History WMG / PrinceOfPersia

[[WMG:Malik from Forgotten Sands is The Mourning King]]

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** But if this theory was true, is the dagger a Piece of Eden or some random artifact?
** The Sands could be a powerful bioweapon, but it would be nigh-impossible for even the Templars to wipe ''the Indian invasion of Babylon'' from history. Remember, the world's history, in AC, is basically the same except for the bits the Templars altered.

[[WMG:The Dahaka is a sand monster]]
It can't pass through water, dies when it falls into the sea, and is clearly hurt by the Water Sword. Now, does a beast which represent fate itself sound like it would have those vulnerabilities? More likely, it's a sand monster impersonating the real Dahaka, of which there are only legends.
* Actually, water and sand appear to be symbolically opposed elements in the [=PoP=]-verse. Sand represents time and entropy; water represents life and renewal.

--> '''Spokes-slave''': "Hey, you get what you pay for."

[[WMG: The reason why the final sword in the first game can kill sand monster is]]
The same reason as you can kill the non-human sand monsters. It destroys their entire body leaving nothing for the sands to revive. The sword can destroy slightly damage walls in a single hit it is clearly absurdly powerful.

[[WMG:Sands of Time Prince's [[DarkerAndEdgier Generic Rage]] persona was the Dahaka's fault]]
Not just because being forced to run for years, no one believing him, jaded him up. The Dahaka was also able to directly corrupt him somehow, and do it very thoroughly. Maybe it's ''not'' the only one of its kind, and reproduces through converting the people it chases. Being exposed to the Sands made the Dahaka in him sort of separate from what was left of the rest of him, resulting in the Dark Prince, a combination of Dahaka and sand monster.
* All but confirmed in The Two Thrones, where Kaillena all but says something to that effect in the opening levels.

[[WMG:The Prince already made a DealWithTheDevil]]
The 2008 Prince, that is. That's why he can grab ledges after falling a distance without ripping his arms out, and why his sword can effect Ahriman's soldiers, which appear to be nothing more than wind and darkness. It also explains why the Alchemist's gambit of infecting him with the Corruption didn't work -- his soul was already promised to another demon, and so Ahriman couldn't take it.

It's very possible that the original Prince could be the father of the Sands of Time Prince, while the New Prince could be a distant cousin.

[[WMG:Azad's justice system was run on the same lines as that of VideoGame/DwarfFortress]]
That's why so many of the enemies there wield hammers. They weren't prisoners, they were executioners.

[[WMG:Malik from Forgotten Sands is The Mourning King]]
Both of them look pretty similar, and wear similar clothes/armour. All we see of Malik at the end of Forgotten Sands is him collapsing. He went into some sort of coma, and when he woke up, didn't tell his family that he was still alive out of shame and embarrassment at his possession. He fled to another kingdom, eventually became its ruler, and this led to the events of the 2008 Prince of Persia game.

--> '''Spokes-slave''': "Hey, you get what you pay for."

The 2006 Prince, that is. That's why he can grab ledges after falling a distance without ripping his arms out, and why his sword can effect Ahriman's soldiers, which appear to be nothing more than wind and darkness. It also explains why the Alchemist's gambit of infecting him with the Corruption didn't work -- his soul was already promised to another demon, and so Ahriman couldn't take it.

* Later*

The game seems to make a point of giving you an easy to find fountain when you have Farah near the end of the first game, and she doesn't seem to notice you were gone. Not to mention that each hole leading to the fountain always disappear as if they never existed. Its really just a glimpse into the prince's soul and partaking of the water is a means of countering the corruption the sands bring onto him.

* Actually, water and sand appear to be symbolically opposed elements in the [=PoP=]-verse. Sand represents time and entropy; water represents life and renewal.

[[WMG:The games take place in the AssassinsCreed universe]]

* Actually, water and sand appear to be symbolically opposed elements in the [=PoP=]-verse. Sand represents time and entropy; water represents life and renewal.

It's very possible that the original Prince could be the father of the Sands of Time Prince, while the New Prince could be a distant cousin.

