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22nd Jul '17 6:15:20 AM DoctorNemesis
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But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He knocked her up, refused to support the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs. It's notable that Clara is dressed similarly to the prostitutes who appear throughout the game, and she naturally spun John the story of being a wronged and abandoned serving girl taken advantage of by her employers because she assumed he'd find that more sympathetic than her being a prostitute who accidentally got knocked up during an evening's work.

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But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He knocked hired her up, services, got her pregnant and refused to support her or the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took such brutal satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs. It's notable that Clara is dressed similarly to the prostitutes who appear throughout the game, and she naturally spun John the story of being a wronged and abandoned serving girl taken advantage of by her employers because she assumed he'd find that more sympathetic than her being a prostitute who accidentally got knocked up during an evening's work.
22nd Jul '17 6:14:22 AM DoctorNemesis
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[[WMG: Harold Thorton was the father of Clara [=LaGuerta=]'s baby.]]
But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He knocked her up, refused to support the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs.

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[[WMG: Harold Thorton was ''was'' the father of Clara [=LaGuerta=]'s baby.]]
But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He knocked her up, refused to support the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs. It's notable that Clara is dressed similarly to the prostitutes who appear throughout the game, and she naturally spun John the story of being a wronged and abandoned serving girl taken advantage of by her employers because she assumed he'd find that more sympathetic than her being a prostitute who accidentally got knocked up during an evening's work.
22nd Jul '17 6:10:52 AM DoctorNemesis
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* A creepy kid in the middle of nowhere, asking you if you are lost.

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* A creepy kid in the middle of nowhere, asking you if you are lost.lost.

[[WMG: Harold Thorton was the father of Clara [=LaGuerta=]'s baby.]]
But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He knocked her up, refused to support the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs.
10th Jun '17 3:09:18 PM nombretomado
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In short, Marston- as epitomized by the Player- ''CANNOT'' just stay on the ranch forever, no matter how much he may love and care for his family, just as he would have eventually roamed around on his own sooner or later if the BOI didn't step in and create a reason for him to do it sooner. Eventually, he will return to his old life simply because he cannot NOT do so. And when he does, there is a fair chance that he will do something unbelievably damaging or in general illegal, particularly with WorldWarOne and troubles from across the border looming on the horizon. Ross- probably having made a study of the Marstons- knew this, and it just added the final nail(s) to the coffin of his decision on what to do with John.

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In short, Marston- as epitomized by the Player- ''CANNOT'' just stay on the ranch forever, no matter how much he may love and care for his family, just as he would have eventually roamed around on his own sooner or later if the BOI didn't step in and create a reason for him to do it sooner. Eventually, he will return to his old life simply because he cannot NOT do so. And when he does, there is a fair chance that he will do something unbelievably damaging or in general illegal, particularly with WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and troubles from across the border looming on the horizon. Ross- probably having made a study of the Marstons- knew this, and it just added the final nail(s) to the coffin of his decision on what to do with John.
13th Apr '17 5:36:10 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Strange man is [[SlendermanMythos The Slenderman.]]]]

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[[WMG: The Strange man is [[SlendermanMythos [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos The Slenderman.]]]]
24th Nov '16 12:30:58 AM Naram-Sin
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[[WMG: RDR2 will include a camel as a joke mount.]]
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.

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[[WMG: RDR2 [=RDR2=] will include a camel as a joke mount.]]
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.horse.

[[WMG: Possible shout outs to Westworld]]
WordOfGod is that [=RDR2=] will have one ShoutOut to the HBO series ''{{Series/Westworld}}''. What could that be?
* A representation of the Maze.
* A cameo by the Man in Black or a reference to him by [[TheOmniscient The Stranger]].
* Non-playable characters that behave like excited, annoying tourists and cannot be killed.
* A blonde woman in a blue dress, dropping a milk can near a train station.
* A creepy kid in the middle of nowhere, asking you if you are lost.
23rd Nov '16 3:00:04 PM Naram-Sin
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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateTimeline. As ''[[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemptionUndeadNightmare Undead Nightmare]]'' demonstrated, such a split wouldn't be out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. An AlternateTimeline StealthSequel would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.

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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateTimeline. As ''[[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemptionUndeadNightmare Undead Nightmare]]'' demonstrated, such a split wouldn't be out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. An AlternateTimeline StealthSequel would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.DevelopingDoomedCharacters.

[[WMG: RDR2 will include a camel as a joke mount.]]
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.
30th Oct '16 12:52:59 PM RJTheEdgelord
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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateTimeline. As ''Undead Nightmare'' demonstrated such a split wouldn't be out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. An AlternateTimeline StealthSequel would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.

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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateTimeline. As ''Undead Nightmare'' demonstrated ''[[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemptionUndeadNightmare Undead Nightmare]]'' demonstrated, such a split wouldn't be out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. An AlternateTimeline StealthSequel would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.
30th Oct '16 12:51:27 PM RJTheEdgelord
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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateContinuity. As ''Undead Nightmare'' demonstrated, alternate timelines aren't out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. This would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.

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That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateContinuity. AlternateTimeline. As ''Undead Nightmare'' demonstrated, alternate timelines aren't demonstrated such a split wouldn't be out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. This An AlternateTimeline StealthSequel would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.
30th Oct '16 12:47:49 PM RJTheEdgelord
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The game will also incorporate the character switching system from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', allowing players to take control of any of the seven whenever they like.

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The game will also incorporate the character switching system from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'', allowing players to take control of any of the seven whenever they like.like.


[[WMG: Read Dead Redemption 2 won't be ''solely'' a prequel.]]
That would be what everyone's expecting. The first act will indeed be a prequel, before converging with the events of the first game, and veering off into an AlternateContinuity. As ''Undead Nightmare'' demonstrated, alternate timelines aren't out of the question in the ''Red Dead'' universe. This would both reconcile the title's AnachronicOrder, and ease the narrative burden of DevelopingDoomedCharacters.
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