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14th Apr '16 7:25:58 AM BURGINABC
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[[WMG: The Snuggly Duckling patrons are mercenaries]]
I would have put this on the headscratchers page, but then I thought of an answer myself. I was wondering what they did for a living. There's not many professions that call for a bunch of heavily armed thugs, and the fact that they were initially willing to call the royal guards to their hideout to collect the bounty on Flynn Rider, strongly indicates against highway robbery or other criminal activity as their primary occupation, since in that case they themselves would be wanted criminals just the same as Flynn. The only thing I can think of that that leaves, is that they're some sort of mercenaries. Not sure exactly what sort of mercenary work they do, but it's the only thing that makes sense.
10th Apr '16 7:48:21 PM BURGINABC
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**** I thought he became mortal at the end of [[Disney/{{Hercules}} that movie]].
10th Apr '16 7:33:27 PM BURGINABC
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* This fits somewhat well with the observation that, according to traditional naming patterns, the affix "Fitz-" on his real last name marks him as an [[HeroicBastard illegitimate child]]. His father saw him as an embarrassment and refused to support him or be associated with him in any way, and his mother lacked the means to support him on her own, so he was dumped in an orphanage.
15th Nov '15 4:25:06 PM LittleZelina
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*** It could also be a cruel joke at his expense, as in, being illegitimate, hes the opposite of 'well-born'.

Which leads to the conclusion:
[[WMG:At least one of Flynn's parents isn't actually dead, they just rejected him]]
* It could be why he finds his own backstory so miserable he doesn't even want to bring it up for pathos: either...
** his mother isn't dead, but circumstances meant that she couldn't marry his father when she got pregnant, so she left him in an orphanage and disappeared in hope of avoiding the stigma of being an unmarried mother AND/OR
** His father is alive but wanted nothing to do with his mother once she got pregnant- either she was too far below him to consider marrying or he was already married anyway- either way the baby's existence was just embarrassing- if Flynn's mother did die his father still just wanted to erase his existance
*** which would explain why Flynn feels no compunction about stealing from the rich and powerful seeing as a rich powerful guy treated him so appallingly simply on grounds of status- Flynn feels like he owes the whole world nothing and those in power even less.
28th Oct '15 5:26:59 PM LittleZelina
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** Alternatively: the healing itself had a more profound effect on Flynn than just mending physical injuries.
***Sufficient emotional stress, especially in childhood, leaves literal damage on the brain that has a permanent effect on the subject's emotions and behavior. It's more or less confirmed that young Eugene had a horrible childhood in some way other other (whatever happened he's very resistant to talking about it, even to Rapunzel who he has probably realised has been emotionally abused herself even if she's not worked it out yet)- either he was very unhappy in the orphanage and/or the circumstances of his being there were distressing- and Flynn's fairly amoral, detached character early in the film could have been developed as a direct result of damage to how he functions emotionally and socially (being detached from social norms and from bonding with others.) Perhaps the fact that Rapunzel changed all that is down to the way her magic 'heals what has been hurt' on a deeper level than either of them realise- it might not take obvious effect straight away but it puts him right enough to be capable of feeling things that he just couldn't before.
22nd Oct '15 4:14:31 PM nombretomado
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On this note, further {{wmg}}ing is required, and thus I posit that Eugene's ''real'' father was one of the men who picked up the Flynn Rider persona. Using this persona, he seduced a woman, and she bore his son without telling him about it, instead placing the son in an orphanage, and donating a copy of a Flynn Rider book to said orphanage so her son would be able to read about "his" father when he grew up. Because it was 'his' book of sorts, Eugene grew up reading it, and when it was time to reinvent himself, he inadvertently named himself after his father[[note]]Or rather, his father's pseudonym, but hey, this is {{Disney}}[[/note]].

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On this note, further {{wmg}}ing is required, and thus I posit that Eugene's ''real'' father was one of the men who picked up the Flynn Rider persona. Using this persona, he seduced a woman, and she bore his son without telling him about it, instead placing the son in an orphanage, and donating a copy of a Flynn Rider book to said orphanage so her son would be able to read about "his" father when he grew up. Because it was 'his' book of sorts, Eugene grew up reading it, and when it was time to reinvent himself, he inadvertently named himself after his father[[note]]Or rather, his father's pseudonym, but hey, this is {{Disney}}[[/note]].
Creator/{{Disney}}[[/note]].
1st Sep '15 6:07:29 AM TheUnknownUploader
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26th Jul '15 11:59:36 PM Kirayoshi
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[[WMG: Maximus becomes the steed of one [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert.]]

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[[WMG: Maximus becomes the steed of one [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert.]]]]]]


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[[WMG: The Stabbington Brothers...]]
...Are the 11th and 12th sons of [[Disney/{{Frozen}} the King of the Southern Isles]]. Their younger brother is Hans. Realizing that they have little to no shot of taking the throne, they decided to strike out on their own as thieves and mercenaries.
14th Jun '15 7:05:24 PM TheUnknownUploader
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[[WMG: [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert]] is the reincarnation of Maximus.]]
Horses can handle choosing ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood better than humans can.

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[[WMG: Maximus becomes the steed of one [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert]] is the reincarnation of Maximus.Javert.]]
Horses can handle choosing ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood better than humans can.Tell me you don't want to see it happen. I dare ya.
14th Jun '15 7:01:58 PM TheUnknownUploader
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[[WMG: [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert]] is the reincarnation of Maximus.]]
Horses can handle choosing ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood better than humans can.
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