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* Supporting this are the MarioTennis and VideoGame/MarioGolf portable titles: There is a timeskip between the GBC and GBA games where most characters have noticeably aged, but Mario's group hasn't changed a day.
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* Supporting this are the MarioTennis VideoGame/MarioTennis and VideoGame/MarioGolf portable titles: There is a timeskip between the GBC and GBA games where most characters have noticeably aged, but Mario's group hasn't changed a day.
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They're black, humanoid creatures with blank eyes. [[http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/2/28/Enderman.png Look similar?]]
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They're black, humanoid creatures with blank eyes. [[http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/2/28/Enderman.png Look similar?]]similar?]]
[[WMG: Rosalina is dead]]
That's why Rosalina looks so young but is still able to survive the hundred year gap between visits to the Mushroom World. In the first game she says she always looks forward to passing by it, which indicates that she's survived enough time to pass it multiple times, making her multiple centuries old. And if Boos have taught us anything it shows that death isn't a permanent departure from the living. And it would explain her ability to float. Perhaps a diet consisting entirely of Star Bits can't sustain human life forever...
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That's why Rosalina looks so young but is still able to survive the hundred year gap between visits to the Mushroom World. In the first game she says she always looks forward to passing by it, which indicates that she's survived enough time to pass it multiple times, making her multiple centuries old. And if Boos have taught us anything it shows that death isn't a permanent departure from the living. And it would explain her ability to float. Perhaps a diet consisting entirely of Star Bits can't sustain human life forever...
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* Supporting this are the MarioTennis and VideoGame/MarioGolf portable titles: There is a timeskip between the GBC and GBA games where most characters have noticeably aged, but Mario's group hasn't changed a day.
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The reason the Craft is capitalized is because it would mess up the WMG title otherwise.
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Okay, this might be a little crazy, but think about it a bit. When you first meet Luigi, he says "I had to hustle to get up here" which means that e had a hard time. He has no mode of transportation with him. Very soon after, Lubba will mention "Your brother seems really proud of how high he can jump."
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Okay, this might be a little crazy, but think about it a bit. When you first meet Luigi, he says "I had to hustle to get up here" which means that e he had a hard time. He has no mode of transportation with him. Very soon after, Lubba will mention "Your brother seems really proud of how high he can jump."
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* Tengen Toppa Comet Observatory? FUCK. YES.YES.
[[WMG: The Hell Valley Sky Trees are [[MineCraft Endermen.]] ]]
They're black, humanoid creatures with blank eyes. [[http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/2/28/Enderman.png Look similar?]]
[[WMG: The Hell Valley Sky Trees are [[MineCraft Endermen.]] ]]
They're black, humanoid creatures with blank eyes. [[http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/2/28/Enderman.png Look similar?]]
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** [[SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels It wouldn't be the first time.]]
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Rosalina is really, really, really old, but kept looking youthful by her vast reserves of...Spiral Energy; she only appears to lack hot-bloodedness she's overpowered and slightly lazy (compare: [[OrcusOnHisThrone Lordgenome On His Throne]] and she'd rather let Mario do the work. The Lumas are living beings that regularly explode into galaxies, which is exactly what the Anti-Spiral stated would occur during the Spiral Nemesis, and Mario's Luma gives him the ability to attack by spinning. Finally, the top of Rosalina's Observatory [[ThisIsADrill spins like a drill when it flies]], and [[BadassBoast THEIRS IS THE DRILL]] [[BeyondTheImpossible THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!!]]
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Rosalina is really, really, really old, but kept looking youthful by her vast reserves of...Spiral Energy; she only appears to lack hot-bloodedness she's overpowered and slightly lazy (compare: [[OrcusOnHisThrone Lordgenome On His Throne]] and she'd rather let Mario do the work. The Lumas are living beings that regularly explode into galaxies, which is exactly what the Anti-Spiral stated would occur during the Spiral Nemesis, and Mario's Luma gives him the ability to attack by spinning. Finally, the top of Rosalina's Observatory [[ThisIsADrill spins like a drill when it flies]], and [[BadassBoast THEIRS IS THE DRILL]] [[BeyondTheImpossible THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!!]]HEAVENS!!]]
*Tengen Toppa Comet Observatory? FUCK. YES.
*Tengen Toppa Comet Observatory? FUCK. YES.
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And he/they are specifically observing Mario as a potential serious threat, given how he's shown repeated usage of Spiral Power abilities; increasing his body mass instantaneously (Super/Mega Mushrooms), altering his physical composition to give himself unnatural abilities (Fire Flowers, Ice Flowers, The Metal Cap), and at one point even being able to [[SuperPaperMario alter the dimensional orientation of space at will.]] Compare the two: [[http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/2/2/9/55229.jpg?v=1 Hell Valley Sky Trees]] and [[http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/14/55742.jpg The Anti-Spiral.]]
