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Let's now see if the [[StarWars Jedi]] could see Darth Vader coming. Let's put early-[[RevengeOfTheSith RotS]] Anakin Skywalker through this test.

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* Idealism of the story: The middle of the scale. You're on the more morally questionable side of the war, and are forced to take place in war crimes and conquer an innocent nation, but in the end the good guys win out and the bad guys end up dead. Call it a 3.

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* Idealism of the story: The middle of the scale. You're on the more morally questionable side of the war, Both sides have their good points and are forced to take place in war crimes bad points, and conquer an either main path ends with a lot of innocent nation, people and some of your loved ones dead, but in the end the good guys win out and the bad guys end up dead. Call it a 3.
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Let's do ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. How likely was it that [[spoiler:Takumi]] was going to succumb to his DemonicPossession and become a FallenHero?

* Species: Human: 3.
* Gender: Male: 4.
* Age: All evidence indicates he is likely in his late teens, so Teenager: 4.
* Role: [[spoiler:The second in line for the Hoshidan throne]] would almost certainly qualify as TheLancer: 5.
* Aesthetics: {{Bishonen}}, and official art shows he is rather ripped under his rather concealing outfit. 1.
* Motivation: Love and loyalty for his siblings and kingdom. 2.
* Characterization: With his mood swings and distrust/hatred of the Avatar, ByronicHero is perhaps the best fit for him. 2.
* Contentness: In ''Birthright'', he's a bit surly and distrustful, but he has his friends and family with him, so let's give him a 3. In ''Conquest'', he's rather angry about the Avatar's betrayal and his kingdom getting its ass kicked in a war. 5.
* Morality of the story: For the most part, GreyAndGrayMorality; the GreaterScopeVillain doesn't directly enter the plot outside ''Revelation''. 4.
* Idealism of the story: The middle of the scale. You're on the more morally questionable side of the war, and are forced to take place in war crimes and conquer an innocent nation, but in the end the good guys win out and the bad guys end up dead. Call it a 3.
* Average: 31/10 = 3.1 for ''Birthright'', 33/10 = 3.3 for ''Conquest''. [[spoiler:Takumi]] was on a razor's edge the whole way through, and it's really your influence that determines whether he comes back from the brink (''Birthright'') or goes over the edge (''Conquest'').
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For Marvel Cinematic Universe folks who've seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': we maybe weren't expecting to see Loki pull a HeelFaceTurn. Or has he? Is he actually planning to stay on Team Good Guy? What's in his future - becoming TheAtoner, RedemptionEqualsDeath, just plain being a RetiredMonster, or... screwing over the heroes yet again?

* Species: Frost Giant (Inhuman), but shape-shifted into a human-looking default form unless exposed to extreme cold. Ummm... average that to a 2.
* Gender: Male. 2. (In the comics he's genderfluid but defaults to male, but that's a different continuity so we'll leave that aside.)
* Age: Youngish adult in appearance at least, though he's ReallySevenHundredYearsOld. Call it a 4.
* Role: ExBigBad. May or may not still be TheDragon to the GreaterScopeVillain. I guess that's a 4 if he's TheDragon?
* Aesthetics: EvilIsSexy, EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette flavor. (Thor calling him "greasy and weaselly" notwithstanding.) 4.
* Motivation: Started as a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, developed into more of an InferioritySuperiorityComplex. So - both hubris/worldview AND anger and despair. A solid 3.
* Characterization: Rather inconsistent between movies, DependingOnTheWriter - sometimes he's an AntiVillain (Thor: The Dark World) and sometimes he's AxCrazy (The Avengers). He's calmed down a lot, but he still definitely has ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and is pretty strange and erratic. 2.
* Contentness: Used to be obviously miserable and taking out said misery on everyone around him, but appears to have undergone some CharacterDevelopment and become a fair bit cheerier. Let's say 3.
* Morality of the story: Mostly BlackAndGrayMorality - Hela is REALLY bad, but most of the good guys aside from Thor are... highly questionable at best. 1.
* Idealism of the story: The MCU is fairly idealistic. 4.
* Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Higher than you'd expect for a dude who [[EarthShatteringKaboom tried to blow up a planet]] and then tried to TakeOverTheWorld. Considering that the GreaterScopeVillain's spaceship showed up at the end of the movie and said villain would ''not'' be pleased if Loki betrays him - and that Thor's steering the ship back to Earth, where no doubt everyone would also be out for Loki's blood - sticking with Thor does not look like a very attractive option from Loki's perspective. But then, [[ChangedMyMindKid he did go with the gladiator slaves to fight Hela and rescue the Asgardians]] when he could easily have just decided ScrewThisImOuttaHere and flown their spaceship elsewhere. Who the hell knows?

