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** There's also the mindset of "If I can't rule the multiverse, then no one will", which would still equate to wanting to make the multiverse cease to exist. Besides, technically, he left a shadow of his power behind, not a shadow of himself, and it was also explicitly stated that it will last long enough to destroy all existence.
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** The game sort of implies this to be true... Then again, there are several pieces that imply a much, much deeper plot at hand. [[spoiler: Dimentio is Merloo, the Ancient sage who is never mentioned outside of the stain-glass picture of him, which when tattled, says had similar abilities to Dimentio and was also involved in writing the Light Prognosticus. If this is the case, Dimentio wrote ''both'' books, plotting things to go exactly how he wanted for many years.]]
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*Doopliss
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* Not only that, but the first shadow in the credits is Luigi, not Mario.
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[[WMG:Mario and Luigi's surname is Gonzales.]]
That's where Mario's Glitz Pit stage name, the Great Gonzales, came from. I'm guessing the reason they're not called the Gonzales Brothers has something to do with "Mario Brothers" having a nicer ring to it.
[[WMG: ''Thousand Year Door'' is a theatrical reenactment of the real quest.]]
The events of Thousand Year Door had been noted to be compiled into book form--or, if we want to WMG further, ''Luigi'' was the one who went on the adventure (as evidenced by his letters to Mario and the Super Paper Luigi book series), but ExecutiveMeddling in the universe where Paper Mario was published forced them to change the protagonist to Mario because they believed that nobody wanted to play a game with Luigi as the protagonist. However, somebody somewhere felt sorry for Luigi, putting in the Easter Eggs about Luigi's quest, and Mario can still "cosplay" as Luigi via badges.
This explains why you have an audience cheering you on in the battles - it really is all just happening on a stage, and "Star Power" is part of the gimmick to keep the audience involved.
* ...And Hooktail ''eating'' the audience?
* And for that matter, Cortez eating the audience's souls, Lord Crump sucking the audience into a giant mecha and using them as cannon ammo, and [[spoiler: the Shadow Queen ''absorbing the audience into her own body.'']]
Incidentally, the end credits somewhat support this theory, since the lady ghost is shown on stage with Mario in the theatrical reenactment of "his" quest.
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*** It follows that this will manifest as a SuperPowerdEvilSide later on, and may in fact be responsible for his creepy [[LimitBreak Final Smash]] in SuperSmashBrosBrawl.
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** If so, when it was suppressed, it went straight to the only suitable host: Luigi.
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[[WMG: Flurrie is from [[AdventureTime Lumpy Space.]]]]
She's purple, she's cloudlike, she floats around randomly, and she is ''definitely'' [[GagBoobs lumpy.]] She's been living among the Punis long enough to lose the VerbalTic, but she's still a Lumperson.
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[[WMG: The player will have to fight Mario at some point in Paper Mario 3DS.]]
You fought Peach possessed by the Shadow Queen, and Luigi fused with a crazy clown. Don't be surprised if Mario gets brainwashed at some point and leaves your team. Maybe even final boss status...
You fought Peach possessed by the Shadow Queen, and Luigi fused with a crazy clown. Don't be surprised if Mario gets brainwashed at some point and leaves your team. Maybe even final boss status...
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* Xel'lotath is a girl, dude. Unless you think he '''[[GenderSwap BECAME]]''' [[GenderSwap a girl]] after whatever his ultimate fate was at the end of ''Super Paper Mario''.
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[[WMG: Mr. Hammer, Spikey Tom, and Spikey John are traitors to the Koopa Troop.]]
That quiz show seemed a little ''too'' helpful. Not only does it provide Peach and the player with information on the next Star Spirit, but Mr. Hammer gives you a super-special item perfect for sneaking around just for '''participating''', tells you how to use it, and makes a point to specifically tell you ''not'' to use it to go sneaking around. So, basically, he gives you information, ideas on how to get more, and the means to do so. Doesn't he come off a bit obvious? Mr. Hammer is secretly on Mario's side and is playing his part in sabotaging his de jure king.
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* She gives someone a look, a flash of red light appears, and they follow her orders. Sound familiar?