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And he/they are specifically observing Mario as a potential serious threat, given how he's shown repeated usage of Spiral Power abilities; increasing his body mass instantaneously (Super/Mega Mushrooms), altering his physical composition to give himself unnatural abilities (Fire Flowers, Ice Flowers, The Metal Cap), and at one point even being able to [[SuperPaperMario alter the dimensional orientation of space at will.]] Compare the two: [[http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/2/2/9/55229.jpg?v=1 Hell Valley Sky Trees]] and [[http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/14/55742.jpg The Anti-Spiral.]]]] Extrapolating from this:
[[WMG: Rosalina, and all her Lumas, are (or were) all [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Elite Spiral Warriors.]] ]]
Rosalina is really, really, really old, but kept looking youthful by her vast reserves of...Spiral Energy; she only appears to lack hot-bloodedness she's overpowered and slightly lazy (compare: [[OrcusOnHisThrone Lordgenome On His Throne]] and she'd rather let Mario do the work. The Lumas are living beings that regularly explode into galaxies, which is exactly what the Anti-Spiral stated would occur during the Spiral Nemesis, and Mario's Luma gives him the ability to attack by spinning. Finally, the top of Rosalina's Observatory [[ThisIsADrill spins like a drill when it flies]], and [[BadassBoast THEIRS IS THE DRILL]] [[BeyondTheImpossible THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!!]]
[[WMG: Rosalina, and all her Lumas, are (or were) all [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Elite Spiral Warriors.]] ]]
Rosalina is really, really, really old, but kept looking youthful by her vast reserves of...Spiral Energy; she only appears to lack hot-bloodedness she's overpowered and slightly lazy (compare: [[OrcusOnHisThrone Lordgenome On His Throne]] and she'd rather let Mario do the work. The Lumas are living beings that regularly explode into galaxies, which is exactly what the Anti-Spiral stated would occur during the Spiral Nemesis, and Mario's Luma gives him the ability to attack by spinning. Finally, the top of Rosalina's Observatory [[ThisIsADrill spins like a drill when it flies]], and [[BadassBoast THEIRS IS THE DRILL]] [[BeyondTheImpossible THAT CREATES THE HEAVENS!!]]
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[[WMG: The orange Luma that is controlled by player 2 is an [[GreenLantern Orange Lantern]]]]
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[[WMG: The orange Luma that is controlled by player 2 is an [[GreenLantern [[Comicbook/GreenLantern Orange Lantern]]]]
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[[WMG: The Hell Valley Sky Trees are [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann The Anti-Spiral.]] ]]
And he/they are specifically observing Mario as a potential serious threat, given how he's shown repeated usage of Spiral Power abilities; increasing his body mass instantaneously (Super/Mega Mushrooms), altering his physical composition to give himself unnatural abilities (Fire Flowers, Ice Flowers, The Metal Cap), and at one point even being able to [[SuperPaperMario alter the dimensional orientation of space at will.]] Compare the two: [[http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/2/2/9/55229.jpg?v=1 Hell Valley Sky Trees]] and [[http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/14/55742.jpg The Anti-Spiral.]]
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[[WMG: Rosalina, a [[MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime disguised shroob princess]]]]
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The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of ''Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time'']] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). So perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of ''Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time'']] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). So perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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Someone had gone to the TBG before Mario and painted a picture of it. By leaping through the canvas in ''SuperMario64'', he was ''literally transported'' there, one of the few stages in the game that conspiciously are just a landmass floating in the middle of nowhere; that's why the pink Bob-Omb recognized him. Alternately, he was just in some sort of "painting world" separate from reality, explaining why the Whomp King says the same thing, line-by-line, in both games; the real [=McCoy=] hadn't met Mario yet.
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Someone had gone to the TBG before Mario and painted a picture of it. By leaping through the canvas in ''SuperMario64'', ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', he was ''literally transported'' there, one of the few stages in the game that conspiciously are just a landmass floating in the middle of nowhere; that's why the pink Bob-Omb recognized him. Alternately, he was just in some sort of "painting world" separate from reality, explaining why the Whomp King says the same thing, line-by-line, in both games; the real [=McCoy=] hadn't met Mario yet.
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[[WMG: Rosalina, a [[MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime disguised shroob princess?]]]]
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[[WMG: The infinite flutter jump 'glitch' was put in on purpose.]]
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* Well, most of the main characters are "Star Children", and how many crazy prophecies have Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser gotten themselves into that involved ultimate power, that they've each touched at least one of the artifacts, Bowser and Luigi even using them on themselves?