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Now, can he ever redeem himself
* Species: He's now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: The BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him - 2
* Motivation for doing evil: He's a CompleteMonster - 1
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans - 2
* Contentness: He's doing well - 2
* Morality of the Story: BlackAndGrayMorality - 1
* Idealism: Fucking ''1''.
** Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn't going to be redeemed at all. He's frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.



* Motivation: CompleteMonster - 1
* Characterization: He's batshit insane - 2

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* Age: Teenager - 5

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* Age: Teenager Teenager, though he does become a young adult following a timeskip - 54



* Motivation: Between NietzscheWannabe and WellIntentionedExtremist - 3.5
* Characterization: EvenEvilHasStandards - 4

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* Motivation: Between NietzscheWannabe and WellIntentionedExtremist AmbitionIsEvil - 3.5
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Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55 Hmmmmm, this score is just slightly to the evil side of having an even chance of either staying the villain or attempting to redeem himself. In the end, Light's own conviction that he's ''already'' good diminishes his chances.

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Average: 25.5/10 20/10 = 2.55 Hmmmmm, this score is just slightly to the evil side of having an even chance of either staying the villain or attempting to redeem himself. 2 In the end, Light's own conviction that he's ''already'' good diminishes his chances.



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* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Child - 1
* Role: Freelancer - 4
* Aesthetics: Cute-looking - 1
* Characterization: Carl is starting to play with some dangerous stuff - 4
* Contentness: Well, what happens when you have a ''very'' evil abusive father - 4
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 3
* Idealism: - 4.5
Average: 28.5/9 = 3.17. Guess it was likely enough for Carl to start turning towards the dark side.

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* Species: Human - 3
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* Age: Teenagers - 5

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* Age: Teenagers Young Adult - 54



Average: 36.5/10: 3.65. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]

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Average: 36.35.5/10: 3.65.55. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]



* Age: Teenagers - 4

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Average: 28.5/10 (2.9) vs 31/10 (3.1). That bad, huh? Terumi sure knows his stuff when corrupting the fairer sex.

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Average: 28.29.5/10 (2.9) vs 31/10 (3.1).95). That bad, huh? Terumi sure knows his stuff when corrupting the fairer sex.



* Age: Young Adult. 4.

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* Age: Young Adult. 4.She's chronologically a child. 1.



* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 5.
Average: 26.5/10 = 2.65.... Come on, she's out of Mu-12 phase! Why is it slightly above average!? I guess everyone needs to be careful. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]

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* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 4.5.
Average: 26.5/10 23/10 = 2.65....3.... Come on, she's out of Mu-12 phase! Why is it slightly above average!? I guess everyone needs to be careful. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]



* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 5.
Average: 25/10 = 2.5. Actually below average. But very little below average so perhaps Makoto can't just relax despite the score. There's always the chance of [[KnightTemplar taking 'protecting friends' too far]] if her comment to Tager is any indication... [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]

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* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 4.5.
Average: 25/10 24.5/10 = 2.5.45. Actually below average. But very little below average so perhaps Makoto can't just relax despite the score. There's always the chance of [[KnightTemplar taking 'protecting friends' too far]] if her comment to Tager is any indication... [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]



* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 1.

Result: 30/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depended if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.

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* Idealism/Cynicism: CYNICAL. 1.

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Result: 30/10.30.5/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depended if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.