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* She gives someone a look, a flash of red light appears, and they follow her orders. Sound familiar?familiar?
[[WMG: Dimentio is [[EternalDarkness Ulyaoth]].]]
I played Eternal Darkness first, of course, but just looking at the character sheet for Ulyaoth after having played SPM made me laugh... and then be mortified at the idea. Alternately, he's Xel'lotath after going even more crazy as a result of whatever rites or process turned him into an Eldritch God-figure.
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[[WMG: Dimentio is [[EternalDarkness Ulyaoth]].]]
I played Eternal Darkness first, of course, but just looking at the character sheet for Ulyaoth after having played SPM made me laugh... and then be mortified at the idea. Alternately, he's Xel'lotath after going even more crazy as a result of whatever rites or process turned him into an Eldritch God-figure.
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* Those aren't rupies... She was a Homonculus who could shapeshift (a prototype of Envy?). And here true form is a monster, who spits red stones...
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* Those aren't rupies...rubees... She was a Homonculus who could shapeshift (a prototype of Envy?). And here her true form is a monster, who spits red stones...
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Isn't this pretty much canon? The Shadow Sirens seemed to be sent out to make sure the Thousand Year Door was opened one way or another. (that's Beldam in the opening cutscene giving the map to Peach, btw)
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** Isn't this pretty much canon? The Shadow Sirens seemed to be sent out to make sure the Thousand Year Door was opened one way or another. (that's Beldam in the opening cutscene giving the map to Peach, btw)
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* How else does he make it all the levels in the Pit of 100 Trials? And perhaps he got those rare badges by fighting in far away place...
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* How else does he make it all the levels in the Pit of 100 Trials? And perhaps he got those rare badges by fighting in far away place...place...
[[WMG: Nastasia has [[CodeGeass geass]]]]
* She gives someone a look, a flash of red light appears, and they follow her orders. Sound familiar?
[[WMG: Nastasia has [[CodeGeass geass]]]]
* She gives someone a look, a flash of red light appears, and they follow her orders. Sound familiar?
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** If you do, don't you dare left it to yourself. Linkitlinkit
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* [[spoiler: Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio.]]]]
[[WMG: Charlieton is a great fighter]]
* How else does he make it all the levels in the Pit of 100 Trials? And perhaps he got those rare badges by fighting in far away place...
[[WMG: Charlieton is a great fighter]]
* How else does he make it all the levels in the Pit of 100 Trials? And perhaps he got those rare badges by fighting in far away place...
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* [[spoiler: Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio. SoYeah]]
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* [[spoiler: Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio. SoYeah]]]]
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* Alright since this is [[WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessing]] I made I believe to be true... Count Bleck mentioned that Dimentio left a shadow of himself, Shadoo is still alive and controlling the Chaos Heart! And why Shadoo wanted to be the heroes of prophecy? Well, because he wanted to destroy everybody! And where is the real Dimentio? Somewhere in the Underwhere most likely... I call this idea! It's mine! I made it! If anybody makes a fanfiction like this I'm afraid you can't!
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* Alright since this is [[WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessing]] I made I believe to be true... Count Bleck mentioned that Dimentio left a shadow of himself, Shadoo is still alive and controlling the Chaos Heart! And why Shadoo wanted to be the heroes of prophecy? Well, because he wanted to destroy everybody! And where is the real Dimentio? Somewhere in the Underwhere most likely... I call this idea! It's mine! I made it! If anybody makes a fanfiction like this I'm afraid you can't!can't!
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.]]]]
[[spoiler: He's actually millions of years old, and wrote his own prophecy... and planned to carry them out himself. But he needed a pawn - Count Bleck - and used him as a tool to carry out the plans of the Dark Prognosticus. When Count Bleck had no further use to Dimentio, he intended to kill him and carry out the rest of the plan.]]
* [[spoiler: Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio. SoYeah]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.]]]]
[[spoiler: He's actually millions of years old, and wrote his own prophecy... and planned to carry them out himself. But he needed a pawn - Count Bleck - and used him as a tool to carry out the plans of the Dark Prognosticus. When Count Bleck had no further use to Dimentio, he intended to kill him and carry out the rest of the plan.]]