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* Well, most of the main characters are "Star Children", and how many crazy prophecies have Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser gotten themselves into that involved ultimate power, that they've each touched at least one of the artifacts, Bowser and Luigi even using them on themselves?
themselves? Actually, come to think of it, it seems that Rosalina is immortal, or at last VERY slow aging, from simply being near power stars... Mario and co. have power stars permanently inside themselves.
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* Well, most of the main characters are "Star Children", and how many crazy prophecies have Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser gotten themselves into that involved ultimate power, that they've each touched at least one of the artifacts, Bowser and Luigi even using them on themselves?
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[[WMG: How Luigi got up there.]]
Okay, this might be a little crazy, but think about it a bit. When you first meet Luigi, he says "I had to hustle to get up here" which means that e had a hard time. He has no mode of transportation with him. Very soon after, Lubba will mention "Your brother seems really proud of how high he can jump."
... You know what I'm thinking, don't you? That Luigi got there by jumping from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy from the Mushroom Planet. It seems ridiculous, but Luigi has revealed on a few occasions that he jumps even higher than he normally shows, once even jumping high enough that a ton of dust is kicked from the ground and sucked after him because of the low air resistance.
Okay, this might be a little crazy, but think about it a bit. When you first meet Luigi, he says "I had to hustle to get up here" which means that e had a hard time. He has no mode of transportation with him. Very soon after, Lubba will mention "Your brother seems really proud of how high he can jump."
... You know what I'm thinking, don't you? That Luigi got there by jumping from planet to planet, galaxy to galaxy from the Mushroom Planet. It seems ridiculous, but Luigi has revealed on a few occasions that he jumps even higher than he normally shows, once even jumping high enough that a ton of dust is kicked from the ground and sucked after him because of the low air resistance.
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[[WMG: The Green Stars were added very late in development as a way to [[FakeLongevity easily double the length of the game]].]]
Most of the Green Stars seem to be poorly and haphazardly placed, as if they all had to be shoved in at the last minute to make a deadline.
Perhaps the original plan was to do the following:
* Enable World S after the game has been beaten once (except Grandmaster Galaxy).
* Enable 'Super Luigi Galaxy 2' mode once all 120 stars are obtained. Unlike the first game, there is no second Luigi present in the levels in this mode.
* Getting all 120 stars with Luigi unlocks Grandmaster Galaxy for both Mario and Luigi. As in the first game, getting the final two stars with each gives a special picture on the Wii Message Board.
Instead of this, however, Nintendo chose to unlock Luigi as a playable character upon beating the game once, and added the 120 Green Stars which need to be collected to unlock Grandmaster Galaxy.
Most of the Green Stars seem to be poorly and haphazardly placed, as if they all had to be shoved in at the last minute to make a deadline.
Perhaps the original plan was to do the following:
* Enable World S after the game has been beaten once (except Grandmaster Galaxy).
* Enable 'Super Luigi Galaxy 2' mode once all 120 stars are obtained. Unlike the first game, there is no second Luigi present in the levels in this mode.
* Getting all 120 stars with Luigi unlocks Grandmaster Galaxy for both Mario and Luigi. As in the first game, getting the final two stars with each gives a special picture on the Wii Message Board.
Instead of this, however, Nintendo chose to unlock Luigi as a playable character upon beating the game once, and added the 120 Green Stars which need to be collected to unlock Grandmaster Galaxy.
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[[WMG: The Green Stars were added very late in development as a way to [[FakeLongevity easily double the length of the game]].]]
Most of the Green Stars seem to be poorly and haphazardly placed, as if they all had to be shoved in at the last minute to make a deadline.
Perhaps the original plan was to do the following:
* Enable World S after the game has been beaten once (except Grandmaster Galaxy).
* Enable 'Super Luigi Galaxy 2' mode once all 120 stars are obtained. Unlike the first game, there is no second Luigi present in the levels in this mode.
* Getting all 120 stars with Luigi unlocks Grandmaster Galaxy for both Mario and Luigi. As in the first game, getting the final two stars with each gives a special picture on the Wii Message Board.
Instead of this, however, Nintendo chose to unlock Luigi as a playable character upon beating the game once, and added the 120 Green Stars which need to be collected to unlock Grandmaster Galaxy.
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* Or the Mushroom Planet just has really short years. You know, that would explain a lot of the geography to an extent.
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** When you unlock Luigi in Super Mario Galaxy 2, he knows how to spin, and is much braver than the first game, suggesting the alternate continuity theory above.
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Or they're just very long-lived and age slowly, since Rosalina seems to have come from the same world as well and is at least several centuries old. All of Mario's adventures / Bowser's plots might have taken place over the course of hundreds, or even thousands of years, with many years in-between each one.
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[[WMG: Mario and co are immortal, and Galaxy 2 is simply 100 years after the first.]]
