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While I was pleased to see a portrayal of a winged monkey as cute, I was a bit confused when the bat-baboons (which were still awesome) came on the scene. This raised a lot of questions as to how Finley and the baboons tie into the monkeys of the original movie. Crossbreeding explains this perfectly. Compare the 1939 monkeys to the ones in this prequel. They are certainly larger and more aggressive than Finley, yet they have his feather wings, and resemble Finley's species more than baboons. They're actually combinations of both monkeys. This could have done been done either by (a) good old fashioned interspecies mating (consensual I hope) or (b) magical means by the witches, as an attempt to create more intelligent minions.

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While I was pleased to see a portrayal of a winged monkey as cute, I was a bit confused when the bat-baboons (which were still awesome) came on the scene. This raised a lot of questions as to how Finley and the baboons tie into the monkeys of the original movie. Crossbreeding explains this perfectly. Compare the 1939 monkeys to the ones in this prequel. They are certainly larger and more aggressive than Finley, yet they have his feather wings, and resemble Finley's species more than baboons. They're actually combinations of both monkeys. This could have done been done either by (a) good old fashioned interspecies mating (consensual I hope) or (b) magical means by the witches, as an attempt to create more intelligent minions.minions.

[[WMG: It's all a guilt-fueled hallucination of the Wizard's]]

After [[Theatre/Wicked Elphaba's]] [[spoiler: apparent death]] and his removal from power, he begins to fantasize about a world where he truly is heroic and "wonderful", he gets the pretty girl, and the Wicked Witch of the West is truly wicked and [[spoiler: not his daughter]]. Unable to come to terms with the real world, his mind eventually breaks and that's when this movie takes place.
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* Oz the Great and [[FallenHero Terrible]]

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[[WMG: Frank becomes [[Film/TheWizardOfOz Professor Marvel]].]]

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[[WMG: Frank becomes [[Film/TheWizardOfOz Professor Marvel]].]]Marvel]]


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[[WMG: When Oz returns to Kansas without Dorothy in TWoO he goes back in time, [[NarniaTime as if he never left]].]]
Like every other story, ones that TWoO has ubiquitously influence, Oz returns to Kansas like he was simply lifted by the tornado and set down safely somewhere else. He lives his life, reconciles with Frank and is a overall a better man. The only problem is he does not know what happened to Dorothy, until he sees her parents and realizes how she might have met him.
For narrative/fate purposes it's the reason he ended up leaving without her, to make a stable time loop.

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While I was pleased to see a portrayal of a winged monkey as cute, i was a bit confused when the bat-baboons (which were still awesome) came on the scene. This raised a lot of questions as to how Finley and the baboons tie into the monkeys of the original movie. Crossbreeding explains this perfectly. Compare the 1939 monkeys to the ones in this prequel. They are certainly larger and more aggressive than Finley, yet they have his feather wings, and resemble Finley's species more than baboons. They're actually combinations of both monkeys. This could have done been done either by (a) good old fashioned interspecies mating (consensual I hope) or (b) magical means by the witches, as an attempt to create more intelligent minions.

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While I was pleased to see a portrayal of a winged monkey as cute, i I was a bit confused when the bat-baboons (which were still awesome) came on the scene. This raised a lot of questions as to how Finley and the baboons tie into the monkeys of the original movie. Crossbreeding explains this perfectly. Compare the 1939 monkeys to the ones in this prequel. They are certainly larger and more aggressive than Finley, yet they have his feather wings, and resemble Finley's species more than baboons. They're actually combinations of both monkeys. This could have done been done either by (a) good old fashioned interspecies mating (consensual I hope) or (b) magical means by the witches, as an attempt to create more intelligent minions.
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And then he, Raimi, and TimBurton, are going to collaborate on an adaptation of AlanMoore's ''LostGirls''.

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And then he, Raimi, and TimBurton, are going to collaborate on an adaptation of AlanMoore's ''LostGirls''.''LostGirls''.