* Contentness: You know that if you have a guy who's killing NOL people without hesitation, you know that life in the series suck horrible - 4

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* Contentness: You know that if you have a guy who's killing NOL people without hesitation, you know that life in the series suck sucks horrible - 4



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 34/9 (3.8). The likely? Looks like you got to be careful should you encounter Terumi again given his chances of succeeding at corrupting people into his side. [[spoiler:Turns out it wasn't Terumi he should've been worried about...]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: 34/9 33.5/9 (3.8). The 72). That likely? Looks like you got to be careful should you encounter Terumi again given his chances of succeeding at corrupting people into his side. [[spoiler:Turns out it wasn't Terumi he should've been worried about...]]



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 36/10 (3.6). Looks like you're just as likely to go heel as Ragna. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: 36/10 35.5/10 (3.6). Looks like 55). Seems you have a better chance at remaining face than Ragna but you're just as still likely to go heel as Ragna.heel. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]



* Species: Cyborg - 5

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 31/10 (3.1). Out of all the three, Hakumen has a better chance of remaining face. Still he has to be careful because he might end up going HeWhoFightsMonsters. Luckily though he managed to kill Terumi for good without becoming corrupted by his influence. [[spoiler:His observational limit is approaching, so it appears he won't go heel in the time he has left.]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: 31/10 30.5/10 (3.1).05). Out of all the three, Hakumen has a better chance of remaining face. Still he has to be careful because he might end up going HeWhoFightsMonsters. Luckily though he managed to kill Terumi for good without becoming corrupted by his influence. [[spoiler:His observational limit is approaching, so it appears he won't go heel in the time he has left.]]



Average: 24/10: 2.4. So Hercule must have been very necessary for Buu to go Face.

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Average: 24/10: 2.4. So Hercule must have been very necessary for Fat Buu to go Face.
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* Idealism: - 4.5

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* Idealism: Idealism: - 4.5
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' isn't very much BlackAndGrayMorality, even if the 'Good' is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Hazama and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
* Idealism: Hazama has seems to always outwit the good guys in the way. BB world is VERY cynical. - 1
Average: 36/9 (without contentness consensus), or 40/10 (with current contentness consensus): 4. Actually very high chance. But this is ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we're talking about. With people like Hazama around, he can change the chance. [[spoiler:She has her work cut out for her, but Hazama ain't around to fuck it up. At the very least, while not exactly babyface again she's at least no longer Heel-ish, and right now hangs around with an improved, more humane Carl (thanks to her) who had a depressed Relius on his leash. So... success, somehow.]]

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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' isn't very much BlackAndGrayMorality, even if the 'Good' is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Hazama Izanami, Yuuki Terumi and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
* Idealism: Hazama has seems to always outwit Even with the good guys in villains finally defeated, it took until ''Central Fiction'' to finally change things for the way. BB world is VERY cynical. better. - 1
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Average: 36/9 36.5/9 (without contentness consensus), or 40/10 40.5/10 (with current contentness consensus): 4.05. Actually very high chance. But this is ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we're talking about. With people like Hazama Terumi around, he can change the chance. [[spoiler:She has her work cut out for her, but Hazama Terumi ain't around to fuck it up. At the very least, while not exactly babyface again she's at least no longer Heel-ish, and right now hangs around with an improved, more humane Carl (thanks to her) who had a depressed Relius on his leash. So... success, somehow.]]



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 33/10: 3.3. Never thought it was this high. No wonder Hazama succeeded, not by a lucky shot.

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: 33/10: 31.5/10: 3.3.15. Never thought it was this high. No wonder Hazama Terumi succeeded, not by a lucky shot.



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 36/10: 3.6. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
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Average: 36/10: 36.5/10: 3.6.65. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]



* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil or BlackAndGrayMorality. - 3 or 5
* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 29/10 (2.9) vs 31/10 (3.1). That bad, huh? Hazama sure knows his stuff when corrupting the fairer sex.

