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[[WMG:Assuming Bladewolf is playable in it, a sequel will have four animal-ish AI bosses that Bladewolf will fight (though nothing says that Raiden can't provide support).]]
Drawing inspiration from the [[TheFourGods Four Heavenly Kings]], one will be based on the black turtle (perhaps employing the use of explosive shields? It could shoot its enemy from the holes in the shields), one will be based on the white tiger (potential mirror boss, since it could roughly be similar to Bladewolf body-wise. Perhaps Bladewolf's rival?), one will be based on the vermillion bird (divebombing Bladewolf with powerful missiles? Bonus points if it pesters Raiden/Bladewolf a lot during its level with rockets) and lastly the last one will be based on the azure dragon (could have has a flamethrower in its mouth. The "leader" of the pack perhaps?).
Drawing inspiration from the [[TheFourGods Four Heavenly Kings]], one will be based on the black turtle (perhaps employing the use of explosive shields? It could shoot its enemy from the holes in the shields), one will be based on the white tiger (potential mirror boss, since it could roughly be similar to Bladewolf body-wise. Perhaps Bladewolf's rival?), one will be based on the vermillion bird (divebombing Bladewolf with powerful missiles? Bonus points if it pesters Raiden/Bladewolf a lot during its level with rockets) and lastly the last one will be based on the azure dragon (could have has a flamethrower in its mouth. The "leader" of the pack perhaps?).
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[[WMG:Bladewolf appreciates puns because he's smart enough to get them.]]
* Learning to talk took Wolf three years, and he's so good at it he properly understands the intricacies of the English language, one of the most complex on the planet. When Raiden makes his early "Throw the dog a bone" pun, this is one of the few times he doesn't rebuke the attempt at humor - Wolf immediately and flatly analyzes it, but doesn't outright dismiss it. He might not get any humor out of them the way humans do, but Wolf appreciates hearing puns because being able to understand sophisticated wordplay is another way he's very unique compared to other [=AIs=].
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** In cutscenes, his basic strikes are often infused with electricity, and the blue aura he sometimes gives off is probably similar in nature. So it's likely everything you do has some spark to it, even if it isn't overt.
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** Jossed. Doktor's real name is Wilhelm Voigt.
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** Sort of confirmed. He does not have actual electrokinesis, but he can obtain a skill that lets him emit shockwaves called "Thunder Strike".
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** Half confirmed. Olga's daughter Sunny makes an appearance and various codec conversations discuss the previous games Raiden was involved in.
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** And now fully confirmed. The Gamestop pre-order DLC is a Grey Fox skin, complete with sword.
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* Rose and John were confirmed by Raiden to be happily living in New Zealand.
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** Confirmed, sort of, his soul has been infused into a sentient living wooden sword called the "Soul Snake Wooden Sword" that screams and talks in his voice.
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** Sure, Madnar was in Eastern Europe after Metal Gear 2, Doktor says he's East German, it could work.
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** Or new girl...
** This could be merged with the guess that you play as Raiden's son.
** Jossed. Raiden has been shown as the player character in multiple late game levels and scenes. You do get 90% of your body replaced an hour in though, say hey, that's something.
** This could be merged with the guess that you play as Raiden's son.
** Jossed. Raiden has been shown as the player character in multiple late game levels and scenes. You do get 90% of your body replaced an hour in though, say hey, that's something.
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** Well, the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Desperado's cyborg ninjas]] [[ThemeNaming are named after the winds,]] so, in sense, ''they are.''
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** Sure, Madnar was in East Germany Eastern Europe after Metal Gear 2, Doktor says he's East German, it could work.
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** Sure, Madnar was in East Germany after Metal Gear 2, Doktor says he's East German, it could work.
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** Jossed. Raiden has been shown as the player character in multiple late game levels and scenes. You do get 90% of your body replaced an hour in though, say hey, that's something.
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[[WMG: There will be a TomatoSurprise (or TomatoInTheMirror) at some point in the second act. You're not Raiden, but a full robot copy of him.]]