[[WMG:Azad's justice system was run on the same lines as that of DwarfFortress]]

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[[WMG:All of the Corrupted were either part of Elika's family, or part of the royal court]]
Elika becomes especially distraught when fighting the Corrupted, despite the fact that they are clearly evil and need to be killed in order to heal the land. In fact, Elika takes The Prince's habit of taunting the Corrupted quite personally. The most obvious is of course the Concubine, who is Elika's mother (She calls herself the Queen, she is found in the portion of the world that Elika says her mother loved...), The Warrior is probably Elika's grandfather, The Hunter is likely to be her brother, and the Alchemist is probably the court vizier (which is also why Elika doesn't particularly get upset when The Prince beats him). That's why Elika is so bummed when her dad [[spoiler:becomes The Mourning King, since it just proves that her family is tainted.]]
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[[WMG:The Prince is Ormazd]]
It's been discussed on the Just Bugs Me page that the ending of the newest [=PoP=] may not be bad, but rather, a [[spoiler:nessesary evil, as Ahriman's prison is suggested to be failing due to a lack of regular maintenance and the fact that even if the Prince hadn't broken the seal, someone, someday, would eventually do it again, with Elika long gone to work in stopping him]]. Thus, the Prince has only done what needs to be done. It's a bit of an inversion of MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning, in that the hero causing the apocalypse is only the beginning, a necessary step to beating Ahriman for good. Who would want to beat back Ahriman for good, quite possibly doing anything necessary to make it happen? His brother and rival god, of course. Elika mentions that Ormazd eventually just up and left...to go ride around on a gold-carrying donkey, perhaps?
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[[WMG:The Prince is Verethragna]]
Contrast with the above theory. The Prince isn't Ahura Mazda (Ormazd) but another figure from old Persian mythology: Verethragna (Bahram), the vanquisher, and avatar of Ahura Mazda's glory, who the Greeks associated with Herakles. Verethragna was usually depicted with a large sword - and the Prince has a pretty spiffy one. He was associated with fire and winds - [[DramaticWind the Prince's outfit]] and indeed the aesthetic flow of the entire game is reminiscent of this (admittedly that might be stretching things a bit). One of his roles was defending the source of waters from the demons of Angra Mainyu (Ahriman): protecting the fertile grounds? And, on the subject of fertile grounds...
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[[WMG:Elika is Anahita]]
Anahita (Nahid) was the goddess of water, and seen as an innocent and pure figure, and identified by the Greeks as Artemis. As the source and guardian of the waters she was also the source of all life: [[{{Dune}} from water does all life begin]]. She sustained and fertilized the rivers of the world, and associated particularly with plants and healing; she was depicted as a beautiful maiden wearing golden earrings and embroidery (and also otter furs - it's not a complete match). Elika is presented as a very pure figure (and as the Prince points out repeatedly, she's innocent and very naive); she heals the fertile grounds blighted by Angra Mainyu's corruption, turning the blackened rock into verdant fields.
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[[WMG:Ubisoft is setting up a "Rage Against the Heavens" plot]]
The Prince, based on his dialogue with Elika, is a fundamentally selfish character. Most of his adventuring has been done in order to get rich and live in comfort. Time after time he gets his hands on a fortune, only to lose it. He has no moral objection to looting the dead, since they can't use the treasure and he can. He has no particular use for Ormazd, and doesn't actually believe in Elika's cause.

Considering the Prince's selfishness, the only reason he's helping Elika in the first place is so he can get out of the land of Ahura, find his donkey, and continue on his way. However, in the course of his journey with Elika, he comes to care for her. He might even love her, though he does not come out and say it.

So, when Elika dies after binding Ahriman, it seems only natural that the Prince might see freeing Ahriman to save Elika as an acceptable trade. After all, Ormazd threw Elika under a bus as soon as he got what he wanted, so why should the Prince care about either of them? As far as the Prince is concerned, Ormazd should fight his own battles and leave humanity out of it.

[[WMG:The Prince Will Become Corrupted in The Sequel]]
[[AsYouKnow As we know]], the Corrupted are those who made a [[DealWithTheDevil pact with Ahirman]], which is why they're {{Cosmic Horror}}s now. From that, [[LoveMakesYouEvil it isn't that much of a stretch to say]] that the Prince now qualifies, and from what we know of Ahirman, he'll jump at the oppertunity. Note that [[DarkIsNotEvil this doesn't preclude the Prince from being a hero]], just a walking reminder of [[TheAtoner a thoughtless action]].
* This would also provide the Prince with additional powers after [[spoiler:Elika leaves him in]] the epilogue. What about having the corruption save the Prince ''instead'' of Elika when he falls, traps throwing him back, or even teleporting like the Alchemist? Using corruption tentacles for grappling hooks in place of the double jump?

[[WMG:Ahriman is the darkness in Alan Wake.]]
After Ormazd's forces gain enough power, they manage to push him away from the old world and in desperation he withdraws to unknown lands where no one knows of him. Dark stories, which happens to be his true source of power, are not shared in these lands; thus, he grows weak and goes into a deep sleep. The people of the old world reach these lands thousands of years later, and without knowing, a gifted poet among them, a powerful story teller and a follower of darkness like all of his colleagues, tells a story on Ahriman's nest, finally waking him up.

