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Thieves Landing ends up as a smaller version of Reno. Parts of Tall Trees becomes a national park, the rest is cut down or developed.

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Thieves Landing ends up as a smaller version of Reno. Parts of Tall Trees becomes a national park, the rest is cut down or developed.developed.

[[WMG: John Marston is Johnny K`s ancestor and Bill Williamson is Billy Grey`s ancestor]]
Both John Marston and Johnny K were both in gang`s with gruff voices and dealt with betrayal within the gang
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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit John was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [[AmbiguouslyGay[=DeSanta=]]] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.

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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit John was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [[AmbiguouslyGay[=DeSanta=]]] [[AmbiguouslyGay [=DeSanta=]]] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.
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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit John was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.

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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit John was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [=DeSanta=] [[AmbiguouslyGay[=DeSanta=]]] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.
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** If anything, Ross would have emphasized with John [[spoiler: ''after'' having him killed. By the time Jack catches up with him in "Remember My Family", he's tried time and time again to retire and spend his remaining years with his family, but the government keeps pulling him back in for work. Perhaps under his snide "He killed himself with the life he lived" exterior, Ross realized [[NotSoDifferent the similarities between his situation and what he put John through]], and maybe even emphasized with him after the fact. He ''does'' threaten to kill Jack as well, but to be fair, by that point in the conversation it's pretty clear that Jack is there to put a bullet ([[NoKillLikeOverkill or 16]]) in his head.]]
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* Or, Jack ends up running a criminal empire of underground bars and alcohol. However, he has a family and he is a fairly nice guy. And the game focuses on a blood feud between the Marstons and Edger Ross's son and his family. And you have a choice of who to work for. As for the game world, it has several large cities, and miles of gangster riddled depression stricken wasteland between it. And horses return, along with 30's cars. Horses are slower, but they are more maneuverable, cost less, and can go off road. Cars are faster and protect the occupant.
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The next game will take place when Dutch's original Gang was still around and missions would involve robbing people, banks, and kidnapping people with John slowly questioning what they are doing as Dutch descends into madness and it has an effect on Bill and Javier. Also for a potential WhamEpisode, John's daughter will be shown and she'll be a sickly child who Abigail and Jack tends to but John can't get a doctor to see her because of his reputation. Shortly before The Epilogue, she will die and John would be so distraught over what happened that he can't concentrate thus leading up to the botched robbery where John gets shot and left for dead by his companions thus leading him wanting to walk away from the life he's lead.

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The next game will take place when Dutch's original Gang was still around and missions would involve robbing people, banks, and kidnapping people with John slowly questioning what they are doing as Dutch descends into madness and it has an effect on Bill and Javier. Also for a potential WhamEpisode, John's daughter will be shown and she'll be a sickly child who Abigail and Jack tends to but John can't get a doctor to see her because of his reputation. Shortly before The Epilogue, she will die and John would be so distraught over what happened that he can't concentrate thus leading up to the botched robbery where John gets shot and left for dead by his companions thus leading him wanting to walk away from the life he's lead.lead.

[[WMG: What would the game world look like in 2011?]]
I think Blackwater would end up as a good-sized city, most of the surrounding area becomes suburban.
Thieves Landing ends up as a smaller version of Reno. Parts of Tall Trees becomes a national park, the rest is cut down or developed.

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*** Maybe California is made up of North California and Oregon, while San Andreas is made up of the southern parts of California and Nevada.
Along that logic, maybe Liberty City is a state by itself, and there's another, smaller city named New York.




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** I think it would be hilarious if in GTA V you can see a movie trailer for "John Marston: Zombie Hunter", where the west's most infamous outlaw has to fight hordes of zombies to save his family. And of course, John is a clean cut all-American guy with an AK-47 and a rapping black sidekick.
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This game does take place in the Wild West, and it's entirely possible that Wild West action occurs in the show.

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This game does take place in the Wild West, and it's entirely possible that Wild West action occurs in the show.show.

[[WMG: The next game will be a Prequel]]
The next game will take place when Dutch's original Gang was still around and missions would involve robbing people, banks, and kidnapping people with John slowly questioning what they are doing as Dutch descends into madness and it has an effect on Bill and Javier. Also for a potential WhamEpisode, John's daughter will be shown and she'll be a sickly child who Abigail and Jack tends to but John can't get a doctor to see her because of his reputation. Shortly before The Epilogue, she will die and John would be so distraught over what happened that he can't concentrate thus leading up to the botched robbery where John gets shot and left for dead by his companions thus leading him wanting to walk away from the life he's lead.
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Dead Eye would continue to be passed down, except under the name "[[RainbowSix Mark and]] [[SplinterCell Execute]]".

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Dead Eye would continue to be passed down, except under the name "[[RainbowSix "[[Literature/RainbowSix Mark and]] [[SplinterCell Execute]]".

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His motives are ambiguois and he knows evereything about John and what's going on. The Slenderman takes the appearance of an ordinary human [[RuleOfCool because he can.]] He also appears randomly, as if Slendy is stalking John.