[[WMG: The winged monkeys in the 1939 movie are crossbreeds of the two winged monkey species in OTGAP ]]
While I was pleased to see a portrayal of a winged monkey as cute, i was a bit confused when the bat-baboons (which were still awesome) came on the scene. This raised a lot of questions as to how Finley and the baboons tie into the monkeys of the original movie. Crossbreeding explains this perfectly. Compare the 1939 monkeys to the ones in this prequel. They are certainly larger and more aggressive than Finley, yet they have his feather wings, and resemble Finley's species more than baboons. They're actually combinations of both monkeys. This could have done been done either by (a) good old fashioned interspecies mating (consensual I hope) or (b) magical means by the witches, as an attempt to create more intelligent minions.
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[[WMG: Locasta, Mombi, and Langwidere will appear in any sequels]]
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-->"Really," said the Sorceress, "that is beyond my magic. I never deal in transformations, for they are not honest, and no respectable sorceress likes to make things appear to be what they are not. Only unscrupulous witches use the art, and therefore I must ask Mombi to effect your release from her charm, and restore you to your proper form. It will be the last opportunity she will have to practice magic."

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-->"Really," said the Sorceress, "that is beyond my magic. I never deal in transformations, for they are not honest, and no respectable sorceress likes to make things appear to be what they are not. Only unscrupulous witches use the art, and therefore I must ask Mombi to effect your release from her charm, and restore you to your proper form. It will be the last opportunity she will have to practice magic.""

[[WMG: PeterJackson is going to do a movie based on ''PeterPan'']]
And then he, Raimi, and TimBurton, are going to collaborate on an adaptation of AlanMoore's ''LostGirls''.
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***** That one could work, especially since Dorothy just so happens to be the daughter of Oz's love and her husband. Along with going home it could be a manifestation of the life he wishes he would have had

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***** That one could work, especially since Dorothy just so happens to be the daughter of Oz's love and her husband. Along with going home it could be a manifestation of the life he wishes he would have had
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** Maybe Dorothy had been volunteering part-time at the hospital, and the persistently-vegetative Oscar whom she's been caring for talks about his dreams in his sleep.
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During the battle at the end of the movie, Glinda used her magic to curse Evanora to become a hag. Breaking Evanora's necklace only sealed the witch's powers, but her beautiful appearance was her true look. Basically, with Theodora willing to look hideous and Evanora cursed to be hideous, Glinda can be the most beautiful witch in all of Oz.

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During the battle at the end of the movie, Glinda used her magic to curse Evanora to become a hag. Breaking Evanora's necklace only sealed the witch's powers, but her beautiful appearance was her true look. Basically, with Theodora willing to look hideous and Evanora cursed to be hideous, Glinda can be the most beautiful witch in all of Oz.Oz.
* Unlikely. In ''The Marvelous Land of Oz'', Glinda says:
-->"Really," said the Sorceress, "that is beyond my magic. I never deal in transformations, for they are not honest, and no respectable sorceress likes to make things appear to be what they are not. Only unscrupulous witches use the art, and therefore I must ask Mombi to effect your release from her charm, and restore you to your proper form. It will be the last opportunity she will have to practice magic."
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***** That one could work, especially since Dorothy just so happens to be the daughter of Oz's love and her husband. Along with going home it could be a manifestation of the life he wishes he would have had

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***** That one could work, especially since Dorothy just so happens to be the daughter of Oz's love and her husband. Along with going home it could be a manifestation of the life he wishes he would have hadhad

[[WMG: Glinda cursed Evanora with the hideous appearance]]
During the battle at the end of the movie, Glinda used her magic to curse Evanora to become a hag. Breaking Evanora's necklace only sealed the witch's powers, but her beautiful appearance was her true look. Basically, with Theodora willing to look hideous and Evanora cursed to be hideous, Glinda can be the most beautiful witch in all of Oz.
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[[WMG: Evanora and [[StarWars Emperor Palpatine]] are related]]

They both shoot lightning out of their hands.
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** Interestingly, the movie never mentions Ozma. It's possible she doesn't even exist in this continuity, since Glinda is the heir to the throne, even though she never uses the title "princess" (IIRC).
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[[WMG: Ozma is/will be the daughter of Glinda and Oz]]

Ozma is the daughter of the ruler of Oz. In these films, that was Glinda. Perhaps Ozma will be born to Glinda and oz.
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**** Alternatively, Dorothy also is a hallucination -- a manifestation of his desire to go home.

