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Peter is the latest savior and emperor of [[NeverendingStory Fantasia]] and currently possesses AURYN. His whims and wishes are granted constantly, hence his poor memory. However, he found a loophole that would keep him Emperor forever -- he travels to the real world from time to time, stealing children from their bedrooms, and trades his wishes for ''their'' memories instead of his own. As long as he keeps stealing children, Peter can remain all-powerful indefinitely.

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Peter is the latest savior and emperor of [[NeverendingStory [[Literature/TheNeverendingStory Fantasia]] and currently possesses AURYN. His whims and wishes are granted constantly, hence his poor memory. However, he found a loophole that would keep him Emperor forever -- he travels to the real world from time to time, stealing children from their bedrooms, and trades his wishes for ''their'' memories instead of his own. As long as he keeps stealing children, Peter can remain all-powerful indefinitely.
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* This would've made for an insanely awesome episode.




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** If J.M. Barrie's ''Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens'' is any indication, it did.


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[[WMG: Mamie Mannering from ''Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens'' grew up to be Wendy's mother...]]
...or at least one of her female ancestors. Consider:
* "Mamie" can be a nickname for either "Mary" (Wendy's mother's name) or "Margaret" (Wendy's granddaughter's name, and so quite possibly a family name).
* There's some serious GenerationXerox going on in the Wendy line, and Mamie has nearly the same dialogue with Peter as Wendy does...the fairies in Kensington Gardens even built a house around her!
* Mamie has a "fairy wedding" with Peter without being aware of it. This created a mysterious bond which tied Peter to Mamie and her descendants--that's why he came to Wendy's house in the first place, though he'd nearly forgotten Mamie.
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[[WMG: Captain Hook is a vampire.]]
There are clues that point to Captain Hook being close to two hundred years old. (Contrary to popular belief, Neverland doesn't magically stop everyone from aging - fairies live out full lifespans and die of old age in approximately or even under a year, and it's made clear that the Lost Boys do grow and age - Peter "thins them out" if they start looking like they're growing up.) That said, Hook has some other... peculiarities about him. He is described as looking "cadaverous" (ie, corpselike), his eyes glow red when he's angry, and his blood is unusually dark in color. All of these would make sense if he were an undead vampire.
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* The book does support half of this - Peter tells Wendy that he left home and stayed away "for moons and moons and moons" until he came back to find the window barred and his mother with another little boy. Whether or not this actually happened is questionable, but Peter believes it did.
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* And he wants to be ginger! Only it will be the first time since his first rencarnation.

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Although most/all productions make them be about 8-11, but judging by the fact that [[ToyShip Wendy]]/Tinkerbell/[[IndianMadian Tigar Lily]] have crushes on him, its more likely their all 13-15. Peter has all his milk teeth because he is still a child mentally.

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Although most/all productions make them be about 8-11, but judging by the fact that [[ToyShip Wendy]]/Tinkerbell/[[IndianMadian Tigar Tiger Lily]] have crushes on him, its more likely their all 13-15. Peter has all his milk teeth because he is still a child mentally.




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* In the Disney version, Peter looks about 14-15, with Wendy at 13-14.


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[[WMG: Peter Pan is ''not'' native to Never Land]]
He somehow discovered Never Land after running away from home under similar circumstances to Wendy being forced to leave the nursery.
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They're all stuck in a StableTimeLoop, which would work nicely except that time has no meaning on the island--which makes it more of a GroundhogDay thing. Everyone who comes in does so at a certain age and is stuck there. Hence Hook is an adult, Tiger Lilly's a child as are the Lost Boys and Pan himself.

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They're all stuck in a StableTimeLoop, which would work nicely except that time has no meaning on the island--which makes it more of a GroundhogDay GroundhogDayLoop thing. Everyone who comes in does so at a certain age and is stuck there. Hence Hook is an adult, Tiger Lilly's a child as are the Lost Boys and Pan himself.
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** Actually, jossed in the original novel, where children do grow up at the very least at a pace where Peter can notice and [[JerkAss abandon them to the pirates.]]
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[[WMG: Someday Neverland will collapse]]
{{2012}} will be brought on by the Four Horsemen of the Acoaplasye while Peter Pan and Captain Hook can only look on, horrified with what is happening. They will team up against the Four Horsemen but be repelled by the Angel of Death.

[[WMG: The true nature of Neverland is...]]
A DyingDream of young Wendy Darling, leukimia patient. She longs to meet her new baby brother and so imagines an adventure in the future for them to go on with their then-puppy dog and an imagined extra brother. She also makes a boy she has half-heard of from her mother and father's whisperings, Peter-a boy who caught leukimia before her. As she dies, her mother tells her Peter will guide her into the afterlife. Her unpleasant uncle is {{Flanderised}} as the villain in her dream. Mr Smee is a well-known beggar of the streets of London. Tiger Lily is the child of the widower boss of Mr Darling, whom sometimes comes round for dinner parties, and Wendy's best friend. She made the Neverbird up from depictions of tropical birds. What? You knew it was going to happen-just be glad I didn't make Wendy the victim of a serial killer.
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[[WMG: Elaborating on the previous post: Pan and Hook are two [[{{Ptitlen4fcro73tb02}} True Fae]], battling within the shared Realm of NeverNever Land]]