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[[WMG: John will wind up as a hostage.]]
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[[WMG:John will wind up as a hostage.]]
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* Jossed. WordOfGod confirmed Rose and John are alive. Raiden goes on his "Revengence" due to Desperado killing N'Mani, who he respected, and Sam nearly killing him.
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[[WMG: Something happened to Raiden's family, whether they be dead, captured, or otherwise]]
There's gotta be a reason why [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Revengeance]] is the subtitle.
There's gotta be a reason why [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge Revengeance]] is the subtitle.
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[[WMG: John will wind up as a hostage.]]
We are now all fully aware that the main character is the Raiden who grew up as a child soldier in Liberia, wound up as an American spy, then a cyborg ninja. The game also takes place several years after ''Guns of the Patriots.'' We all know that Raiden's family has to be involved somehow. My money's on this.
We are now all fully aware that the main character is the Raiden who grew up as a child soldier in Liberia, wound up as an American spy, then a cyborg ninja. The game also takes place several years after ''Guns of the Patriots.'' We all know that Raiden's family has to be involved somehow. My money's on this.
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[[WMG: There will be call backs to previous cyborg ninjas]]
You will undergo a similar spiritual journey as Olga from MGS2 and Gray Fox from MGS1. This will be part of Raiden's character development, along with knowing when and if he should use his Jack The Ripper persona.
You will undergo a similar spiritual journey as Olga from MGS2 and Gray Fox from MGS1. This will be part of Raiden's character development, along with knowing when and if he should use his Jack The Ripper persona.
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** Well, the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Desperado's cyborg ninjas]] [[ThemeNaming are named after the winds,]] so, in sense, ''they are.''
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* Well, the mooks will insist that they will still kick your ass if you cut their legs off. [[FridgeBrilliance Maybe that was the hypothetical AI talking?]]
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[[WMG:The RAY Pilot Will Be A HiveMind AI Controlling The Mooks]]
This just came to me-a lot of the Mooks look pretty similar to each other. While this is understandable, I thought "Hey, what if they're clones, and ''that's'' why Desperado is actually so threatening despite not being employed by a legit government-with enough resources, [[WeHaveReserves they can simply clone a new force]]. Naturally, given how Metal Gear applies to ClonesArePeopleToo, the apparent identical personalities will raise alarms, until TheReveal that they literally have one mind-an intelligent Unmaned Gear like Bladewolf (perhaps named SO-013, and he will point out that their names are leet-speak anagrams of Solid and Liquid-programmer's joke).
Because this is Metal Gear, it will be revealed that, originally, the Gear was like his "brother", only fighting for Desperado for lack of any better options. However, the memories of his human bodies being repeatedly killed by Raiden kept on being transferred back to him, along with [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil excruciating final moments]]. By the time of the boss fight, [[DrivenToMadness the Gear is completely insane from experiencing death over and over again]], [[UnstoppableRage recklessly attacking the source of his pain in an attempt to]] ''[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds make it stop]]''. Bonus points for the Gear deciding that since Raiden is his nemesis, [[WhatTheHellHero and obviously being an agent of the Patriots due to his apparent sadism]], the AI's purpose is to be an anti-Patriot and use the servers of the Patriot AIs and remnants of the SOP system [[WellIntentionedExtremist to destroy all that would restrict free will and choice, no matter how slight]]. Thus being an EvilCounterpart to Bladewolf, who faced the same question about freedom but was shown mercy.
Needless to say, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing he's turned an otherwise innocent creature]] [[NotSoDifferent into himself]], this is what motivates Raiden to ask himself why he's seeking revenge, [[CycleOfRevenge if all he's done is give cause for more.]]