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**** Alternatively, Dorothy also is a hallucination -- a manifestation of his desire to go home.home.
*****That one could work, especially since Dorothy just so happens to be the daughter of Oz's love and her husband. Along with going home it could be a manifestation of the life he wishes he would have had

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[[WMG:Following from above, Oscar is really Dorothy's father]]
Since we know Oscar and Annie Gale have a relationship it is possible.
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*** We see him using a periscope-like apparatus in the machine, which makes his being able to face Theodora from inside it more plausible.
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*** Maybe they're sharing a dream. Maybe it's pure coincidence. Maybe it really is real and sleep takes you there. That answers to the dream issue only raise further questions is entirely appropriate here, thematically speaking.

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*** Maybe they're sharing a dream. Maybe it's pure coincidence. Maybe it really is real and sleep takes you there. That answers to the dream issue only raise further questions is entirely appropriate here, thematically speaking.speaking.
**** Alternatively, Dorothy also is a hallucination -- a manifestation of his desire to go home.
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** So does this mean that Oz and Dorothy are sharing the same coma dream?

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** So does this mean that Oz and Dorothy are sharing the same coma dream?dream?
*** Maybe they're sharing a dream. Maybe it's pure coincidence. Maybe it really is real and sleep takes you there. That answers to the dream issue only raise further questions is entirely appropriate here, thematically speaking.
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* A corollary to this is that he will be kept alive in a hospital somewhere for about twenty years, and will wake up shortly after Dorothy Gale awakens from ''her'' tornado-induced bizarre dream.

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* A corollary to this is that he will be kept alive in a hospital somewhere for about twenty years, and will wake up shortly after Dorothy Gale awakens from ''her'' tornado-induced bizarre dream.dream.
** So does this mean that Oz and Dorothy are sharing the same coma dream?
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*And the last thing he said to her was "I'll see you in my dreams"... (Or something to that effect)
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6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.

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6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.contraption.
* A corollary to this is that he will be kept alive in a hospital somewhere for about twenty years, and will wake up shortly after Dorothy Gale awakens from ''her'' tornado-induced bizarre dream.
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* 1. Before going to Oz, he calls his assistant nothing more than a trained monkey. In Oz he meets a trained monkey who has the same voice as his assistant.
* 2. Oz feels remorseful about not being able to help the girl in the wheelchair who cannot walk. In Oz he is able to fix the china girl's legs (his mind is correcting the guilt he feels).
* 3. Glinda is the good witch and none other than the girl whom Oz is truly in love with in reality.
* 4. Oz comes to a land named after himself, with a prophecy revolving around him as a hero, and where he is adored by all (in particular two very attractive witches).
* 5. Oz says that he wishes he could be like Houdini and Edison. By the end of the film he has become just that, with his mix of technology and magician showmanship.
* 6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.

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* 1. Before going to Oz, he calls his assistant nothing more than a trained monkey. In Oz he meets a trained monkey who has the same voice as his assistant.
* 2. Oz feels remorseful about not being able to help the girl in the wheelchair who cannot walk. In Oz he is able to fix the china girl's legs (his mind is correcting the guilt he feels).
* 3. Glinda is the good witch and none other than the girl whom Oz is truly in love with in reality.
* 4. Oz comes to a land named after himself, with a prophecy revolving around him as a hero, and where he is adored by all (in particular two very attractive witches).
* 5. Oz says that he wishes he could be like Houdini and Edison. By the end of the film he has become just that, with his mix of technology and magician showmanship.
* 6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.
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1. Before going to Oz, he calls his assistant nothing more than a trained monkey. In Oz he meets a trained monkey who has the same voice as his assistant.
2. Oz feels remorseful about not being able to help the girl in the wheelchair who cannot walk. In Oz he is able to fix the china girl's legs (his mind is correcting the guilt he feels).
3. Glinda is the good witch and none other than the girl whom Oz is truly in love with in reality.
4. Oz comes to a land named after himself, with a prophecy revolving around him as a hero, and where he is adored by all (in particular two very attractive witches).
5. Oz says that he wishes he could be like Houdini and Edison. By the end of the film he has become just that, with his mix of technology and magician showmanship.
6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.