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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil or BlackAndGrayMorality. - 3 or 5
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* Idealism: CYNICAL Idealism: - 4.5
Average: 29/10 28.5/10 (2.9) vs 31/10 (3.1). That bad, huh? Hazama Terumi sure knows his stuff when corrupting the fairer sex.



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 1.7/10: 1.7

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Average: 1.7/10: 75/10: 1.7
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* Species: Look human enough, but rumors say that he existed long ago and became like Terumi - 1

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* Species: Look human enough, but rumors say that he existed long ago and became like Terumi - 11.5



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
Average: 21/10: 2.1

[[spoiler:As of ''Chronophantasma'', Carl is making Relius ''earn'' his DeathEqualsRedemption. Hazama, however, can piss off and stay dead.]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 1
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Average: 21/10: 22/10: 2.1

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Relius ''earn'' his DeathEqualsRedemption. Hazama, however, can piss off and stay still around by the end of ''Central Fiction'', it's only a matter of time before he reappears again. Perhaps a DeathEqualsRedemption could be the best outcome for him. Terumi, on the other hand, is completely dead.]]



* Aesthetics: One of the sources of ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' Loli of awesome. - 1

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* Aesthetics: One of the sources of ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' Loli of awesome. She's got red eyes. - 15



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3. Surprisingly fifty-fifty, a bit closer to Litchi, but less so. But the chance is still there, you may as well try to keep your eye on her, Ragna and Hakumen. So as of ''Chronophantasma'' [[spoiler:due to Ragna's fate, while on the 'good guys' side, Rachel is very on board of 'Ragna must be killed if we want to save this world'. So... uh...?]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: 27/9 = 3. 38. Surprisingly fifty-fifty, above 50%, a bit closer to Litchi, but less so. But the chance is still there, you may as well try to keep your eye on her, Ragna and Hakumen. So as of ''Chronophantasma'' [[spoiler:due to Ragna's fate, while on the 'good guys' side, Rachel is very on board of 'Ragna must be killed if we want to save this world'. So... uh...?]]



* Contentness: Life does suck when your opposition is a {{Troll}} who reads your movement, taunts you like hell and back and you seem to want to claim his head but other people tried to do the same. 4

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* Contentness: Life does suck when your opposition is a {{Troll}} who reads your movement, taunts you like hell and back and you seem to want to claim his head but other people tried to do the same. - 4



* Idealism: CYNICAL - 5
Average: Worst case 32/9: 3.56, best case 31/9: 3.44. Above average and is dangerously skirting the line. Ragna better try to appease her or else she will turn the whole Sector Seven against him. [[spoiler:Everyone else has the burden now that Ragna's been forcibly conscripted.]]

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* Idealism: CYNICAL - 4.5
Average: Worst case 32/9: 31.5/9: 3.56, 5, best case 31/9: 3.44.05/9: 3.38. Above average and is dangerously skirting the line. Ragna better try to appease her or else she will turn the whole Sector Seven against him. [[spoiler:Everyone else has the burden now that Ragna's been forcibly conscripted.]]



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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn't have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?

For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:

* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn't apply
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century, 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly, 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren't part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]], 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.

Now on to Stalin:

* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Began his rule while middle-aged, but lived long enough to be considered old, so this averages out to 2
* Role: We're comparing him to Hitler, so only his role during the war will be counted. He was technically on the same side as the Allies for that one; we can consider him an Opportunist, 2
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in power, 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but power]], 2
* Characterization: LawfulEvil, 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it didn't really affect him. Let's go with neutral, 3
* Morality of the story: See above, 4
* Idealism of the story: See above, N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.

Despite all that, let the argument rest that Hitler was more evil than Stalin.

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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn't have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?

For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:

* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn't apply
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century, 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly, 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren't part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]], 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.

Now on to Stalin:

* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Began his rule while middle-aged, but lived long enough to be considered old, so this averages out to 2
* Role: We're comparing him to Hitler, so only his role during the war will be counted. He was technically on the same side as the Allies for that one; we can consider him an Opportunist, 2
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in power, 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but power]], 2
* Characterization: LawfulEvil, 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it didn't really affect him. Let's go with neutral, 3
* Morality of the story: See above, 4
* Idealism of the story: See above, N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.