This just came to me-a lot of the Mooks look pretty similar to each other. While this is understandable, I thought "Hey, what if they're clones, and ''that's'' why Desperado is actually so threatening despite not being employed by a legit government-with enough resources, [[WeHaveReserves they can simply clone a new force]]. Naturally, given how Metal Gear applies to ClonesArePeopleToo, the apparent identical personalities will raise alarms, until TheReveal that they literally have one mind-an intelligent Unmaned Gear like Bladewolf (perhaps named SO-013, and he will point out that their names are leet-speak anagrams of Solid and Liquid-programmer's joke).
Because this is Metal Gear, it will be revealed that, originally, the Gear was like his "brother", only fighting for Desperado for lack of any better options. However, the memories of his human bodies being repeatedly killed by Raiden kept on being transferred back to him, along with [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil excruciating final moments]]. By the time of the boss fight, [[DrivenToMadness the Gear is completely insane from experiencing death over and over again]], [[UnstoppableRage recklessly attacking the source of his pain in an attempt to]] ''[[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds make it stop]]''. Bonus points for the Gear deciding that since Raiden is his nemesis, [[WhatTheHellHero and obviously being an agent of the Patriots due to his apparent sadism]], the AI's purpose is to be an anti-Patriot and use the servers of the Patriot AIs and remnants of the SOP system [[WellIntentionedExtremist to destroy all that would restrict free will and choice, no matter how slight]]. Thus being an EvilCounterpart to Bladewolf, who faced the same question about freedom but was shown mercy.
Needless to say, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing he's turned an otherwise innocent creature]] [[NotSoDifferent into himself]], this is what motivates Raiden to ask himself why he's seeking revenge, [[CycleOfRevenge if all he's done is give cause for more.]]
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It's the only way to make the plot more complex and confusing. It would also explain Raikov's middle name.
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* ''Revengeance''[=!Raiden=] is the real Raiden's robot son from the future.
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* ''Revengeance''[=!Raiden=] is the real Raiden's robot son from the future.
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** This could be merged with the guess that you play as Raiden's son.
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** Not to mention that Raiden's son would be about 10-11 in ''Revengeance''. Unless the date is a [[LyingCreator complete lie]].
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[[WMG:There will be time traveling.]]
It's the only way to make the plot more complex and confusing. It would also explain Raikov's middle name.
[[WMG:There will be time traveling.]]
It's the only way to make the plot more complex and confusing. It would also explain Raikov's middle name.
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* Raiden will visit his grave.
* Raiden will visit his grave.
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* Jossed. WordOfGod states that the cyborg is named Sam, has no relation to Vamp, that Vamp is dead for realzies, and that any similarity in appearance between the two is completely accidental.
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[[WMG:Solid Snake will make an appearance in this game.]]
I don't know if it'll be a cameo or a full role, but Snake will show up in somewhere because it's Metal Gear.
[[WMG:Solid Snake will make an appearance in this game.]]
I don't know if it'll be a cameo or a full role, but Snake will show up in somewhere because it's Metal Gear.
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[[spoiler:Raiden appears to have made peace with his family at the end of MGS4, and presumably leaves active service to live with them]]. The government still wants his skills but he refuses so they may or may not capture, torture, and/or kill him to get the parts to build a more bloodthirsty copy of him. Maybe the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njZNPSwJBV0 live action teaser videos]] have something to do with this.
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[[spoiler:Raiden appears to have made peace with his family at the end of MGS4, Metal Gear Solid 4, and presumably leaves active service to live with them]]. The government still wants his skills but he refuses so they may or may not capture, torture, and/or kill him to get the parts to build a more bloodthirsty copy of him. Maybe the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njZNPSwJBV0 live action teaser videos]] have something to do with this.
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[[WMG: The reason for such a game shift with MetalGearRisingRevengance? Kojima is trying to kill off the franchise forever (like he has wanted to do for years).]]
He has repeatedly stated his desire to stop the series from continuing yet sales keep making him return. As such, to stop the cycle once and for all, he has allowed the new game to be as alienating as possible, so that fans won't keep bugging him for a new game. This is why a fake trailer was release as well before being changed to a hack n slash, and why a different group of developers are doing the game. Kojima really has had enough, and by making a game so different and so bad, he will finally succeed although he will claim it to be canon (although really he know he and the fans think it isn't).
