History WMG / SisterClaire

12th May '17 5:03:51 PM Chubzhac
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** [[spoiler:Jossed. She wasn't even pregnant to begin with.]]




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** Well it's been almost nine years and the comic still doesn't have an ongoing conflict or any real antagonist so you might have a point.




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** You're partly correct. Claire is indeed Clementine's reincarnation, but Catherine is her older sister, Gabrielle isn't an angel and can't reincarnate people and how Claire was "created" is still unknown.




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** The timing doesn't match up. Lupo's family was killed when he was a small child, nearly two decades ago, which would be about the same time Olga first met Jackson. Likewise, Olga is probably twice Lupo's age and she saw her mentor die when she was a teenager, so Olga's mentor was probably killed years before Lupo's parents.




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** It's been revealed that Clementine was the one who accidentally scarred Abraham when her powers first emerged and Catherine's early fear of nuns suggests that the rest of abbey tried to kill them, forcing them to escape and inadvertently get separated at sea.
12th May '17 4:17:13 PM Chubzhac
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* The reason Lupo has so much trouble with transforming into a wolf is because he's really some kind of fire witch. One or both of his parents were, in fact, fire witches and he inherited their magick but was too young at the time to realize it. And the reason his fire magick hasn't developed is because seeing his family burned alive created some kind of mental block that keeps him from reaching his full potential.

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* The reason Lupo has so much trouble with transforming into a wolf is because he's really some kind of fire witch. One or both of his parents were, in fact, fire witches and he inherited their magick but was too young at the time to realize it. And the reason his fire magick hasn't developed is because seeing his family burned alive created some kind of mental block that keeps him from reaching his full potential.

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potential.
12th May '17 4:10:32 PM Chubzhac
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[[WMG: Clementine destroyed Thorum Mare]]
* It has been shown in the live-writes that Thorum Mare gets destroyed by Shards, which Clementine was obsessed with helping. Likewise, it was also revealed that Clementine and Hanabi created a large light above Eden to help people find it and the map given to Hanabi showed that Thorum Mare was directly north of Eden. What if the light lured Shards to Eden and they overran Thorum Mare in the process? This would result in Clementine and other witches being demonized by the public and nuns going to war against them, ultimately ending with Clementine's death and the destruction of Eden.

[[WMG: Lupo is really a fire witch]]
* The reason Lupo has so much trouble with transforming into a wolf is because he's really some kind of fire witch. One or both of his parents were, in fact, fire witches and he inherited their magick but was too young at the time to realize it. And the reason his fire magick hasn't developed is because seeing his family burned alive created some kind of mental block that keeps him from reaching his full potential.
28th Apr '15 10:22:01 PM erforce
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See: Gabrielle is not quite an angel. Now, first things first: "The Antichrist" is not [[TheOmen Damien]]. An antichrist is pretty much a person that says they're a Christian but doesn't believe Christ is God. Following the other "route", the child would be false prophet that would screw up people's faith in God. The later would help [[spoiler:the witches get an edge over their terrible losses in the war.]] The former, not so much. The misconception... yes.

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See: Gabrielle is not quite an angel. Now, first things first: "The Antichrist" is not [[TheOmen [[Film/TheOmen Damien]]. An antichrist is pretty much a person that says they're a Christian but doesn't believe Christ is God. Following the other "route", the child would be false prophet that would screw up people's faith in God. The later would help [[spoiler:the witches get an edge over their terrible losses in the war.]] The former, not so much. The misconception... yes.
25th Apr '15 10:57:37 AM Retro7
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* Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil. This might be why she uses fire in her "cleansings" as a twisted form of irony.

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* Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness strength to stop them and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil. This might be why she uses fire in her "cleansings" as a twisted form of irony.
23rd Apr '15 10:06:16 AM Retro7
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* Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil.

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* Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil.
evil. This might be why she uses fire in her "cleansings" as a twisted form of irony.
23rd Apr '15 10:04:59 AM Retro7
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[[WMG Abraham is doing what she does largely out of a misplaced sense of revenge.]]

Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil.

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[[WMG [[WMG: Abraham is doing what she does largely out of a misplaced sense of revenge.]]

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Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil.
23rd Apr '15 10:03:28 AM Retro7
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[[WMG Abraham is doing what she does largely out of a misplaced sense of revenge.]]

Upon the discovery that Clemintine (and possibly Catherine) knew Abraham as Mother Abraham in the past. It can be surmised that the two sisters were taken to her abbey after their father died to live there. But whatever group that took them away on their ship came by, recognized Clemintine's potential for magic and wished to take her with them. Abraham said no but, if you remember the near kidnapping of Marie and Rosaline, the group wouldn't accept the answer. So they burned the abbey to the ground and took the two sisters by force. Abraham survived albeit with those wounds of hers, grew bitter at her lack of weakness and vowed to destroy all witches, deeming them all evil.
17th Dec '14 1:55:53 PM yukitora
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** As of late though, the backstory involving her puts her in a positive light,[[spoiler: though it does confirm she was a Selkie, which would explain her connection to the underwater folk.]]




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** [[spoiler: Jossed, although there may be some value to the Clementine bit.]]
4th Nov '14 11:00:51 AM Retro7
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[[WMG: Lupo and Olga are connected]]
* The signs are pointing to it since both lost loved ones at a young age due to the war. And it's possible that the Wolf Witches that killed Olga's mentor weren't doing it out of malicious intent but rather protective instinct ie: to protect a young Lupo. That's right, they could be Lupo's parents and Olga's memory is just self serving due to the trauma. Considering how we've lately been showcased how utterly KnightTemplar the Helsing Branch is and the theme of the cycle of hatred on both sides. It wouldn't be a stretch.

[[WMG: An Unknown Force, possibly a demon, is manipulating the Helsing Branch]]
* A recent Missing Moment story showcased that Gabrielle recognized something within the fire Abraham started at Mercy Abbey. This could mean there's a malevolent force we haven't seen yet that that could be manipulating the Helsing Branch into killing the witches, or just magick users in general, for a purpose. Maybe even the cause of the war and the death of the Witch Queen.
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