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His motives are ambiguois ambiguous and he knows evereything everything about John and what's going on. The Slenderman takes the appearance of an ordinary human [[RuleOfCool because he can.]] He also appears randomly, as if Slendy is stalking John.John.

[[WMG: This game takes place in the ''Series/{{Revolution}}'' universe.]]
This game does take place in the Wild West, and it's entirely possible that Wild West action occurs in the show.
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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit he was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.

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While it's day when John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit he John was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.
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Yeah it's just for shits and giggles, but come on, no matter what other outfit John's wearing, he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason, and while it's day when he gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.

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Yeah it's just for shits and giggles, but come on, no matter what other outfit John's wearing, he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason, and while While it's day when he John gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? Plus, no matter what outfit he was wearing he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason. [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.
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Yeah it's just for shits and giggles, but come on, no matter what other outfit John's wearing, he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason, and while it's day when he gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? [=DeSanta=] wanted to have some fun with him first.

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Yeah it's just for shits and giggles, but come on, no matter what other outfit John's wearing, he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason, and while it's day when he gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? [=DeSanta=] clearly wanted to have some fun with him first.
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[[WMG: [=DeSanta=] rapes John after the soldier knocks him out in the mission "Cowards Die Many Times".]]

Yeah it's just for shits and giggles, but come on, no matter what other outfit John's wearing, he will be back in his "starter" outfit which implies they changed his clothes for some reason, and while it's day when he gets betrayed, it cuts to night time when we see them again. Why did they wait that long before attempting to kill him? [=DeSanta=] wanted to have some fun with him first.
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* George Miller once said the same thing about his movies. By that logic it could be based on Mad Max...or Babe: Pig in the City.
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[[WMG: John Marston is [[TheDarkTower Roland Deschain.]] ]]

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[[WMG: John Marston is [[TheDarkTower [[Franchise/TheDarkTower Roland Deschain.]] ]]
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* Correction: The strange man can be killed in one of the first two encounters by just drawing your gun and shooting him. In fact, in the first encounter, doing this will cause John to shout "I don't believe you!"
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[[WMG: RDR is in continuity with the TomClancy titles.]]

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[[WMG: RDR is in continuity with the TomClancy ''Literature/JackRyan'' titles.]]
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[[WMG:John is the son of [[{{X-Men}} Wolverine]].]]

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[[WMG:John is the son of [[{{X-Men}} Wolverine]].{{Wolverine}}.]]
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So famous, that many years later a toy was made in his honor. That toy was named [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory Stinky Pete]].

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So famous, that many years later a toy was made in his honor. That toy was named [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory2 Stinky Pete]].
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* ...but not famous enough to avoid becoming a [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shelfwarmer shelfwarmer]], apparently, according to his behavior in ToyStory2.

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* ...but not famous enough to avoid becoming a [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shelfwarmer shelfwarmer]], apparently, according to his behavior in ToyStory2.
''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2''.
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Jack will become a bank-robber after getting back from WWI, and you play as a FBI agent trying to track him down through the Roarin' 20s and the Great Depression. Your exploits end up being dramatized into a series of books and movies that inspire a young Cole Phelps to become a police officer after the end of WWII.

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Jack will become a bank-robber after getting back from WWI, and you play as a FBI agent trying to track him down through the Roarin' 20s and the Great Depression. Your exploits end up being dramatized into a series of books and movies that inspire a young Cole Phelps to become a police officer after the end of WWII.WWII.

[[WMG: The Strange man is [[SlendermanMythos The Slenderman.]]]]
His motives are ambiguois and he knows evereything about John and what's going on. The Slenderman takes the appearance of an ordinary human [[RuleOfCool because he can.]] He also appears randomly, as if Slendy is stalking John.
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[[WMG: Red Harlow, John Marston, and Landon Ricketts are [[AssassinsCreed Assassins]].]]

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[[WMG: Red Harlow, John Marston, and Landon Ricketts are [[AssassinsCreed [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed Assassins]].]]
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...[[MetalGearSolid Revolver Ocelot]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory in Valhalla]], living out his favourite fantasy for all eternity.

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...[[MetalGearSolid [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Revolver Ocelot]] [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory in Valhalla]], living out his favourite fantasy for all eternity.



* Dead eye is John's version of Wolverine's enhanced senses

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* Dead eye is John's version of Wolverine's enhanced senses senses



** If it is, i like to present the possibility that Irish is an ancestor of the McReary's.

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** If it is, i like to present the possibility that Irish is an ancestor of the McReary's.
McReary's.



* Jossed: [[spoiler: He still gets killed by Ross after he cures everyone]].

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* Jossed: [[spoiler: He still gets killed by Ross after he cures everyone]].



