History WMG / OctoberDaye

* One possible snag- Roby rode Evening's blood, and didn't mention anything particularly out of the ordinary about it aside from how horrible her death was (since it involved iron). True, this was before Toby got her blood rebalanced, but the blood of the firstborn is seriously powerful stuff. Having just reread the scene, there's no foreshadowing about her blood being any more potent than expected.

* The Luidaeg refers to someone having "pruned the Winterrose" - doesn't sound like a permanent death, plus indicates the Firstborn's habit of taking titles instead of names.

[[WMG: Eira Rosynhwyr was/is Evening Winterrose, or someone very closely connected to her (as in, closer than just the Firstborn of Evening's species]]

* And what she finds on this quest will destroy/drastically change Faerie, as described in [[spoiler: Oleander's dying words]].

* In the short story attached to "Chimes of Midnight," the Luidaeg mentions seeing other Dóchas Sidhe, and how October bucks the trend of them being blonde, as well as how she's been waiting for a child of Amandine's line for a specific reason.

* In Chimes at Midnight it's revealed that her real name is [[spoiler: Antigone, the first child of Maeve and Oberon. ]]

[[WMG: Evening was Toby's grand-aunt, or a relative of some kind.]]
Why else would the queen declare a changeling the Countess of Goldengreen, as seen in the preview for ''Late Eclipses''?
* Because Toby did a great service in [[spoiler:killing the shit out of Blind Michael and keeping him from kidnapping any more kids]] during ''An Artificial Night?''
* And she wanted to [[spoiler: set Toby up for a future execution in ''Late Eclipses'' by getting her out of Sylvester's protection, etc.]]

[[WMG: Quentin is a close relative of King Aethlin Sollys and Queen - the fae rulers of all of North and South America. Either a son or maybe a nephew.]]
Their knowe is in Canada (Toronto, I believe) and Quentin's accent (near Edmonton?) is mentioned a few times in the first two books. Granted Canada is Really Big, but they're the only fae in the series that are from Canada. The unusual aspects of Quentin's fostering situation are commented on several times - that it's blind fostering, that he's staying at Shadowed Hills until he's 21, etc. One reason for this could be that he's the relative of somebody Really Important and they don't want that affecting his training as a knight.
* Possibly hinted at when [[spoiler: he brings news that they've pardoned Toby for killing Blind Michael, removing the local queen's last excuse to execute her]].
[[spoiler: Confirmed as of Chimes at Midnight: Quentin Sollys, Crown Prince]]

[[WMG: ''One Salt Sea'' (Book 5) will feature the Luidaeg heavily.]]
This is just kind of out there, but she is the SEA witch and, well, duh. Something seemed to be odd about her at the end of ''Late Eclipses'' when Toby asked if she was okay.
* Confirmed.

[[WMG: Before the end of the series, Toby will investigate the disappearance of Oberon and his wives/mates/baby mamas.]]
She is the hero who finds things. And they keep talking about it. And [=McGuire=] already set up this kind of long-foreshadowed ancient mystery bursting into contemporary life with Blind Michael. (Just wanted to get this down so when it happens I can totally point to it and say: Called it!)
* And what she finds on this quest will destroy/drastically change Faerie, as described in [[spoiler: Oleander's dying words]].

[[WMG: Amandine is the sister who betrayed the Luidaeg's roane children.]]
The Luidaeg brought Toby along with her to deliver her warning to Elizabeth Ryan, head of the selkies, and pointed out who Toby had been lovers with and who her mother is right before she did it. That's probably significant somehow. "They would keep the magic alive until I could find a way to make things right." Possibly Toby is related to the reason why the Luidaeg gave them a year before she does...whatever it is. Maybe Toby's saving of sea fae helped this too?
Also, Mary refers to Amandine as "the liar." Since she's one of the few remaining roane left, she'd have good reason to know that first hand.
* And this will lead to some kind of showdown between Toby and the Luidaeg. They both keep saying the Luidaeg will kill Toby, but it never seriously looks like happening. And we know the Luidaeg is capable of loving and hating the same person - witness her feelings towards the Selkies. Also, Toby's been told to beware "the Lady of the Lake", and the Luidaeg is a water witch (mostly called the "sea witch", but Toby sees her hanging around moors and bogs).
* I assumed that the Luidaeg brought Toby along and mentioned Toby's parentage because she wants Toby to be the one who brings the Roane back, through her blood-changing powers.

[[WMG: Toby is not an only child.]]

Oleander talks about the self-righteous disgust of Amandine's children, plus the Luidaeg says Toby's the last one who can be Amandine's heir, not the only one.
* Oleander's words suggest she might've gone up against the others before Toby (and probably won)
* Amandine's unorthodox approach to childrearing was because she's tried a bunch of nicer methods already and lost all her previous kids. Losing Toby to Simon and Oleander (like she lost all the others to them?) drove her crazy.
* One of Toby's half-siblings might show up later
* In ''Ashes of Honor'', Li Qin thinks she's read about the Dochas Sidhe in a book somewhere, which would imply that they're a race consisting of more than just Amandine and Toby.
* In the short story attached to "Chimes of Midnight," the Luidaeg mentions seeing other Dóchas Sidhe, and how October bucks the trend of them being blonde, as well as how she's been waiting for a child of Amandine's line for a specific reason.