* [[spoiler: Also supported by Super Dimentio, who looks almost exactly like Dimentio. SoYeah]]
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* OK, he was insane, but he obviously opposed Count Bleck's plans about destroying all worlds. Yet, many says that, after his final defeat, he tried to destroy everything in a TakingYouWithMe attempt. Wrong: what ''is'' said is that he leaved a shadow behind him, so that it could control the Chaos Heart into destroying everything...I add, everything except the Heart and the shadow themselves. Then the shadow clone could have created an universe for himself '''and''' ensured his existance beyond the original's death. Basically: "I'll follow the Count's false plan...or at least another myself will."
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* OK, he was insane, but he obviously opposed Count Bleck's plans about destroying all worlds. Yet, many says that, after his final defeat, he tried to destroy everything in a TakingYouWithMe attempt. Wrong: what ''is'' said is that he leaved a shadow behind him, so that it could control the Chaos Heart into destroying everything...I add, everything except the Heart and the shadow themselves. Then the shadow clone could have created an universe for himself '''and''' ensured his existance beyond the original's death. Basically: "I'll follow the Count's false plan...or at least another myself will.""
[[WMG: The Dimentio in the game is actually Shadoo]]
* Alright since this is [[WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessing]] I made I believe to be true... Count Bleck mentioned that Dimentio left a shadow of himself, Shadoo is still alive and controlling the Chaos Heart! And why Shadoo wanted to be the heroes of prophecy? Well, because he wanted to destroy everybody! And where is the real Dimentio? Somewhere in the Underwhere most likely... I call this idea! It's mine! I made it! If anybody makes a fanfiction like this I'm afraid you can't!
[[WMG: The Dimentio in the game is actually Shadoo]]
* Alright since this is [[WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessing]] I made I believe to be true... Count Bleck mentioned that Dimentio left a shadow of himself, Shadoo is still alive and controlling the Chaos Heart! And why Shadoo wanted to be the heroes of prophecy? Well, because he wanted to destroy everybody! And where is the real Dimentio? Somewhere in the Underwhere most likely... I call this idea! It's mine! I made it! If anybody makes a fanfiction like this I'm afraid you can't!
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* Look at Merlon's mustache. Those little circles at the bottom look suspiciously like fingers and his arms are never shown. His mustache also appears to move unnaturally most of the time.
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[[WMG: Dimentio didn't wanted [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The End Of The Multiverse As We Know It]] at the end of Super Paper Mario]]
* OK, he was insane, but he obviously opposed Count Bleck's plans about destroying all worlds. Yet, many says that, after his final defeat, he tried to destroy everything in a TakingYouWithMe attempt. Wrong: what ''is'' said is that he leaved a shadow behind him, so that it could control the Chaos Heart into destroying everything...I add, everything except the Heart and the shadow themselves. Then the shadow clone could have created an universe for himself '''and''' ensured his existance beyond the original's death. Basically: "I'll follow the Count's false plan...or at least another myself will."
[[WMG: Dimentio didn't wanted [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt The End Of The Multiverse As We Know It]] at the end of Super Paper Mario]]
* OK, he was insane, but he obviously opposed Count Bleck's plans about destroying all worlds. Yet, many says that, after his final defeat, he tried to destroy everything in a TakingYouWithMe attempt. Wrong: what ''is'' said is that he leaved a shadow behind him, so that it could control the Chaos Heart into destroying everything...I add, everything except the Heart and the shadow themselves. Then the shadow clone could have created an universe for himself '''and''' ensured his existance beyond the original's death. Basically: "I'll follow the Count's false plan...or at least another myself will."
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[[WMG: Merlon's mustache is his arms.]]
* Look at Merlon's mustache. Those little circles at the bottom look suspiciously like fingers and his arms are never shown. His mustache also appears to move unnaturally most of the time.
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[[WMG: The name requirement for the Twilight Town Warp Pipe was made because of Doopliss]]
* Perhaps Doopliss was banished to the region to prevent him from spreading his sick pranks further across the land. Think about it... a demon who keeps his name secret for his most potent magic to work wouldn't write it down on himself, therefore Doopliss would never be able to use the Warp Pipe to leave. of course, once Mario exposed his name to get his identity back, Doopliss could freely write his name down and flee Twilight Town, and consequently he appears in later chapters.