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The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). So perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario ''Mario and luigi partners Luigi: Partners in time]] Time'']] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). So perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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** If I understand correctly, The Luigi you play as in the first game is actually from the timeline after finishing the first game as Mario? this makes for some FridgeBrilliance. Plus explaining why you don't do the Star Festival part as Luigi. The developers of the game didn't want to spoil Mario suddenly "disappearing" as he goes over to the other timeline!
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** If I understand correctly, The Luigi you play as in the first game is actually from the timeline after finishing the first game as Mario? this This makes for some FridgeBrilliance. Plus explaining why you don't do the Star Festival part as Luigi. The developers of the game didn't want to spoil Mario suddenly "disappearing" as he goes over to the other timeline!
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The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). Perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). Perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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[[WMG: I really don't know what conclusion to make here but..]]
Rosalina, a disguised shroob princess?]]
The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game).Perhaps So perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game).
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[[WMG: I really don't know what conclusion to make here but..]]
The first notes in the [[spoiler:final boss music of mario and luigi partners in time]] shares the melody of the first few notes in the Storybook song (from the ''[[SuperMarioGalaxy 1st]]'' game, but also appears in this game). Perhaps Rosalina is really [[spoiler:another shroob princess?]]
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To expand on the above theory, the two games are part of a ''Zelda''-esque Split Timeline. The GainaxEnding of Timeline A (''Galaxy'') sent Mario back in time to just before the Star Festival, which is where the continuity branched off into Timeline B (''Galaxy 2''). However, doing so [[RetGone removed Mario from Timeline A]][[hottip:*:A literal CosmicRetcon?]], thus preventing him from defeating Bowser-- to prevent a TemporalParadox, someone was sent to do it for him: a clone of Luigi with Mario's personality. He was also sent back in time, but instead to a point early on in Timeline A, taking Mario's place (while keeping the previous Luigi where he was, which accounts for the two of them). While Luigi was (re-)collecting the Timeline A Stars, Mario went on his merry way, collecting all of the Timeline B Stars (and encountering Luigi-B and Toad Brigade-B, among others). The first game's Grand Finale Galaxy is the result of the timeline being fused back together.
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To expand on the above theory, the two games are part of a ''Zelda''-esque Split Timeline. The GainaxEnding of Timeline A (''Galaxy'') sent Mario back in time to just before the Star Festival, which is where the continuity branched off into Timeline B (''Galaxy 2''). However, doing so [[RetGone removed Mario from Timeline A]][[hottip:*:A literal CosmicRetcon?]], thus preventing him from defeating Bowser-- to prevent a TemporalParadox, someone was sent to do it for him: a clone of Luigi with Mario's personality.Luigi. He was also sent back in time, but instead to a point early on in Timeline A, taking Mario's place (while keeping the previous Luigi where he was, which accounts for the two of them). While Luigi was (re-)collecting the Timeline A Stars, Mario went on his merry way, collecting all of the Timeline B Stars (and encountering Luigi-B and Toad Brigade-B, among others). The first game's Grand Finale Galaxy is the result of the timeline being fused back together.
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To expand on the above theory, the two games are part of a ''Zelda''-esque Split Timeline. The GainaxEnding of Timeline A (''Galaxy'') sent Mario back in time to just before the Star Festival, which is where the continuity branched off into Timeline B (''Galaxy 2''). However, doing so [[RetGone removed Mario from Timeline A]][[hottip:*:A literal CosmicRetcon?]], thus preventing him from defeating Bowser-- to prevent a TemporalParadox, someone was sent to do it for him: Luigi. He was also sent back in time, but instead to a point early on in Timeline A, taking Mario's place (while keeping the previous Luigi where he was, which accounts for the two of them). While Luigi was (re-)collecting the Timeline A Stars, Mario went on his merry way, collecting all of the Timeline B Stars (and encountering Luigi-B and Toad Brigade-B, among others). The first game's Grand Finale Galaxy is the result of the timeline being fused back together.
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To expand on the above theory, the two games are part of a ''Zelda''-esque Split Timeline. The GainaxEnding of Timeline A (''Galaxy'') sent Mario back in time to just before the Star Festival, which is where the continuity branched off into Timeline B (''Galaxy 2''). However, doing so [[RetGone removed Mario from Timeline A]][[hottip:*:A literal CosmicRetcon?]], thus preventing him from defeating Bowser-- to prevent a TemporalParadox, someone was sent to do it for him: Luigi.a clone of Luigi with Mario's personality. He was also sent back in time, but instead to a point early on in Timeline A, taking Mario's place (while keeping the previous Luigi where he was, which accounts for the two of them). While Luigi was (re-)collecting the Timeline A Stars, Mario went on his merry way, collecting all of the Timeline B Stars (and encountering Luigi-B and Toad Brigade-B, among others). The first game's Grand Finale Galaxy is the result of the timeline being fused back together.