Despite all that, let the argument rest that Hitler was more evil than Stalin.



* Average: 32.5/10 = 3.25. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.

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* Average: 32.5/10 = 3.25. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.unsullied.
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn't have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?

For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:

* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn't apply
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century, 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly, 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren't part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]], 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.

Now on to Stalin:

* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Began his rule while middle-aged, but lived long enough to be considered old, so this averages out to 2
* Role: We're comparing him to Hitler, so only his role during the war will be counted. He was technically on the same side as the Allies for that one; we can consider him an Opportunist, 2
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in power, 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but power]], 2
* Characterization: LawfulEvil, 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it didn't really affect him. Let's go with neutral, 3
* Morality of the story: See above, 4
* Idealism of the story: See above, N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.

Despite all that, let the argument rest that Hitler was more evil than Stalin.
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* Species: As Terumi he's actually a ghost, looking quite like EldritchAbomination - 1

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* Species: As Terumi he's His true form is actually a ghost, looking quite like EldritchAbomination - 1



* Motivation: He's a frigging CompleteMonster who does evil things for lulz. - 1

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* Motivation: He's a frigging CompleteMonster monster who does evil things for lulz. - 1



* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a CompleteMonster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5

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* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a CompleteMonster, monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5



* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are fictitious {{Complete Monster}}s with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.

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* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are fictitious {{Complete Monster}}s villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.
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* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started WorldWarTwo when he turned fifty, 3

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* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
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* Aesthetics: Uh, she's the MsFanservice and has the sexy voice of YuuAsakawa. 5.

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* Aesthetics: Uh, she's the MsFanservice and has the sexy voice of YuuAsakawa.Creator/YuuAsakawa. 5.
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* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.

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* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[Franchise/{{Starcraft}} [[VideoGame/StarCraft Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
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* Age: Middle Aged, 3.

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* Age: Middle Aged, 3.Young Adult, 5.



25/10=2.5. Not as hopeless as I was expecting, but he was still destined to fail.

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25/10=2.5. 27/10=2.7. Not as hopeless as I was expecting, but he was still destined more than likely to fail.
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* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there's a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want counting their days on when they'll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.

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* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there's a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want counting to count their days on when they'll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.

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To finish these series, let's take a look at the final current members of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?

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To finish these series, wrap up the first two, let's take a look at the final current members of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?



* Average: 27.5/10 = 2.75. Surprisingly only a few points higher than Reaper but still below average. I guess looks do factor in redeemability, but Sombra still had it low.

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* Average: 27.5/10 = 2.75. Surprisingly only a few points higher than Reaper but still below average. I guess looks do factor in redeemability, but Sombra still had it low.low.

And now let's move to a grayer area. So, Symmetra is working for Vishkar... an 'obviously' corrupt corporates whose 'good intentions' fell flat in their faces with their oppression method. She has her doubts... but will the doubt finally be the catalyst of her giving them the boot?

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: Around 30 years old, young adult. 4.
* Role: The NobleTopEnforcer of Vishkar, groomed to be their Ace. 4.
* Aesthetics: She's definitely attractive, but not so much compared to Widowmaker. 5.
* Motivation: While a WellIntentionedExtremist, Symmetra has developed [[MyMasterRightOrWrong a little bit of doubts about Vishkar's actions]], even if she hasn't taken drastic measures. 5.
* Characterization: She's a very RoundedCharacter with good and bad sides in balance, and very confused about her place in life, be it whether Vishkar is doing a good thing or not, or how she felt alone due to her stance in the autism spectrum. 5.
* Contentness: Life is ''definitely'' hard for her, but she wouldn't angst about it every seconds. 4.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there's a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want counting their days on when they'll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.

Well speaking of morally gray, Hanzo has been offered with the revival of his Shimada clan by Talon. He's... definitely not the white sheep or goody-goody brother unlike Genji... but how long will he keep his normal morality or will he end up selling his soul to the devil for the fallen family? Let's find out.

