History WMG / PeterPan

[[WMG: ''Peter Pan'' takes place in the same universe as ''Disney/MaryPoppins'']]
And takes place a year or so later. Or at least, the 2003 film does. If you look at the men who run the bank when George Darling is working there, it's a group of little old men, and one younger, dark-haired man. Which is how it ends in ''Mary Poppins'', with the dark-haired Mr Banks joining on as a manager with the old Dawes men. ''Disney/MaryPoppins'' was also shot to take place in 1910 (according to Mr Banks), and ''Peter Pan'' is usually shown to take place in 1911, when the original play was written. You could also make an argument that Mary Poppins is herself a denizen of Never Neverland, which is how she stays unaging (even though this usually only applies to Peter), and maybe even how she has magic.

In ''Peter Pan in Scarlet'', Hook claims that if you don't have a shadow, you can't fly. This directly contradicts the original novel, where Peter seems to be flying about just fine after losing his shadow. ContinuitySnarl, then? Not necessarily. In ''Peter Pan in Kenshington Gardens'' it's established that if you ''doubt'' your ability to fly you won't be able to do it. Hook may just have made up the "shadow" claim to sow doubt in the children's hearts, to stop them from flying away. It's not like it would be out of character for him to try something like that.

You reach Neverland by flying towards "the first star on the right", so logically it follows that this "realm" is in fact a planet orbiting that star (fairy dust enables not just Main/{{Flight}} but FasterThanLightTravel and BreathingInSpace), and therefore the people living on it are technically HumanAliens... and the Darlings and the Lost Boys are technically [[AlienAbduction abductees]].

[[WMG: Elaborating on the previous post: Pan and Hook are two [[TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost True Fae]], battling within the shared Realm of NeverNever Land]]

* Doesn't the book say Wendy is 11 or 12 (it's one of the two, I think it's said she's 12) or so, and Peter is "just her size"? I think Wendy is meant to be 11/12, John is 8, and Michael is 2, but I can't think where I got those numbers from.

[[WMG: The Residents of Neverland are ''Technically'' Aliens]]
You reach Neverland by flying towards "the first star on the right", so logically it follows that this "realm" is in fact a planet orbiting that star (fairy dust enables not just Main/{{Flight}} but FasterThanLightTravel and BreathingInSpace), and therefore the people living on it are technically aliens... and the Darlings and the Lost Boys are technically [[AlienAbduction abductees]].

Hana Mana Ganda, Hana Mana Ganda, we translate for you: Hana means '''what''', mana means '''and''', ganda means '''that too'''.

And takes place a year or so later. Or at least, the 2003 film does. If you look at the men who run the bank when George Darling is working there, it's a group of little old men, and one younger, dark-haired man. Which is how it ends in ''Mary Poppins'', with the dark-haired Mr Banks joining on as a manager with the old Dawes men. ''Disney/MaryPoppins'' was also shot to take place in 1910 (according to Mr Banks), and ''Peter Pan'' is usually shown to take place in 1911, when the original play was written. You could also make an argument that Mary Poppins is herself a denizen of Never Neverland, which is how she stays unaging (even though this usually only applies to Peter), and maybe even how she has magic.

And takes place a year or so later. Or at least, the 2003 film does. If you look at the men who run the bank when George Darling is working there, it's a group of little old men, and one younger, dark-haired man. Which is how it ends in _Mary Poppins_, with the dark-haired Mr Banks joining on as a manager with the old Dawes men. ''Disney/MaryPoppins'' was also shot to take place in 1910 (according to Mr Banks), and ''Peter Pan'' is usually shown to take place in 1911, when the original play was written. You could also make an argument that Mary Poppins is herself a denizen of Never Neverland, which is how she stays unaging (even though this usually only applies to Peter), and maybe even how she has magic.

Hook was able to get out of the crock's belly by cutting through his belly, killing him.

Nether Rufio or any of the other boys in the movie Hook are so much as mentioned, suggesting that they simply weren’t there at the time. Also, Rufio seemed to be the oldest of the boys from Hook, as Peter seemed the oldest before.

He just made it up to spread to people as the truth, but like others it's a big lie with some possible truths mixed in.

If you want to "fly to a magic land" you have to think happy thoughts.

* Peter Pan, ''grow up''? C'mon, this ain't ''Film/{{Hook}}'', y'know.