* This gets a little more likely when you consider that Kojima is barely involved with the game compared to previous efforts, and that his next project will have him going back to [[ZoneOfTheEnders one of his other series.]]
He has repeatedly stated his desire to stop the series from continuing yet sales keep making him return. As such, to stop the cycle once and for all, he has allowed the new game to be as alienating as possible, so that fans won't keep bugging him for a new game. This is why a fake trailer was release as well before being changed to a hack n slash, and why a different group of developers are doing the game. Kojima really has had enough, and by making a game so different and so bad, he will finally succeed although he will claim it to be canon (although really he know he and the fans think it isn't).
* This gets a little more likely when you consider that Kojima is barely involved with the game compared to previous efforts, and that his next project will have him going back to [[ZoneOfTheEnders one of his other series.]]
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[[WMG: [[http://kotaku.com/5272382/kojima-updates-site-yet-again-with-familiar-face-hidden-mystery-mask This ninja]] is Olga.]]
Olga is already a ninja. She was shot in the head, but said head was mostly intact when she died and Gray Fox came back from worse. This ninja's eye is covered, which could cover Olga's gunshot wound. She could potentially be brought back to life if her brain wasn't damaged.
* Jossed. The game stars Raiden and is supposed to take place between Metal Gears Solid 2 and 4. That said, Zombie Cyborg Ninja Olga making an appearance would be hella cool.
[[WMG: Raiden won't be the hero of Rising]]
You'll switch to some new guy an hour in.
** Or new girl...
[[WMG: There will be a character named Fūjin in Rising.]]
He or she will have some kind of connection to Raiden.
[[WMG: Metal Gear Solid Rising will star Raiden's son]]
(Spoiler tagged due to [=MGS4=] ending details)
[[spoiler: In the teaser picture, "Raiden" has brown eyes. The Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 2 and 4 has blue eyes. However, Raiden's son, John II (Little John) DOES have brown eyes. Besides, "Raiden" is just a codename, like there have been more than one Snake. Hideo Kojima has already stated that Solid Snake won't appear in any more games. Metal Gear Solid 2 stars the first Raiden (Naked Raiden). Little John (Solid Raiden) will have to fight his ACTUAL twin brother (from whom he was separated at birth. The reason Rose told Naked Raiden that she had had an abortion was to hide that there were two), just as Solid fought Liquid. The next few games will all focus on Solid Raiden, whose main love interest will be Sunny Gurlukovich, mission control and chef. Naked Raiden will clearly be killed by Solid Raiden using a makeshift weapon, and someone will make another nuclear-equipped walking battle tank.]]
* Jossed. New artwork has made the eyes blue again. Here: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid:_Rising
[[WMG: Raiden will demonstrate electrical abilities in Metal Gear Solid: Rising.]]
Which will explain why he was able to hit people with lightning bolts at the end of [=MGS4.=]
* Considering the game's tagline is "lightning bolt action," I'm gonna have to go with a resounding "no [[spoiler: shit]]" on this one.
[[WMG: The reason for such a game shift with MetalGearRisingRevengance? Kojima is trying to kill off the franchise forever (like he has wanted to do for years).]]
He has repeatedly stated his desire to stop the series from continuing yet sales keep making him return. As such, to stop the cycle once and for all, he has allowed the new game to be as alienating as possible, so that fans won't keep bugging him for a new game. This is why a fake trailer was release as well before being changed to a hack n slash, and why a different group of developers are doing the game. Kojima really has had enough, and by making a game so different and so bad, he will finally succeed although he will claim it to be canon (although really he know he and the fans think it isn't).
* This gets a little more likely when you consider that Kojima is barely involved with the game compared to previous efforts, and that his next project will have him going back to [[ZoneOfTheEnders one of his other series.]]
