mother Gothel ''almost'' takes a bite out of one. Even Maximus is only seen eating / has a thing for apples, while stereotypically horses' favorite food is always carrots. When Flynn's narrating how the story ends and says "and all the apples disappeared", this can even be taken as a metaphor for "and evil disappeared" - the apple being the main instrument of Grimhilde/Gothel's evilness in Snow White.
** And in both movies, she falls off a high place at the end - in Snow White from a cliff, which she survived according to this theory, and in Rapunzel from the tower (though she was already turning into dust at that time because of the broken spell).
* The Evil Queen's real name is apparently Grimhilde... well, both names start with a G.

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** This would also hugely elevate the significance of the mirror being broken at the end.
** And how apples are a recurring theme in Tangled. Rapunzel has a basket of apples (no other fruit, just apples - that's the only fruit we see in the movie) in her tower and Mother Gothel ''almost'' takes a bite out of one. Even Maximus is only seen eating / has a thing for apples, while stereotypically horses' favorite food is always carrots. When Flynn's narrating how the story ends and says "and all the apples disappeared", this can even be taken as a metaphor for "and evil disappeared" - the apple being the main instrument of Grimhilde/Gothel's evilness in Snow White.
** And in both movies, she falls off a high place at the end - in Snow White from a cliff, which she survived according to this theory, and in Rapunzel from the tower (though she was already turning into dust at that time because of the broken spell).
* The Evil Queen's real name is apparently Grimhilde... well, both names start with a G.
15th Nov '16 12:12:40 AM LB7979
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** Also see Analysis/{{Tangled}} for further exploration of the Crown representing virginity.

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** Also see Analysis/{{Tangled}} [[Analysis/{{Tangled}} Tangled - Analysis]] for further exploration of the Crown representing virginity.
15th Nov '16 12:10:30 AM LB7979
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** Also see Analysis/{{Tangled}} for further exploration of the Crown representing virginity.

[[WMG: The crown represents virginity.]]
As [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything/AnimatedFilms discussed on another page]], the crown probably is supposed to be her virginity. In the campfire scene, take it with that context. Yeah. Mother Gothel tells her that Flynn is only after one thing and once he gets it, he will leave her. Rapunzel's hair can also be seen as a symbol of her virginity, having gotten its power from a magic flower. Thus, Flynn [[spoiler:"deflowered" her when he slashed her hair with a pointy object]]. It's even worse if you listen to the reprise of "Mother Knows Best" on the soundtrack. Without almost totally visual context, this is exactly what it sounds like. This is even worse when you think back to the original story.

Not to mention the scene where the Stabbington brothers encounter Rapunzel and try to capture her. The ominous atmosphere made it seem more like they were trying to rape her. This adds a even creepier factor to the Stabbington Brothers' "We want her" line. It's already pretty misinterpretable, but they want her 'magic hair', when they first wanted the 'crown'.



** And how apples are a recurring theme in Tangled. Rapunzel has a basket of apples (no other fruit, just apples - that's the only fruit we see in the movie) in her tower and Mother Gothel ''almost'' takes a bite out of one. Even Maximus is only seen eating / has a thing for apples, while stereotypically horses' favorite food is always carrots. When Flynn's narrating how the story ends and says "and all the apples disappeared", this can even be taken as a metaphor for "and evil disappeared" - the apple being the main instrument of Grimhilde/Gothel's evilness in Snow White.
** And in both movies, she falls off a high place at the end - in Snow White from a cliff, which she survived according to this theory, and in Rapunzel from the tower (though she was already turning into dust at that time because of the broken spell).



[[WMG: The crown represents virginity.]]
As [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything/AnimatedFilms discussed on another page]], the crown probably is supposed to be her virginity. In the campfire scene, take it with that context. Yeah. Mother Gothel tells her that Flynn is only after one thing and once he gets it, he will leave her. Rapunzel's hair can also be seen as a symbol of her virginity, having gotten its power from a magic flower. Thus, Flynn [[spoiler:"deflowered" her when he slashed her hair with a pointy object]]. It's even worse if you listen to the reprise of "Mother Knows Best" on the soundtrack. Without almost totally visual context, this is exactly what it sounds like. This is even worse when you think back to the original story.

Not to mention the scene where the Stabbington brothers encounter Rapunzel and try to capture her. The ominous atmosphere made it seem more like they were trying to rape her. This adds a even creepier factor to the Stabbington Brothers' "We want her" line. It's already pretty misinterpretable, but they want her 'magic hair', when they first wanted the 'crown'.
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