(Mostly this applies to the 2003 live action movie.) Peter Pan is a boy who wishes to never grow up. More than that, he completely rejects even the very idea of adult hood and having to one day leave his boyhood behind. Somehow, Peter's incrediblely strong desire to remain a boy forever, and his total denial of all reality, creates a fantastical Lotus Eater style alternate dimension, a world reflecting all the escapist fantasies that a typical english boy of that time might have. A world he subconsiously created for himself in order to run away from reality. This is why, in the film, Neverland's flow of time and weather react to Peter's presence and his emotional state, because the world *literally* is the embodiment of his subconcious mind, and changes to reflect it. The pirates are either A) personifications of Peter's own subconcious ideas of what adults are like or B) regular humans imprisoned in Neverland by Peter's desires. Either way, they have no choice but to play the role of antagonists to Peter's fantastical adventures, never able to escape or do anything else as long as he and his world exist. This is why Captain Hook is so obsessed with killing Peter and why he states that killing Peter will "Set him free". Only by killing Peter pan can Hook and the Pirates be free of the prison that is Neverland and the roles they are forced to play.

[[WMG: Captain Hook was responsible for the death of [[TheLittleMermaid Queen Athena, Ariel's mom]].]]
In the prequel to The Little Mermaid, the cove where Ariel's mother is kidnapped looks a lot like the mermaid cove in Neverland. And the ship responsible flies a pirate flag. Who's the local pirate of Neverland? Captain Hook. Ergo, Captain Hook indirectly caused the events of TheLittleMermaid.

Although most/all productions make them be about 8-11, but judging by the fact that [[ToyShip Wendy]]/Tinker Bell/[[IndianMadian Tiger Lily]] have crushes on him, its more likely their all 13-15. Peter has all his milk teeth because he is still a child mentally.

Nether Rufio or any of the other boys in the movie Hook are so much as mentioned, suggesting that they simply weren’t there at the time. Also, Rufio seemed to be the oldest of the boys from Hook, as Peter seemed the oldest before.

All of the other Lost Boys accompanied Wendy and her brothers back to London. Peter ventured to London out of lonesomeness and chose to stay as the story goes.

The next boy to enter Neverland was Rufio. He may have entered only days after or several years since Peter's departure. He became the leader of the next bunch of lost boys, explaining his words that “I've got Pan's Sword, I'm the Pan now!” Rufio seemed to have little or no regard for Tinker Bell, suggesting that he'd never been under Peter's influence and never respected her. It also gives more ground to Rufio's hostility towards Peter, seeing him as a challenge to the position that is rightfully his.

* Alternately, Peter Pan is another incarnation of Haruhi.

** Smee also manages to escape Neverland after the Lost Boys spare his life, apparently even doing so without his ship.

* Confirmed by the original book. Neverland is different for each individual child. It's not even always an island, although in most cases it is.

[[WMG: Peter Pan is a [[TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Kokiri.]]]]

*** The novel is a little vague on whether ''all'' the Lost Boys grow up while in Neverland, or if this is just some individual cases, but it's at least mentioned that it does occasionally happen, upon which Peter either kicks them out or outright kills them (it's never completely made clear which it is).

* This would've made for an insanely awesome episode.

{{2012}} will be brought on by the Four Horsemen of the Acoaplasye while Peter Pan and Captain Hook can only look on, horrified with what is happening. They will team up against the Four Horsemen but be repelled by the Angel of Death.

** If J.M. Barrie's ''Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens'' is any indication, it did.

...or at least one of her female ancestors. Consider:

* Mamie has a "fairy wedding" with Peter without being aware of it. This created a mysterious bond which tied Peter to Mamie and her descendants--that's why he came to Wendy's house in the first place, though he'd nearly forgotten Mamie.

The next boy to enter Neverland was Rufio. He may have entered only days after or several years since Peter's departure. He became the leader of the next bunch of lost boys, explaining his words that “I've got Pan's Sword, I'm the Pan now!” Rufio seemed to have little or no regard for Tinkerbell, suggesting that he'd never been under Peter's influence and never respected her. It also gives more ground to Rufio's hostility towards Peter, seeing him as a challenge to the position that is rightfully his.

Although most/all productions make them be about 8-11, but judging by the fact that [[ToyShip Wendy]]/Tinkerbell/[[IndianMadian Tiger Lily]] have crushes on him, its more likely their all 13-15. Peter has all his milk teeth because he is still a child mentally.

Think about it: they look and act so much alike, always think they have a handle on things even when they don't, are a little pompous but well-meaning and affectionate deep down. Aunt Millicent's not a maiden aunt; she wears those black matronly dresses and hangs out with the Darlings because she was widowed long ago. She also sadly misplaced her infant son, who found himself in Neverland (since they're both so flighty and incompetent). Tinkerbell just reunited them at the end.

* And he wants to be ginger! Only it will be the first time since his first rencarnation.

** [[{{Hook}} But Peter's adult form is Robin Williams, and Captain Hook is Dustin Hoffman, NOT Williams!]]