[[WMG:The Prince is already Corrupted by the beginning of the story]]
In fact, he is the most powerful of the Corrupted, being even a better combatant than The Warrior, more cunning than The Alchemist, more agile than The Hunter, and his powers of illusion make even The Concubine look pathetic, allowing him to hide his dark presence from even the princess of the Ahuras! The entire game was an EvilPlan to free Ahriman, and it succeeded.\\
Edit: It just hit me! Doesn't "The Prince" actually sound an awful lot like the name of a Corrupted? It makes even more sense now!
* No, it doesn't. IF his real goal was to free Ahriman, he should have also killed Elika, the person who had the power to seal Ahriman and possibly kill him.
** Not saying I agree with this WMG, but the trope LoveRedeems exists for a reason. Assuming this WMG is true: The Prince helps Elika because he wants to eliminate his rivals, the other Corrupted. Doing so also gained him Elika's trust, meaning that once the other Corrupted were eliminated, he could easily stab her in the back. She'd never see it coming, and therefore he wouldn't have to worry about getting into a fight with her and having to contend with her powers. After that was done, there would be no one to oppose Ahriman, so the Prince could safely break all of the seals. However, over the course of the game, he fell in love with Elika. At the end, when she sacrificed herself -- something he didn't see coming -- he still freed his master, fulfilling his duty, but only if Elika could be brought back as well.

** Not saying I agree with this WMG, but the trope LoveRedeems exists for a reason. He freed his master, fulfilling that condition, but only if Elika could be brought back as well.

In fact, he is the most powerful of the Corrupted, being even a better combatant than The Warrior, more cunning than The Alchemist, more agile than The Hunter, and his powers of illusion make even The Concubine look pathetic, allowing him to hide his dark presence from even the princess of the Ahuras! The entire game was an EvilPlan to free Ahriman, and it succeeded.

In fact, he is the most powerful of the Corrupted, being even a better combatant than The Warrior, more cunning than The Alchemist, more agile than The Hunter, and his powers of illusion make even The Concubine look pathetic, allowing him to hide his dark presence from even the princess of the Ahuras! The entire game was a XanatosGambit to free Ahriman, and it succeeded.

[[WMG: All of the Corrupted were either part of Elika's family, or part of the royal court]]
Elika becomes especially distraught when fighting the Corrupted, despite the fact that they are clearly evil and need to be killed in order to heal the land. In fact, Elika takes The Prince's habit of taunting the Corrupted quite personally. The most obvious is of course the Concubine, who is Elika's mother (She calls herself the Queen, she is found in the portion of the world that Elika says her mother loved...), The Warrior is probably Elika's grandfather, The Hunter is likely to be her brother, and the Alchemist is probably the court vizier (which is also why Elika doesn't particularly get upset when The Prince beats him). That's why Elika is so bummed when her dad [[spoiler: becomes The Mourning King, since it just proves that her family is tainted]].

[[WMG: The Prince is Ormazd]]
It's been discussed on the Just Bugs Me page that the ending of the newest PoP may not be bad, but rather, a [[spoiler: nessesary evil, as Ahriman's prison is suggested to be failing due to a lack of regular maintenance and the fact that even if the Prince hadn't broken the seal, someone, someday, would eventually do it again, with Elika long gone to work in stopping him.]] Thus, the Prince has only done what needs to be done. It's a bit of an inversion of MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning, in that the hero causing the apocalypse is only the beginning, a necessary step to beating Ahriman for good. Who would want to beat back Ahriman for good, quite possibly doing anything necessary to make it happen? His brother and rival god, of course. Elika mentions that Ormazd eventually just up and left...to go ride around on a gold-carrying donkey, perhaps?

[[WMG: The Prince is Verethragna]]

[[WMG: Elika is Anahita]]

[[WMG: Ubisoft is setting up a "Rage Against the Heavens" plot]]

[[WMG: The Prince Will Become Corrupted in The Sequel]]

[[WMG: Sands of Time Prince's [[DarkerAndEdgier Generic Rage]] persona was the Dahaka's fault]]

[[WMG: The Prince already made a DealWithTheDevil]]

[[WMG: All of the Princes are related.]]

[[WMG: If Sand Monsters are near the Dagger of Time, they are immortal.]]

[[WMG: Ahriman is the darkness in Alan Wake.]]

[[WMG: We've been going backwards through the series]]

[[WMG: The Prince is already Corrupted by the beginning of the story]]

[[WMG: The games take place in the AssassinsCreed universe]]

[[WMG: Malik from Forgotten Sands is The Mourning King]]

[[WMG: The Dahaka is a sand monster]]

* Actually, water and sand appear to be symbolically opposed elements in the PoP-verse. Sand represents time and entropy; water represents life and renewal.