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[[WMG: Elaborating on the previous post: Pan and Hook are two [[{{Ptitlen4fcro73tb02}} [[TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost True Fae]], battling within the shared Realm of NeverNever Land]]
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* Jossed in the official sequel (ie approved by GOSCH) when, the reason children grow up is because they look ahead.
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[[WMG: Never Never Land was an early 1900s Kids Next Door experiment into halting the aging process.]]
It was created to test a cure for adulthood; the result being that the children were too busy playing with each other to actually send in their experimental data to Moon Base. Thus, KND considers Never Never Land a failed experiment, having received no contact from the operatives there.
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[[WMG: Peter Pan grows up to become [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]

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[[WMG: Peter Pan grows up to become [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]
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** Or something similar to it.
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* TheBermudaTriangle, perhaps?
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[[WMG: There is a portal to Neverland somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean in the early 1700s.]]
That's how period pirates keep winding up there, even when kids from TheEighties start joining the Lost Boys.
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[[WMG: Children in Neverland ''do'' grow up, just at a much slower pace.]]
In Neverland, time moves more slowly, but is perceived at the same pace as it is on Earth. For example, the Darling children are in Neverland for three or four days, but only a few hours have passed in London.
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[[WMG: Rufio was destined to be Peter's true successor as leader of the Lost Boys.]]

Nether Rufio or any of the other boys in the movie Hook are so much as mentioned, suggesting that they simply weren’t there at the time. Also, Rufio seemed to be the oldest of the boys from Hook, as Peter seemed the oldest before.

All of the other Lost Boys accompanied Wendy and her brothers back to London. Peter ventured to London out of lonesomeness and chose to stay as the story goes.

The next boy to enter Neverland was Rufio. He may have entered only days after or several years since Peter's departure. He became the leader of the next bunch of lost boys, explaining his words that “I've got Pan's Sword, I'm the Pan now!” Rufio seemed to have little or no regard for Tinkerbell, suggesting that he'd never been under Peter's influence and never respected her. It also gives more ground to Rufio's hostility towards Peter, seeing him as a challenge to the position that is rightfully his.
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** Or, alternatively, James grew up into a successful adult that Peter's parents were proud of, and when Peter found out, he tricked James into coming to Neverland, destroyed his life and refashioned him as the realm's villain out of jealousy.
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* latter-day adaptations pretty consistantly push Peter and Wendy's ages to about 12-13. In the book, Peter is described as being smaller than any of the other Lost Boys, so one does indeed get the impression that they're supposed to be something like 8 or so.
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[[WMG: Aunt Millicent (in the 2003 film) really *is* Slightly's mother.]]
Think about it: they look and act so much alike, always think they have a handle on things even when they don't, are a little pompous but well-meaning and affectionate deep down. Aunt Millicent's not a maiden aunt; she wears those black matronly dresses and hangs out with the Darlings because she was widowed long ago. She also sadly misplaced her infant son, who found himself in Neverland (since they're both so flighty and incompetent). Tinkerbell just reunited them at the end.

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Great adventures? Favourite city is London? Taking on companions from time to time? Peter just learned a new way to fly.

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Great adventures? Favourite Favorite city is London? Taking on companions from time to time? Peter just learned a new way to fly.


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[[WMG: The "Injuns" are not stereotypes of Native Americans.]]
They are the native Neverlandic people, who have a rich and colorful heritage spanning hundreds of generations. This film captured the beauty of the Neverlandic culture in a way that no other film has without reducing them to some cookie-cutter racist stereotype, and it saddens me to see other people misunderstanding the true meaning behind these characters.
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[[WMG: Elaborating on the previous post: Pan and Hook are two [[{{Ptitlen4fcro73tb02}} True Fae]], battling within the shared Realm of NeverNever Land]]
The same proof applies to this theory as to the previous one.
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*Wouldn't that make Peter's comment about "girls are too clever to fall out of their prams" a reference to the fact that boys are more vulnerable to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, among other things?

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[[WMG: Peter Pan had, has and will have adventures with other children, not just the Darling children.]]

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[[WMG: Peter Pan had, has and will have adventures with other children, not ''not just the Darling children.]]'']]



* Confirmed in most, if not all adaptations, including the original book itself. Wendy's daughter Jane, for instance. And her children, and their children, and so on.

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* Confirmed in most, if not all adaptations, including the original book itself. Wendy's daughter Jane, for instance. And her children, and their children, and so on.
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* Confirmed in most of, if not all adaptations, including the original book itself. Wendy's daughter Jane, for instance. And her children, and their children, and so on.

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* Confirmed in most of, most, if not all adaptations, including the original book itself. Wendy's daughter Jane, for instance. And her children, and their children, and so on.
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* Confirmed in most of, if not all adaptations, including the original book itself. Wendy's daughter Jane, for instance. And her children, and their children, and so on.




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* It's scary how awesome that would be.
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* 8-11 ''is'' pre-teen. 13-15 is early teens.
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[[WMG: Peter Pan grows up to become [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]

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[[WMG: Peter Pan grows up to become [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]]]]]
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[[WMG: Peter Pan grows up to become [[DoctorWho the Doctor.]]
Great adventures? Favourite city is London? Taking on companions from time to time? Peter just learned a new way to fly.

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