Think about how the average player would act in regards to the Homestead epilogue, after the false Everybody Lives Happily Ever After (TM) ending. Would they live on the ranch until the end of there days teaching [[TheScrappy Jack]] and doing mundane chores after having experienced the adventure the rest of the world has to offer? What choice did you make: to continue herding animals or to hunt down the train robbers?

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Think about how the average player would act in regards to the Homestead epilogue, after the false Everybody Lives Happily Ever After (TM) ending. Would they live on the ranch until the end of there days teaching [[TheScrappy Jack]] and doing mundane chores after having experienced the adventure the rest of the world has to offer? What choice did you make: to continue herding animals or to hunt down the train robbers?
robbers?



[[WMG: John Marston is a distant relative of [[BurnNotice Michael Westen.]]]]

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[[WMG: John Marston is a distant relative of [[BurnNotice [[Series/BurnNotice Michael Westen.]]]]



Is because he spent so much time talking to corpses. They probably appreciated that. Or it's just that he's not that appetising, since he's skinny and stinks worse than they do.

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Is because he spent so much time talking to corpses. They probably appreciated that. Or it's just that he's not that appetising, since he's skinny and stinks worse than they do.
do.



* Makes you wish even more now for a DLC with an alternate ending, huh?

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* Makes you wish even more now for a DLC with an alternate ending, huh? huh?



So famous, that many years later a toy was made in his honor. That toy was named [[ToyStory Stinky Pete]].

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So famous, that many years later a toy was made in his honor. That toy was named [[ToyStory [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory Stinky Pete]].
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The Red Dead series is the best Western you'll find in gaming, and McCarthy himself has stated that, at their hearts, all of his stories are Westerns.

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The Red Dead series is the best Western you'll find in gaming, and McCarthy himself has stated that, at their hearts, all of his stories are Westerns.Westerns.

[[WMG: The next game will bridge the time-gap between Redemption & LA Noire]]

Jack will become a bank-robber after getting back from WWI, and you play as a FBI agent trying to track him down through the Roarin' 20s and the Great Depression. Your exploits end up being dramatized into a series of books and movies that inspire a young Cole Phelps to become a police officer after the end of WWII.
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* Think about it. The whole game, John is saying to himself, "I hope I wake up soon." What a nightmare." or "I must be dreaming." Thats why McDougal suddenly returns, Nastas is still alive (well sort of), and nobody mentions the freakin' zombie apocalypse when you play as Jack. At the beginning of the game, John listened to Jack tell a story about zombies. He went to bed with that on his mind and thus dreamed everything. Plus the title, Undead ''Nightmare''.

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* Think about it. The whole game, John is saying to himself, "I hope I wake up soon." What a nightmare." or "I must be dreaming." Thats why McDougal [=McDougal=] suddenly returns, Nastas is still alive (well sort of), and nobody mentions the freakin' zombie apocalypse when you play as Jack. At the beginning of the game, John listened to Jack tell a story about zombies. He went to bed with that on his mind and thus dreamed everything. Plus the title, Undead ''Nightmare''.
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** Not to mention an entire side quest named "California", all about a man trying to reach California (not San Andreas).
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You play as a policeman, chasing around [[spoiler: Jack Marston]], believing him to be the mastermind behind some nefarious series of crimes, but in reality, he wants to escape his life as an outlaw [[spoiler: (much like dear old dad)]]. Depending on [[KarmaMeter how desperate for justice you are,]] you either A) spare him and find who the real BigBad is, or B) gun him down impulsively and lose a valuable ally. [[ReplacementScrappy Any rejoicing]] will quickly be squashed by the fact that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he's a much more appealing person in general.]]

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You play as a policeman, chasing around [[spoiler: Jack Marston]], believing him to be the mastermind behind some nefarious series of crimes, but in reality, he wants to escape his life as an outlaw [[spoiler: (much like dear old dad)]]. Depending on [[KarmaMeter how desperate for justice you are,]] you either A) spare him and find who the real BigBad is, or B) gun him down impulsively and lose a valuable ally. [[ReplacementScrappy Any rejoicing]] will quickly be squashed by the fact that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he's a much more appealing person in general.]]]]

[[WMG: The next Red Dead game will be based on the stories of Cormac McCarthy.]]
The Red Dead series is the best Western you'll find in gaming, and McCarthy himself has stated that, at their hearts, all of his stories are Westerns.
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[[WMG: John Marston is an ancestor of MaxPayne.]]

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[[WMG: John Marston is an ancestor of MaxPayne.VideoGame/MaxPayne.]]



* So would that in turn make the ending of MaxPayne 2 a tragic twist [[spoiler: by having Mona die and Max live? The ancestor with the troubled life gets redeemed in death; while his descendent suffers on despite his sacfrices.]]

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* So would that in turn make the ending of MaxPayne 2 ''Max Payne 2'' a tragic twist [[spoiler: by having Mona die and Max live? The ancestor with the troubled life gets redeemed in death; while his descendent suffers on despite his sacfrices.]]
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*Or he could smell like corpse after being around them.

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