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The Ancient Hero's portrait appears to have Alder's Poké Ball necklace, and Poké Balls were literally just introduced to Hisui in PLA. The Ancient Hero was obviously around way before that point. So maybe Alder was sent back in time after he retired from being Champion, which would explain having the Poké Ball necklace before Poké Balls.Also, Alder is a Champion who focuses on the companionship of his Pokémon rather than battle prowess, so he'd be uniquely equipped to unite the original Noble Pokémon against Arceus. This is similar to the player being sent back thanks to their unusual knack for catching and battling 'mons as well as their ability to UnnecessaryCombatRoll and [[InstantExpert instantly learn to play the flute.]]

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The Ancient Hero's portrait appears to have Alder's Poké Ball necklace, and Poké Balls were literally just introduced to Hisui in PLA. The Ancient Hero was obviously around way before that point. So maybe Alder was sent back in time after he retired from being Champion, which would explain having the Poké Ball necklace before Poké Balls. Also, Alder is a Champion who focuses on the companionship of his Pokémon rather than battle prowess, so he'd be uniquely equipped to unite the original Noble Pokémon against Arceus. This is similar to the player being sent back thanks to their unusual knack for catching and battling 'mons as well as their ability to UnnecessaryCombatRoll and [[InstantExpert instantly learn to play the flute.]]
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The design of Jubilife Village, most notably Canala Avenue and the river bisecting it, point to it actually being the Hisuian version of ''Canalave'' City, not Jubilife. My guess is: Jufilife Village swelled with immigrants until it spilled out into the Obsidian Fieldlands, eventually splitting the town into two and naming the original site after Canala Avenue, with the more populous eastern town keeping the name "Jubilife." This would explain the discrepancy in Jubilife Village's location between PLA and DPP, especially considering the Sandgem Flats and Lake Verity.

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The design of Jubilife Village, most notably Canala Avenue and the river bisecting it, point to it actually being the Hisuian version of ''Canalave'' City, not Jubilife. My guess is: Jufilife Jubilife Village swelled with immigrants until it spilled out into the Obsidian Fieldlands, eventually splitting the town into two and naming the original site after Canala Avenue, with the more populous eastern town keeping the name "Jubilife." This would explain the discrepancy in Jubilife Village's location between PLA and DPP, especially considering the Sandgem Flats and Lake Verity.
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[[WMG: Jubilife is Canalave]]
The design of Jubilife Village, most notably Canala Avenue and the river bisecting it, point to it actually being the Hisuian version of ''Canalave'' City, not Jubilife. My guess is: Jufilife Village swelled with immigrants until it spilled out into the Obsidian Fieldlands, eventually splitting the town into two and naming the original site after Canala Avenue, with the more populous eastern town keeping the name "Jubilife." This would explain the discrepancy in Jubilife Village's location between PLA and DPP, especially considering the Sandgem Flats and Lake Verity.
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[[WMG: Alder is the Ancient Hero transported from Modern Unova to Ancient Hisui]]
The Ancient Hero's portrait appears to have Alder's Poké Ball necklace, and Poké Balls were literally just introduced to Hisui in PLA. The Ancient Hero was obviously around way before that point. So maybe Alder was sent back in time after he retired from being Champion, which would explain having the Poké Ball necklace before Poké Balls.Also, Alder is a Champion who focuses on the companionship of his Pokémon rather than battle prowess, so he'd be uniquely equipped to unite the original Noble Pokémon against Arceus. This is similar to the player being sent back thanks to their unusual knack for catching and battling 'mons as well as their ability to UnnecessaryCombatRoll and [[InstantExpert instantly learn to play the flute.]]
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* May have some validity since Scarlet/Violet's DLC has [[Spoiler: Perrin with a Hisuian Growlithe and her quest ends with a new form of Ursaluna in Teal Mask; amd Hisuian Quilfish and Kleavor are in the Terrarium in Indigo Disc.]]