[[WMG: The cyborg Raiden is fighting in the Revengeance trailer is Vamp.]]
The cyborg looks like Vamp, and even sounded like him. He is also fighting Raiden, and as any MGS fan knows, Raiden and Vamp have a bit of a rivalry.
[[WMG: [[http://kotaku.com/5272382/kojima-updates-site-yet-again-with-familiar-face-hidden-mystery-mask This ninja]] is Olga.]]
Olga is already a ninja. She was shot in the head, but said head was mostly intact when she died and Gray Fox came back from worse. This ninja's eye is covered, which could cover Olga's gunshot wound. She could potentially be brought back to life if her brain wasn't damaged.
* Jossed. The game stars Raiden and is supposed to take place between Metal Gears Solid 2 and 4. That said, Zombie Cyborg Ninja Olga making an appearance would be hella cool.
[[WMG: Raiden won't be the hero of Rising]]
You'll switch to some new guy an hour in.
** Or new girl...
[[WMG: There will be a character named Fūjin in Rising.]]
He or she will have some kind of connection to Raiden.
[[WMG: Metal Gear Solid Rising will star Raiden's son]]
(Spoiler tagged due to [=MGS4=] ending details)
[[spoiler: In the teaser picture, "Raiden" has brown eyes. The Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 2 and 4 has blue eyes. However, Raiden's son, John II (Little John) DOES have brown eyes. Besides, "Raiden" is just a codename, like there have been more than one Snake. Hideo Kojima has already stated that Solid Snake won't appear in any more games. Metal Gear Solid 2 stars the first Raiden (Naked Raiden). Little John (Solid Raiden) will have to fight his ACTUAL twin brother (from whom he was separated at birth. The reason Rose told Naked Raiden that she had had an abortion was to hide that there were two), just as Solid fought Liquid. The next few games will all focus on Solid Raiden, whose main love interest will be Sunny Gurlukovich, mission control and chef. Naked Raiden will clearly be killed by Solid Raiden using a makeshift weapon, and someone will make another nuclear-equipped walking battle tank.]]
* Jossed. New artwork has made the eyes blue again. Here: http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid:_Rising
[[WMG: Raiden will demonstrate electrical abilities in Metal Gear Solid: Rising.]]
Which will explain why he was able to hit people with lightning bolts at the end of [=MGS4.=]
* Considering the game's tagline is "lightning bolt action," I'm gonna have to go with a resounding "no [[spoiler: shit]]" on this one.
[[WMG: The reason for such a game shift with MetalGearRisingRevengance? Kojima is trying to kill off the franchise forever (like he has wanted to do for years).]]
He has repeatedly stated his desire to stop the series from continuing yet sales keep making him return. As such, to stop the cycle once and for all, he has allowed the new game to be as alienating as possible, so that fans won't keep bugging him for a new game. This is why a fake trailer was release as well before being changed to a hack n slash, and why a different group of developers are doing the game. Kojima really has had enough, and by making a game so different and so bad, he will finally succeed although he will claim it to be canon (although really he know he and the fans think it isn't).
* This gets a little more likely when you consider that Kojima is barely involved with the game compared to previous efforts, and that his next project will have him going back to [[ZoneOfTheEnders one of his other series.]]
[[WMG: The cyborg Raiden is fighting in the Revengeance trailer is Vamp.]]
The cyborg looks like Vamp, and even sounded like him. He is also fighting Raiden, and as any MGS fan knows, Raiden and Vamp have a bit of a rivalry.
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[[WMG: The "enemy cyborgs should have plenty of electrolytes" line is being spoken by Dr. Madnar]]
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[[spoiler:Raiden appears to have made peace with his family at the end of MGS4, and presumably leaves active service to live with them]]. The government still wants his skills but he refuses so they may or may not capture, torture, and/or kill him to get the parts to build a more bloodthirsty copy of him. Maybe the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njZNPSwJBV0 live action teaser videos]] have something to do with this.