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Male. 4.
* Age: 38 years old, a young adult. 5.
* Role: Right now he works as a freelancing mercenary. 4.
* Aesthetics: Even after his abandonment of the clan, he still looked dignified, even enough to buy himself a good jacket for winter. 2.
* Motivation: "With every death comes honor. With honor, redemption." Yep. 3
* Characterization: While things wasn't as smooth in Hanzo's life, he's not as bitter as some like Soldier: 76. He can enjoy certain good things like buying a cake for a kid, eating ramen, crack joke or debate on which is better: wine or sake. However, he's also pretty arrogant when it comes to his skills against anyone else. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Contentness: Very so-so to him. The Genji issue is a big blow to him, but he still finds time to be a little more social. 3.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. In this score? 2.5
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 32.5/10 = 3.25. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.
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* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it's not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.

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* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it's not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.chance.

To finish these series, let's take a look at the final current members of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: 30 years old, definitely young adult. 4.
* Role: Even when she worked with Talon, Sombra is an opportunist to heart, she's just using her allegiance to Talon to further her own goal, that we don't know yet. 2.
* Aesthetics: Well, while Sombra is not running on EvilIsSexy like Widowmaker, she's pretty attractive, actually that gives her a higher score: 5.
* Motivation: ForTheEvulz to the fullest: Sombra has no 'amoral handicap' unlike Widowmaker (brainwashed) or Reaper (constant pain every seconds), she's a bad girl because she likes it that way. 1.
* Characterization: Well, she's gunning down for a certain thing that we don't know of, but she also enjoys causing chaos here and there. 1.5.
* Contentness: No angst, like I said before. 1.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 27.5/10 = 2.75. Surprisingly only a few points higher than Reaper but still below average. I guess looks do factor in redeemability, but Sombra still had it low.

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* Contentness: Claims to be enjoying every minute, but then we have some shades that she wished she could die and join her husband in death. The first part kind of overwhelms the latter, so 2.

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* Contentness: Claims to be enjoying every minute, but then we have some shades that she wished she could die and join her husband in death.death, AKA BeingEvilSucks. The first part kind of overwhelms the latter, so 2.



* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It's just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...

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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It's just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...Peacemaker...

Next up, Reaper. How likely is Mr. Edgelord going to learn humility and stop being petty or such a glory hound that he could get back to the good graces of the Overwatch, or will he continue relishing being an edgy evil assassin?

* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Male. 2.
* Age: Middle-aged, seeing that he's 50 during the Switzerland incident. 3
* Role: He combines being the other [[TheDragon Dragon]] for Talon and also a mercenary (Talon hired him). I'll give it 4.5.
* Aesthetics: Beneath the mask is something downright fucked up it freaks other people out. 2.
* Motivation: All he wanted was recognition, even if he has to do evil shits by it, though he does get kicks in doing bad stuffs. However, it wasn't part of what he was in the past, so... I'll give it 2.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far and Reaper does it par excellence, not to mention, back then he used to be so petty. So 1.
* Contentness: Like Widowmaker, Reaper's life after resurrection was a constant pain, but he made it up by relishing his evil ways. So he gets the same score: 2.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it's not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.
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'''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'''

Considering how ''Reflections'' had her do something 'good' like visiting her husband's grave, how likely do you think Amelie Lacroix will re-emerge from Widowmaker, thereby starting her redemption arc?

* Species: Human, though re-conditioned. 3.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: 33 years old, which means... young adult. 4.
* Role: She's pretty much TheHeavy and TheDragon, conditioned to be loyal to Talon. Therefore 4.
* Aesthetics: The game's poster girl for EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: After the brainwashing, [[ForTheEvulz she kills for the sake of 'feeling alive']], which puts her very low. However, if we talk about Amelie, she's basically brainwashed into it. For convenience's sake, let's just put the average, at 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far, so 1.
* Contentness: Claims to be enjoying every minute, but then we have some shades that she wished she could die and join her husband in death. The first part kind of overwhelms the latter, so 2.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It's just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...