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* May have some validity since Scarlet/Violet's DLC has [[Spoiler: Perrin [[spoiler:Perrin with a Hisuian Growlithe and her quest ends with a new form of Ursaluna in Teal Mask; amd Hisuian Quilfish and Kleavor are in the Terrarium in Indigo Disc.]]

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* May have some validity since Scarlet/Violet's DLC has [[Spoiler: Perrin with a Hisuian Growlithe and her quest ends with a new form of Ursaluna in Teal Mask; amd Hisuian Quilfish and Kleavor are in the Terrarium in Indigo Disc.]]


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[[WMG: Alder is the Ancient Hero transported from Ancient Hisui to Modern Unova]]
According to an interview with Yusuke Ohmura and Ken Sugimori in a 2010 article of the Japanese magazine "Nintendo Dream", the reason Alder keeps all his Pokéballs on him is because he never figured out how to operate the Pokémon Storage System. If he was transported from before Pokéballs were a thing, even after learning how they work he wouldn't understand the modern technology of what to do with them afterwards. Also, he lost his initial Volcarona to illness meaning it may not have even been in its ball or he didn't know how to recall it.
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[[WMG: Melli's Pokemon dislike him because he favors Lord Electrode over them]]
He used to take legitimately good care of his Pokemon, but upon becoming a warden, he began neglecting them in favor of his beloved Noble Pokemon. The others resent him for it, which is why, among other things, his Golbat doesn't evolve.

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[[WMG: Melli's Pokemon Pokémon dislike him because he favors Lord Electrode over them]]
He used to take legitimately good care of his Pokemon, Pokémon, but upon becoming a warden, he began neglecting them in favor of his beloved Noble Pokemon.Pokémon. The others resent him for it, which is why, among other things, his Golbat doesn't evolve.
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[[WMG: Melli's Pokemon dislike him because he favors Lord Electrode over them]]
He used to take legitimately good care of his Pokemon, but upon becoming a warden, he began neglecting them in favor of his beloved Noble Pokemon. The others resent him for it, which is why, among other things, his Golbat doesn't evolve.

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** Jossed: [[spoiler:They do however gain a proper evolution for ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' in Annihilape, which has similar stat distributions but with a higher focus on Attack.]]

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** Jossed: [[spoiler:They Jossed. They do however gain a proper evolution for ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' in Annihilape, which has similar stat distributions but with a higher focus on Attack.]]


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** Jossed: [[spoiler:They do however gain a proper evolution for ''VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet'' in Annihilape, which has similar stat distributions but with a higher focus on Attack.]]
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* Confirmed. Perrin, from The Teal Mask DLC, is confirmed to be a descendant of Hisui's Diamond Clan-- most likely Adaman's descendant, judging from her looks.
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[[WMG: Ingo is [[MyOwnGrampa his own ancestor]]

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[[WMG: Ingo is [[MyOwnGrampa his own ancestor]]ancestor]]]]
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[[WMG: Ingo is [[MyOwnGrampa his own ancestor]]
He settles down with some woman in Hisui after ''Arceus'''s events and has children with her. Several hundreds of years down the line, his many-times-great-grandchild has twin boys, the older of which they decide to name after their distant ancestor.
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** ''Pokémon Legends: Regigigas'' - You witness how Regigigas created the Hoenn Regi Trio.

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** ''Pokémon Legends: Regigigas'' - You witness how Regigigas created the Hoenn Regi Trio.Trio, along with Regieleki and Regidrago.

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* Paldea:
''Pokémon Legends: Terapagos''- While the Hidden Treasure of Area Zero DLC for SV has only been announced as of this part being added in here, it shouldn't been too much of a stretch to say that a Legends game about Terapagos being made long after SV could happen, especially with whatever lore we get from the Pokemon inquestion.
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People used to be shorter in the past, so when the player character arrived to the past, people assumed they were "about 15" because that's the average height of 15-year-olds during their era. They also might asume they happen to be baby-faced.