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Isn't this pretty much canon? The Shadow Sirens seemed to be sent out to make sure the Thousand Year Door was opened one way or another. (that's Beldam in the opening cutscene giving the map to Peach, btw)
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* After their marrage marriage they end up in a place with 'regular' (as close to it gets, anyway) looking trees and such. In the context of SPM there is only one place that looks like this, the Mushroom Kingdom.
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[[WMG: Grodus is a robot that Beldam purchased on E-bay.]]
* Yeah, she bought him and programmed him so he could help with her plan. For some reason, I believe Dimentio may have been the previous owner. He sold it because it didn't turn out the way he had wanted it to.
* Yeah, she bought him and programmed him so he could help with her plan. For some reason, I believe Dimentio may have been the previous owner. He sold it because it didn't turn out the way he had wanted it to.
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[[WMG: Dimentio is currently in The Underwhere thinking of something with Fawful]]
* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.
** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5708906/1/A_Broken_Heart sequel.]]
* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.
** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5708906/1/A_Broken_Heart sequel.]]
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** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5708906/1/A_Broken_Heart sequel.]]
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** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5708906/1/A_Broken_Heart sequel.]]]]
[[WMG: The Chaos Heart ''wasn't'' destroyed!]]
* As it was never established what the Pure Hearts do, this is plausible. The Pure Hearts only ''suppressed'' the Chaos Heart.
[[WMG: The Chaos Heart ''wasn't'' destroyed!]]
* As it was never established what the Pure Hearts do, this is plausible. The Pure Hearts only ''suppressed'' the Chaos Heart.
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** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a sequel. (That for some reason the writer has only put up on DeviantArt for some reason)
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** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a sequel. (That for some reason the writer has only put up on DeviantArt for some reason)[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5708906/1/A_Broken_Heart sequel.]]
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* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.
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* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.history.
** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a sequel. (That for some reason the writer has only put up on DeviantArt for some reason)
** There is a [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5571666/1/The_Insane_Smiles fanfic about this,]] actually. Its pretty good, it also has a sequel. (That for some reason the writer has only put up on DeviantArt for some reason)
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* Tippi somehow recognizes Dimentio when seeing him in Chapter 1. Dimentio was the assassin Blumiere's father sent after Timpani all that time ago. It's also sort of implied that Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.
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* Tippi somehow recognizes Dimentio when seeing him in Chapter 1. Dimentio was the assassin Blumiere's father sent after Timpani all that time ago. It's also sort of implied that Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.Prognosticus.
[[WMG: Dimentio is currently in The Underwhere thinking of something with Fawful]]
* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.
[[WMG: Dimentio is currently in The Underwhere thinking of something with Fawful]]
* An installment is an installment. I don't have any ideas for this, but that would be the best villainous team in history.
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* When they are released, what do they do? They specifically cover the front of the screen, serving as a wall that blocks off everything except for Mario himself. In addition, they are the only characters who know that everyone is paper-thin, and how to use this knowledge to your advantage. Now, are they truly forced to keep up bad publicity, or is their "evil" nature a side effect of [[GoMadFromTheRevelation knowing too much]]?
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* When they are released, what do they do? They specifically cover the front of the screen, serving as a wall that blocks off everything except for Mario himself. In addition, they are the only characters who know that everyone is paper-thin, and how to use this knowledge to your advantage. Now, are they truly forced to keep up bad publicity, or is their "evil" nature a side effect of [[GoMadFromTheRevelation knowing too much]]?much]]?
[[WMG: Dimentio is responsible for Count Bleck]]
* Tippi somehow recognizes Dimentio when seeing him in Chapter 1. Dimentio was the assassin Blumiere's father sent after Timpani all that time ago. It's also sort of implied that Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.
[[WMG: Dimentio is responsible for Count Bleck]]
* Tippi somehow recognizes Dimentio when seeing him in Chapter 1. Dimentio was the assassin Blumiere's father sent after Timpani all that time ago. It's also sort of implied that Dimentio wrote the Dark Prognosticus.