* [[http://www.answers.com/topic/luideag If you spell it differently]], It seems the "luideag" is a mythical figure after all: "Squalid in appearance as she was evil, the luideag haunted several pools on the Isle of Skye, especially the Lochan of the Black Trout."

* There is [[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/luideag a similar word]] in Scottish Gaelic that means "rag" or "tatter," possibly alluding to how the Luidaeg likes to present her home.

There is [[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/luideag a similar word]] in Scottish Gaelic that means "rag" or "tatter," possibly alluding to how the Luidaeg likes to present her home.

* Not to be confused with Fland, a lake goddess who liked drowing people. Could be linked to the comment above about the Lady of the Lake.

There doesn't seem to be a mythological figure called the Luidaeg, which is unusual for this series. Even if the author takes some liberties with who the Daoine Sidhe or Tuatha de Dannan actually were in mythology, she tends to use names of genuine mythological figures. My guess is that she'll turn out to be a Celtic goddess whose name can be anglicised to 'Annie' - it's an alias she's gone by more than once. Plus, when Toby tastes her blood, she sees Black Annis (Danu) and Gentle Annie (Anann of the Morrigan) as the Luidaeg's closest sisters. Aine is a possibility. Or, Celtic mythology being complicated and occasionally contradictory (especially if you don't understand Welsh and Gaelic grammar), the author might houserule that Anann and Gentle Annie were different beings, and the Luidaeg might be Anann.

* And this will lead to some kind of showdown between Toby and the Luidaeg. They both keep saying the Luidaeg will kill Toby, but it never seriously looks like happening. And we know the Luidaeg is capable of loving and hating the same person - witness her feelings towards the Selkies. Also, Toby's been told to beware "the Lady of the Lake".

There doesn't seem to be a mythological figure called the Luidaeg, which is unusual for this series. Even if the author takes some liberties with who the Daoine Sidhe or Tuatha de Dannan actually were in mythology, she tends to use names of genuine mythological figures. My guess is that she'll turn out to be a Celtic goddess whose name can be anglicised to 'Annie' - it's an alias she's gone by more than once. Plus, when Toby tastes her blood, she sees Black Annis (Danu) and Gentle Annie (Anann of the Morrigan) as the Luidaeg's closest sisters. Aine is a possibility. Or, Celtic mythology being complicated and occasionally contradictory (especially if you don't understand Welsh and Gaelic grammar), Seanan McGuire might houserule that Anann and Gentle Annie were different beings, and the Luidaeg might be Anann.

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There doesn't seem to be a mythological figure called the Luidaeg, which is unusual for this series. Even if the author takes some liberties with who the Daoine Sidhe or Tuatha de Dannan actually were in mythology, she tends to use names of genuine mythological figures. My guess is that she'll turn out to be a Celtic goddess whose name can be anglicised to 'Annie' - it's an alias she's gone by more than once. Plus, when Toby tastes her blood, she sees Black Annis (Danu) and Gentle Annie (Anann of the Morrigan) as the Luidaeg's closest sisters. Aine is a possibility. Or, Celtic mythology being complicated and occasionally contradictory, McGuire might houserule that Anann and Gentle Annie were different beings, and the Luidaeg might be Anann.

* One of Toby's half-siblings might show up later

* Amandine's unorthodox approach to childrearing was because she's tried a bunch of nicer methods already and lost all her previous kids

* And this will lead to some kind of showdown between Toby and the Luidaeg. They both keep saying the Luidaeg will kill Toby, but it never seriously looks like happening. And we know the Luidaeg is capable of loving and hating the same person - witness her feelings towards the Selkies.

* And what she finds on this quest will destroy/drastically change Faerie, as described in [[spoiler Oleander's dying words]].

Also, Mary refers to Amandine as "the liar." Since she's one of the few remaining roane left, she'd have good reason to know that first hand.

Why else would the queen declare a changeling the Countess of Goldengreen, as seen in the preview for Late Eclipses?
* Because Toby did a great service in [[spoiler:killing the shit out of Blind Michael and keeping him from kidnapping any more kids]] during An Artificial Night?
* And she wanted to [[spoiler: set Toby up for a future execution in Late Eclipses by getting her out of Sylvester's protection, etc.]]

[[WMG: One Salt Sea (Book 5) will feature the Luidaeg heavily.]]
This is just kind of out there, but she is the SEA witch and, well, duh. Something seemed to be odd about her at the end of Late Eclipses when Toby asked if she was okay.

[[WMG: Before the end of the series, Toby will investigate the disappearence of Oberon and his wives/mates/baby mamas.]]
She is the hero who finds things. And they keep talking about it. And McGuire already set up this kind of long-foreshadowed ancient mystery bursting into contemporary life with Blind Michael. (Just wanted to get this down so when it happens I can totally point to it and say: Called it!)

She is the hero who finds things. And they keep talking about it. And McGuire already set up this kind of long-foreshadowed ancient mystery bursting into contemporary life with Blind Michael. (Just wanted to get this down so when it happens I can totally point to it and say: Called it!)

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* Because Toby did a great service in [[spoiler:killing the shit out of Blind Michael and keeping him from kidnapping anymore kids]] during An Artificial Night?