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People used to be shorter in the past, so when the player character arrived to the past, people assumed they were "about 15" because that's the average height of 15-year-olds during their era. They also might asume they happen to be baby-faced. The protagonist goes along with it because that's the easiest way to do the mission encomended by Arceus.
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[[WMG: The Player Character is younger than 15]]
People used to be shorter in the past, so when the player character arrived to the past, people assumed they were "about 15" because that's the average height of 15-year-olds during their era. They also might asume they happen to be baby-faced.
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[[WMG: Ingo arrived in Hisui through an Ultra Wormhole]]
Just like Anabel and Mohn, he has no memories of his life before arriving in his new location, and its doubtful Arceus sent him there. Sure, we don't have proof that Ultra Wormholes can do that, but we don't have proof that they can't either.

[[WMG: The Player Character is ConvenientlyAnOrphan]]
To avoid any FridgeHorror of how his family reacted to his disappearance.
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[[WMG: Akari/Rei is the player character's ancestor]]

''Legends: Arceus'' is very big on using [=NPCs=] that look similar to their modern day counterparts, implying that they may be distantly related. Since the default versions of Rei and Akari basically look like genderbent versions of each other, it's likely that they are the ancestors of the player character.
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* In VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon, it is specifically mentioned that [[spoiler: Lusamine looks quite young for her age]], and in this game, [[spoiler: it's implied that Volo and Cogita are of a race that live significantly longer than normal humans. As such, Lusamine being a descendant of Volo would explain her appearance.]]

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As mentioned above, Giratina is described as Eldritch. So is it out of the question that Giratina could incite people to madness, like other Eldritch Horrors? It's possible that Volo encountered Giratina by accident, and the Renegade saw a kindred spirit. So it proceeded to reach out to Volo to share its intentions, and Volo started to ''GoMadFromTheRevelation'' as a result. That said, while Giratina didn't ''intentionally'' incite madness in Volo, it was still all too happy to go along with his plans if it meant getting revenge on its creator. (Volo's induced madness wore off a few weeks after Spear Pillar. It was not a fun experience to come out of that state.)

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As mentioned above, Giratina is described as Eldritch. So is it out of the question that Giratina could incite people to madness, like other Eldritch Horrors? It's possible that Volo encountered Giratina by accident, and the Renegade saw a kindred spirit. So it proceeded to reach out to Volo to share its intentions, and Volo started to ''GoMadFromTheRevelation'' GoMadFromTheRevelation as a result. That said, while Giratina didn't ''intentionally'' incite madness in Volo, it was still all too happy to go along with his plans if it meant getting revenge on its creator. (Volo's induced madness wore off a few weeks after Spear Pillar. It was not a fun experience to come out of that state.)
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[[WMG: Alternatively to THAT alternative, Volo is BrainwashedAndCrazy.]]
Or [[DemonicPossession possessed]] or something. Giratina is controlling his mind and forcing him into his evil deeds.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Volo has access to the Distortion World.]] ]]
Hence his confidence he will get his revenge even if it takes centuries. The Distortion World (the universe Giratina is native to) is a place where time doesn't flow and both space and gravity doesn't work like they're supposed to. One could cheat the reaper and avoid aging so long as they're within it. This could be one of the reasons why Cyrus in ''Platinum'' stays there, and [[spoiler:due to his connection with Giratina Volo could wait out to the present. He could even perform a VillainTeamup with Cyrus one day.]]
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There is another possibility where Dawn would be Adaman and Akari's descendant whereas Lucas would be Irida and Rei's descendant. Also, Barry would be descendant of both sets of couples as one of Adaman and Akari's children marries one of Irida and Rei's children. This is strongly evident in Pokemon Adventures manga as Platinum Berlitz who is based on Dawn has Adaman's indigo blue hair, sharp golden brown eyes, and level-headed personality whereas Diamond who is based on Lucas has Irida's blue eyes.