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* Gender: All gems ascribe as female. 4.

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* Gender: All gems are genderless but ascribe as female. 4.



* Motivation: Preaches social darwinism under the rule of the diamonds, and wants nothing but slow and painful revenge on "Rose Quartz". 2.

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* Motivation: Preaches social darwinism under the rule of the diamonds, and wants nothing but slow and painful revenge on "Rose Quartz". 2.3.



* Idealism of the story: Not every single conflict ends with everyone happier than ever, but the series is overall idealistic. 4.
* Average: 31/10: 3.1. It's pretty much 50/50 [[spoiler: assuming she gets uncorrupted]].

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* Idealism of the story: Not every single conflict ends with everyone happier than ever, before, but the series is overall idealistic. 4.
* Average: 31/10: 32/10 = 3.1.2. It's pretty much 50/50 [[spoiler: assuming she gets uncorrupted]]. \n

What about Bismuth?

* Species: Same as Jasper. 2.
* Gender: See above. 4.
* Age: Ditto. 1.
* Role: The closest thing that fits her on the table is RivalTurnedEvil. 5.
* Aesthetics: There's nothing particularly beautiful or ugly about her in universe. 3.
* Motivation: Boils down to KnightTemplar-thinking and revenge on Homeworld for treating her as a slave and killing her friends during the war. 4.
* Characterization: Technically, she's already on team good, just too "anti" of an AntiHero who's enthusiastic about the Crystal Gems' cause but jaded towards Rose Quartz and their friendship. 5.
* Contentness: There's not buts about it: life sucks for her at the moment, DeathSeeker tendencies and all. 5.
* Morality of the story: Same as before. 5.
* Idealism of the story: Ditto. 4.
* Average: 38/10 = 3.8. Pretty high score for someone who tried to kill Steven. Once her "time out" is over, she'll be front and center for a change of heart in time for the finale.
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With Peridot and Lapis of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' redeeming themselves as the show goes on, will the last "Homeworld Gem" Jasper join them?

* Species: Gems are a text-book case of HumanOutsideAlienInside. 2.
* Gender: All gems ascribe as female. 4.
* Age: [[TimeAbyss At least a couple thousand years old]]. 1.
* Role: Played TheHeavy to Yellow Diamond during a season finale and a later arc. 4.
* Aesthetics: Whenever she smiles with those NonStandardCharacterDesign facial expressions, a puppy dies. 2.
* Motivation: Preaches social darwinism under the rule of the diamonds, and wants nothing but slow and painful revenge on "Rose Quartz". 2.
* Characterization: Prideful in her Quartz status, has a drug-like addition towards fusion, callous towards allies and enemies alike... Checking out the seven sins fits the bill. 2.
* Contentness: As of her VillainousBreakdown, full-on angst. 5.
* Morality of the story: Two human {{Hate Sink}}s and [[EvilOverlord the Diamonds]] aside, the show preaches RousseauWasRight. 5
* Idealism of the story: Not every single conflict ends with everyone happier than ever, but the series is overall idealistic. 4.
* Average: 31/10: 3.1. It's pretty much 50/50 [[spoiler: assuming she gets uncorrupted]].

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Okay, the last episode of ''Anime/{{Brave 10}}'' is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [[OnTheNextEpisodeOfCatchPhrase Bring it on!]]

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Okay, the last episode of ''Anime/{{Brave 10}}'' ''Manga/Brave10'' is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [[OnTheNextEpisodeOfCatchPhrase Bring it on!]]
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Let's see if evilly charming Road from ''DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:

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Let's see if evilly charming Road from ''DGrayMan'' ''Manga/DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:
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Jumping on the BioWare bandwagon, let's play with Dragon Age!

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Jumping on the BioWare Creator/BioWare bandwagon, let's play with Dragon Age!
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||'''Morality of the story'''|| RousseauWasRight || BlackAndWhiteMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || GreyAndGrayMorality || BlackAndGrayMorality, EvilVersuEvil ||

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