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* 1. Before going to Oz, he calls his assistant nothing more than a trained monkey. In Oz he meets a trained monkey who has the same voice as his assistant.
* 2. Oz feels remorseful about not being able to help the girl in the wheelchair who cannot walk. In Oz he is able to fix the china girl's legs (his mind is correcting the guilt he feels).
* 3. Glinda is the good witch and none other than the girl whom Oz is truly in love with in reality.
* 4. Oz comes to a land named after himself, with a prophecy revolving around him as a hero, and where he is adored by all (in particular two very attractive witches).
* 5. Oz says that he wishes he could be like Houdini and Edison. By the end of the film he has become just that, with his mix of technology and magician showmanship.
* 6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.
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A cowardly lion was in this movie

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[[WMG: Oz is in a coma]]
Oz is actually in a coma, and the events transpiring throughout the movie in the land of Oz are actually all taking place in his head. He was most likely struck by debris inside the tornado and the rest of the movie transpires completely in his mind.
The facts:
1. Before going to Oz, he calls his assistant nothing more than a trained monkey. In Oz he meets a trained monkey who has the same voice as his assistant.
2. Oz feels remorseful about not being able to help the girl in the wheelchair who cannot walk. In Oz he is able to fix the china girl's legs (his mind is correcting the guilt he feels).
3. Glinda is the good witch and none other than the girl whom Oz is truly in love with in reality.
4. Oz comes to a land named after himself, with a prophecy revolving around him as a hero, and where he is adored by all (in particular two very attractive witches).
5. Oz says that he wishes he could be like Houdini and Edison. By the end of the film he has become just that, with his mix of technology and magician showmanship.
6. Oz seems to have some sort of supernatural knowledge in the world of Oz (i.e. knowing the flying baboon would chase the dove, or facing and speaking directly to Theodora as she flies away at the end of the movie, despite him having no way of knowing where she would be since he is inside of his contraption.
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The China people were too reckless for their own good, and the celebration of the Wizard's coming was just what set the Wicked Witch over the edge.

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The China people were too reckless for their own good, and the celebration of the Wizard's coming was just what set the Wicked Witch over the edge.edge.

[[WMG: Sequel name theories]]
* Oz The Great and Good
* Oz and the Witches of Oz

[[WMG: A spinoff movie will be made out of the LionOfOzAndTheBadgeOfCurrage]]
A cowardly lion was in this movie
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If the director is allowed to make changes.

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If the director is allowed to make changes.changes.

[[WMG: All China town people are as stubborn and headstrong as the China Girl...]]
They refused to pay tribute to the Wicked Witch even though they are obviously extremely vulnerable to destruction.
The China people were too reckless for their own good, and the celebration of the Wizard's coming was just what set the Wicked Witch over the edge.

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[[WMG: Glinda is TheChessmaster in this movie too]]
She has precognition; seen in her comment that "scarecrows can be important" even before Oz's plan to use them as a decoy army. She even knew his "fake balloon" plan; but is a better actor than even Oz is. She deliberately misinterpreted the prophecy because she knew people expectations would lead to certain events. She needed Oz to keep the wicked witches at bay until Dorothy could arrive.



* Going by book mythology; what they'd probably do is transform the sludge she turned into after melting from the water into a human, and erase her memories.

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* Going by Memory erasure and transformation IS the book mythology; what they'd probably do is transform the sludge she turned into after melting from the water into a human, and erase her memories.
solution to "reforming" villains.
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* Going by book mythology; what they'd probably do is transform the sludge she turned into after melting from the water into a human, and erase her memories.




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* Glinda does make a comment on how "being able to make a scarecrow is more important than you might think."




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* This became possible once Ozma was restablished into her throne.



Such that characters exclusive in this movie will be in the upcoming squeals as well.

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Such that characters exclusive in this movie will be in the upcoming squeals sequeals as well.

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