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* There is another possibility where Dawn would be Adaman and Akari's descendant whereas Lucas would be Irida and Rei's descendant. Also, Barry would be descendant of both sets of couples as one of Adaman and Akari's children marries one of Irida and Rei's children. This is strongly evident in Pokemon Adventures manga as Platinum Berlitz who is based on Dawn has Adaman's indigo blue hair, sharp golden brown eyes, and level-headed personality whereas Diamond who is based on Lucas has Irida's blue eyes.
** Adaman and Irida are implied to be adults and Akari and Rei are 15. It's highly unlikely that would even be ''suggested'' in a Nintendo game.

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There is another possibility where Dawn would be Adaman and Akari's descendant whereas Lucas would be Irida and Rei's descendant. Also, Barry would be descendant of both sets of couples as one of Adaman and Akari's children marries one of Irida and Rei's children. This is strongly evident in Pokemon Adventures manga as Platinum Berlitz who is based on Dawn has Adaman's indigo blue hair, sharp golden brown eyes, and level-headed personality whereas Diamond who is based on Lucas has Irida's blue eyes.



[[WMG: Adaman and Irida have a thing for each other but neither realize it.]]
They're rather belligerent with one another at the start and even continue to be so later when their clans reconcile. Even before that reconciliation, their clan members showed remarkable ability to get along and even Adaman notices their problems might be more personal and less clan based. Logical conclusion is that this is as BelligerentSexualTension as the Pokemon franchise is willing to depict.
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* Perhaps in a Legends: Unova game, the player will [[spoiler:encounter a tent in roughly the same area as modern-day Undella Town. Upon entering, they'll be greeted by a familiar theme, and Volo will promptly curse them for reminding him of "''that trainer'' who stood in my way ''last time''..."]]
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As mentioned above, Giratina is described as Eldritch. So is it out of the question that Giratina could incite people to madness, like other Eldritch Horrors? It's possible that Volo encountered Giratina by accident, and the Renegade saw a kindred spirit. So i proceeded to reach out to Volo to share its intentions, and Volo started to ''GoMadFromTheRevelation'' as a result. That said, while Giratina didn't ''intentionally'' incite madness in Volo, it was still all too happy to go along with his plans if it meant getting revenge on its creator. (Volo's induced madness wore off a few weeks after Spear Pillar. It was not a fun experience to come out of that state.)

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As mentioned above, Giratina is described as Eldritch. So is it out of the question that Giratina could incite people to madness, like other Eldritch Horrors? It's possible that Volo encountered Giratina by accident, and the Renegade saw a kindred spirit. So i it proceeded to reach out to Volo to share its intentions, and Volo started to ''GoMadFromTheRevelation'' as a result. That said, while Giratina didn't ''intentionally'' incite madness in Volo, it was still all too happy to go along with his plans if it meant getting revenge on its creator. (Volo's induced madness wore off a few weeks after Spear Pillar. It was not a fun experience to come out of that state.)



* I don't think so; Laventon is a more likely Leon and Hop ancestor since he has the same skin tone and is stated to be from Galar.

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* I don't think so; Laventon is a more likely Leon and Hop Hop's ancestor since he has the same skin tone and is stated to be from Galar.
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(Perhaps they will have [[spoiler:Emmet appear in the [[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon next Mystery Dungeon game]] as an NPC: tuned into a Pokémon, and just as amnesiac as his brother.]] Or perhaps he and Elesa will appear in [[VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet ScarVio]], looking for [[spoiler:Ingo.]]

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(Perhaps they will have [[spoiler:Emmet appear in the [[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon next Mystery Dungeon game]] as an NPC: tuned turned into a Pokémon, and just as amnesiac as his brother.]] Or perhaps he and Elesa will appear in [[VideoGame/PokemonScarletAndViolet ScarVio]], looking for [[spoiler:Ingo.]]
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** Probably confirmed. [[spoiler:They even have a very similar team in Volo's boss fight]]. However it could also be [[spoiler:Cognita.]]

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